So today I had to get my driving record because it was needed for an application I put in for employment. When I got it, I was shocked to find that I have 6 points on my license! I got 4 from a ticket in VA for 12 over! WTF?! 12 over! It was on I95! I was lucking I didn't get crushed by the 18 wheeler behind me!
That's fucked up. 12 over should be like 1 point, maybe 2!
:rage:
I also think that job is probably not going to happen now because of it! I stood inline for 45 minutes at the DMV, paid $15 for them to print out a sheet of paper, and delt with political propagandists and now it looks like the 6 undeserved points are going to keep me from being employed!
Yikes.
I got 2 points for going 84 in a 60 (kph).
Does the record show that you were only going 12 over?
They're brutal in VA. Probably the most driver-unfriendly state in the union. I believe if you're 15 or more over, they will automatically charge with reckless driving. It's insane. In addition, it's the only state (DC too, but it's not a state) that has outlawed radar detectors.
I'm surprised it showed up on your record - I guess DE and VA have a reciprocity agreement.
That sucks. Sucks even more that you had to wait 45 minutes in the DMV for it.
(I don't mean to rub it in your face, but coincidentally I had to get a copy of my driving record for a job application of my own on Wednesday. I was in and out of the registry in a couple minutes (literally two minutes), set me back about $20, and my record is spotless.)
QuoteDoes the record show that you were only going 12 over?
The record actually shows that I was going 10 over. I remember it was 12 though.
I sure hope they ar generous about this and it doesn't keep me from getting this job. I really need a job since I lost mine a month ago and such.
:banghead: :rage:
Hopefully they look at more than just the points, I have a hard time believing that they will blame you too much for going just 10 over, especially considering the road.
Do you have to drive for this job?
QuoteHopefully they look at more than just the points, I have a hard time believing that they will blame you too much for going just 10 over, especially considering the road.
Do you have to drive for this job?
I would highly doubt that. Cosmic is white-collar, I believe. But employers do look at stuff like license history anyway.
Bummer about the points man. Hope everything works out for you. :wave:
QuoteQuoteHopefully they look at more than just the points, I have a hard time believing that they will blame you too much for going just 10 over, especially considering the road.
Do you have to drive for this job?
I would highly doubt that. Cosmic is white-collar, I believe. But employers do look at stuff like license history anyway.
Bummer about the points man. Hope everything works out for you. :wave:
The position I would be working, if I get the job, is Internet Sales Manager for a car dealer.
QuoteI would highly doubt that. Cosmic is white-collar, I believe.
I'm white-collar, and the job I'm applying for would require me to drive to field sites to gather instrument readings. :mellow:
Whoah whoah, if you are qualified for the job and you explain the circumstances behind the bullshit ticket they should be fine with it. If not than you don't want to work for those JOs anyway.
Car dealership, sales manager, heck they might look at the 6 points and say wow, this guy likes driving fast, he's perfect. :D
People have hired me with my driving record (with more speeding tickets and suspensions than I care to admit to), so I wouldn't sweat it too much
QuoteQuoteHopefully they look at more than just the points, I have a hard time believing that they will blame you too much for going just 10 over, especially considering the road.
Do you have to drive for this job?
I would highly doubt that. Cosmic is white-collar, I believe. But employers do look at stuff like license history anyway.
Bummer about the points man. Hope everything works out for you. :wave:
So what? A lot of white collar people have to drive for work.
QuoteQuoteDoes the record show that you were only going 12 over?
The record actually shows that I was going 10 over. I remember it was 12 though.
I sure hope they ar generous about this and it doesn't keep me from getting this job. I really need a job since I lost mine a month ago and such.
:banghead: :rage:
Unless you're a limo driver, I don't see why your driving record would have any affect on your chances.
People hire me, and I kill people, sell cocaine, and keep a shovel in the trunk.
Just one ticket, though.
QuotePeople hire me, and I kill people, sell cocaine, and keep a shovel in the trunk.
Just one ticket, though.
So, you mean that time I met you and you said that you had just been pigging out on jelly doughnuts, and that's why you were covered in
granulated sugar, and jelly filling you were.... :D
QuoteQuoteQuoteHopefully they look at more than just the points, I have a hard time believing that they will blame you too much for going just 10 over, especially considering the road.
Do you have to drive for this job?
I would highly doubt that. Cosmic is white-collar, I believe. But employers do look at stuff like license history anyway.
Bummer about the points man. Hope everything works out for you. :wave:
The position I would be working, if I get the job, is Internet Sales Manager for a car dealer.
Cosmic, I doubt they'd be too concerned about a couple of innocuous tickets.
My company does background checks and a DMV record is part of that. Still, I never saw anybody rejected for the job because of a couple of routine tickets. Some of the guys I work with get tickets every so often, and it has no effect on their employment. I honestly think a bad credit report would be more damaging.
Routine traffic tickets are a 'crime' without social stigma. Just about everybody can relate to a guy getting some tickets; few people have been without them, especially if they're young men who are working in an auto-related job. Guys who are interested in cars get tickets at a far higher rate than the general population, and will hardly be scandalized by the fact that you got a couple. If a car dealer wouldn't hire you over a couple of routine speeding tickets, I'd have to question what type of people they'd be to work for.
Rest easy, man. It's no big deal. Points don't change your life. Just ask yourself this question -- before you knew about these points, had they affected your life in any way? If they didn't affect you before, there's no reason they should affect you after you find out.
Cosmic, I highly doubt the ticket will prevent you from getting the job. Don't sweat it.
QuoteQuotePeople hire me, and I kill people, sell cocaine, and keep a shovel in the trunk.
Just one ticket, though.
So, you mean that time I met you and you said that you had just been pigging out on jelly doughnuts, and that's why you were covered in granulated sugar, and jelly filling you were.... :D
Yes. I'd killed someone, done a key of coke, and buried him in your backyard.
I don't think it will hurt your chances either.
I just had to turn in my driving history for my background check and I asked the HR woman if a few infractions hurt my chances of employment.
Basically she said that it's just standard background check procedure done by the company that contracts with them. They check EVERYTHING. If you're given the offer, the company wants you and has invested time and money in finding you. It's their loss if you slip through the cracks. They're not going to rescind because of some nonsequiter BS that doesn't affect them.
QuoteI don't think it will hurt your chances either.
I just had to turn in my driving history for my background check and I asked the HR woman if a few infractions hurt my chances of employment.
Basically she said that it's just standard background check procedure done by the company that contracts with them. They check EVERYTHING. If you're given the offer, the company wants you and has invested time and money in finding you. It's their loss if you slip through the cracks. They're not going to rescind because of some nonsequiter BS that doesn't affect them.
Good point that I failed to make, Laconian.
Companies don't do background checks during the interview process to decide between candidates. They do background checks after they have selected you as their candidate. Therefore, they already have a lot invested in you, have generally ruled out other people at that point, and generally aren't going to let something that really isn't a big deal affect their choice.
A DMV check is pretty routine, and if they found 3 DWIs or something like that, that would definitely affect you, but routine speeding tickets are pretty innocuous, unless the job involves driving in a car that they insure. In that case, they'll care a little more, but even then, I'm not sure a couple of routine tickets would always be fatal. That would be more of a judgment call.
Cosmic -- I didn't realize you had lost your job. I wish you a lot of luck in finding a new one that you really like.
QuoteQuoteDoes the record show that you were only going 12 over?
The record actually shows that I was going 10 over. I remember it was 12 though.
I sure hope they ar generous about this and it doesn't keep me from getting this job. I really need a job since I lost mine a month ago and such.
:banghead: :rage:
You should do your speeding in Michigan. Here it is only 2 points, and 135 bucks. Our state just wants the dough!
Like the other states don't? They just have the long term in mind, surely it costs a fair amount to get a license reinstated. ;)
I only got one point for my last speeding ticket. And the only reason I got that point was that I went to court to fight the ticket. If you just mail the sucker in, you get no points.
Connecticut has a very strange system of tracking problem drivers. There are two ways to get into trouble -- points and persistent violations. Some people get confused because it says on the back of the ticket that if you mail in the fine with a guilty plea, you get no points. They think this means the ticket won't be held against them, but it's not true. There is a second clause relating to persistent careless driving, or something like that, that prescribes license suspension or revocation for getting a certain number of tickets within a certain period, regardless of points. So you can lose your license even without points.
I didn't care about the point because it would be almost impossible for me to ever accumulate the 10 points that lead to license suspension. I don't do the heavy point stuff, like passing stopped school buses. I only speed, and that's 1 or 2 points in most cases.
Quotepassing stopped school buses.
Oh is that tempting!
QuoteQuotepassing stopped school buses.
Oh is that tempting!
The trick is to get them when they're slowing down and the flashing yellows are on. Once the flashing reds start, you have to stop.
QuotePeople hire me, and I kill people, sell cocaine, and keep a shovel in the trunk.
You forgot fornicating... With other men's wives.
I got the call today. No job. They didn't say anything about the points, it was that I had 3 tickets period. Said they wanted to hire me but can't until May when the one ticket drops off my record due to how their insurance works with sales people. :banghead:
QuoteI got the call today. No job. They didn't say anything about the points, it was that I had 3 tickets period. Said they wanted to hire me but can't until May when the one ticket drops off my record due to how their insurance works with sales people. :banghead:
Wow - sorry to hear that :(
QuoteQuoteI got the call today. No job. They didn't say anything about the points, it was that I had 3 tickets period. Said they wanted to hire me but can't until May when the one ticket drops off my record due to how their insurance works with sales people. :banghead:
Wow - sorry to hear that :(
And I'm even sorrier than he is.
But look on the bright side. You probably find a job before me.
Sorry, Matt. Do you want me and Shovel to pay them a visit?
That's retarded. I've never heard of someone not getting a job because of routine speeding tickets.
That sucks man.
QuoteThat's retarded. I've never heard of someone not getting a job because of routine speeding tickets.
That sucks man.
I agree. It's completely absurd, in my opinion.
I'm very sorry to hear it, Matt. Best of luck as you continue your job search.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I am going to try not to get any more tickets and try again in May. The guy said he would hold onto my application till then.
And yes, get the shovel Raza! :devil:
invest in a radar dectector!
Thats hard knocks, sorry to hear it dude.
Quoteinvest in a radar dectector!
Thats hard knocks, sorry to hear it dude.
First ticket I didn't have it cause it was a test drive, second ticket was in VA and you can't use them, 3rd ticket was in PA, and only the staties can have radar, so the local used a stop watch. :rolleyes:
QuoteQuoteinvest in a radar dectector!
Thats hard knocks, sorry to hear it dude.
First ticket I didn't have it cause it was a test drive, second ticket was in VA and you can't use them, 3rd ticket was in PA, and only the staties can have radar, so the local used a stop watch. :rolleyes:
Matt, what state is your license in?
I can't believe tickets from several different states showed up on your driving record.
How fast were you going when you got each of these tickets?
Well it sounds like you're highly qualified since they wanted to hire you anyway but couldn't because of their policy. I bet you'll find something even better before May rolls around anyhow, and if not you've got your ace in the hole, so to speak. :wave: :praise:
QuoteMatt, what state is your license in?
I can't believe tickets from several different states showed up on your driving record.
How fast were you going when you got each of these tickets?
His license is in Delaware. I can't believe all those tickets showed up either. NYS doesn't let any other state show up on your record - only Quebec.
Here is the record (with my address and things of that nature removed of course):
(http://www.paradigmfire.com/record.jpg)
You should get a commercial driver's liscense. I hope to get one someday along with a motorcycle liscense. Boo ya. And a liscense to kill.
Liscense?
License or licence my friend.
They spell it that way in the Great States ;)
Hello Matt White of age 20 with blue eyes that is 6 feet tall and weighs 200 pounds. :devil:
I think I might attempt an identity theft here! :ph34r: :D
QuoteThey spell it that way in the Great States ;)
They do?!? I have always spelled it License, as does the Texas DMV
You're only 20 Matt? Why did I think you were like 28? <_<
QuoteHere is the record (with my address and things of that nature removed of course):
(http://www.paradigmfire.com/record.jpg)
Dude, I can't believe they're still holding that 2003 ticket against you. That's a pretty old one, but I guess it will stay there until it's 3 years old.
It sucks that tickets from all those neighboring states show up on your license. As Dan said, NY State doesn't put out-of-state tickets on your driving record. I never got an out-of-state ticket when I had my NY license, but some of the my friends got out-of-state tickets, and they were 'freebies.'
I didn't realize you were so young. For some reason, I thought you were a little older.
QuoteHello Matt White of age 20 with blue eyes that is 6 feet tall and weighs 200 pounds. :devil:
I think I might attempt an identity theft here! :ph34r: :D
I'm actually 6'2 and 180 lbs (now), just so that you're more up to date on things. Don't want you to fail or anything. :P
QuoteQuoteHello Matt White of age 20 with blue eyes that is 6 feet tall and weighs 200 pounds. :devil:
I think I might attempt an identity theft here! :ph34r: :D
I'm actually 6'2 and 180 lbs (now), just so that you're more up to date on things. Don't want you to fail or anything. :P
What happened to the address and license number?
How do you expect me to get anywhere stealing your identity without that? Going around claiming your tickets as my own sure isn't going to get me access to credit under your name. You need to give me more than that, man. :lol:
QuoteQuoteThey spell it that way in the Great States ;)
They do?!? I have always spelled it License, as does the Texas DMV
Just joking...I suppose it is spelled "license" if everyone says so.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHello Matt White of age 20 with blue eyes that is 6 feet tall and weighs 200 pounds.? :devil:
I think I might attempt an identity theft here!? :ph34r:? :D
I'm actually 6'2 and 180 lbs (now), just so that you're more up to date on things. Don't want you to fail or anything. :P
What happened to the address and license number?
How do you expect me to get anywhere stealing your identity without that? Going around claiming your tickets as my own sure isn't going to get me access to credit under your name. You need to give me more than that, man. :lol:
C'mon now, what you really need is my social security number.
I'll let you guys guess!
Here's a hint: the first number is a number between 0 and 9. Same with the second and third number. :devil:
QuoteQuoteHere is the record (with my address and things of that nature removed of course):
(http://www.paradigmfire.com/record.jpg)
Dude, I can't believe they're still holding that 2003 ticket against you. That's a pretty old one, but I guess it will stay there until it's 3 years old.
It sucks that tickets from all those neighboring states show up on your license. As Dan said, NY State doesn't put out-of-state tickets on your driving record. I never got an out-of-state ticket when I had my NY license, but some of the my friends got out-of-state tickets, and they were 'freebies.'
I didn't realize you were so young. For some reason, I thought you were a little older.
I'd be removing a bit more info than that if I were you. It doesn't take much info for identity theft to become an issue.
QuoteQuoteQuoteHere is the record (with my address and things of that nature removed of course):
Dude, I can't believe they're still holding that 2003 ticket against you. That's a pretty old one, but I guess it will stay there until it's 3 years old.
It sucks that tickets from all those neighboring states show up on your license. As Dan said, NY State doesn't put out-of-state tickets on your driving record. I never got an out-of-state ticket when I had my NY license, but some of the my friends got out-of-state tickets, and they were 'freebies.'
I didn't realize you were so young. For some reason, I thought you were a little older.
I'd be removing a bit more info than that if I were you. It doesn't take much info for identity theft to become an issue.
I removed all reference numbers from the documents. My birthdate is on the forums even, my height and weight are incorrect, and most people know my name anyways. My city and zipcode aren't even listed, and the number of Matthew Whites in my state are many, so I'm not really too concerned.
QuoteI removed all reference numbers from the documents. My birthdate is on the forums even, my height and weight are incorrect, and most people know my name anyways. My city and zipcode aren't even listed, and the number of Matthew Whites in my state are many, so I'm not really too concerned.
Hey man, I just got a license under the name Matthew White, and I've already racked up 2 tickets under that name. :lol: This will be great for my driving record... :P
QuoteQuoteI removed all reference numbers from the documents. My birthdate is on the forums even, my height and weight are incorrect, and most people know my name anyways. My city and zipcode aren't even listed, and the number of Matthew Whites in my state are many, so I'm not really too concerned.
Hey man, I just got a license under the name Matthew White, and I've already racked up 2 tickets under that name. :lol: This will be great for my driving record... :P
:angry: :lol: :P
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHello Matt White of age 20 with blue eyes that is 6 feet tall and weighs 200 pounds. :devil:
I think I might attempt an identity theft here! :ph34r: :D
I'm actually 6'2 and 180 lbs (now), just so that you're more up to date on things. Don't want you to fail or anything. :P
What happened to the address and license number?
How do you expect me to get anywhere stealing your identity without that? Going around claiming your tickets as my own sure isn't going to get me access to credit under your name. You need to give me more than that, man. :lol:
C'mon now, what you really need is my social security number.
I'll let you guys guess!
Here's a hint: the first number is a number between 0 and 9. Same with the second and third number. :devil:
220 35 7924?
It has to be close, it matches the hint. :ph34r:
I got a solicitation from an auto insurance company inviting me to get an online quote from their website.
I decided to play with it a little bit, in order to find out how much routine speeding tickets cost in additional premiums if they're on your record at the time the insurance is purchased.
I got 3 quotes for the same car and the same hypothetical male driver about 40 years old. The first quote had no violations, the second quote had one ticket for 16-29 mph over the speed limit in the past 3 years, and the third quote had 2 tickets in the past 3 years for 16-29 mph over the speed limit.
The clean license guy was offered a rate of $536 every six months. With one ticket, it increased to $702, and with two tickets, it went to $828 every six months.
Not as bad as I would have thought, actually.
QuoteHere is the record (with my address and things of that nature removed of course):
(http://www.paradigmfire.com/record.jpg)
Hey Matt, I just noticed that you actually got a ticket on your 18th birthday. Hah, that's one heck of a birthday present, man.
My brother got a speeding ticket one time on his birthday also, so don't feel bad. :lol:
Daz, it was on his 18th birthday on a test drive.
Move to Germany. And let loose... :praise:
QuoteDaz, it was on his 18th birthday on a test drive.
What incredible bad luck. When I think of some of the stuff I've done on test drives, if I'd ever gotten busted, it would not have been pretty.... :lol:
QuoteQuoteDaz, it was on his 18th birthday on a test drive.
What incredible bad luck. When I think of some of the stuff I've done on test drives, if I'd ever gotten busted, it would not have been pretty.... :lol:
The cops should have tried chasing me when I was able to testdrive the 500-hp V12 Mercedes CL600. :praise:
Oh crap, the fuel tank was filled with only 8 liters of gas... :P
QuoteQuoteDaz, it was on his 18th birthday on a test drive.
What incredible bad luck. When I think of some of the stuff I've done on test drives, if I'd ever gotten busted, it would not have been pretty.... :lol:
On the ticket in the owner field it says "Smith Volkswagen" :(
QuoteQuoteQuoteDaz, it was on his 18th birthday on a test drive.
What incredible bad luck. When I think of some of the stuff I've done on test drives, if I'd ever gotten busted, it would not have been pretty.... :lol:
On the ticket in the owner field it says "Smith Volkswagen" :(
Matt, how are things going with finding a job? What type of job are you looking for?