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Title: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 09, 2022, 12:06:39 PM
Thought there was a thread already...

Well this article is no surprise at all to me. Tons of other people(myself included) would love an affordable truck without the drawbacks.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/article-popularity-of-ford-maverick-hybrid-pickup-a-big-surprise-for-the-industry-even-ford.7930/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 09, 2022, 12:24:06 PM
Also, apparently Ford figured a 40/60 hybrid to turbo ratio. All the hybrids are sold out until summer 2022.

The hybrids weren't "ok to buy" from US Fed EPA until December 10, 2021. They've been seeing turbos at dealership (usually with big markup, from early dealership order or cancelled customer order ) but zero hybrids...

Edit: hybrids are all going straight to customers.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 09, 2022, 12:45:13 PM
Seeing manufacturer plated Rivians around a few times now. Good looking truck.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on January 09, 2022, 09:25:25 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 09, 2022, 12:06:39 PM
Thought there was a thread already...

Well this article is no surprise at all to me. Tons of other people(myself included) would love an affordable truck without the drawbacks.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/article-popularity-of-ford-maverick-hybrid-pickup-a-big-surprise-for-the-industry-even-ford.7930/

It's an almost too good to be true vehicle.  It looks really cool, it comes in interesting colors, it has the interior room of a small SUV with 4 doors, it's got a pickup bed, it's small enough to be used in urban settings, it's got great gas mileage, and it can be had new for 20 thousand dollars.

So for the price of a new base model compact car, you get a cool looking small crew cab pickup truck with better gas mileage. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 10, 2022, 09:34:44 AM
Exactly!

They're sold out until summer when they start taking orders again for October.... :mask:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on January 11, 2022, 09:30:57 AM
I convinced my Dad to order a base model hybrid much to my Mom's chagrin.  It's arriving in February.  They currently have two leases; a Fusion hybrid and a Ford Ecosport.  They love the Fusion.  Dislike the Ecosport.  As a gift, I was going to get them a cover for the pickup bed.  Any suggestions? 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2022, 10:06:24 AM
Truck of the year...North American Car, Truck and SUV of the Year: Civic, Maverick, Bronco (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2022/01/11/north-american-car-truck-and-suv-year-winners-announced/9168736002/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDdZQS0S/d474ac11-a291-43a3-bfa1-90bff37bc8b2-Ford-Maverick-fx4-pond.jpg)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 11, 2022, 11:28:50 AM
Excellent!!!

I love to see the Maverick winning accolades. Ford finally did something different with this model than the "bigger, meaner, way more expensive" trend that's been going on for the past 15 years.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 11, 2022, 11:39:30 AM
I don't understand how the base price is even lower than the piece of crap Ecosport.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 11, 2022, 11:44:09 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 11, 2022, 11:39:30 AM
I don't understand how the base price is even lower than the piece of crap Ecosport.

Same
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 11, 2022, 11:54:38 AM
Probably tariffs; I think the Ecosport comes from India or Brazil or something.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2022, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 11, 2022, 11:54:38 AM
Probably tariffs; I think the Ecosport comes from India or Brazil or something.
They should've kept them there.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 11, 2022, 11:39:30 AM
I don't understand how the base price is even lower than the piece of crap Ecosport.

Built in Mexico
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: veeman on January 11, 2022, 09:30:57 AM
I convinced my Dad to order a base model hybrid much to my Mom's chagrin.  It's arriving in February.  They currently have two leases; a Fusion hybrid and a Ford Ecosport.  They love the Fusion.  Dislike the Ecosport.  As a gift, I was going to get them a cover for the pickup bed.  Any suggestions? 

I'm jealous! We still don't have a build date. Our salesman is clueless, says they haven't started building the hybrids yet (they've been delivering them since December 10th).

The Maverick truck club is pretty well organized and had a section about bed stuff: https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/forums/bed-roof-mods-flexbed-tonneau-toppers-racks-carriers-cargo-systems.19/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Laconian on January 11, 2022, 11:28:50 AM
Excellent!!!

I love to see the Maverick winning accolades. Ford finally did something different with this model than the "bigger, meaner, way more expensive" trend that's been going on for the past 15 years.

It's like not everyone wants the fanciest thing around. Who knew???!?!?!!!?? Lol.

I know the interior is going to be "cheap" but the value just can't be beat.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 01:04:29 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 11, 2022, 10:06:24 AM
Truck of the year...North American Car, Truck and SUV of the Year: Civic, Maverick, Bronco (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2022/01/11/north-american-car-truck-and-suv-year-winners-announced/9168736002/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDdZQS0S/d474ac11-a291-43a3-bfa1-90bff37bc8b2-Ford-Maverick-fx4-pond.jpg)

Yessir!!!

I wanted that color but it's an extra $500. We ordered dark grey.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on January 11, 2022, 01:12:30 PM
My brother will most likely be putting in a reservation for an AWD Hybrid when that window opens. He liked the utility of his B3000 but not anything else about it. This would serve as a good replacement.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SJ_GTI on January 11, 2022, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on January 11, 2022, 01:12:30 PM
My brother will most likely be putting in a reservation for an AWD Hybrid when that window opens. He liked the utility of his B3000 but not anything else about it. This would serve as a good replacement.

AWD isn't available with the hybrid, only the 2.0T engine.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2022, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 01:04:29 PM
Yessir!!!

I wanted that color but it's an extra $500. We ordered dark grey.
Yellow looks good on some vehicles and looks crap on others, down to styling I think.  Looks good on the Maverick.  Not worth the $500 though.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 11, 2022, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 11, 2022, 01:14:06 PM
AWD isn't available with the hybrid, only the 2.0T engine.

It's too bad they don't use the hybrid-ness to add low speed electric motors to the rear wheels.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on January 11, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 11, 2022, 01:01:53 PM

The Maverick truck club is pretty well organized and had a section about bed stuff: https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/forums/bed-roof-mods-flexbed-tonneau-toppers-racks-carriers-cargo-systems.19/

Thanks!  I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on January 11, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 11, 2022, 01:14:06 PM
AWD isn't available with the hybrid, only the 2.0T engine.

Currently not, but Ford has said it will be coming down the road.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2022, 05:05:30 PM
Good review...The $19,995 Ford Maverick is a bare-bones pickup truck that proves less really can be more (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/news/the-19-995-ford-maverick-is-a-bare-bones-pickup-truck-that-proves-less-really-can-be-more/ar-AASFEiu?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531)

The first time I hopped into the new Ford Maverick pickup, I did what any driver would do in an unfamiliar vehicle. I strapped in, adjusted my seat, and fiddled with the rearview. Then I went to tweak the side mirrors.

But I didn't find the usual buttons or joystick on the driver door.

"Strange," I thought. "There's got to be a knob here somewhere." I searched and searched for some way to adjust the mirrors to no avail. The knob, I'd soon learn, was me.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 12, 2022, 02:17:27 AM
The base model has manual mirrors,  steelies wheels, and no cruise control!!!

A lot of business will probably go for that trim, most others have been ordering the middle XLT. We wanted dual climate do had to jump even higher.

As far as sluggish, I've read there's a super noticeable difference between eco, normal, and sport driving settings.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 04:15:08 AM
191 HP in a vehicle that size is more than adequate. Not too long ago, that would have made it "sporty," or even "quick."
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Galaxy on January 12, 2022, 07:06:01 AM
I have heard that the hybrid is less sluggish around town then the more powerful conventional engine. E-Power, even a little bit, helps.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 12, 2022, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 04:15:08 AM
191 HP in a vehicle that size is more than adequate. Not too long ago, that would have made it "sporty," or even "quick."

It'd embarrass my Outback at a stoplight. :lol:

With slower/bigger/taller vehicles I try to emphasize driving smoothly, not fast.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: Laconian on January 12, 2022, 10:50:16 AM
It'd embarrass my Outback at a stoplight. :lol:

With slower/bigger/taller vehicles I try to emphasize driving smoothly, not fast.

I really think reviewers are struggling to find bad things to say all the time. Its like when they say something is "look outdated" but can't say any reasons why newer versions are better. "The switchgear is durable and logically laid out, but looks outdated." Nothing looks new after you've stared at it for a few months.

I found the sub-80 HP econoboxes of my youth "sluggish," but acceptable in a lower cost car that (and this is the important part) can still do all of the stuff you need a car to do.

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 11:17:52 AM
Motor Trend called the 7.0 second 0-60 time in the ecoboost Mav "leisurely."

Umm, are we that fucking jaded that we honestly expect 6 second 0-60 runs from a bargain compact pickup? These people need to find themselves on the highway with a 4-cylinder Ranger from the '90s.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 12, 2022, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 11:17:52 AM
Motor Trend called the 7.0 second 0-60 time in the ecoboost Mav "leisurely."

Umm, are we that fucking jaded that we honestly expect 6 second 0-60 runs from a bargain compact pickup? These people need to find themselves on the highway with a 4-cylinder Ranger from the '90s.

Yeah, WTF. 0-60 in 7-seconds is rippin, dude.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 12, 2022, 11:57:59 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 11:11:18 AM
I really think reviewers are struggling to find bad things to say all the time. Its like when they say something is "look outdated" but can't say any reasons why newer versions are better. "The switchgear is durable and logically laid out, but looks outdated." Nothing looks new after you've stared at it for a few months.

I found the sub-80 HP econoboxes of my youth "sluggish," but acceptable in a lower cost car that (and this is the important part) can still do all of the stuff you need a car to do.



Yep. It's a constant push for "better" & people complain about things not being updated to the latest & greatest, but then we end up yearning for the simpler, lighter, cheaper cars of 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on January 12, 2022, 12:35:39 PM
Yeah my parent's 4 cylinder 1984 Chevy Celebrity with 92 hp did 0-60 mph in 12 to 13 seconds.  I drove that car for years.  Felt slow especially going uphill on a highway.  Never dangerous even on highway onramps with fast moving traffic.   
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 12, 2022, 02:03:45 PM
Lol Ford's super sedan was 220hp and 6.5 second 0-60 in 1989. But only got 22mpg...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 12, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 12, 2022, 11:57:59 AM
Yep. It's a constant push for "better" & people complain about things not being updated to the latest & greatest, but then we end up yearning for the simpler, lighter, cheaper cars of 20 years ago.
I yearn for the simpler, lighter, cheaper cars of 55 years ago.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 12, 2022, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 12, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
I year for the simpler, lighter, cheaper cars of 55 years ago.

I'd like to build myself a little 4 door Falcon as a daily driver.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 12, 2022, 03:22:36 PM
I'd like to build myself a little 4 door Falcon as a daily driver.

Always wanted to do a Boris Ljungfjeldt Rally style Falcon (the real winner of the '63 Monte Carlo Rally)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 12, 2022, 03:51:29 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2022, 03:26:35 PM
Always wanted to do a Boris Ljungfjeldt Rally style Falcon (the real winner of the '63 Monte Carlo Rally)
(https://i.postimg.cc/52fwwCf7/In-Ford-Falcon-Mopnte-Carlo-Rallye-1964-600-500x408.jpg)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on January 21, 2022, 10:32:05 AM
I'm starting to see Mavericks out on the road. They're cool.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 21, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Might I suggest a vanity license plate "MCCAIN", or a window decal of Sarah Palin winking.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 21, 2022, 10:46:36 AM
Quote from: Laconian on January 21, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Might I suggest a vanity license plate "MCCAIN", or a window decal of Sarah Palin winking.

What? No Tom Cruise/Top Gun references?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 21, 2022, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 21, 2022, 10:46:36 AM
What? No Tom Cruise/Top Gun references?

Those are undoubtedly done already!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: GoCougs on January 21, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
The Maverick is so cheap because it's an Escape with a bed - strut and stamped-steel suspension, transverse engine, unit-body chassis, no two-speed transfer case.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on January 22, 2022, 06:23:02 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on January 21, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
The Maverick is so cheap because it's an Escape with a bed - strut and stamped-steel suspension, transverse engine, unit-body chassis, no two-speed transfer case.
Same with Bronco Sport.  Strictly light duty.  Ideal for the suburban household.  If you need more, get a Ranger or one of the F series.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 22, 2022, 01:11:57 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on January 21, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
The Maverick is so cheap because it's an Escape with a bed - strut and stamped-steel suspension, transverse engine, unit-body chassis, no two-speed transfer case.

And built in Mexico.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 22, 2022, 02:37:41 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on January 21, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
The Maverick is so cheap because it's an Escape with a bed - strut and stamped-steel suspension, transverse engine, unit-body chassis, no two-speed transfer case.

I mean, anybody using 4-low on such a vehicle anyways is probably doing something way outside of its intended purpose.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 22, 2022, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 22, 2022, 02:37:41 PM
I mean, anybody using 4-low on such a vehicle anyways is probably doing something way outside of its intended purpose.

Isn't it trail rated?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 22, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 22, 2022, 03:00:10 PM
Isn't it trail rated?

Probably depends on the trail. If there's a "Trail Rated" Jeep Compass (and there is), I'm sure this thing can follow it down that trail.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 22, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 22, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
Probably depends on the trail. If there's a "Trail Rated" Jeep Compass (and there is), I'm sure this thing can follow it down that trail.

Ford just needs to hire Jeep to trail rate the Maverick.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Submariner on January 22, 2022, 09:20:53 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 22, 2022, 03:00:10 PM
Isn't it trail rated?

The bed can hold a cubic yard of trail mix.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Submariner on January 22, 2022, 09:21:51 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on January 21, 2022, 10:04:32 PM
The Maverick is so cheap because it's an Escape with a bed - strut and stamped-steel suspension, transverse engine, unit-body chassis, no two-speed transfer case.

Just saw one in the flesh for the first time.  Looks like it was built in the mid 2000's, or it came from Ford Brazil or something.  Honestly there's something strangely endearing about it.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Submariner on January 22, 2022, 09:22:27 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 22, 2022, 03:17:52 PM
Ford just needs to hire Jeep to trail rate the Maverick.

They just need to weld the dif.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 23, 2022, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: Submariner on January 22, 2022, 09:21:51 PM
Just saw one in the flesh for the first time.  Looks like it was built in the mid 2000's, or it came from Ford Brazil or something.  Honestly there's something strangely endearing about it.

I've been eating up all the online photos and videos. They went pretty conservative, fairly modern but not too much. They avoided the Avalanche and Ridgeline and Santa Cruz "excessive fusion" of cab and bed- they made it look more like a pickup than those.

I can't wait to see one in person, the size is really going to look odd when we're so used to big trucks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 23, 2022, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 22, 2022, 06:23:02 AM
Same with Bronco Sport.  Strictly light duty.  Ideal for the suburban household.  If you need more, get a Ranger or one of the F series.

I would call it a "city truck"...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 23, 2022, 05:55:08 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 23, 2022, 12:42:30 PM
I would call it a "city truck"...

(https://i.postimg.cc/9QN7GPsG/16-C62658-B724-4-E24-88-BF-C606-B31-AA0-EA.jpg)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on February 05, 2022, 05:57:23 AM
I wonder if it could displace the Hilux as the truck of choice for terrorists. But probably not rugged enough for the terrain, or a 50-cal mount.
Still Toyota shouldn't have this market to itself.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on February 05, 2022, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 05, 2022, 05:57:23 AM
I wonder if it could displace the Hilux as the truck of choice for terrorists. But probably not rugged enough for the terrain, or a 50-cal mount.
Still Toyota shouldn't have this market to itself.

Mexican drug lords use American pickup trucks.   
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2022, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: veeman on February 05, 2022, 10:48:43 AM
Mexican drug lords use American pickup trucks.


Lincoln Blackwoods?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on February 05, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2022, 10:50:17 AM

Lincoln Blackwoods?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZImlL51Io



Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 05, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: veeman on February 05, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZImlL51Io

I was referring to The Mule with Clint Eastwood :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on February 20, 2022, 07:50:24 PM
I am considering buying a Maverick.

I really like the compact size and price point.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 21, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 20, 2022, 07:50:24 PM
I am considering buying a Maverick.

I really like the compact size and price point.

Orders are closed, get on Ford's mailing list to order this summer. Or way overpay a dealer for a "cancelled" order. (When they try to stiff the original orderer who then says no.)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 21, 2022, 09:48:40 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 21, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Orders are closed, get on Ford's mailing list to order this summer. Or way overpay a dealer for a "cancelled" order. (When they try to stiff the original orderer who then says no.)

Ford's dealers are often their own worst enemies.

We saw the same pattern with the retro-Thunderbird, half a dozen different special edition Mustangs, and the Bronco as well.
Dealers trying to make a quick buck off of a few sales and doing long term damage to their reputation.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on February 21, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 21, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Orders are closed, get on Ford's mailing list to order this summer. Or way overpay a dealer for a "cancelled" order. (When they try to stiff the original orderer who then says no.)

How would one do that?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2022, 09:14:06 AM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on February 21, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
How would one do that?

Get on the mailing list? Or find one for sale?

First is website, second I don't know besides hassling dealerships or watching inventory and making offers...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on February 26, 2022, 02:10:04 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2022, 09:14:06 AM
Get on the mailing list? Or find one for sale?

First is website, second I don't know besides hassling dealerships or watching inventory and making offers...

Get on mailing list.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2022, 09:32:24 PM
I couldn't find it but I'll look. You could also search for them
https://shop.ford.com/inventory/maverick/results?zipcode=29841
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2022, 09:34:02 PM
Found a Maverick just like we ordered and are still waiting for. $33k MSRP
(https://i.postimg.cc/G8CKKK9T/Screenshot-20220227-072537.png) (https://postimg.cc/G8CKKK9T)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 09:02:08 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2022, 09:34:02 PM
Found a Maverick just like we ordered and are still waiting for. $33k MSRP
(https://i.postimg.cc/G8CKKK9T/Screenshot-20220227-072537.png) (https://postimg.cc/G8CKKK9T)


Wtf, who is actually paying these prices?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 09:02:08 AM
Wtf, who is actually paying these prices?

People who need cars.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on February 27, 2022, 09:48:39 AM
Yeah but $13 thousand over MSRP for an economy car/truck?  I know it's cool and I had my Dad order one a while back but... that's bizarre that people would actually pay that. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: veeman on February 27, 2022, 09:48:39 AM
Yeah but $13 thousand over MSRP for an economy car/truck?  I know it's cool and I had my Dad order one a while back but... that's bizarre that people would actually pay that. 

People are coming to the end of their leases and finding the dealership lots empty of all but the cheapest and the most expensive options.

Generally, if one shops around and looks at different makes than what they had in mind, decent deals are there to be found. Not everybody does that, and this is what they get.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 27, 2022, 12:17:14 PM
Plus that one is 1k miles used. But EXACTLY what we ordered in October, and rumor is many of the 2022 orders will be pushed to 2023 because they don't have chips etc...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
People who need cars.

Nobody actually needs needs new cars. I can fix their old ones.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 01:24:22 PM
Nobody actually needs needs new cars. I can fix their old ones.

I agree; there are lots of people running on old assumptions about cars needing to be replaced every 3 years or 100,000 miles or whatever. We could get a lot more out of most- cars aren't sent to the junkyard because they're unfixable in most cases, but because it doesn't make financial sense to fix them.

But that's not going to change right away.

(it might, eventually, for electric vehicles)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 01:37:39 PM
I agree; there are lots of people running on old assumptions about cars needing to be replaced every 3 years or 100,000 miles or whatever. We could get a lot more out of most- cars aren't sent to the junkyard because they're unfixable in most cases, but because it doesn't make financial sense to fix them.

But that's not going to change right away.

(it might, eventually, for electric vehicles)

I just did a $2600 clutch job on a 22 year old Audi, a $3000 power steering rack on a 9 year old Fusion, and a $1500 fuel pump on an 18 year old hearse. That was just this past week. People are putting money into older vehicles.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on February 27, 2022, 02:23:56 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 27, 2022, 02:05:31 PM
I just did a $2600 clutch job on a 22 year old Audi, a $3000 power steering rack on a 9 year old Fusion, and a $1500 fuel pump on an 18 year old hearse. That was just this past week. People are putting money into older vehicles.

Excellent!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 28, 2022, 02:00:23 PM
$1500 for a fuel pump?!?!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on February 28, 2022, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 28, 2022, 02:00:23 PM
$1500 for a fuel pump?!?!

It was a hearse.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 01, 2022, 08:43:49 AM
So I saw on the Maverick-forum an email that dealers received- certain options may hold up orders and some trucks may be pushed to the 2023 build window.

Wife went in, sure enough ours was on hold because of the luxury package. Nice of them to be on top of things... :rolleyes:

We dropped that so hopefully we'll get a truck. We lose heated steering wheel, full size spare, spray in bed liner, rear collision warning, radar cruise, lane centering, acoustic windshield, tow package.

Some of that doesn't matter, some I'm disappointed (auto driving stuff), others we may need to shop around for (towing & bed liner).
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 01, 2022, 09:34:24 AM
Towing and bedliner should be fairly easy to install later.

Most likely, its the electronics in the auto cruise that's the actual hold up.

Ford would be smart to break up some of these packages and offer the features a la carte temporarily. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 01, 2022, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 01, 2022, 09:34:24 AM
Towing and bedliner should be fairly easy to install later.

Most likely, its the electronics in the auto cruise that's the actual hold up.

Ford would be smart to break up some of these packages and offer the features a la carte temporarily. 

They do for some of them. I just didn't want to mess with figuring out what we want. I'll just be happy to get a truck!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 01, 2022, 12:10:56 PM
Oh and it's definitely the copilot stuff that was the hold up. They're available without luxury package and listed as the options customers should consider dropping.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: NomisR on March 03, 2022, 10:01:35 AM
I just realized that they have a Ford Ranger Raptor in other countries, I wonder if they would do a Ford Maverick Raptor..
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 03, 2022, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: NomisR on March 03, 2022, 10:01:35 AM
I just realized that they have a Ford Ranger Raptor in other countries, I wonder if they would do a Ford Maverick Raptor..

If they can ever meet demand I'm sure they will!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 04, 2022, 09:29:36 AM
I want a Maverick Raptor with a bored and stroked 4 cylinder rally engine tuned by Yamaha.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 31, 2022, 02:41:41 PM
So our local dealership called wife yesterday but she didn't have a chance to pickup, they left VM that they had a Maverick available. By the time she called back it was gone...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: NomisR on April 01, 2022, 07:09:37 PM
doh!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 01, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
I have to honestly say I was not impressed by this or the bronco at the local auto show.  It really felt every bit or more cheap as the price tag indicated.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2022, 07:38:20 AM
Quote from: r0tor on April 01, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
I have to honestly say I was not impressed by this or the bronco at the local auto show.  It really felt every bit or more cheap as the price tag indicated.

The Broncos are how much more?
A Civic or Corolla costs what nowadays?

The Maverick hybrid gets better mpg than a Civic hybrid for commuting, and is way more capable. I've never cared much at all about interior so I still really really really want one.

Still no word though...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
The maverick may cost the same as a civic, but build quality is on a different planet from my brief time in them.  It's like buying an Impreza - there are massive cost cuts to deliver the package for the price.

The Bronco seemed pretty terrible to be honest.  I guess it's OK I'f you compare it to a woeful Wrangler, but a Defender is about the same price and pulls off a utilitarian design without seeming like it came from Walmart.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on April 03, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
The maverick may cost the same as a civic, but build quality is on a different planet from my brief time in them.  It's like buying an Impreza - there are massive cost cuts to deliver the package for the price.

The Bronco seemed pretty terrible to be honest.  I guess it's OK I'f you compare it to a woeful Wrangler, but a Defender is about the same price and pulls off a utilitarian design without seeming like it came from Walmart.
Most everything is better than the Wrangler. But the Defender starts at $52k, Bronco starts at $31k. :hmm:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2022, 03:32:22 PM
Took a look at a Maverick today. Didn't seem bad at all. Yeah, the interior materials are on the hard side, but it seems well put together and doesn't have the shiny cheap look that some bargain basement cars have. Not luxury, but perfectly acceptable.

I would like to take a closer look at the Bronco too.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 03, 2022, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 09:15:54 AM
The maverick may cost the same as a civic, but build quality is on a different planet from my brief time in them.  It's like buying an Impreza - there are massive cost cuts to deliver the package for the price.

The Bronco seemed pretty terrible to be honest.  I guess it's OK I'f you compare it to a woeful Wrangler, but a Defender is about the same price and pulls off a utilitarian design without seeming like it came from Walmart.

Maverick is an amazing cheap and cheerful option. Of course there are some cuts, but it delivers a very unique value proposition in the Chicken Tax US truck market.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on April 03, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
Most everything is better than the Wrangler. But the Defender starts at $52k, Bronco starts at $31k. :hmm:
The one at our show was in the mid 50's  and within a few grand of the Defender that was there.  The defender was about a.million times better built and actually had really good interior space.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2022, 03:32:22 PM
Took a look at a Maverick today. Didn't seem bad at all. Yeah, the interior materials are on the hard side, but it seems well put together and doesn't have the shiny cheap look that some bargain basement cars have. Not luxury, but perfectly acceptable.

I would like to take a closer look at the Bronco too.

Someone could have told me I was sitting in a typical 90's American car and I would have believed it except for the screen
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2022, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 07:18:43 PM
Someone could have told me I was sitting in a typical 90's American car and I would have believed it except for the screen


Naww, other than it being overly rectangular, I can't see what you're getting at. The only thing I really didn't like was the dial-a-gear gear selector, but I also have a feeling a real lever there would only count against it if looking newer means looking better.

Besides, the '90s weren't bad
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 06, 2022, 08:23:59 AM
Quote from: r0tor on April 03, 2022, 07:18:43 PM
Someone could have told me I was sitting in a typical 90's American car and I would have believed it except for the screen


:lol:

You don't remember the 90s very well then. Screws visible all over the dashboard and everywhere else.

Did you sit in it? Most reviews have said the seats are good. I kind of like getting as much value as possible- there's not even anything behind the rear seat to cover all the wiring!!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 06, 2022, 08:56:58 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2022, 10:11:55 PM
Naww, other than it being overly rectangular, I can't see what you're getting at. The only thing I really didn't like was the dial-a-gear gear selector, but I also have a feeling a real lever there would only count against it if looking newer means looking better.

Besides, the '90s weren't bad
I was opposed to the "dial-a-gear" selector until I got one.  I find it's very convenient and actually looks better.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 06, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 06, 2022, 08:56:58 AM
I was opposed to the "dial-a-gear" selector until I got one.  I find it's very convenient and actually looks better.


Also, it doesn't interfere with the cupholders...

They still suck.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 06, 2022, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 06, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Also, it doesn't interfere with the cupholders...

They still suck.
So clean and convenient, and no clumsy stick to get in the way.  Besides, what's the use of a stick unless it's a manual.

(https://i.postimg.cc/brMChNYk/console-gear-shift-head-penal-cup-holder.jpg)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 06, 2022, 03:42:16 PM
Nice volume knob.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 06, 2022, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 06, 2022, 03:42:16 PM
Nice volume knob.

  :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 06, 2022, 04:01:19 PM
Not really sure why they reverted back to a stick a year or so later...

(https://i.postimg.cc/rp3xS1F7/lr-ds-20my-interior-fp-210519-019.jpg)

I guess some just missed the feel of it.  It just looks to be in the way.

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 07, 2022, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 06, 2022, 08:23:59 AM
:lol:

You don't remember the 90s very well then. Screws visible all over the dashboard and everywhere else.

Did you sit in it? Most reviews have said the seats are good. I kind of like getting as much value as possible- there's not even anything behind the rear seat to cover all the wiring!!

There is plenty of exposed hardware (actually as a design theme I guess).  The door cards are ridiculously awkward looking.  The seats just felt like generic seats.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 07, 2022, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 06, 2022, 08:56:58 AM
I was opposed to the "dial-a-gear" selector until I got one.  I find it's very convenient and actually looks better.


On some you just spin it clockwise to go into drive, and counter clockwise for park. Can't overshoot, and you really only need to be careful for reverse anyway.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 06:23:16 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 07, 2022, 11:00:47 PM
On some you just spin it clockwise to go into drive, and counter clockwise for park. Can't overshoot, and you really only need to be careful for reverse anyway.
Just wondered, and I'm too lazy to look it up, does the Maverick have electrically activated E-brake?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2022, 07:16:27 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 06:23:16 AM
Just wondered, and I'm too lazy to look it up, does the Maverick have electrically activated E-brake?

Yes
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 07:48:58 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2022, 07:16:27 AM
Yes
Good feature.  Put it in park and it clamps the rear wheels so there's no stress on the drive train.

Don't know about maintenance, etc.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 08, 2022, 08:27:53 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 07:48:58 AM
Good feature.  Put it in park and it clamps the rear wheels so there's no stress on the drive train.

Don't know about maintenance, etc.

How many vehicles have you had problems with caused by stress on the drivetrain while parked?

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 08, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 08, 2022, 08:27:53 AM
How many vehicles have you had problems with caused by stress on the drivetrain while parked?



None, because I always use the parking brake :lol:

I've heard of cars breaking the Park pawl on the transmission due to the weight of the vehicle rocking onto it when you put it in park and let off the brake without the parking brake on. Although I don't know about modern cars - the stories and examples I've seen were probably all pre-1990
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2022, 08:46:24 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 07:48:58 AM
Good feature.  Put it in park and it clamps the rear wheels so there's no stress on the drive train.

Don't know about maintenance, etc.

I use my Emmanuel handbrake when I park.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 08, 2022, 09:42:34 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 08, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
None, because I always use the parking brake :lol:

I've heard of cars breaking the Park pawl on the transmission due to the weight of the vehicle rocking onto it when you put it in park and let off the brake without the parking brake on. Although I don't know about modern cars - the stories and examples I've seen were probably all pre-1990

Its basically a non-issue.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2022, 09:55:53 AM
I've seen a car rolling down and icy hill in park with both drive wheels spinning in opposite directions. Parking brake would have fixed that. Or a welded diff.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: NomisR on April 08, 2022, 11:23:10 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 06, 2022, 08:23:59 AM
:lol:

You don't remember the 90s very well then. Screws visible all over the dashboard and everywhere else.

Did you sit in it? Most reviews have said the seats are good. I kind of like getting as much value as possible- there's not even anything behind the rear seat to cover all the wiring!!

Wait, what car in the 90s has visible screws on the dashboard?   I don't remember any of that.

Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 06, 2022, 10:22:22 AM
Also, it doesn't interfere with the cupholders...

They still suck.

They're not horrible.  It's better than the push button gear selectors that some manufacturers went with..
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 08, 2022, 12:00:18 PM
I mean, my '91 does, but its also very much a holdover from the late '70s.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 08, 2022, 08:27:53 AM
How many vehicles have you had problems with caused by stress on the drivetrain while parked?

None.  Actually, the only problem I had with the knob selector is adjusting to the shift lever not being there.  I would reach for a lever expecting my hand to land on it, and found only air, then I would have to look down and find the dial.  Now my hand automatically goes to the dial without looking.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2022, 12:49:24 PM
Jeep XJ has screws everywhere, though some are missing.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 08, 2022, 04:01:26 PM
For those who want a little more zip in their Maverick...Ford Maverick ST Spied With Dual Exhausts, Flared Fenders (https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/ford-maverick-st-spied-with-dual-exhausts-flared-fenders/ar-AAW0YUm?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c2d1011cac8d45adc461d9b37631e42f#image=AAW0X9J%7C3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDyrCcS3/AAW0FmS.jpg)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on April 08, 2022, 07:51:21 PM
My Dad loves his new base Maverick.  He's been getting Fords from his local Ford dealership for years (decades) and the dealer told him it would install his aftermarket hard bed cover that he bought online (usually dealerships won't do that unless you buy it through them). 

20 thousand for a new crew cab pickup with the fuel economy of a compact car is a game changer.  It's tow ratings and how heavy a load it can carry in it's bed are competitive for mid size trucks.

People complain about how homogenized new cars look.  This goes completely against that.  It also looks masculine without being a caricature (like new full size GM pickup trucks).

I'd take one in a heart beat over any other automatic economy compact sedan or hatchback regardless of whether the interior looks and feels 1990s grade. 

It's kind of like comparing the interior of a Tesla model 3 with a BMW 3 series or Mercedes C class.  Yeah, the Tesla sucks but it has so many other attributes which more than make up the difference.




Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 08, 2022, 10:11:30 PM
There really isn't any comparison!
Utility, cheap, and great gas mileage. Not heard of before.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 17, 2022, 01:59:56 PM
Built a Maverick on the Ford site. Adding the B&O 8 speaker premium audio requires removing the drop-in bedliner :wtf:
Is there a subwoofer accessible through the bed or something?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 17, 2022, 03:51:08 PM
No, it's just the stupid packages. I've watched reviews that the speakers themselves are okay- but the woofer isn't the best, and the rear speakers are up by the headrests- so really loud for rear passengers. (If you don't adjust fade)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on April 20, 2022, 10:58:57 AM
Drop in bed liners suck anyways.  Spray in for sure.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on May 01, 2022, 03:06:35 PM
My parents' came up to visit me for a few days before flying out of NYC.  Dad brought his new Maverick and I drove it locally for 15 minutes.  Base model with great blue/grey matte color.  He loves it. 

It's a perfect size for people who don't use their pickup truck for pickup truck things other than Home Depot or plant nursery runs.  Easily will fit into any garage but bigger than a midsize sedan.  Drives like a car.  Motor has a high pitched buzzy sound when starting from a stop but it wasn't that annoying.  Shifts smooth.  Interior is fine.  Hard plastics but that doesn't bother me. 

If I had to choose between the Maverick and a new 4 cylinder Camcord, I'd take the Maverick just because it looks so much cooler and it's novelty factor.  Plus more functional. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 03, 2022, 12:23:27 PM
Exactly. We're still waiting..... :cry:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 03, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
If I was in the market for a new car, I would want a Maverick hybrid. Can't argue with the relative value. The little pickup bed would be handy. Amazing gas mileage.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: NomisR on May 03, 2022, 02:22:44 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 03, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
If I was in the market for a new car, I would want a Maverick hybrid. Can't argue with the relative value. The little pickup bed would be handy. Amazing gas mileage.


Seriously, the more I look at it, the more I want one even though I have no reason to want one nor do i need one, not to mention no room for one either.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 05, 2022, 09:45:23 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 03, 2022, 12:30:56 PM
If I was in the market for a new car, I would want a Maverick hybrid. Can't argue with the relative value. The little pickup bed would be handy. Amazing gas mileage.


That's what I ordered. For a commuter car when the weather is not Scrappy friendly, lol.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 17, 2022, 09:55:52 AM
Just days after I cancelled my Maverick order, saw one in person. Pretty handsome!

And way better looking than the weird Santa Cruz...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on June 17, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
Yeah I just saw one yesterday for I believe the first time. Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 14, 2022, 05:18:05 PM
"Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information."
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 16, 2022, 04:36:08 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 14, 2022, 05:18:05 PM
"Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information."

Dude they have said that since DECEMBER and they will start accepting orders again in August. :huh:  I bet they fill up again in a month or two.

Many 2022 orders were pushed to 2023.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on July 16, 2022, 06:40:49 AM
Curiously our local Ford dealer's lot has a full complement of Broncos parked in front. Maybe they overestimated Bronco demand & underestimated that for the Maverick.

(OT: by contrast the Chevy dealer across the street is sad & sparse)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 16, 2022, 11:12:56 AM
Apparently, it sells like hot cakes. Maverick hybrid is like the only new car I am remotely interested in. I understand the appeal.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 16, 2022, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 16, 2022, 11:12:56 AM
Apparently, it sells like hot cakes. Maverick hybrid is like the only new car I am remotely interested in. I understand the appeal.

I can't understand how the entire market didn't guess the demand.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 16, 2022, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 16, 2022, 06:40:49 AM
Curiously our local Ford dealer's lot has a full complement of Broncos parked in front. Maybe they overestimated Bronco demand & underestimated that for the Maverick.

(OT: by contrast the Chevy dealer across the street is sad & sparse)

Bronco is way more expensive, Maverick is more useful. But also may cut into other truck sales.....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 17, 2022, 10:55:28 AM
Maybe that dealership marked up the Broncos a ridiculous amount too.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on July 17, 2022, 01:49:23 PM
The appeal is the base model which stickers for around $21 thousand and gets 42 mpg city/ 33 mpg highway (or at least close to those numbers).

So how many people if given a choice would want a base model compact hatchback/sedan over a Maverick?

At a large extended family get together I was telling all my cousins how great my parents' new Maverick is and they were all skeptical.  They couldn't get over it being a pickup truck.  I gave several of them the keys to it and had them drive it around.  One of my cousins said "I'd rather have something like a Highlander Hybrid".  I said "You can get two of these for the price of a new Highlander Hybrid".
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on July 18, 2022, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 16, 2022, 06:40:49 AM
Curiously our local Ford dealer's lot has a full complement of Broncos parked in front. Maybe they overestimated Bronco demand & underestimated that for the Maverick.

(OT: by contrast the Chevy dealer across the street is sad & sparse)

I saw 4 broncos driving around yesterday... Up until yesterday I think I only ever saw 1.  There must be a bumper crop of them that just left the factory
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 18, 2022, 04:10:27 PM
Quote from: r0tor on July 18, 2022, 10:28:41 AM
I saw 4 broncos driving around yesterday... Up until yesterday I think I only ever saw 1.  There must be a bumper crop of them that just left the factory

I've seen dozens of them, and 3 Mavericks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 18, 2022, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: veeman on July 17, 2022, 01:49:23 PM
The appeal is the base model which stickers for around $21 thousand and gets 42 mpg city/ 33 mpg highway (or at least close to those numbers).

So how many people if given a choice would want a base model compact hatchback/sedan over a Maverick?

Some people are getting way better mileage. And that price point for what you get is AMAZING.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 29, 2022, 07:12:34 PM
sooooooo...

I drove Odyssey to work the other day. We LOVE the room, when we need it. We don't need it that often. I am getting 18mpg mixed driving. So I asked wife what she thought about ordering a Maverick again and selling Odyssey when it comes in. "right now" KBB value for Odyssey is $11-14k private party, we bought it for $12k in 2020.  :confused:

But who knows how long a Maverick would take to come in, and who knows if used prices would go up. Our van is pretty dirty inside (we thought it would just clean out but there are stains) and someone scratched the rear bumper passenger side cover up with a cart or something. Plus it had a carfax hit- a big tree branch fell resulting in windshield, hood, and fender replacement.   

THEN this morning I park next to a Maverick. I ogled it a bit.  :mask:
They're a bit smaller inside than I was thinking. They have a carseat in the back and it's almost touching the driver seat. It's survivable but wouldn't be the family vacation cruiser like Odyssey. But that 40+mpg!!!    :hammerhead:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on July 29, 2022, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 29, 2022, 07:12:34 PM
sooooooo...

I drove Odyssey to work the other day. We LOVE the room, when we need it. We don't need it that often. I am getting 18mpg mixed driving. So I asked wife what she thought about ordering a Maverick again and selling Odyssey when it comes in. "right now" KBB value for Odyssey is $11-14k private party, we bought it for $12k in 2020.  :confused:

But who knows how long a Maverick would take to come in, and who knows if used prices would go up. Our van is pretty dirty inside (we thought it would just clean out but there are stains) and someone scratched the rear bumper passenger side cover up with a cart or something. Plus it had a carfax hit- a big tree branch fell resulting in windshield, hood, and fender replacement.   

THEN this morning I park next to a Maverick. I ogled it a bit.  :mask:
They're a bit smaller inside than I was thinking. They have a carseat in the back and it's almost touching the driver seat. It's survivable but wouldn't be the family vacation cruiser like Odyssey. But that 40+mpg!!!    :hammerhead:

I think for 4 people, with 2 normal sized people in the rear seats, it's a good family cruiser.  For more than 4 people or with four people and a large dog, you're better off with a 3 row vehicle.  It doesn't feel like a compact car but it's not as comfy as a large sedan either.  Feels like a small to midsize SUV. 

I'd get the base model with zero options.  FWD, hybrid engine, manual front seat adjustments.  Old school looking wheels.  Side view mirrors have electronic adjustment.  Only negative is no cruise control. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SVT_Power on July 29, 2022, 09:50:02 PM
A family vacation cruiser without cruise control?

Hard pass.

Unless Will is one of those weirdos that don't ever use cruise control...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on July 29, 2022, 10:28:14 PM
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 29, 2022, 09:50:02 PM
A family vacation cruiser without cruise control?

Hard pass.

Unless Will is one of those weirdos that don't ever use cruise control...

I drove from the UP to Moab, and back, without cruise control. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 30, 2022, 06:14:36 AM
If there's only one option it's cruise control. I need to cruise.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 30, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 30, 2022, 06:14:36 AM
If there's only one option it's cruise control. I need to cruise.

+1

It's funny that they didn't include that on the base model, most assume it's cuz Ford thought they could sell a ton to fleets. Didn't realize they wouldn't be able to make but a tiny fraction of the demand.

BUT people have been playing with the ECM programming- all it takes is a steering wheel from an Escape and little bit of wizardry and you have cruise in the "$19,995" truck. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 30, 2022, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: veeman on July 29, 2022, 09:09:55 PM
I think for 4 people, with 2 normal sized people in the rear seats, it's a good family cruiser.  For more than 4 people or with four people and a large dog, you're better off with a 3 row vehicle.  It doesn't feel like a compact car but it's not as comfy as a large sedan either.  Feels like a small to midsize SUV. 

I'd get the base model with zero options.  FWD, hybrid engine, manual front seat adjustments.  Old school looking wheels.  Side view mirrors have electronic adjustment.  Only negative is no cruise control. 

I'm pretty sure the base model has manual mirrors.

They only put one interior in each different trim- I like the XLT orange accents. We originally ordered a Lariat for the dual climate but we've been fine in the Civic so my preference would be XLT Hybrid with copilot 360, towing, and Cyber Orange paint.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: dazzleman on July 30, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 29, 2022, 09:50:02 PM
A family vacation cruiser without cruise control?

Hard pass.

Unless Will is one of those weirdos that don't ever use cruise control...

Hah, I am one of those weirdos!  I haven't used cruise control in years.  The traffic around me is too heavy to be able to maintain a steady speed unless it's a slow speed, and I don't do slow.  :evildude:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2022, 10:56:46 AM
I use cruise control all the time, even through I-15 in SLC. Traffic flows well enough outside of rush hour that I can set it to 75-80 and then I never worry about speeding tickets even if I pass a cop.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 30, 2022, 11:01:37 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2022, 10:56:46 AM
I use cruise control all the time, even through I-15 in SLC. Traffic flows well enough outside of rush hour that I can set it to 75-80 and then I never worry about speeding tickets even if I pass a cop.

I loooove being able to set cruise. And yes on not worrying about cops!!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on July 30, 2022, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: dazzleman on July 30, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Hah, I am one of those weirdos!  I haven't used cruise control in years.  The traffic around me is too heavy to be able to maintain a steady speed unless it's a slow speed, and I don't do slow.  :evildude:

That's where adaptive cruise rules.

Set the speed to 95, adjust the following distance, and just keep her between the white lines.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: dazzleman on July 30, 2022, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 30, 2022, 11:12:45 AM
That's where adaptive cruise rules.

Set the speed to 95, adjust the following distance, and just keep her between the white lines.

:lol: :pullover: :lockedup: 95 is a little fast for me these days man!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 30, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 30, 2022, 11:12:45 AM
That's where adaptive cruise rules.

Set the speed to 95, adjust the following distance, and just keep her between the white lines.

Cars will even do that part for you nowadays too.... :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2022, 06:25:49 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 30, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
Cars will even do that part for you nowadays too.... :lol:

I still haven't driven a car where I like the lane keep assist very much. I think Tesla might be good but the others do too much pingponging or are too strict about staying exactly in the middle, so they are too active. Whereas I might straighten out the lanes a bit while still staying in the lines
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: dazzleman on July 30, 2022, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 30, 2022, 06:25:49 PM
I still haven't driven a car where I like the lane keep assist very much. I think Tesla might be good but the others do too much pingponging or are too strict about staying exactly in the middle, so they are too active. Whereas I might straighten out the lanes a bit while still staying in the lines

I really don't like lane assist.  More than once, it has tried to steer me into a parked car when the parked car protruded into what lane assist thought should be the driving lane.  It's not great around curves either.  One time, it thought I was going to hit a parked car because it didn't really that the road curved before I would pass the car.  It's things like this that make me a skeptic about self-driving cars.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on July 30, 2022, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on July 30, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Hah, I am one of those weirdos!  I haven't used cruise control in years.  The traffic around me is too heavy to be able to maintain a steady speed unless it's a slow speed, and I don't do slow.  :evildude:
I'm the same, I'd rather just use my foot.  Really don't know what to do with it if it's not on the gas pedal.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on July 30, 2022, 11:11:06 PM
I rarely use cruise control.  Never experienced my right foot getting tired plus I'm constantly adjusting speed based on other vehicles near me especially semi trucks,  road conditions, and topography.  I hate being near semi trucks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 31, 2022, 01:55:43 PM
well a better off-road package may be released soon. It was on the website and got pulled down:

Maverick Tremor

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/maverick-tremor-off-road-package-details-revealed-then-pulled.18398/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 31, 2022, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 31, 2022, 01:55:43 PM
well a better off-road package may be released soon. It was on the website and got pulled down:

Maverick Tremor

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/maverick-tremor-off-road-package-details-revealed-then-pulled.18398/

Greatest Of All Time modes? :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 31, 2022, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 31, 2022, 02:17:59 PM
Greatest Of All Time modes? :lol:

:lol:

"goes over any type of terrain" in one of the ads.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CALL_911 on August 01, 2022, 05:20:13 AM
I hate the name "tremor". I associate tremors with senility
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 01, 2022, 08:33:58 AM
I just think of the SciFi movie
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on August 01, 2022, 10:25:43 AM
Lane keeping in the CR-V was pretty good.  The CX-5's sucks; on the rare occasions it actually detects the lines, the steering wheel just buzzes imperceptibly when you wander too far.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on August 01, 2022, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on August 01, 2022, 05:20:13 AM
I hate the name "tremor". I associate tremors with senility

Alcoholic withdrawal :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 11:48:53 AM
Quote from: Laconian on August 01, 2022, 10:34:08 AM
Alcoholic withdrawal :lol:

Eat some kudzu. It'll pass.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 01, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on August 01, 2022, 05:20:13 AM
I hate the name "tremor". I associate tremors with senility

It was originally a 500-watt sound system upgrade package. That they now use it as a name for an offroad package is kind of weird; especially since they already have Sasquatch, Raptor, Rattler, FX4, and half a dozen other off road package/trim levels.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 01, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
It was originally a 500-watt sound system upgrade package. That they now use it as a name for an offroad package is kind of weird; especially since they already have Sasquatch, Raptor, Rattler, FX4, and half a dozen other off road package/trim levels.

Rattler? Now that's definitely a Ford.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 01, 2022, 01:27:45 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 01, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
It was originally a 500-watt sound system upgrade package. That they now use it as a name for an offroad package is kind of weird; especially since they already have Sasquatch, Raptor, Rattler, FX4, and half a dozen other off road package/trim levels.

The Big 3 loves to have a million trim levels for the same truck. Almost Porsche level.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 01, 2022, 08:25:13 PM
Eeeek I just looked for fun at Carmax and ebay. $20k trucks are listed for $36k.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 01, 2022, 08:25:13 PM
Eeeek I just looked for fun at Carmax and ebay. $20k trucks are listed for $36k.

Yeah, you're supposed to be able to order one for MSRP, but dealers are dirtbags. The whole dealership model is antiquated and shitty.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 01, 2022, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 08:41:52 PM
Yeah, you're supposed to be able to order one for MSRP, but dealers are dirtbags. The whole dealership model is antiquated and shitty.

Even Ford thinks so.

https://jalopnik.com/ford-ceo-wants-to-abolish-the-dealership-experience-as-1849007700/amp
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 01, 2022, 09:10:07 PM
Even Ford thinks so.

https://jalopnik.com/ford-ceo-wants-to-abolish-the-dealership-experience-as-1849007700/amp

For the life of me I have no idea how these dealerships have been getting away with this MSRP plus destination fee, dealer prep fee, and other fees they keep adding on. MSRP stands for manufacturers suggested retail price. Retail price, as in not wholesale. The retail seller should not be allowed to add fees to a retail price. GTFO with the fees. All I want to pay for is the undercoating, the clear coat protectant, pinstripes, window etching, floor mats, and the extended warranty.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 02, 2022, 12:27:05 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 01, 2022, 09:41:25 PM
For the life of me I have no idea how these dealerships have been getting away with this MSRP plus destination fee, dealer prep fee, and other fees they keep adding on. MSRP stands for manufacturers suggested retail price. Retail price, as in not wholesale. The retail seller should not be allowed to add fees to a retail price. GTFO with the fees. All I want to pay for is the undercoating, the clear coat protectant, pinstripes, window etching, floor mats, and the extended warranty.

"Suggested."
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on August 02, 2022, 03:09:05 PM
Dealer networks operate largely under the protection of state franchise laws, which are jealously guarded by state dealer associations. That is why it takes several days for the stink of putrefaction to fade after you've gone through a typical car buying process.

e.g. Tesla is now building cars in Texas. But if you're a buyer who actually lives in Texas, the state makes the transaction & taking delivery difficult.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 02, 2022, 04:06:46 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 02, 2022, 12:27:05 AM
"Suggested."

I suggest they blow it out their asses.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 02, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on August 02, 2022, 04:06:46 PM
I suggest they blow it out their asses.

I suggested to a political canvasser today that he crank his scrotum through a linguini press.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 02, 2022, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 02, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
I suggested to a political canvasser today that he crank his scrotum through a linguini press.

They would have my vote. I respect dedication.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 07, 2022, 08:08:42 PM
So no surprise here, the Maverick is out-selling the Santa Cruz about 2:1.
Price point, "truckiness", and Ford can't make enough 40mpg hybrids.

I was a little surprised: "Last month, Ford dealers shifted 6,720 trucks. In fact, it outsold the larger Ranger by 70%"

https://tfltruck.com/2022/08/july-2022-sales-report-small-trucks-ford-maverick-hyundai-santa-cruz/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on August 09, 2022, 06:15:01 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 07, 2022, 08:08:42 PM
So no surprise here, the Maverick is out-selling the Santa Cruz about 2:1.
Price point, "truckiness", and Ford can't make enough 40mpg hybrids.

I was a little surprised: "Last month, Ford dealers shifted 6,720 trucks. In fact, it outsold the larger Ranger by 70%"

https://tfltruck.com/2022/08/july-2022-sales-report-small-trucks-ford-maverick-hyundai-santa-cruz/

They cannot keep up with orders. This was a brilliant move by Ford. They really just hit the market with the right product at the right time.

The Maverick is a bonafide hit. A big one for Ford. The only question is can they keep the quality decent enough to keep up with demand. The only thing that will likely kill the momentum of the Maverick is traditional Ford fuckery.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on August 09, 2022, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on August 09, 2022, 06:15:01 AM
They cannot keep up with orders. This was a brilliant move by Ford. They really just hit the market with the right product at the right time.

The Maverick is a bonafide hit. A big one for Ford. The only question is can they keep the quality decent enough to keep up with demand. The only thing that will likely kill the momentum of the Maverick is traditional Ford fuckery.

The market for a small, efficient truck has been vacant in America for far too long.  Is it a "true" truck?  No, but it seats four people comfortably enough and has a bed to put shit in...that's 99% of what people want/need from a truck.

I find it sort of odd that you can't get AWD with the hybrid setup.  I'm sure there's a mechanical reason for it, but turns away many northern buyers who really want that 40mpg city mileage.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 09, 2022, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 09, 2022, 10:00:55 AM
The market for a small, efficient truck has been vacant in America for far too long.  Is it a "true" truck?  No, but it seats four people comfortably enough and has a bed to put shit in...that's 99% of what people want/need from a truck.

I find it sort of odd that you can't get AWD with the hybrid setup.  I'm sure there's a mechanical reason for it, but turns away many northern buyers who really want that 40mpg city mileage.

AWD is overrated. Just weld the front diff. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 12, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
So we cancelled our order in June. Wife got an email with VIN that it's scheduled to build Aug 29th. Add in a few weeks for QC and shipment from Mexico...

We still would love it, but dealer probably plans to upsell it for $5-10k. We will probably go visit them tomorrow but we literally have no bargaining power. They have an email from us saying we cancelled the order because we were tired of waiting...

I'd offer the 2015 Civic, with 2 new tires and battery and key fob we bought as trade-in, but I think we'll still get screwed for the truck...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on August 13, 2022, 09:38:03 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 12, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
So we cancelled our order in June. Wife got an email with VIN that it's scheduled to build Aug 29th. Add in a few weeks for QC and shipment from Mexico...

We still would love it, but dealer probably plans to upsell it for $5-10k. We will probably go visit them tomorrow but we literally have no bargaining power. They have an email from us saying we cancelled the order because we were tired of waiting...

I'd offer the 2015 Civic, with 2 new tires and battery and key fob we bought as trade-in, but I think we'll still get screwed for the truck...

Happy wife equals happy life.   :lol: 

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on August 13, 2022, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 12, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
So we cancelled our order in June. Wife got an email with VIN that it's scheduled to build Aug 29th. Add in a few weeks for QC and shipment from Mexico...

We still would love it, but dealer probably plans to upsell it for $5-10k. We will probably go visit them tomorrow but we literally have no bargaining power. They have an email from us saying we cancelled the order because we were tired of waiting...

I'd offer the 2015 Civic, with 2 new tires and battery and key fob we bought as trade-in, but I think we'll still get screwed for the truck...

You didn't get them to confirm no markup prior to ordering?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 13, 2022, 11:22:42 AM
Quote from: MrH on August 13, 2022, 09:42:09 AM
You didn't get them to confirm no markup prior to ordering?

It's a dealers market. We verbally agreed MSRP the first time.

Just got back, they have our $500 deposit again and we'll talk details Monday, they were stupid busy.

Oh and we'll probably keep Civic and sell or trade Odyssey.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CALL_911 on August 13, 2022, 11:38:11 AM
They told you they were too busy to talk the details? What kind of two bit operation is this....?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 13, 2022, 04:41:11 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on August 13, 2022, 11:38:11 AM
They told you they were too busy to talk the details? What kind of two bit operation is this....?

Looks like they were missing a few salesmen. One came in and said someone wanted to look at an Explorer, but he also had someone he was helping. The manager asked if he could go do something something else before talking to their customer.

They have what I assume is the finance manager/ other managers in a separate office at the front with windows facing outside and a raised floor so they can see inside too. A couple customers opened the door and walked in, they tried to shoo them out quickly.

I'm sure they want to run the numbers and figure out how much they can fleece us for. I don't have my hopes up- we'll walk if they ask for too much. These trucks are going for $1-10k over MSRP. Our only leverage is Ford wants a certain percentage (80%?) of orders to go to the customer who ordered it. Supposedly Ford will crack down on dealers who are throwing extra money on and/or selling to non-order-customers, but they haven't enforced that well enough for dealers to not be shady.

The XL NEW starts at $20k, the XLT starts at like $23k. Add $2k for ecoboost, and another $2k for AWD. Our hybrid LARIAT build with most of the goodies except sunroof and $500paint MSRP is $32k=

https://www.carmax.com/cars?search=ford+maverick
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on August 14, 2022, 09:09:29 AM
$2k for ecoboost? Wtf?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on August 14, 2022, 10:01:09 AM
I'd be down for an XLT Hybrid
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 14, 2022, 06:20:46 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 14, 2022, 09:09:29 AM
$2k for ecoboost? Wtf?

Base engine is hybrid 2.5L NA. Only tows 2k lbs and no AWD option.

Ford figured most would get the 2.0L 4k towing turbo. But those were available while the hybrid demand has been bonkers.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 15, 2022, 09:16:03 PM
Well they printed off our purchase agreement, it has wife's and their manager's signature on the $32,275-
We got Lariat with "luxury pack" and "Co-pilot 360", the most self-driving stuff Ford has now. We actually asked them a few months ago to take that off to try to hurry the order, we'll see how it gets built. That would drop it down to $27k something without.

Sales guy said his brother called him and asked how to get a Maverick- he told him, "pray"....   and laughed.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on August 16, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
Wait. So are you getting it or no?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 16, 2022, 06:55:42 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on August 16, 2022, 04:31:01 PM
Wait. So are you getting it or no?

I hope so. If they try to spring a bunch of extra fees on us, we'll walk away. It's scheduled to be built Aug29, salesguy thinks it would be here by 6weeks later.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on September 04, 2022, 12:59:21 PM
They told you there'd be a massive market, you backed out, and now you walked back in and gave them a $500 deposit again without any confirmation of what the sales price would be?

:wtf:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 04, 2022, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: MrH on September 04, 2022, 12:59:21 PM
They told you there'd be a massive market, you backed out, and now you walked back in and gave them a $500 deposit again without any confirmation of what the sales price would be?

:wtf:

They never told me a massive market. I just assume it "may" be up-priced on their part. The paperwork they gave us (and re-gave us) says MSRP. I'm just hoping they don't try to stiff us for more- if they do, we'll walk.  We literally have no leverage to keep the cost at the agreed price- they know they can sell it for way more if we walk. Deposit is refundable.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 15, 2022, 06:53:00 PM
OH so our Mav was supposed to enter production Aug29th. We got an email Sep13th that it's pushed to Sep26th....

The order banks are supposedly open today for the 2023 models. They will likely only be taking orders for a few months, depending on demand.....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on September 15, 2022, 06:59:59 PM
Wtfffff man. When I went to the dealership and got the Taco, she showed me a list of incoming units, I picked one, put down a deposit, she told me the build date, and a month after build it showed up.

Did you custom-order it or just pick it off the list of the list of their allotted incoming units?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 15, 2022, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 15, 2022, 06:59:59 PM
Wtfffff man. When I went to the dealership and got the Taco, she showed me a list of incoming units, I picked one, put down a deposit, she told me the build date, and a month after build it showed up.

Did you custom-order it or just pick it off the list of the list of their allotted incoming units?

They were ALL spoken for- the very few that end up at the dealerships without a buyer (changed mind for whatever reason) are snatched up quick. They literally stopped taking orders for 2022 in December 2021.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on September 15, 2022, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 15, 2022, 08:46:50 PM
They were ALL spoken for- the very few that end up at the dealerships without a buyer (changed mind for whatever reason) are snatched up quick. They literally stopped taking orders for 2022 in December 2021.

So did you put a deposit down so that your unit is spoken-for? I'm confused. A deposit implies that yours is spoken for.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on September 16, 2022, 08:13:39 AM
I have zero idea how Will interacts with this dealer :lol:

No agreed upon pricing, nothing seems certain, etc.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SJ_GTI on September 16, 2022, 09:03:20 AM
I saw a Maverick out on the road for the first time recently. Its a good looking truck. I liked how small it was as well. I am not really a truck person but if I wanted one as a daily driver this would be it.

I see quite a few of the Hyundai truck things so I assume they are more available (at least in this area).
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 16, 2022, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: MrH on September 16, 2022, 08:13:39 AM
I have zero idea how Will interacts with this dealer :lol:

No agreed upon pricing, nothing seems certain, etc.

Sounds like most Maverick orders to me.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on September 16, 2022, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: MrH on September 16, 2022, 08:13:39 AM
I have zero idea how Will interacts with this dealer :lol:

No agreed upon pricing, nothing seems certain, etc.

Makes my local 'Yota dealership seem like a dream despite the horror story gossip.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 16, 2022, 09:54:40 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on September 16, 2022, 09:53:24 AM
Makes my local 'Yota dealership seem like a dream despite the horror story gossip.

Tacos have good demand but Ford's recent launches have been crazy. Maverick, Lightning, and Bronco demand is through the roof and their pre-orders are filled very quickly. Tacos aren't brand new so the demand has been more leveled off
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on September 16, 2022, 10:32:45 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 16, 2022, 09:16:02 AM
Sounds like most Maverick orders to me.

This is how it was for our Bronco too lol. It was the most disorganized purchase experience. $100 initial reservation deposit + $ deposit to convert to an official order, that was it. No discussions on out the door price aside from a verbal agreement on "MSRP no markups". We tried to meet with them to sign any official paperwork but they said don't worry about it.

Bronco build date got pushed and pushed with no info from Ford until suddenly it arrived at the dealership for pickup and a salesperson called and said "I think this is your Bronco?". I had been tracking the VIN on some backdoor sites and knew when it hit the assembly line but didn't know when it got shipped. Surprisingly they held to MSRP, papers signed in an hour.

It's a mess, Ford has too many hot vehicles right now and they have horrible communication with their dealerships & customers.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on September 16, 2022, 10:47:44 AM
When I put a deposit down for the Taco, they printed off its paperwork with the VIN, MSRP, etc. So when they told me it was in, I used that VIN and put it on my insurance so it'd be set for pickup the next day. But then the next day, she texted me a different VIN, so I had to change it on the insurance. Ended up with the same exact truck, but a different VIN. Was sorta confused, but no difference to me. Same truck, same price.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on September 16, 2022, 02:10:55 PM
I hope the FTC starts going after the dealership system and also the states that enable it. The whole incestuous crooked racket needs to be shut down.
You should be able to go on to Ford's web site.
Order the one you want.
Put down a deposit.
Get the VIN & track it.
They email you when it's ready to be picked up by you or delivered to you.
You pay the balance.
No dealer involvement.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 16, 2022, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 16, 2022, 02:10:55 PM
I hope the FTC starts going after the dealership system and also the states that enable it. The whole incestuous crooked racket needs to be shut down.
You should be able to go on to Ford's web site.
Order the one you want.
Put down a deposit.
Get the VIN & track it.
They email you when it's ready to be picked up by you or delivered to you.
You pay the balance.
No dealer involvement.

I've almost bought a Tesla a couple of times because I could just order it online. I hate dealerships wasting my time.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 16, 2022, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on September 16, 2022, 10:32:45 AM
This is how it was for our Bronco too lol. It was the most disorganized purchase experience. $100 initial reservation deposit + $ deposit to convert to an official order, that was it. No discussions on out the door price aside from a verbal agreement on "MSRP no markups". We tried to meet with them to sign any official paperwork but they said don't worry about it.

Bronco build date got pushed and pushed with no info from Ford until suddenly it arrived at the dealership for pickup and a salesperson called and said "I think this is your Bronco?". I had been tracking the VIN on some backdoor sites and knew when it hit the assembly line but didn't know when it got shipped. Surprisingly they held to MSRP, papers signed in an hour.

It's a mess, Ford has too many hot vehicles right now and they have horrible communication with their dealerships & customers.

It's definitely a mess. Thousands of posts on the MaverickTruckClub about how to get a truck, everything that has gone right or wrong with getting one.

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 16, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on September 16, 2022, 09:03:20 AM
I saw a Maverick out on the road for the first time recently. Its a good looking truck. I liked how small it was as well. I am not really a truck person but if I wanted one as a daily driver this would be it.

I see quite a few of the Hyundai truck things so I assume they are more available (at least in this area).

The Santa Cruz is more available even though they're selling less than half as many.

The Maverick ticks ALL the right boxes for us- and MANY others who have never bought a truck before: utility + low price + decent gas mileage.

I'm super duper way ultra shocked that the market (including & especially Ford) are surprised about the popularity.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on September 16, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 16, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
The Santa Cruz is more available even though they're selling less than half as many.

The Maverick ticks ALL the right boxes for us- and MANY others who have never bought a truck before: utility + low price + decent gas mileage.

I'm super duper way ultra shocked that the market (including & especially Ford) are surprised about the popularity.
Ford does come out with some winners from time to time.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 16, 2022, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 16, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Ford does come out with some winners from time to time.

I read an article a long time back in C&D about "game changing" cars. Like the VW Bug, Datsun 240, Taurus SHO. :lol:

They are all cars which drastically affected the market. I would add to the list:
-Ford Explorer (brought SUVs to the soccer mom crowd, even though Jeep Cherokees were around forever they weren't as "mainstream").
-Prius (most successful hybrid ever?)
-original Ranger/ S10. Made small pickups popular.
-PT Cruiser (made "retro" cool)
-Ford Maverick pickup. Going to revolutionize the industry....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on September 18, 2022, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 16, 2022, 02:51:46 PM
I've almost bought a Tesla a couple of times because I could just order it online. I hate dealerships wasting my time.
I once made the mistake of buying a new iPhone at an AT&T store. It was grueling, very time-consuming & with lots of lame upselling attempts. So much pain for just a damned phone.
Next time around I bought one from Apple's site - super easy & FedExed to me.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Galaxy on September 18, 2022, 09:55:44 PM
So 2023 Mavericks are already sold out it seems.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 19, 2022, 04:58:34 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on September 18, 2022, 09:55:44 PM
So 2023 Mavericks are already sold out it seems.

That is SOOOOOO CRAZY!!!!

Ford should open as many shifts as they can at the plant to build more of them.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/2023-maverick-retail-order-banks-closing-next-week-tremor-package-ordering-starts-tomorrow-9-17.20403/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on September 19, 2022, 07:13:40 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on September 19, 2022, 04:58:34 AM
That is SOOOOOO CRAZY!!!!

Ford should open as many shifts as they can at the plant to build more of them.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/2023-maverick-retail-order-banks-closing-next-week-tremor-package-ordering-starts-tomorrow-9-17.20403/

I highly doubt their constraint is their shift model right now.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on September 19, 2022, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: MrH on September 19, 2022, 07:13:40 AM
I highly doubt their constraint is their shift model right now.

There is an employee shortage problem; but you're right- that's not the current bottleneck- its one of the "next in line" bottlenecks.

The current issue is suppliers.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on September 19, 2022, 10:18:52 AM
My Dad drives a base model Maverick in mint condition with less than 15 thousand miles on it that I had him buy new without mark up from a local Ford dealer.  He had put his name down on a waiting list a year or two ago and got it when they were first came on sale.  No delay in getting it because it's a base model and was not as subject to a chip shortage.  He loves it. 

I'm wondering if I should tell him to put it on Autotrader for $35 thousand  :lol:  He bought it for around $20 thousand.  I think it would sell pretty quick.   

I don't think I will because I know he likes it a lot.  He only buys Ford and GM and loves driving my Mom's car (Ford Fusion Hybrid) on long distance trips.  He's 79 years old. 

Potentially 15 thousand dollar profit is pretty good though.  A new Ford Bronco Sport would also be perfect for him to daily drive.

And sorry AutobahnSHO :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 19, 2022, 03:56:12 PM
LOL no problem. Wife and I have talked about IF we get ours at MSRP flipping it. It's pretty tempting!

I thought the prices would drop off by next year, but not if the market is so insane they can't build them still.

And yes, you guys are right- the constraints have been computer chips. I'm betting Ford is allocating just enough of those to the Maverick to meet their EPA mileage mandates/ goals- the rest go to the money makers: big trucks and Broncos.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 20, 2022, 05:45:06 AM
LOL Ordering stops the 20th for hybrid and 21st for turbow. Not even a full week of ordering. :mask:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/%E2%9B%94%EF%B8%8F-official-bulletin-2023-maverick-order-banks-closing-on-9-20-hybrid-and-9-21-ecoboost.20618/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Speed_Racer on September 30, 2022, 10:53:01 AM
I've seen a lot more Mavericks around town within the past 4 weeks. Just one hybrid so far. But nearly all have been rocking steel wheels, a very cool look.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on September 30, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on September 30, 2022, 10:53:01 AM
I've seen a lot more Mavericks around town within the past 4 weeks. Just one hybrid so far. But nearly all have been rocking steel wheels, a very cool look.

I'd definitely tell the dealership to give me the steel wheels even on an upper trim.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 30, 2022, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on September 30, 2022, 10:53:01 AM
I've seen a lot more Mavericks around town within the past 4 weeks. Just one hybrid so far. But nearly all have been rocking steel wheels, a very cool look.

That's the only wheel that comes on the XL (base) trim.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 30, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
I'd definitely tell the dealership to give me the steel wheels even on an upper trim.

Lots of people have asked about trading- most that have the base wheels don't want to "upgrade". I don't get it.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 30, 2022, 06:38:04 PM
I keep seeing a cyber orange Maverick here now.

And saw one in the color we ordered (carbonized grey).

Oh and our build date got pushed back again. week of Aug 29 -> Sep? -> Oct 3 -> Oct 17.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 11, 2022, 07:03:01 PM
HAHAHAHA build date pushed back to Nov14.

They were supposed to start building 2023 trucks that day.....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on October 11, 2022, 07:51:07 PM
The "never getting my Maverick" saga continues.  :rage:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 11, 2022, 08:34:07 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 11, 2022, 07:51:07 PM
The "never getting my Maverick" saga continues.  :rage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLmbC8Pggco
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on October 11, 2022, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 11, 2022, 07:03:01 PM
HAHAHAHA build date pushed back to Nov14.

They were supposed to start building 2023 trucks that day.....

Your truck infotainment's going to be powered by a 386 processor..
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on October 12, 2022, 12:55:30 PM
I wonder how much of this is strategic and Ford hopes buyers just give up and move onto a F150 at 10x the profit
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 12, 2022, 01:24:24 PM
Quote from: Laconian on October 11, 2022, 11:33:10 PM
Your truck infotainment's going to be powered by a 386 processor..

Then he can play Links 386. The graphics are so good that he can pretend it's disc golf. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 25, 2022, 05:31:05 AM
LOL Pushed to December 5th. Word is trucks pushed to Dec 12th won't be built as MY 2022 (even though they have assigned VINs) but will be re-ordered and prioritized as 2023 trucks. We'll see.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 25, 2022, 05:31:42 AM
Quote from: r0tor on October 12, 2022, 12:55:30 PM
I wonder how much of this is strategic and Ford hopes buyers just give up and move onto a F150 at 10x the profit

yeah I'm sure they allocated enough parts to build just enough Mavericks to bring their average gas mileage to a target then will use the rest of the chips and such for money makers.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 26, 2022, 07:27:43 PM
Aaaand bumped to December 19th. Which 99% means won't get built, we "should" get a discount and top of the line for a 2023. Prices went up $1000+ from 2022 to 2023....

They've delayed their 2023 start trying to still build the 2022 trucks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 18, 2022, 07:40:13 PM
I know you guys are on the edge of your seats so... :thumbsup:

Our 2022 truck that was originally scheduled to be built Aug29 and even has a 2022 VIN but was delayed a bunch of times (to December 19) has been cancelled. Ford has created duplicate 2023 orders for all those trucks they can't build this year, and it was up to the dealers to ensure the order# is not duplicated. We have to also depend/ hassle the dealer to change the priority code from the default 99 (which will never get built) by end of November or it would get cancelled.

So I still need to talk with the dealer and confirm options (many changed for 2023). And supposedly they'll roll a $2375 discount onto our 2023 order (make up for the price increase 2022 ---> 2023) , which will rumoredly get built in January before the other 2023 trucks.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SVT_Power on November 19, 2022, 07:54:58 AM
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on November 19, 2022, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 18, 2022, 07:40:13 PM
I know you guys are on the edge of your seats so... :thumbsup:

Our 2022 truck that was originally scheduled to be built Aug29 and even has a 2022 VIN but was delayed a bunch of times (to December 19) has been cancelled. Ford has created duplicate 2023 orders for all those trucks they can't build this year, and it was up to the dealers to ensure the order# is not duplicated. We have to also depend/ hassle the dealer to change the priority code from the default 99 (which will never get built) by end of November or it would get cancelled.

So I still need to talk with the dealer and confirm options (many changed for 2023). And supposedly they'll roll a $2375 discount onto our 2023 order (make up for the price increase 2022 ---> 2023) , which will rumoredly get built in January before the other 2023 trucks.

Sigh.

I wonder what will get built first.  Your Maverick or Elon's Cybertruck.   :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 19, 2022, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: veeman on November 19, 2022, 09:17:57 PM
I wonder what will get built first.  Your Maverick or Elon's Cybertruck.   :lol:

Mavericks built already= lots.
So I think our odds are higher? :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on November 19, 2022, 09:36:44 PM
You need to start raisin' some hell over there.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 21, 2022, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 19, 2022, 09:36:44 PM
You need to start raisin' some hell over there.

LOL Ford is building as fast as they can. They heard customers over the debacle- ordering in 2021 was many months. It was only one week this year and they shut off orders to try to make sure they can build them all. LOLOLOLOLOL
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 31, 2022, 04:29:28 PM
Lol is this OUR Kevin journalist??

https://www.theautopian.com/i-maybe-accidentally-ordered-a-ford-maverick-but-i-dont-think-ill-see-it-next-year/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on January 01, 2023, 08:06:33 PM
Yeah, that's our Kevin.

https://www.theautopian.com/tag/kevin-williams/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on January 01, 2023, 09:04:37 PM
Kind of sad that Kevin didn't talk about the chicken tax. I wish more people knew about it and could push for its repeal.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on January 01, 2023, 09:23:12 PM
Back in June when he ordered it I told him I'd take it if he doesn't want it. If it ever comes!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 17, 2023, 03:32:18 PM
Supposedly our truck will be built in early March, takes about 6 weeks to deliver from Mehico.

Word is Ford won't be able to build HALF of the 2023 hybrids ordered- even though they only took orders for about 10 days.....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 31, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
DILEMMA TIME!!!!!!!

Maverick has arrived!   

Ordered in October 2021 when I was in Kuwait and we'd need (want) a vehicle when I got back. No ETA so we bought 2015 Civic instead.

1- We do NOT need Maverick. We have Odyssey, Civic, Scrappy.
2- We ordered Lariat to get the dual zone climate control and other goodies- out the door would be $32k plus taxes.
3- We are on track to pay off our house under 10 years and have 6months living expenses in cash, paying the house off would also allow me to retire earlier.

IF we take Maverick
4- we would grab a loan until we can move money from accounts to pay it off in a month.
5- we would trade in Civic (to reduce purchase price and keep 3 different "size" vehicles).
6- Insurance is only about $200/ 6 months
6a- this would set us back some on paying off house and retirement

We "COULD"
7- Buy Maverick and flip it for $5k profit probably. But that feels scummy. We'd have to keep Civic so take some risk on higher purchase price and being able to sell it.
8- Skip it altogether (which makes way more sense money-wise). Invest money into retirement, keeping cash reserve.

We both "WANT" the truck but absolutely don't need it. We're going tomorrow and hope to have at least most of a decision before we get there.
BIG SIGH!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 31, 2023, 07:21:20 PM
Trade in the Civic and rock the Maverick. You deserve it
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 07:22:27 PM
Aren't the residuals of the Maverick really strong? You can reframe of the actual expense of owning the Maverick in terms of operating costs and depreciation. You aren't lighting money on fire, after all... well, except for the taxes and fees lol
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on March 31, 2023, 07:22:33 PM
You'll regret not getting it.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 31, 2023, 07:26:30 PM
If it was a luxury car, maybe it would make sense to skip it. But it's a practical, fuel efficient vehicle that you both like. Seems like a good purchase
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 31, 2023, 07:38:59 PM
Sigh you guys aren't helping with the usual rational-ness :thumbsup:

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 31, 2023, 07:21:20 PM
Trade in the Civic and rock the Maverick. You deserve it

LOL sure we should "treat ourselves" but then just feels like starting over on excellent financial path

Quote from: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 07:22:27 PM
Aren't the residuals of the Maverick really strong? You can reframe of the actual expense of owning the Maverick in terms of operating costs and depreciation. You aren't lighting money on fire, after all... well, except for the taxes and fees lol

They're VERY strong now because it's the cheapest vehicle Ford sells, only thing like it on the market, and good value. In a few years if they can get the quantity up, may not be a good thing at all. But we really would plan to drive it 10 years....

Quote from: FoMoJo on March 31, 2023, 07:22:33 PM
You'll regret not getting it.

Sure but would we MORE regret not paying off the house a year or two earlier??....

Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 31, 2023, 07:26:30 PM
If it was a luxury car, maybe it would make sense to skip it. But it's a practical, fuel efficient vehicle that you both like. Seems like a good purchase

Agree, but is it the BEST choice financially right now?...

I appreciate all of the input, I'm not arguing, just presenting counterpoint.

Who knows, maybe when we see it in person we won't be comfortable in it or whatever. :huh:

This is what it would look like, except I'm not sure that the bedliner made it to the MY 22-23 transfer. And we did not order a tonneau cover, nor the bed extender.
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/carbonized-gray-maverick-lariat-gleams-in-the-sun-showing-hard-rollup-bed-cover.1334/
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 07:51:41 PM
You're asking this question on a car forum. We're not all driving sensible Corollas here. What did you expect? :lol:

Another angle to consider is that the Civic is middle aged. I'm pretty sure you won't want to drive it ten years into the future. The Maverick will come with a warranty and you'll enjoy a number of trouble free years while it's in its prime.

Plus you DO have a house now. Trucks are incredibly useful for landscaping and house-related things. I borrow my dad's truck for dump runs.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on March 31, 2023, 07:58:28 PM
As I remember from your earlier posts, your wife really wanted the Maverick in the first place and initiated the whole process while you were in Kuwait. 

Get the Maverick.  Trade in Civic, if Ford dealership gives you decent value for it.  If Ford low balls you on the Civic, I would not trade it in and would sell on my own.  KBB will often give you dollar amounts that nearby dealerships will give you for your car.  I would go into the Ford Dealership armed with this amount. 

If you have Maverick, my guess is you probably don't also need the Odyssey.  Your auto insurance costs seem really low ($200/6 months).  Is that a military discount?  It still costs money too maintain the Odyssey though. 

Good luck Will with whatever you decide!   
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 31, 2023, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 07:51:41 PM
You're asking this question on a car forum. We're not all driving sensible Corollas here. What did you expect? :lol:

Another angle to consider is that the Civic is middle aged. I'm pretty sure you won't want to drive it ten years into the future. The Maverick will come with a warranty and you'll enjoy a number of trouble free years while it's in its prime.

Plus you DO have a house now. Trucks are incredibly useful for landscaping and house-related things. I borrow my dad's truck for dump runs.

All good points....   :lol:

Quote from: veeman on March 31, 2023, 07:58:28 PM
As I remember from your earlier posts, your wife really wanted the Maverick in the first place and initiated the whole process while you were in Kuwait. 

Get the Maverick.  Trade in Civic, if Ford dealership gives you decent value for it.  If Ford low balls you on the Civic, I would not trade it in and would sell on my own.  KBB will often give you dollar amounts that nearby dealerships will give you for your car.  I would go into the Ford Dealership armed with this amount. 

If you have Maverick, my guess is you probably don't also need the Odyssey.  Your auto insurance costs seem really low ($200/6 months).  Is that a military discount?  It still costs money too maintain the Odyssey though. 

Good luck Will with whatever you decide!   

Although gas mileage sucks in Odyssey, it's far more capable than Civic. Maverick hybrid is only rated to tow 2000 lbs while Odyssey can do 3500 (and towed Scrappy from VA to SC).

Currently wife drives Civic to work and me Scrappy unless it's rainy, then she takes Odyssey and I take Civic. She would likely want Mav, for her not digging keys out of her purse is the greatest thing ever LOL. (Civic and Mav have keyless entry/ pushstart).

As far as insurance, MY BAD- I don't know what I was looking at. We're both late 40s with no tickets/ accidents the last 15+ years. Using USAA which is honestly always cheaper than other quotes I've compared: 
Civic is $334/ 6month
Mav $408/ 6month
Odyssey $346/ 6 month
and Scrappy liability only $179/ 6 month.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 31, 2023, 08:08:12 PM
LOL great batch of pictures and check out the other cars they're selling next to America's Cheapest Truck!TM

This is silver, ours is dark grey

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325593814261?hash=item4bcee754f5:g:jbsAAOSwG5hkJGQl&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAwHM7OC%2BaftZFUoL6a0SeXYU9kLfIX3M2GwAwqzIOA1NgYKqZ7NeEpMQG61cdz2VxRePCLH0HsZbeKRrisFAGxAb4y5zLbI6UUaJRUn74JiyCw4u40CNc22nh3%2Fs%2FFseBwB%2BlrhLw481FyCTPsBpCvvXjEDlZgu1V5T3rpbOP%2Fp4ouik9KbzCbH%2Fd%2Bq4P6pgb9H9aSCj18cgzhztTwfHA1aswUnhtbtf6Wa22fCwEuqDWbA0cbw2aPz0N2%2FVv50ryPA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_bQ3KfnYQ
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on March 31, 2023, 08:12:46 PM
You went through all this, and now you don't want it? The fuck, man.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 31, 2023, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 07:51:41 PM
You're asking this question on a car forum. We're not all driving sensible Corollas here. What did you expect? :lol:

Another angle to consider is that the Civic is middle aged. I'm pretty sure you won't want to drive it ten years into the future. The Maverick will come with a warranty and you'll enjoy a number of trouble free years while it's in its prime.

Plus you DO have a house now. Trucks are incredibly useful for landscaping and house-related things. I borrow my dad's truck for dump runs.

Trucks like TUNDRAS. :praise:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 08:50:10 PM
What do the folks on RamseySPIN say?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on March 31, 2023, 08:53:04 PM
Quote from: Laconian on March 31, 2023, 08:50:10 PM
What do the folks on RamseySPIN say?

Sell the house and rent until you can pay cash for it. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 02:00:59 PM
Well, we talked a lot, prayed on it and felt good, so...   :lol:

We got a loan (8.9% (?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!) for 48months is $600/monthly) to just make paperwork faster, we didn't have all the money transferred from other bank yet, we'll pay it off next week...

We ended up paying $1k over sticker after a $500 military discount, and I know that they'll also claim a "price reduction" credit of $2k because the sticker went up from 2022. WHATEVER. :rant:
Plus although the tradein is $11k for Civic (although it had a small accident and 110k miles), they first started with $6k and privately wife said she would take $8.5k just to not hassle with it, I said $10k but privately was ok with $9k but after going back a few times they came back with $8.5k so that was done.

A quick grocery trip (the long long way) in very hilly town and not trying to drive nice I ended up with 35mpg. :mask:

It's comfy, roomy enough, and so fun to have Android Auto built in, dual auto climate. They didn't put on the hitch we wanted (got lost on 22-23 MY transfer) and we'll get the bed sprayed still. I can do the hitch, just a hassle. Can't wait to do trucky things!!!  Although it was RAINING on the drive home (people were driving 30mph in 45mph zone) it's much much quieter than I thought a dirt-cheap truck would be! Most things are pretty intuitive.

you can see the corner of Civic:

(https://i.postimg.cc/KkQqCf5p/PXL-20230401-154417757-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkQqCf5p)

Scrappy usually doesn't even reach the door handles of the full-size (F-150etc...) trucks:

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZvR7mN7b/PXL-20230401-180635720-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZvR7mN7b)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 02:15:48 PM
Congratulations! I know you'll love it. As far as dream cars go this one's pretty darn practical.

Ah, DIY hitch installation isn't that big a deal, and at least you'll know it's done right. At least you have ground clearance to get underneath your bumper. Imagine the hell we went through with the EV6. We had barely enough height to do one click on the torque wrench!

8.9% is the auto loan rate these days? Jeeeeeez!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 01, 2023, 02:22:19 PM
:rockon:

Glad the markup wasn't too insane.
That gray paint looks really nice. Has some depth to it
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 01, 2023, 02:22:59 PM
Nice truck. I still think Maverick is one of the best new cars out there. My auto loan is 14.4%, if that makes you feel any better. :cheers:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on April 01, 2023, 02:25:19 PM
Congrats Will!  :rockon:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on April 01, 2023, 02:48:22 PM
Great looking truck.  Happy haulin'.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 02:48:53 PM
Cool "sheriff's badge" wheels! Or, hey, maybe it's a Star of David?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on April 01, 2023, 03:19:42 PM
Congratulations!  The smile on your wife's face is worth the purchase man. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 04:00:48 PM
Btw she wasn't super duper wanting the truck, but super supportive.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 04:57:17 PM
A small truck has an awesome ROI. Your wife will love it. The big furniture section of FB Marketplace is now unlocked!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 01, 2023, 05:56:48 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 04:00:48 PM
Btw she wasn't super duper wanting the truck, but super supportive.

Girls don't want trucks, they want boys that have trucks.

#TruckGang

:rastaman:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 07:12:10 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 04:57:17 PM
A small truck has an awesome ROI. Your wife will love it. The big furniture section of FB Marketplace is now unlocked!

LOL.
When we were living in Alexandria VA in a 1300 sq.ft. townhouse there were LOTS of places to go shopping. But our question became "where would we put it?"

That's still our mantra- we have too much stuff, looking to clean the garage up this year and build a very accommodating guest room.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 07:45:42 PM
Lol I need to mute the fake noise speaker some. I don't mind the fake driving noise but the backup beep is obnoxious!

https://youtu.be/hwxWabeanls

There is a wire with a resistor you can plug into the speaker lead, but I just want to make it quieter, not disable it.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 01, 2023, 07:47:51 PM
Maybe some foam tape on the speaker would work
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 08:10:52 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 07:12:10 PM
LOL.
When we were living in Alexandria VA in a 1300 sq.ft. townhouse there were LOTS of places to go shopping. But our question became "where would we put it?"

That's still our mantra- we have too much stuff, looking to clean the garage up this year and build a very accommodating guest room.

We've spiffed up our guest room on a reasonable budget by getting rid of our old spare particle board stuff and replacing it with real wood furniture from FB Marketplace.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 08:12:21 PM
Oh wow. That fake motor noise is awful!! It sounds like a chainsaw! Why would people opt for that over quietness?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 01, 2023, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 01, 2023, 07:47:51 PM
Maybe some foam tape on the speaker would work

That's what I'm thinking. Speaker is under front bumper.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 10:14:28 PM
Rig up an analog band pass filter?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2023, 05:00:27 AM
Quote from: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 08:12:21 PM
Oh wow. That fake motor noise is awful!! It sounds like a chainsaw! Why would people opt for that over quietness?

Too cheap to engineer better sounds?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2023, 05:09:53 AM
They didn't put the window sticker on, so we have it forever

(https://i.postimg.cc/kDFQGg6Q/PXL-20230402-110655482.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDFQGg6Q)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 02, 2023, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 01, 2023, 10:14:28 PM
Rig up an analog band pass filter?

Snipping wires is far easier.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 02, 2023, 03:42:51 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 02, 2023, 03:32:52 PM
Snipping wires is far easier.

If he wanted to keep the backup beep.

But yeah probably all that can just go away.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2023, 08:57:36 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 02, 2023, 03:32:52 PM
Snipping wires is far easier.

Then you get all kinds of error messages. Plus it's illegal. I read some guy put the "bypass" wire on his and the dealership took it off thinking it was causing issues when it was in for service.
-It's a connecter with a resistor you put in-line to the connector on the speaker.

The forward/reverse noise generator and backup beep both come from the same speaker. :(

I'm not super concerned with the illegal part- odds of running over someone while backing up are pretty low. But I'm sure it wouldn't be good at trial.

The driving noise is dumb but whatever. But seriously that backup beep is SO LOUD and obnoxious I told wife about it and she was in living room and texted me she heard it when I reversed out of the garage the first time.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2023, 09:00:49 PM
I KNOW- a switch in the cabin to turn it on/off!?!?!! Would be a simple enough mod...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SJ_GTI on April 03, 2023, 06:15:34 AM
Congrats! It looks great!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on April 03, 2023, 07:56:34 AM
Congrats!  So now you have a truck, minivan, and miata?  Wife dailys the mini van, and you drive the Maverick I take it?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2023, 08:25:49 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 02, 2023, 08:57:36 PM
Then you get all kinds of error messages. Plus it's illegal. I read some guy put the "bypass" wire on his and the dealership took it off thinking it was causing issues when it was in for service.
-It's a connecter with a resistor you put in-line to the connector on the speaker.

The forward/reverse noise generator and backup beep both come from the same speaker. :(

I'm not super concerned with the illegal part- odds of running over someone while backing up are pretty low. But I'm sure it wouldn't be good at trial.

The driving noise is dumb but whatever. But seriously that backup beep is SO LOUD and obnoxious I told wife about it and she was in living room and texted me she heard it when I reversed out of the garage the first time.

I don't think its illegal to cut it out.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 03, 2023, 09:23:37 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2023, 08:25:49 AM
I don't think its illegal to cut it out.

+1

Maybe in Germany.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on April 03, 2023, 10:05:55 AM
:wtf:  I just listened to that video.  Why did they make the noise sound like a terrible diesel idle?

The Bolt sounds ethereal.  Wife said it sounds like what she thinks a near death experience would sound like :lol:  I think it's more Jetsons than anything.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 03, 2023, 10:24:58 AM
The Jetsons had the sound figured out years ago.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 03, 2023, 12:18:32 PM
How do you think the noise maker is connected? CAN bus?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 03, 2023, 12:18:32 PM
How do you think the noise maker is connected? CAN bus?

I would assume LIN, which is really just another form off CANbus.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 03, 2023, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on April 03, 2023, 06:15:34 AM
Congrats! It looks great!

Quote from: MrH on April 03, 2023, 07:56:34 AM
Congrats!  So now you have a truck, minivan, and miata?  Wife dailys the mini van, and you drive the Maverick I take it?

Thanks guys. :)   

If it's not supposed to rain, I take Miata and she'll take Mav. If it's going to rain I'd take Mav and she'd take Odyssey. (I drive 20 miles, she drives about 6.)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 03, 2023, 03:09:27 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 03, 2023, 12:18:32 PM
How do you think the noise maker is connected? CAN bus?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
I would assume LIN, which is really just another form off CANbus.

The "bypass" ($40) is just a resistor and loopback in a wire you plug into the speaker wire, so I assume it's analog there.

People are hacking this truck like crazy- I read of people spending $600 in parts to add adaptive cruise control and lane centering (only to certain trims that already have lane departure warning). Another hack to add cruise control with just a different steering wheel.

Both those hacks and many others involve "FORSCAN" software to plug into the vehicle computer and has very very granular configurations available.
https://forscan.org/howto.html  (does it come with free Russian spyware?)

So the sounds CAN be disabled that way. I'll look at either an inline switch to turn it on/off (and deal with warnings unless I put right resistor in?) or stuffing the speaker with foam?  Or should I just punch a bunch of holes in or remove the cone? LOL

https://youtu.be/H_jZJxMrNrY?t=14
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 03, 2023, 03:11:14 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 03, 2023, 08:25:49 AM
I don't think its illegal to cut it out.

You forget all the nanny laws passed the last few years. I'm sure it's only Federal law to remove safety devices from cars, so really no one is going to check?
(Unless one has nazi safety inspections)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 03, 2023, 03:16:05 PM
BTW first commute today got 42mpg... mixed highway/ street driving.

I'm kinda already used to it- besides the android auto, couple of nice features (lane warnings), it just drives like a vehicle. Very capable, nothing flashy, feels better planted than Odyssey and doesn't feel like a giant hog of the road.

We'll get the bedliner sprayed in Wednesday so we can do truckey things- don't want to scratch it up before that.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 05, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
42mpg on a truck is absolutely amazing! No wonder the lines for the Maverick are so long.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 05:49:07 PM
Ready to do trucky things!

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1q7nL3x/PXL-20230405-222735894-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1q7nL3x)


(https://i.postimg.cc/LYGzC4dH/PXL-20230405-225809478.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYGzC4dH)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 05, 2023, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 05:49:07 PM
Ready to do trucky things!

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1q7nL3x/PXL-20230405-222735894-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1q7nL3x)


(https://i.postimg.cc/LYGzC4dH/PXL-20230405-225809478.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYGzC4dH)

Certainly a nice thing being able to toss it into the bed of a truck instead of, say, the cargo area of the Odyssey.......no carpets to get all dirty and such. :rockon:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 05, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
42mpg on a truck is absolutely amazing! No wonder the lines for the Maverick are so long.

I'm up to 43. Some people are getting 600 miles on the 13gal tank.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 06:01:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 05, 2023, 05:52:22 PM
Certainly a nice thing being able to toss it into the bed of a truck instead of, say, the cargo area of the Odyssey.......no carpets to get all dirty and such. :rockon:

Definitely! That's my 29er, an extra bike would be tricky, people use those tailgate mats. I laughed when I saw pickups with bike racks on the hitch, but I get it now, I might want to do that too.

ALSO, the bed is lower than most trucks, people can reach over and put things in/ take out without all the work.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 05, 2023, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 06:01:28 PM
Definitely! That's my 29er, an extra bike would be tricky, people use those tailgate mats. I laughed when I saw pickups with bike racks on the hitch, but I get it now, I might want to do that too.

ALSO, the bed is lower than most trucks, people can reach over and put things in/ take out without all the work.

Yeah, depends on the use case.  A hitch bike rack is great if you also want to use the bed space for cargo/coolers/etc. if you have multiple people, bikes, and gear, especially if you're on a multi-day trip or something.

Tailgate mats are a good middleground if it's just one or two bikes and you can use the back seat for gear and such and still have some bed space for odds and ends that are fine outside for a trip to the trail (tire pump, backpack, whatever).
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 05, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
Half the trucks around here drive around with tail gate mats
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 05, 2023, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 05, 2023, 06:10:38 PM
Half the trucks around here drive around with tail gate mats

They are easier/quicker than hitch racks.  And once the bikes are off, you can still use your tailgate, so you can just leave the matt on all the time and still use your bed normally.  Great for general/daily/short-haul use.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 05, 2023, 06:32:00 PM
Yeah it's too bad my list of stuff I want to get is growing faster than the checking account refills  :thumbsup:

-hitch
-tailgate mat
-power stuff for the bed (a connector with bare wire ends comes with the truck, there is 12V already wired to the rear, even if you don't purchase the optional inverter/ power outlets)
-subwoofer
-Kia center mirror (it's like $12 and takes a few minutes to install, adds homelink, autodim, compass)
-business logos on rear window :lol:
-side turn signal lights (Ford cheaped out on that, people have 3d printed inserts that go into the trim pieces by the front door and added an LED)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SnJBBV3D/side-light.png) (https://postimg.cc/SnJBBV3D)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on April 06, 2023, 07:59:19 AM
Yeah, small trucks are really handy.  I can't wait for an EV to come out that's somewhere between Maverick and Tacoma in size.  That would be perfect.  Like a mini Rivian would be great.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 06, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
LOL I'm a bit surprised how much smaller it ends up being compared to Odyssey. easier to load this stuff (instead of crawling inside) but I can usually fit it all behind the rear seats of Odyssey.
(https://i.postimg.cc/34hpcTCm/PXL-20230406-191540462.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34hpcTCm)

(https://i.postimg.cc/N2fXQkn0/PXL-20230406-191550200-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2fXQkn0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNtYbdqk/PXL-20230406-191601010-MP.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNtYbdqk)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 07, 2023, 03:19:17 PM
So Mav is pretty camouflaged- hides well with all the other boring grey vehicles. I was thinking maybe plastidip the antenna an orange or something?

Found this as I was googling "Just a quick tip, if you ever want to know if a material has an effect on RF, put a sample in the microwave oven. If it gets hot, then your answer is yes."

:lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 07, 2023, 06:45:38 PM
Mav has a whip antenna for radio?  Can replace it with a stubby at a slight detriment to reception.

But any paint that doesn't contain metal shouldn't impact reception if that's the route you wanna take.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 07, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 07, 2023, 03:19:17 PM
So Mav is pretty camouflaged- hides well with all the other boring grey vehicles. I was thinking maybe plastidip the antenna an orange or something?

Found this as I was googling "Just a quick tip, if you ever want to know if a material has an effect on RF, put a sample in the microwave oven. If it gets hot, then your answer is yes."

:lol:

The only reasonable answers are:

1:Paint/wrap it like Tom Cruise's helmet and/or F14 from Top Gun

2: Wrap it with the head of James Garner from Maverick (1957)

3: Replicate one of the trim/stripe packages from the 1970-1975 Maverick Grabber.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on April 07, 2023, 06:58:51 PM
Turn it into a mural celebrating the life and times of John McCain (but skip the POW camp portion)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 07, 2023, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 07, 2023, 06:45:38 PM
Mav has a whip antenna for radio?  Can replace it with a stubby at a slight detriment to reception.

But any paint that doesn't contain metal shouldn't impact reception if that's the route you wanna take.

It's a shark fin + stubby, in a spot that is visible in parking lots.

https://postimg.cc/v1q7nL3x

I'm thinking https://www.amazon.com/Plasti-Dip-Performix-11218-Fluid_Ounces/dp/B008PO6368/?th=1

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 07, 2023, 08:10:09 PM
Jack in the box antenna ball
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2023, 05:06:56 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 07, 2023, 08:10:09 PM
Jack in the box antenna ball

+1 :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 08, 2023, 06:05:32 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 07, 2023, 08:10:09 PM
Jack in the box antenna ball

I literally read last night people have been stealing those. Plus those restaurants don't exist out here.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 08, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
It was raining so not a great picture, took it from inside a store. Mini truck next to "full size" truck...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kk0KBy1t/PXL-20230408-144742506.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kk0KBy1t)
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 08, 2023, 07:15:10 PM
We took possession of Mav with 11 miles last Saturday.
Today Mav has 358 miles with 207 miles left in the tank supposedly.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 08, 2023, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 08, 2023, 07:15:10 PM
We took possession of Mav with 11 miles last Saturday.
Today Mav has 358 miles with 207 miles left in the tank supposedly.

Hell yeah. I can only get a reliable 250 miles in the Taco. 275 if it's all highway. lol
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 08, 2023, 07:41:19 PM
Hell yeah. I can only get a reliable 250 miles in the Taco. 275 if it's all highway. lol

TUNDRA just hit 214 miles on its first fillup. Gauge is at 1/8. :pee:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 08, 2023, 11:58:03 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 08, 2023, 07:45:02 PM
TUNDRA just hit 214 miles on its first fillup. Gauge is at 1/8. :pee:

Taco's tank is 21(and change) gallons. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 09, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
Mav is 13.8 gallons. :thumbsup:

sidenote: we enjoy it as a rainy weather vehicle. Super rain yesterday/ last night, it's high up that puddles in the road aren't scary, but perfect height to get in and out without issues. 8in of clearance.

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 16, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
First fill-up. 13.1 gallons for 40mpg.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9JwhXZc/PXL-20230415-190920351.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9JwhXZc)

The bed has slots to insert planks to make dividers. So I did my first truckey thing for the benefit of the truck. That's a 12ft long board. 🤠 I'll cut a piece to go vertically right behind the wheel well, so groceries or whatever won't slide as much. At Costco yesterday I put the cases of heavy stuff in the bed and regular food in the back seat.

(https://i.postimg.cc/2bbhpxqG/PXL-20230415-221130834.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bbhpxqG)

Rope was so it didn't slide side to side..
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 16, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
I currently have a bag of dog poop in the bed of my truck. Truck stuff. :muffin:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 04:10:33 PM
Please tie down things (properly, not with a slack rope) when the majority of it is hanging outside the bed. Think about how seesaws work. That's really dangerous.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 17, 2023, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 04:10:33 PM
Please tie down things (properly, not with a slack rope) when the majority of it is hanging outside the bed. Think about how seesaws work. That's really dangerous.

I own like 20+ ratchet straps, and I will use five of them on a single board. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 17, 2023, 04:24:15 PM
I own like 20+ ratchet straps, and I will use five of them on a single board. :lol:

I had to bite my lip real hard once when my dad was picking up his new wood chipper and asked me for help loading it at the store and unloading it at their house...all he had was rope to secure it in his Silverado. Lucky for him I had ratchet straps in my truck.

I bought him a set of the easy automatic-winding straps shortly after.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 17, 2023, 05:41:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 04:10:33 PM
Please tie down things (properly, not with a slack rope) when the majority of it is hanging outside the bed. Think about how seesaws work. That's really dangerous.

Point taken!
I was really nervous- but the board didn't lift at all when I pushed down on the rear end fairly hard.. I still drove really really carefully.

There are tie down hooks in the front of the bed as well as up high inside all four corners. Would a ratchet strap or tight rope over top of the front end of the board tied down to the bed be good?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 17, 2023, 05:41:28 PM
Point taken!
I was really nervous- but the board didn't lift at all when I pushed down on the rear end fairly hard.. I still drove really really carefully.

There are tie down hooks in the front of the bed as well as up high inside all four corners. Would a ratchet strap or tight rope over top of the front end of the board tied down to the bed be good?

Might not move much in the parking lot...but imagine you need to make an evasive maneuver somewhere.  Or it just wiggles loose...disaster. :lol:

Tie downs on the bed floor are ideal for loads like that to put solid downward pressure on them.  Ideally close to the tailgate end since that's where the fulcrum of the board is so that's where you want the friction focused to keep it from moving.  If that had been me , I'd have left the tailgate fully up and used the rear high corner tie points to put downward pressure on it onto the tailgate.  Even better if it had tiedowns on the floor of the bed at the tailgate end.

Rope is never good for tying things town.  Ratchet straps. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 17, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 19, 2023, 12:06:53 PM
I find it funny I can get a 10 foot board in our SUV or a 12' board with only 2' hanging out
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 19, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 17, 2023, 06:16:44 PM
Might not move much in the parking lot...but imagine you need to make an evasive maneuver somewhere.  Or it just wiggles loose...disaster. :lol:

Tie downs on the bed floor are ideal for loads like that to put solid downward pressure on them.  Ideally close to the tailgate end since that's where the fulcrum of the board is so that's where you want the friction focused to keep it from moving.  If that had been me , I'd have left the tailgate fully up and used the rear high corner tie points to put downward pressure on it onto the tailgate.  Even better if it had tiedowns on the floor of the bed at the tailgate end.

Rope is never good for tying things town.  Ratchet straps. 

I can tie shit down with ropes better than most people can ratchet strap.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on April 19, 2023, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 19, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
I can tie shit down with ropes better than most people can ratchet strap.

I like to put an alpine butterfly in the rope and then feed the end through the loop to tighten it down.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 19, 2023, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2023, 12:06:53 PM
I find it funny I can get a 10 foot board in our SUV or a 12' board with only 2' hanging out

Same with Odyssey, but truck is more truckier
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on April 19, 2023, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 19, 2023, 05:30:13 PM
Same with Odyssey, but truck is more truckier

I miss trucks that could fit an ATV or two in the bed
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 20, 2023, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2023, 07:55:42 PMI miss trucks that could fit an ATV or two in the bed

One fits in Maverick. (almost hanging off the tailgate, and you have to be careful to get it over the truck wheel wells  :wtf: )
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 24, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
Ordered my first mod- the only windshield mirror on any trim is an old school manual dim one.

A $12 Kia mirror fits on the same bracket and has home link, auto dim and compass built in. :lol:
I'll have to decide whether to hack the light wire for power, run a wire from fuse box, or build small adapter to tap power from the fancy self-driving camera wire...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 24, 2023, 08:01:49 PM
And since the idiot dealership didn't add the trailer hitch and 'copilot 360 advanced' options, it's $600 in parts to add a radar to the front, wiring, and reprogram wor to enable the lane self-centering option (with adaptive cruise). For now it just has regular cruise and vibrates the steering wheel when we cross a lane marking. Funny the camera is already installed...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SJ_GTI on April 25, 2023, 06:03:47 AM
Auto dimming mirrors are nice. That is the one feature I really miss when driving my Z3.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 25, 2023, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on April 25, 2023, 06:03:47 AMAuto dimming mirrors are nice. That is the one feature I really miss when driving my Z3.

I might have to install one in Miata after I do Maverick. $25 shipped is crazy amazing. Of course the Kia dealer parts dept. that I ordered from said "no returns" after they asked for VIN and I said it's going on a Ford. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 26, 2023, 05:04:40 PM
Averaging 43mph on VERY hilly terrain. My driving interstate to the base knocks it down but then the 25mph flat driving I'm able to get it back up. Wife is rocking the hills too! She's driven it more days than me.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 30, 2023, 07:53:30 PM
First MOD done!

All 3 trims of Maverick come with a bare-bones no-frills manual dim windshield rearview mirror.

People have discovered that Kia sells a $12 mirror that has homelink, compass, auto-dim, which fits onto the same exact mounting bracket as Ford mirrors. It was $26 with shipping, and the dealer that shipped it wanted to verify VIN to make sure it fits. I told them it was for a Ford, they said, "ok but no returns.".

I tapped into the lights- making sure I got the wire that is only on with power. I could have wired the homelink wire to the "always on" power but figured better people can't open the garage if the truck isn't on. Funny enough wires are
-ground
-9v when truck is on (this is what I used)
-two always-on 12v
-and one wire which is 0v until the truck is turned off then goes to 12v and stays until the lights all timeout and goes back to 0.

Looks like the mirror came stock, there is no branding on it, it's the same width/height as original, all the wiring is hidden up behind the camera and sunglass holder/light consoles. Very worth the time and money! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 02, 2023, 07:41:58 PM
BTW 2024 Maverick ordering is rumored to start July 17th.

last August they stopped taking orders for hybrids after 7 days and 10days for the terbow.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 12:49:14 PM
The rope was just in case. The tailgate cables attach to a different point so it's partially up, and the wood is resting on the wheel wells, too.
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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on May 06, 2023, 12:55:38 PM
So, as long as you don't go over 30mph it should be okay.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on May 06, 2023, 12:55:38 PMSo, as long as you don't go over 30mph it should be okay.

42mph... :lol:

Had our first oopsie this week- wife took part of the 108ft pine a guy felled and cut into 2ft logs to the dropoff center Monday.

She didn't clean the bed out and drove it all week, I took it to work Friday. Her drive is max 40mph, mine is interstate and I saw a few pieces of bark fly out... :mask:  They were really small pieces but still freaked me out.

We need a tonneau cover and to keep it clean back there! 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 07:27:26 PM
And although my rope wasn't super tight, the plywood hadn't shifted at all.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SVT_Power on May 07, 2023, 12:00:27 AM
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2023, 12:06:53 PMI find it funny I can get a 10 foot board in our SUV or a 12' board with only 2' hanging out

I've had a few instances of thinking back to how much smaller of a vehicle the Sorento was to my Ram and how much I stuffed into the Sorento back in the day.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 10, 2023, 08:18:17 PM
Appointment at church lol. First buddy Park.IMG_20230510_200015~2.jpg
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on May 10, 2023, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 10, 2023, 08:18:17 PMAppointment at church lol. First buddy Park.IMG_20230510_200015~2.jpg

A special moment. Did you bond with the owner?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 10, 2023, 08:34:51 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 10, 2023, 08:31:37 PMA special moment. Did you bond with the owner?

They were gone when we came back out. Hopefully they enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 03:43:55 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 12:49:14 PMThe rope was just in case. The tailgate cables attach to a different point so it's partially up, and the wood is resting on the wheel wells, too.
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Whatever you tie something down with should never be the "just in case," because it's not going to hold in that case. It should be the "if I have to emergency stop or swerve a lane at 80mph, that thing isn't moving."

I thought we went over this before.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 11, 2023, 08:01:26 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 03:43:55 AMWhatever you tie something down with should never be the "just in case," because it's not going to hold in that case. It should be the "if I have to emergency stop or swerve a lane at 80mph, that thing isn't moving."

I thought we went over this before.

Yeah man.

I had a pizza box fly out of my bed on the way to the dump. Should've tied it down. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 11, 2023, 09:35:34 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 11, 2023, 03:43:55 AMWhatever you tie something down with should never be the "just in case," because it's not going to hold in that case. It should be the "if I have to emergency stop or swerve a lane at 80mph, that thing isn't moving."

I thought we went over this before.

Um, I'm not going 80mph, just 45mph. The wood literally wasn't moving on it's own anyway but if I had an emergency brake or bump the rope was tied tight enough under to an attachmeent point passenger side besides the one you can see that it would have stayed put.

And the one you CAN see was at the front of the bed, so it literally would have held the entire length down too. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2023, 06:11:26 AM
You could buy half a dozen ratchet straps for the price of one of those boards. Consider it the next time you're at the hardware store tying down giant kites of plywood with a tiny rope.


https://youtu.be/1tPhDZtkVqg
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 12, 2023, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 12, 2023, 06:11:26 AMYou could buy half a dozen ratchet straps for the price of one of those boards. Consider it the next time you're at the hardware store tying down giant kites of plywood with a tiny rope.


https://youtu.be/1tPhDZtkVqg

Yup yup.

And they only replayed the clip 6 times in 1minute :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 28, 2023, 01:58:57 PM
Filled up for the 3rd time yesterday, since April 1. 1500+miles. Average 41+mpg each tank.   :mrcool:

Went in to dealership to try to sort out the 2022/2023 rebate (price went up) and running into combination of me should have brought it up at sale, plus dealer incompetence (didn't see the option), and just stupid Ford/ dealer shenanigans.  :rage:   I'll have to resume that battle Tuesday.

Anyway, our salesman bought a Bronco sport same time, talked with him about fill-ups, he said he fills up 3 times a week practically.  :confused:

Oh also ordered a tonneau cover. It's usually $389 plus tax. we used our "ford points" from truck purchase which were worth $210. LOLOLOL. But it was exactly half the purchase+taxes.  Hope to get it installed by Saturday when we go on our first big road trip up I-95 to MD. (daughter graduation)

Really really loving the size and utility of this vehicle!!! Lariat trim has auto-down/up on all 4 driver window switches, so it's nice when weather is decent to easily drop all the windows (all the way into the doors!) and get some air without buffeting or a ton of noise. Had to tuck a towel between the rear middle seatbelt and the seat though- it flaps against the seat at about 35mph like CRAZY and buckling it in only made it worse.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 10, 2023, 01:01:47 PM
Got a tonneau cover installed. It's a cheap ($400 minus the "Ford points" we got buying the vehicle, $200 worth LOL) roll-up.

I like it because it rolls up completely out of the way. Plus we can throw stuff in there without worrying about it blowing out.

Bonus: license plates! The window is the kitchen lol.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on June 12, 2023, 07:26:19 AM
...you have a window in your kitchen into your garage?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 12, 2023, 07:50:50 AM
Lower it

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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 13, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 12, 2023, 07:50:50 AMLower it

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Gross. Then it couldn't serve it's purpose.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 13, 2023, 05:56:12 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 13, 2023, 02:46:51 AMGross. Then it couldn't serve it's purpose.

Oh, so lift kit!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 13, 2023, 06:37:19 AM
Quote from: MrH on June 12, 2023, 07:26:19 AM...you have a window in your kitchen into your garage?

Yeah, it's weird. There's also a window to the front door just to the left of this picture. Stove and fridge are opposite the sink.

Please excuse the mess, it always looks like this.... :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 13, 2023, 07:12:59 AM
Was the garage added later?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 13, 2023, 08:23:57 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 13, 2023, 07:12:59 AMWas the garage added later?

Could have been but I don't think so?

My guess is a cabinet above the sink would block access. It's weird to have a wall in front there, so why not window? It actually lets in a lot of light because the garage has lots of windows.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on June 13, 2023, 08:31:51 AM
A window is better than a blank wall. That's how the kitchen sink is in my apartment...cabinets on either side and blank wall in the middle over the sink with a smaller overhead cabinet. If there was a window it would just be a window into my bedroom. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 13, 2023, 08:56:03 AM
I'm going to build a small lean-to addition on the back of my house. Maybe with big sliding barn doors. It will cover a kitchen window, but also let me get rid of the crappy bulkhead to the basement (the only access to the laundry).
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 13, 2023, 10:55:34 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 13, 2023, 08:31:51 AMA window is better than a blank wall. That's how the kitchen sink is in my apartment...cabinets on either side and blank wall in the middle over the sink with a smaller overhead cabinet. If there was a window it would just be a window into my bedroom. :lol:

Lol
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 13, 2023, 11:26:21 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 13, 2023, 08:31:51 AMA window is better than a blank wall. That's how the kitchen sink is in my apartment...cabinets on either side and blank wall in the middle over the sink with a smaller overhead cabinet. If there was a window it would just be a window into my bedroom. :lol:

kinky
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on June 14, 2023, 07:45:09 AM
Yeah, I'm guessing the garage is an addition.  I can't imagine they would have designed it like that from the start?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 14, 2023, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: MrH on June 14, 2023, 07:45:09 AMYeah, I'm guessing the garage is an addition.  I can't imagine they would have designed it like that from the start?

Most of the houses in this neighborhood have garages, but it was a 1970s house, not sure how common 2car garage was then. It sticks out a little further than the master bedroom "wing", but that wing seems original but would have been a funny looking shape if there was no garage.

AND it seems this house is built of sturdier drywall than I've been used to- you don't have to use anchors for lighter things which would pull out of the more modern thin drywall. The walls and ceiling of the garage are made of the same stuff.

It's raining hard right now and it's been awhile since I checked the attic for leaks so I went up- the frame, roof, and insulation all looks the same and the roofline flows with the rest of the house. It doesn't at all look like the garage was added after the fact.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 15, 2023, 09:30:53 AM
Yeah, not the typical layout for adding the garage later.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 15, 2023, 04:10:19 PM
OH also we were talking with the neighbors about houses this week, they talked about replacing their garage door, how heavy the old one was- that ours is probably original because it's also solid wood and heavy.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 23, 2023, 01:42:27 PM
Filled up again. :lol:

2000 miles on the odometer, 4 fillups, 13.8 gallon tank. Computer likes to say 42 but I think we're really at 41mpg.

Did I ever tell y'all hybrid has a dash button you have to hold for it to open the door. There's not gas cap, just two flaps (one you can see, another down the tube a bit) you have to insert the pump up high to open them then let nozzle come down and rest for filling.

Truck comes with a 'special funnel' if you ever need to use a fuel can. It's to push the flaps open.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on June 25, 2023, 07:27:06 PM
Those cap-less fillers have been a thing for well over a decade.  Most vehicles have them now.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: r0tor on June 26, 2023, 06:24:31 AM
I remember the capless thing in our old Fockus
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on June 26, 2023, 06:44:50 AM
In my '01 Escape as well.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on June 26, 2023, 09:05:28 AM
Yeah I think Ford is big into those, more than any other maker
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: MrH on June 26, 2023, 09:20:00 AM
Ford has had it for ages.  Our RDX does too.

BRZ does not sadly.  It's a nice feature.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2023, 09:26:21 AM
I hate it. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 26, 2023, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2023, 09:26:21 AMI hate it. :lol:

Why?

It's weird but I'm ok with it- less fuss. Although it's probably more "complicated" than a cap, which means stupid repair money if something wears/ breaks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on June 26, 2023, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 26, 2023, 04:47:25 PMWhy?

It's weird but I'm ok with it- less fuss. Although it's probably more "complicated" than a cap, which means stupid repair money if something wears/ breaks.

Got to have a special funnel. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: FoMoJo on June 26, 2023, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on June 26, 2023, 04:47:25 PMWhy?

It's weird but I'm ok with it- less fuss. Although it's probably more "complicated" than a cap, which means stupid repair money if something wears/ breaks.
Worked fine on my Escape for 15+ years.  I now find having to deal with a gas cap a bit of an annoyance. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 27, 2023, 04:33:43 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 26, 2023, 05:45:57 PMWorked fine on my Escape for 15+ years.  I now find having to deal with a gas cap a bit of an annoyance. 

Glad to hear it wasn't a hassle.

Wife and I are both getting spoiled lol. I could never go back to manual driver seat or mirrors.

The other day she texted me the van door lock switch was broken- but turns out putting it into park and removing the key fixed it. :lol: Don't have to do either with Mav, just push the power button and get it with the key still in your pocket or purse.

I do enjoy not messing with the gas cap but I've only filled Mav 3 times since April, she's filled once.

I also love love love locking the keys inside so I can run or bike without them, then use keypad to get back in.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on June 28, 2023, 12:59:32 AM
There's a reason the "lock door switch" was "broken" on the van...it's because the vehicle wasn't in park and the key wasn't "off."  Has nothing to do with modern tech on the Maverick. :wtf:


Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on June 28, 2023, 07:13:27 AM
Quote from: giant_mtb on June 28, 2023, 12:59:32 AMThere's a reason the "lock door switch" was "broken" on the van...it's because the vehicle wasn't in park and the key wasn't "off."  Has nothing to do with modern tech on the Maverick. :wtf:

We know, it was hilarious.
The "error" is that the Mav is so much easier that it's easy to forget how the older technology works.

Like people forgetting to put on parking brake in a manual transmission car because they don't do that in Auto transmission cars.....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on July 01, 2023, 09:54:43 AM
Mav lowered on 19" Escape wheels

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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 01, 2023, 09:54:43 AMMav lowered on 19" Escape wheels

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now it can't truck. Gross.

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 06:30:39 PM
So we got a couple kayaks off FB a few weeks back- $450 for two (usually $350ish for one). Guy in a nice neighborhood decided it was tough having conversation with wife so they got a dual kayak. Fair enough!

Tailgate up and lots of rope they were still prone to slide to one side and hange over the curb.... On maverick truck club someone built a wooden frame and put kayak roof mounts on it and put in the bed.

Well Dick's had roof mounts 50% off yesterday, their math is off though because the $179.99 came out to $74.99 at the register. Whatevs!!!  Bought a bit of wood and got things started. Still need to finish mounting everything then paint the wood.

We'll tie the boats to the floor and side cargo cleats. Should be WAAAAY easier than lifting kayaks up higher. Boats are 10ft and bed with tailgate down is only 6.5ft but with red flags and boats centered in the bed (on edge), there should still be great tail light visibility. 

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on July 04, 2023, 07:37:36 PM
Dude knock it off with the flimsy ropes and buy some ratchet straps.  You wouldn't need $75 mounts and wood if you'd just buy some $25 ratchet straps that would snug them down properly.  Fun fact, you can use those ratchet straps for everything else, too, and they take up virtually zero space! 

This is the stupidest saga I've ever seen...just buy ratchet straps.  Not everything needs some fancy/expensive solution.  Ratchet straps are your solution. 

You continue to put yourselves and others in danger by thinking that some rope barely holding onto a sloppy/sliding load is fine.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 08:49:09 PM
Yes, the kayak kit came with straps, and I have a couple other ones too.

I've never been on the road with a load that is dangerous, but thanks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 08:50:04 PM
The point of this is to protect the boats and truck- best to have them all on good mounting points. And strapped down.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 07, 2023, 08:23:06 PM
So the 2022 hybrid Maverick started at $19.9k (plus $16xx.xx destination fee), with the turbo being another $1.5k or so.

Ordering for 2024 Maverick opens July 17th with 2023 orders which haven't been built yet getting priority and a rebate to match 2023 price. If the '23 gets built they'll cancel the '24.

News is 2024 turbo will start at $24k, hybrid is an extra $1.5k; less confusing feature options, but to get many of them have to spring for Lariat.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 22, 2023, 01:29:16 PM
Ok so here's the frame without boats. The straps hold it firm against the fender wells, and keep it from sliding backwards. They're tied in the back just to take up slack so they're not flapping around.

Boats will be strapped onto carriers. They stick out a few feet past tailgate but upright. You can still see both taillights at a reasonable distance behind.

Front end of boats are below the top of the bed. And should be much easier to load and unload than up over the tailgate.

Only bummer is the mounts are too tall so I'll need to fold them down to roll the tonneau cover over the assembly after we unload boats...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 22, 2023, 01:32:29 PM
I have U-Haul brake/turn lights from towing Scrappy. I need to get a hitch and hitch lights plug, could mount lights to a board over the back tip of boats....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 03, 2023, 06:46:54 PM
So satisfying to be up a little higher (8in clearance) when the GA/SC monsoons get going. Don't worry about most road puddles like I would in Scrappy...

Yet Mav is also the PERFECT step-in height, we literally don't have to stretch up or down to get in or out!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on August 04, 2023, 08:19:29 AM
And if the puddle is big enough, I've had cars in front of me splash the water high enough to hit my Miata's windshield. So gross. Happened last winter with a big puddle of water and slush. A car managed to go through the puddle and kick up multiple buckets worth of water right onto my car. It was like a tidal wave.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 05, 2023, 04:57:10 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 04, 2023, 08:19:29 AMAnd if the puddle is big enough, I've had cars in front of me splash the water high enough to hit my Miata's windshield. So gross. Happened last winter with a big puddle of water and slush. A car managed to go through the puddle and kick up multiple buckets worth of water right onto my car. It was like a tidal wave.

Eek!

Were fortunate to have three vehicles,

I don't drive Scrappy when the weather looks bad. Unless it's really really hot out, it's always top down! Except to park (ward off bird poop, shade the seat, plus the rare weird cloud out of nowhere events).
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on August 19, 2023, 07:14:54 PM
Today, Mav:
-hauled an entire bed of cut up branches from a giant branch which fell on the driveway (had to use tarp and ropes)
-got me to one of the best Mtn Biking trails in the Southeast (11.5 miles from home)
-fetched four 4x4x8ft posts to replace fenceposts that rotted
-also fetched 4x bags of 50lb concrete for fenceposts. Got part of the fence down and two posts dug out. Will resume Monday....

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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2023, 08:16:53 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 08:49:09 PMI've never been on the road with a load that is dangerous, but thanks.

Yes, you have.

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 16, 2023, 06:38:25 PM(https://i.postimg.cc/2bbhpxqG/PXL-20230415-221130834.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bbhpxqG)

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 12:49:14 PMThe rope was just in case.
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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on August 23, 2023, 08:19:06 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 19, 2023, 07:14:54 PMToday, Mav:
-hauled an entire bed of cut up branches from a giant branch which fell on the driveway (had to use tarp and ropes)
-got me to one of the best Mtn Biking trails in the Southeast (11.5 miles from home)
-fetched four 4x4x8ft posts to replace fenceposts that rotted
-also fetched 4x bags of 50lb concrete for fenceposts. Got part of the fence down and two posts dug out. Will resume Monday....

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You're gettin' the hang of it now. :rockon:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on September 30, 2023, 11:06:56 AM
I think that's a handsome kayak carrier! 10 miles to a small lake, we got 49mpg on the way there, 47 on the way back.

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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 06, 2023, 04:49:13 PM
That too many miles, and not enough gallons. :devil:

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on October 06, 2023, 05:03:24 PM
That's impressive fuel mileage.  I do think that the Maverick is the perfect "truck" for what most people would use a truck for.  Great that that option exists on the market now.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 06, 2023, 05:54:26 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 06, 2023, 05:03:24 PMThat's impressive fuel mileage.  I do think that the Maverick is the perfect "truck" for what most people would use a truck for.  Great that that option exists on the market now.

10000000000%. Plus you can get the Ecoboost which is still quite a bit better than most other trucks fuel-wise. AWD and/or off-road poseur editions are available.

I'm seeing more of them now. I think Ford is over the "can't get enough computer chips so stick them in the expensive stuff" hump.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 06, 2023, 05:56:24 PM
Rotated the tires today- 4k miles. It won't get an oil change until like 10k miles LOL.

I was pleasantly surprised that I could get all the lugnuts lose with just a breaker bar. Which means they weren't messed with at the dealer and were still factory "proper" torqued, right?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on October 06, 2023, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 06, 2023, 05:54:26 PM10000000000%. Plus you can get the Ecoboost which is still quite a bit better than most other trucks fuel-wise. AWD and/or off-road poseur editions are available.

I'm seeing more of them now. I think Ford is over the "can't get enough computer chips so stick them in the expensive stuff" hump.

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot more now, too.  They were few and far between before, but now I'm seeing more Mavs than Hyundai Santa Cruz's, which is basically its only direct competitor in the crossover-with-a-truckbed market.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 07, 2023, 07:10:35 PM
LOL
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a42721100/2023-ford-maverick-tremor-almost-great-rally-car/

You can't fully turn off the traction control. The Mav forum has people trying via software tweakage.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on October 07, 2023, 08:19:58 PM
Pull the ABS fuse. That's it.

EDIT: Will it light up all your warning lights and shit? Yeah. But none of those systems can operate without ABS.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: giant_mtb on October 07, 2023, 08:33:23 PM
Welcome to the truck world where slippery/winter driving with ABS absolutely sucks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Morris Minor on October 08, 2023, 06:45:38 AM
Looks great Will. Mavs are quite rare here, so I do a mental check mark when I do see one. One of two people here have Santa Cruzes (whose fronts are BMW-ugly IMO) but Tacomas are the truck of choice if you don't want to join the half-ton gang. Long way of saying Ford has that niche almost to itself.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 09, 2023, 06:00:56 AM
Quote from: Morris Minor on October 08, 2023, 06:45:38 AMLooks great Will. Mavs are quite rare here, so I do a mental check mark when I do see one. One of two people here have Santa Cruzes (whose fronts are BMW-ugly IMO) but Tacomas are the truck of choice if you don't want to join the half-ton gang. Long way of saying Ford has that niche almost to itself.

Thanks, totally agree. It's sad Ford isn't building more of them.

Apparently the Maverick cut into Ranger sales, so they want to avoid that. But they don't make any cheap cars anymore! Maybe they just build enough Mavericks to keep fleet fuel economy on target?

Seems to me the Maverick could be a gateway car- get people hooked earlier in life then still them more expensive stuff later?
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Madman on October 11, 2023, 09:27:26 PM

Ford doesn't want to build Mavericks for the same reason they don't want to build any Fiestas and Focuses anymore; they don't make any money selling them.

Ford makes just enough Mavericks to use them as "Sucker Bait."  It's the classic bait-and-switch tactic.  They lure buyers in the door, thinking they can buy a truck for $25,000 only for them to drive out that same door, three hours later, in an F-150 at more than twice the price with a 96-month payment book in the glovebox.


Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: GoCougs on October 11, 2023, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Madman on October 11, 2023, 09:27:26 PMFord doesn't want to build Mavericks for the same reason they don't want to build any Fiestas and Focuses anymore; they don't make any money selling them.

Ford makes just enough Mavericks to use them as "Sucker Bait."  It's the classic bait-and-switch tactic.  They lure buyers in the door, thinking they can buy a truck for $25,000 only for them to drive out that same door, three hours later, in an F-150 at more than twice the price with a 96-month payment book in the glovebox.




No.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: veeman on October 12, 2023, 10:25:00 AM
Ford as usual is pulling a Ford and has significantly raised the price of the Maverick.

When it first came just a few years ago the base model was a stripper FWD hybrid and cost was $21490.

In 2024 the base model is no longer a hybrid.  The hybrid is a $1500 upcharge and stripper FWD hybrid is now $24900. I still think it's a great deal for the stripper model.  Optioned to the max it's a $39945 small pickup.

I understand they need to make money on it. 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Laconian on October 12, 2023, 12:07:34 PM
Quote from: veeman on October 12, 2023, 10:25:00 AMFord as usual is pulling a Ford and has significantly raised the price of the Maverick.

When it first came just a few years ago the base model was a stripper FWD hybrid and cost was $21490.

In 2024 the base model is no longer a hybrid.  The hybrid is a $1500 upcharge and stripper FWD hybrid is now $24900. I still think it's a great deal for the stripper model.  Optioned to the max it's a $39945 small pickup.

I understand they need to make money on it. 

My money is on them not wanting to cannibalize the sales of their other higher profit margin trucks.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 12, 2023, 02:32:13 PM
It's wild how they didn't anticipate the demand of the hybrid. SOOOOOO many people would sell the ones they already bought for an AWD hybrid...

Or even a 100% electric the same size. Which I don't know if that would work because it would need some serious redesign. The battery in the current hybrid is only 1.1KWh....
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 12, 2023, 02:33:27 PM
We count ourselves wildly fortunate that we got an 85% loaded Hybrid Lariat for the price we did. $27,865.  :ohyeah:   :huh:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 12, 2023, 02:35:12 PM
And we love it enough to want another- but cheapest "decent" used ones I found on Carmax, Carvana, and Ebay today are $28k and up for base model 2022 trucks with MILES on them. Which didn't have cruise control from the factory. :mask:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 13, 2023, 06:22:57 AM
HOW BIG do trucks need to be, anyway?

I was in Mav behind a new F150 and the top of the tailgate was above my eyeline. Mav is 8in clearance and you sit fairly upright- just like other trucks.

F150 may be lifted- they had step bars but still stock tires. But it may not have been? :huh:

Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: SJ_GTI on October 13, 2023, 07:39:41 AM
I'm seeing them around here and there now, they do look good. Basically just a small truck, but the proportions work.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on October 13, 2023, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 13, 2023, 06:22:57 AMHOW BIG do trucks need to be, anyway?

I was in Mav behind a new F150 and the top of the tailgate was above my eyeline. Mav is 8in clearance and you sit fairly upright- just like other trucks.

F150 may be lifted- they had step bars but still stock tires. But it may not have been? :huh:



How big?


T U N D R A


Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on October 13, 2023, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 13, 2023, 09:18:29 AMHow big?


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:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 12, 2023, 01:07:03 PM
Rolled 5k miles today. Still LOVE IT. I was passed by a Maverick in the Maverick yesterday.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on November 13, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 12, 2023, 01:07:03 PMRolled 5k miles today. Still LOVE IT. I was passed by a Maverick in the Maverick yesterday.

I'm 5K miles into the TUNDRA. That's only 312 gallons of gas. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 14, 2023, 03:44:05 AM
Lol. We're at maybe 130??...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 15, 2023, 12:50:30 PM
:lol:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-ford-maverick-hybrid-with-stacks-is-real-but-it-cant-hurt-you
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: CaminoRacer on November 15, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 15, 2023, 12:50:30 PM:lol:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-ford-maverick-hybrid-with-stacks-is-real-but-it-cant-hurt-you

Put it in the rice thread!
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on November 15, 2023, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 15, 2023, 12:56:31 PMPut it in the rice thread!

I Don't even know where that is......... :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 28, 2023, 07:03:23 PM
Base price just went up $415.
2022 XL hybrid started at $19,950 plus destination fees.

It's now $25,380. Turbow is $1,500 less.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 28, 2023, 07:10:13 PM
I can't afford a new one, anyway. I'll look for a used one in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 29, 2023, 07:19:48 AM
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 28, 2023, 07:10:13 PMI can't afford a new one, anyway. I'll look for a used one in a couple of years.

Yeah plus you're avoiding the first year woes.

There's apparently about 1-2% of the hybrids which have some weird power drain issue- the 12v gets drained to the point the truck won't start. They've replaced the positive cable (which is ALUMINUM?!?!  :confused:   :nutty:  ) and they've found a giant batch of 12v batteries were sub-optimal (bad, and replaced). But some people are still having issues.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 29, 2023, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 29, 2023, 07:19:48 AMYeah plus you're avoiding the first year woes.

There's apparently about 1-2% of the hybrids which have some weird power drain issue- the 12v gets drained to the point the truck won't start. They've replaced the positive cable (which is ALUMINUM?!?!  :confused:   :nutty:  ) and they've found a giant batch of 12v batteries were sub-optimal (bad, and replaced). But some people are still having issues.

That's a dumb thing to cheap out on. Good 12V batteries are already fully developed, proven, and ubiquitous. I wonder who the supplier was. Aluminum wires are quite common these days, like it or not.

Speak of the devil, TUNDRA's battery is tagged 6/19. I need to replace that thing before it actually needs replacing, and then takes out the alternator.
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 13, 2024, 07:17:50 PM
Got our first "truck help" request today. Friend bought a rental home, getting it fixed up. Needed to return a door to Lowe's and get different one...
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on January 19, 2024, 09:44:27 AM
Got notice for an emissions recall (reprogram the computer, I'm SURE mileage will go down), so opted for oil change (6100 miles) and told them about a little bit of exterior rattle from front right over bumps.

The new oil change sticker says another 5k miles.

They confirmed rattle so tightened steering & suspension, then put "sound kit" on to figure out what it is. (multi microphone setup?) They said it's the right front strut- Ford says to just replace it and not try to repair anything. They offered to pick truck up from house/work and drop it back off. Waiting for part.

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It's funny that my entire life I've never had warranty nor paid for suspension on a car, although a few times was told a strut was leaking. Never felt excessive roll etc...

I'm also used to all kinds of squeaks and rattles- always bought well-worn cars. So this experience is very new to me. :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 17, 2024, 06:49:11 PM
Strut is fixed- rattle is totally gone.

Amazing the dealership would drive someone 15min to my house come pick Maverick up, then drop it back off.

Got 50mpg driving a slightly hilly road about 25min away (and same home)- 45mph speed limit helps. :lol:
Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 02, 2024, 04:58:29 PM
Trucks sure are handy!

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Title: Re: Ford Maverick
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2024, 03:45:52 PM
Lols

https://www.theautopian.com/if-there-was-only-one-car-allowed-to-be-built-and-sold-in-america-it-should-be-the-ford-maverick/