Ford Maverick

AutobahnSHO · July 07, 2023, 08:23:06 PM

So the 2022 hybrid Maverick started at $19.9k (plus $16xx.xx destination fee), with the turbo being another $1.5k or so.

Ordering for 2024 Maverick opens July 17th with 2023 orders which haven't been built yet getting priority and a rebate to match 2023 price. If the '23 gets built they'll cancel the '24.

News is 2024 turbo will start at $24k, hybrid is an extra $1.5k; less confusing feature options, but to get many of them have to spring for Lariat.

AutobahnSHO · July 22, 2023, 01:29:16 PM

Ok so here's the frame without boats. The straps hold it firm against the fender wells, and keep it from sliding backwards. They're tied in the back just to take up slack so they're not flapping around.

Boats will be strapped onto carriers. They stick out a few feet past tailgate but upright. You can still see both taillights at a reasonable distance behind.

Front end of boats are below the top of the bed. And should be much easier to load and unload than up over the tailgate.

Only bummer is the mounts are too tall so I'll need to fold them down to roll the tonneau cover over the assembly after we unload boats...

AutobahnSHO · July 22, 2023, 01:32:29 PM

I have U-Haul brake/turn lights from towing Scrappy. I need to get a hitch and hitch lights plug, could mount lights to a board over the back tip of boats....

AutobahnSHO · August 03, 2023, 06:46:54 PM

So satisfying to be up a little higher (8in clearance) when the GA/SC monsoons get going. Don't worry about most road puddles like I would in Scrappy...

Yet Mav is also the PERFECT step-in height, we literally don't have to stretch up or down to get in or out!

CaminoRacer · August 04, 2023, 08:19:29 AM

And if the puddle is big enough, I've had cars in front of me splash the water high enough to hit my Miata's windshield. So gross. Happened last winter with a big puddle of water and slush. A car managed to go through the puddle and kick up multiple buckets worth of water right onto my car. It was like a tidal wave.

AutobahnSHO · August 05, 2023, 04:57:10 AM

Quote from: CaminoRacer on August 04, 2023, 08:19:29 AMAnd if the puddle is big enough, I've had cars in front of me splash the water high enough to hit my Miata's windshield. So gross. Happened last winter with a big puddle of water and slush. A car managed to go through the puddle and kick up multiple buckets worth of water right onto my car. It was like a tidal wave.

Eek!

Were fortunate to have three vehicles,

I don't drive Scrappy when the weather looks bad. Unless it's really really hot out, it's always top down! Except to park (ward off bird poop, shade the seat, plus the rare weird cloud out of nowhere events).

AutobahnSHO · August 19, 2023, 07:14:54 PM

Today, Mav:
-hauled an entire bed of cut up branches from a giant branch which fell on the driveway (had to use tarp and ropes)
-got me to one of the best Mtn Biking trails in the Southeast (11.5 miles from home)
-fetched four 4x4x8ft posts to replace fenceposts that rotted
-also fetched 4x bags of 50lb concrete for fenceposts. Got part of the fence down and two posts dug out. Will resume Monday....

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giant_mtb · August 23, 2023, 08:16:53 PM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 04, 2023, 08:49:09 PMI've never been on the road with a load that is dangerous, but thanks.

Yes, you have.

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Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 06, 2023, 12:49:14 PMThe rope was just in case.
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giant_mtb · August 23, 2023, 08:19:06 PM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on August 19, 2023, 07:14:54 PMToday, Mav:
-hauled an entire bed of cut up branches from a giant branch which fell on the driveway (had to use tarp and ropes)
-got me to one of the best Mtn Biking trails in the Southeast (11.5 miles from home)
-fetched four 4x4x8ft posts to replace fenceposts that rotted
-also fetched 4x bags of 50lb concrete for fenceposts. Got part of the fence down and two posts dug out. Will resume Monday....

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You're gettin' the hang of it now.

AutobahnSHO · September 30, 2023, 11:06:56 AM

I think that's a handsome kayak carrier! 10 miles to a small lake, we got 49mpg on the way there, 47 on the way back.

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Eye of the Tiger · October 06, 2023, 04:49:13 PM

That too many miles, and not enough gallons.

giant_mtb · October 06, 2023, 05:03:24 PM

That's impressive fuel mileage. I do think that the Maverick is the perfect "truck" for what most people would use a truck for. Great that that option exists on the market now.

AutobahnSHO · October 06, 2023, 05:54:26 PM

Quote from: giant_mtb on October 06, 2023, 05:03:24 PMThat's impressive fuel mileage. I do think that the Maverick is the perfect "truck" for what most people would use a truck for. Great that that option exists on the market now.

10000000000%. Plus you can get the Ecoboost which is still quite a bit better than most other trucks fuel-wise. AWD and/or off-road poseur editions are available.

I'm seeing more of them now. I think Ford is over the "can't get enough computer chips so stick them in the expensive stuff" hump.

AutobahnSHO · October 06, 2023, 05:56:24 PM

Rotated the tires today- 4k miles. It won't get an oil change until like 10k miles LOL.

I was pleasantly surprised that I could get all the lugnuts lose with just a breaker bar. Which means they weren't messed with at the dealer and were still factory "proper" torqued, right?

giant_mtb · October 06, 2023, 06:26:00 PM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 06, 2023, 05:54:26 PM10000000000%. Plus you can get the Ecoboost which is still quite a bit better than most other trucks fuel-wise. AWD and/or off-road poseur editions are available.

I'm seeing more of them now. I think Ford is over the "can't get enough computer chips so stick them in the expensive stuff" hump.

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot more now, too. They were few and far between before, but now I'm seeing more Mavs than Hyundai Santa Cruz's, which is basically its only direct competitor in the crossover-with-a-truckbed market.

AutobahnSHO · October 07, 2023, 07:10:35 PM

LOL
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a42721100/2023-ford-maverick-tremor-almost-great-rally-car/

You can't fully turn off the traction control. The Mav forum has people trying via software tweakage.

giant_mtb · October 07, 2023, 08:19:58 PM

Pull the ABS fuse. That's it.

EDIT: Will it light up all your warning lights and shit? Yeah. But none of those systems can operate without ABS.

giant_mtb · October 07, 2023, 08:33:23 PM

Welcome to the truck world where slippery/winter driving with ABS absolutely sucks.

Morris Minor · October 08, 2023, 06:45:38 AM

Looks great Will. Mavs are quite rare here, so I do a mental check mark when I do see one. One of two people here have Santa Cruzes (whose fronts are BMW-ugly IMO) but Tacomas are the truck of choice if you don't want to join the half-ton gang. Long way of saying Ford has that niche almost to itself.

AutobahnSHO · October 09, 2023, 06:00:56 AM

Quote from: Morris Minor on October 08, 2023, 06:45:38 AMLooks great Will. Mavs are quite rare here, so I do a mental check mark when I do see one. One of two people here have Santa Cruzes (whose fronts are BMW-ugly IMO) but Tacomas are the truck of choice if you don't want to join the half-ton gang. Long way of saying Ford has that niche almost to itself.

Thanks, totally agree. It's sad Ford isn't building more of them.

Apparently the Maverick cut into Ranger sales, so they want to avoid that. But they don't make any cheap cars anymore! Maybe they just build enough Mavericks to keep fleet fuel economy on target?

Seems to me the Maverick could be a gateway car- get people hooked earlier in life then still them more expensive stuff later?

Madman · October 11, 2023, 09:27:26 PM

Ford doesn't want to build Mavericks for the same reason they don't want to build any Fiestas and Focuses anymore; they don't make any money selling them.

Ford makes just enough Mavericks to use them as "Sucker Bait." It's the classic bait-and-switch tactic. They lure buyers in the door, thinking they can buy a truck for $25,000 only for them to drive out that same door, three hours later, in an F-150 at more than twice the price with a 96-month payment book in the glovebox.

GoCougs · October 11, 2023, 11:02:01 PM

Quote from: Madman on October 11, 2023, 09:27:26 PMFord doesn't want to build Mavericks for the same reason they don't want to build any Fiestas and Focuses anymore; they don't make any money selling them.

Ford makes just enough Mavericks to use them as "Sucker Bait." It's the classic bait-and-switch tactic. They lure buyers in the door, thinking they can buy a truck for $25,000 only for them to drive out that same door, three hours later, in an F-150 at more than twice the price with a 96-month payment book in the glovebox.

No.

veeman · October 12, 2023, 10:25:00 AM

Ford as usual is pulling a Ford and has significantly raised the price of the Maverick.

When it first came just a few years ago the base model was a stripper FWD hybrid and cost was $21490.

In 2024 the base model is no longer a hybrid. The hybrid is a $1500 upcharge and stripper FWD hybrid is now $24900. I still think it's a great deal for the stripper model. Optioned to the max it's a $39945 small pickup.

I understand they need to make money on it.

Laconian · October 12, 2023, 12:07:34 PM

Quote from: veeman on October 12, 2023, 10:25:00 AMFord as usual is pulling a Ford and has significantly raised the price of the Maverick.

When it first came just a few years ago the base model was a stripper FWD hybrid and cost was $21490.

In 2024 the base model is no longer a hybrid. The hybrid is a $1500 upcharge and stripper FWD hybrid is now $24900. I still think it's a great deal for the stripper model. Optioned to the max it's a $39945 small pickup.

I understand they need to make money on it.

My money is on them not wanting to cannibalize the sales of their other higher profit margin trucks.

AutobahnSHO · October 12, 2023, 02:32:13 PM

It's wild how they didn't anticipate the demand of the hybrid. SOOOOOO many people would sell the ones they already bought for an AWD hybrid...

Or even a 100% electric the same size. Which I don't know if that would work because it would need some serious redesign. The battery in the current hybrid is only 1.1KWh....

AutobahnSHO · October 12, 2023, 02:33:27 PM

We count ourselves wildly fortunate that we got an 85% loaded Hybrid Lariat for the price we did. $27,865.

AutobahnSHO · October 12, 2023, 02:35:12 PM

And we love it enough to want another- but cheapest "decent" used ones I found on Carmax, Carvana, and Ebay today are $28k and up for base model 2022 trucks with MILES on them. Which didn't have cruise control from the factory.

AutobahnSHO · October 13, 2023, 06:22:57 AM

HOW BIG do trucks need to be, anyway?

I was in Mav behind a new F150 and the top of the tailgate was above my eyeline. Mav is 8in clearance and you sit fairly upright- just like other trucks.

F150 may be lifted- they had step bars but still stock tires. But it may not have been?

SJ_GTI · October 13, 2023, 07:39:41 AM

I'm seeing them around here and there now, they do look good. Basically just a small truck, but the proportions work.

Eye of the Tiger · October 13, 2023, 09:18:29 AM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 13, 2023, 06:22:57 AMHOW BIG do trucks need to be, anyway?

I was in Mav behind a new F150 and the top of the tailgate was above my eyeline. Mav is 8in clearance and you sit fairly upright- just like other trucks.

F150 may be lifted- they had step bars but still stock tires. But it may not have been?

How big?

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