Too much choice is a bad thing.

Started by 12,000 RPM, November 29, 2014, 02:17:04 PM

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The 4er Gran Coupe looks so much better than the current 3er sedan. Sleeker, sexier and sportier. The 3er looks totally bland next to a 4er Gran Coupe IMO.
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Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 04, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
The 4er Gran Coupe looks so much better than the current 3er sedan. Sleeker, sexier and sportier. The 3er looks totally bland next to a 4er Gran Coupe IMO.

I agree that it's the best looking variant. A pity that it's also one of the heaviest.
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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on December 04, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
I agree that it's the best looking variant. A pity that it's also one of the heaviest.

If BMW can make an X5 M and X6 M handle like a sports car, then the extra weight of the 4er Gran Coupe shouldn't be a problem IMO.
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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on December 04, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
I agree that it's the best looking variant. A pity that it's also one of the heaviest.


I like the 3 touring the best in regards to style.




Ironically, I'm not sure what place the 2 series actually has. It's probably the most pointless model

12,000 RPM

2 series is what the 3 series once was. A no bullshit sports coupe. Once my kids are of front facing seat age I want an M235i. They will be cheap enough by then.
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Nobody really buys any of the 3 variants anywhere near as much as they do the sedan
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Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on December 04, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
I'm fine with the model proliferation.

Here in Mexico however, BMW's pricing has gotten out of hand in the last 3 years or so. While inflation has been low, BMW and to some extent the other euro premium brands have gone wild with increases.

I paid $780,000 pesos for both my E90 M3 and my 1M. The M4 today goes for TWICE that, and the M235i is as expensive as the 1M was. They added a 3rd year of warranty and free service since I got my cars but it's insane.

What's the value of the Peso relative to the Euro done during that period? 

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Quote from: CLKid on December 04, 2014, 10:13:06 AM
What's the value of the Peso relative to the Euro done during that period?

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 04, 2014, 10:04:14 AM
Nobody really buys any of the 3 variants anywhere near as much as they do the sedan

But sales of the 2-series is far smaller



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Quote from: Lebowski on December 04, 2014, 05:27:49 AM
Both the 4/6 GC and 3/5 GT are goofy, ugly vehicles IMO.  Blurring lines between categories that didn't need to be combined and confusing as far as product lineup. Same goes for the X4 and X6.

We finally agree on something!  It hasn't happened in years. 
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Quote from: thecarnut on December 04, 2014, 06:53:25 AM
My boss has a 4GC. It looks really nice and from inside you can't even tell it's a 4 banger while driving/riding around in it.

It always struck me as weird as to how small it is inside compared to it's external size.

The name-only coupes are often like that.  When my friends and I would go some place together, we almost always took my Jetta over their CC, since my Jetta felt roomier. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
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veeman

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on December 04, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
I'm fine with the model proliferation.

Here in Mexico however, BMW's pricing has gotten out of hand in the last 3 years or so. While inflation has been low, BMW and to some extent the other euro premium brands have gone wild with increases.

I paid $780,000 pesos for both my E90 M3 and my 1M. The M4 today goes for TWICE that, and the M235i is as expensive as the 1M was. They added a 3rd year of warranty and free service since I got my cars but it's insane.

That's shitty.  Price gouging.  <1% of population can afford a BMW over there and so they're banking on this <1% still ponying up the cash.  Is the coffee at the dealership at least gourmet? :)

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Quote from: veeman on December 04, 2014, 12:20:15 PM
That's shitty.  Price gouging.  <1% of population can afford a BMW over there and so they're banking on this <1% still ponying up the cash.  Is the coffee at the dealership at least gourmet? :)

If those cars get much more expensive, they'll be packing them in coffee to get them through customs. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
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