GM to possibly defecate all over early ATS-V adopters......

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http://wot.motortrend.com/1505_cadillac_ats_v_to_feature_ls7_power.html#__federated=1

Last year, we promised you that an even hotter version of the Cadillac ATS-V was on the way. Now, we've finally dug up some more dirt on Cadillac's elusive ATS-V+. As we said before, the ATS was designed from the outset to fit a V-8 under the hood. But the question since then has been, which one? General Motors has come up with an answer: the 7.0-liter LS7 V-8 used in the Camaro Z/28 and C6 Z06.

GM wants its high-revving naturally aspirated eight-cylinder to live on, so it's keeping it in production for the Cadillac ATS-V+. Though we previously hoped for a version of the C7 Z06's supercharged 6.2-liter LT4 V-8, we'd be perfectly happy with an LS7-powered ATS. That engine, which is hand-built at GM's Bowling Green Assembly Plant, produces 505 hp and 481 lb-ft of torque in the fifth-generation Camaro Z/28. Even if the LS7 receives no updates before serving in the ATS-V+, it would still be more powerful than the standard ATS-V's 464-hp, 445-lb-ft twin-turbo 3.6-liter V-6. It would also be lighter. In addition to an eight-speed automatic transmission, the ATS-V+ will have the option of a seven-speed manual transmission sourced from the Corvette. A quick-shifting dual-clutch gearbox should arrive later.

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Wouldnt it make more sense to go with a freer breathing LT1 though? Folks are seeing mega gains with bolt ons, there's a lot left in it. Still though, definitely a move in the right direction, albeit at the expense of any and everybody who leapt early. Also helps put much needed space between it and the Cmero SS.

[Rich]

We'll see how accurate it is. 

If they stick the LS7 in it, I hope they modernize it

[SVT666]

Like I said in the other thread, I would buy this in a heartbeat even though it has CUE.  Of course, I would wait for used ones to come down in price before I did though.

[GoCougs]

I don't buy it. The LS7 is ~10 years old and the LT1 is 98% as good a performance motor and it costs less.

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U sure about the costing less thing? LT1 has a lot more tech.

[SVT666]

I don't buy it. The LS7 is ~10 years old and the LT1 is 98% as good a performance motor and it costs less.

505 hp vs 460 hp

[GoCougs]

U sure about the costing less thing? LT1 has a lot more tech.

Well, true, it's only my hunch, but the LT1 and variants are used in much higher volumes.

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Yea I think the Z28 was a good swan song for the LS engine. LT1 makes a lot more sense, especially with the ATS representing a new chapter and the CTS-V having the LT4 already. But GM is gonna GM.

[Xer0]

This is really the only engine that GM could use.  Putting the LT1 in there would make no sense since it makes the same power as the TT V6 and the LT4 in this car would shit all over the CTS-V. 

Although, if this news is true, another LS7 powered Z/28 is right around the corner too probably.  But golly, this engine is getting old.


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This is really the only engine that GM could use.  Putting the LT1 in there would make no sense since it makes the same power as the TT V6 and the LT4 in this car would shit all over the CTS-V. 

Although, if this news is true, another LS7 powered Z/28 is right around the corner too probably.  But golly, this engine is getting old.


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LT1 is just getting started brah. Remember the LS1 only made 350HP. Then the LS6 made 405 or whatever.  Bottom line I think they can get at least 500HP out of the LT engine. Especially if they punch it out. DI and DoD will help them meet emissions (esp since the LS7 is still gravy).

They can def get the LT1 up to LS7 HP, or beyond, w/no supercharger. And it will probably lighter and better balanced in the chassis than the TT V6.

[Xer0]

LT1 is just getting started brah. Remember the LS1 only made 350HP. Then the LS6 made 405 or whatever.  Bottom line I think they can get at least 500HP out of the LT engine. Especially if they punch it out. DI and DoD will help them meet emissions (esp since the LS7 is still gravy).

They can def get the LT1 up to LS7 HP, or beyond, w/no supercharger. And it will probably lighter and better balanced in the chassis than the TT V6.

All of those gains came from increased displacement and after the engine has been out for a few years.  I don't doubt the subsequent LT2 and on will make more power, but that's still years out while the LS7 is making more power now and is effectively just sitting there, waiting to be used.


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[MX793]

Why are the doing a "V+" model?  Why isn't the turbocharged model the "V-sport" and the V8 version the full blown "V"?  Are they also going to do a "V+" CTS?

[SVT666]

I don't care what they call it...I WANT IT!!!

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Why are the doing a "V+" model?  Why isn't the turbocharged model the "V-sport" and the V8 version the full blown "V"?  Are they also going to do a "V+" CTS?

Yea the turbo V6 should have been the V sport and the V8 should have been the V. Good call.

Actually, turbo V6 detuned could have replaced the regular V6. The German blown 6s culo blast the NA stuff and dont even sound or respond worse. My boss has an E90 335i and that thing rips. They are all like .5-1 sec faster to 60 and through the quarter.

[r0tor]

Why are the doing a "V+" model?  Why isn't the turbocharged model the "V-sport" and the V8 version the full blown "V"?  Are they also going to do a "V+" CTS?

Because the V is not on sale yet and they already know they screwed the pooch on engine choice.

[MrH]

I'm not buying this rumor for one second.

[SVT666]

If the rumour is true, I will hold out on my next car purchase until I can buy one used.