I bought a 4Runner

[CALL_911]

Always curious what the appeal is of a 4Runner over a Grand Cherokee

ISIS can't set up cells at their local Chrysler Jeep Eagle dealers

[Soup DeVille]

ISIS can't set up cells at their local Chrysler Jeep Eagle dealers

Eagle?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Eagle?

Don't forget AMC

[Eye of the Tiger]

Always curious what the appeal is of a 4Runner over a Grand Cherokee

Solid rear axle?

[Soup DeVille]

Always curious what the appeal is of a 4Runner over a Grand Cherokee

Not really the same type of vehicle, other than being SUVs of relatively the same size.

[Soup DeVille]

Don't forget AMC

Why not throw Renault in there too?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Why not throw Renault in there too?

If you have to

[GoCougs]

Always curious what the appeal is of a 4Runner over a Grand Cherokee

87x the reliability and 3x the resale.

If the 4Runner only had the Tundra's new drive train. Oh lordy.

[r0tor]

Not really the same type of vehicle, other than being SUVs of relatively the same size.

How so?   Grand Cherokee is a out the same size, can tow more and go off-road just as far... While being more comfortable, better handling, and better mpg

Not bashing your choice - just wondering

[Soup DeVille]

How so?   Grand Cherokee is a out the same size, can tow more and go off-road just as far... While being more comfortable, better handling, and better mpg

Not bashing your choice - just wondering

Yeah. Sure.

You're the most needlessly and baselessly confrontational person I've ever met. No, I don't trust your motives.

The GC is a unibody SUV that's much more comfort oriented and significantly less capable off road. That's not a bad thing; you'll notice I also own a Durango, which os basically a GV without a 2-speed transfer case. Its a good car. Its not what I wanted.

[CaminoRacer]

Oh, that would be ideal. It seems like the little gas engine has to rev over 9000 RPM before the thing even start to move.

I want to try one of the Hondas with the dual clutch. I'm curious if it's better than the stupid snowmobile CVTs

[Eye of the Tiger]

I want to try one of the Hondas with the dual clutch. I'm curious if it's better than the stupid snowmobile CVTs

Low speed crawling could mean automated clutch slipping though... I know there is low range, but how low?

[r0tor]

Yeah. Sure.

You're the most needlessly and baselessly confrontational person I've ever met. No, I don't trust your motives.

The GC is a unibody SUV that's much more comfort oriented and significantly less capable off road. That's not a bad thing; you'll notice I also own a Durango, which os basically a GV without a 2-speed transfer case. Its a good car. Its not what I wanted.

How is it significantly less capable off-road?  Where will it go that a JGC won't?

[Soup DeVille]

How is it significantly less capable off-road?  Where will it go that a JGC won't?

Less clearance, and more vulnerable bits exposed on the underneath. Less suspension travel as well. The GCs that go off road are either raised or beaters.

Besides, I didn't want one.

[mzziaz]

New????!

This is totally out of character!

[Soup DeVille]

New????!

This is totally out of character!

Completely.

But with the used market he way it is now, its hard to make a case for a newish used car.

[r0tor]

Less clearance, and more vulnerable bits exposed on the underneath. Less suspension travel as well. The GCs that go off road are either raised or beaters.

Besides, I didn't want one.

Depending on the option packages... JGC with air suspension has much more ground clearance and you can also get full skid plates and rock rails from factory

[Eye of the Tiger]

JGC is a fragile jacked up car. You have to realign the suspension every time you take it off the pavement. This is a fact.

[Soup DeVille]

Depending on the option packages... JGC with air suspension has much more ground clearance and you can also get full skid plates and rock rails from factory

I cannot imagine a scenario where I would buy another vehicle with air suspension under any circumstances.

And yes, if I got a Trailhawk with all the Mopar dealer add-ons, I'd also be paying $70,000.

But you're missing the point: I still wouldn't want it. If I were to buy a Jeep, I'd buy a Wrangler. Actually, I'd buy a Grand Wagoneer from the AMC era. There is simply nothing about the GC that appeals to me.

[r0tor]

JGC is a fragile jacked up car. You have to realign the suspension every time you take it off the pavement. This is a fact.

Not my fact

[CaminoRacer]

Actually, I'd buy a Grand Wagoneer from the AMC era.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Not my fact

Get your alignment checked and show me.

[GoCougs]

AMC 401 small block FTW.

[Eye of the Tiger]

AMC 242 even smaller block FTW

[r0tor]

I cannot imagine a scenario where I would buy another vehicle with air suspension under any circumstances.

And yes, if I got a Trailhawk with all the Mopar dealer add-ons, I'd also be paying $70,000.

But you're missing the point: I still wouldn't want it. If I were to buy a Jeep, I'd buy a Wrangler. Actually, I'd buy a Grand Wagoneer from the AMC era. There is simply nothing about the GC that appeals to me.

Well for the record a Trailhawk isn't needed for underbody skid plates and air suspension, but even a fully loaded Trailhawk MSRP is only ~$50k

But whatevers

[Eye of the Tiger]

The new Chevy Trailblazer also has the word "trail" in its name.

[Submariner]

The new Chevy Trailblazer also has the word "trail" in its name.

So does trail mix.

[r0tor]

The new Chevy Trailblazer also has the word "trail" in its name.

You would think blaze would mean it's also a GM ev offering

[Eye of the Tiger]

So does trail mix.

Oh, I love trail mix!

[Submariner]

Oh, I love trail mix!

And it's "trail rated" too.