New Crossover for the house

[Laconian]

Mazda's Stop and Go is kind of annoying because it turns off if you're stopped for more than a few seconds. I don't know if other manufacturers do that or not.

Otherwise, it was awesome.

Personally though, I don't want to use any of these features other than radar cruise. I feel like it'd make me a lazy driver. More likely to zone out and whatnot.

On the Subaru you have to feather the throttle or press resume on cruise to get the car going again.

[Eye of the Tiger]

This kind of shit makes me want to go back to 1960s automotive technology. Give me some real heavy metal bumpers to crush your silly plastic and foam while you check your facebook status.

[AutobahnSHO]

Mazda's Stop and Go is kind of annoying because it turns off if you're stopped for more than a few seconds. I don't know if other manufacturers do that or not.

F150 I rented this year did that too.
Let go of the brake and it starts up again and doesn't turn off again until you've driven some. So it was a game, if I knew I had a small gap to get into traffic I'd start it back up to be ready.

Also, the motor would turn on again by itself sometimes if it was hot and the A/C was working hard.

[BimmerM3]

F150 I rented this year did that too.
Let go of the brake and it starts up again and doesn't turn off again until you've driven some. So it was a game, if I knew I had a small gap to get into traffic I'd start it back up to be ready.

Also, the motor would turn on again by itself sometimes if it was hot and the A/C was working hard.

Oh, I meant stop and go cruise control, not the engine on/off. Mazda's radar cruise control can bring the car to a complete stop, and start back up again when traffic moves as long as you haven't been stopped too long. Amazing for stop and go traffic.

[AutobahnSHO]

That's awesome!

[r0tor]

It's not that uncommon in cars today... But you still can't relax with it on because there is always some asshat that needs to cut you off or wedge his way in your lane

Also if you are on the highway with nobody in front of you and come up on cars that are dead stopped... They tend to not stop reliably in time if you are over 30 mph

[BimmerM3]

It's not that uncommon in cars today... But you still can't relax with it on because there is always some asshat that needs to cut you off or wedge his way in your lane

Also if you are on the highway with nobody in front of you and come up on cars that are dead stopped... They tend to not stop reliably in time if you are over 30 mph

I thought Mazda's was a good balance of making stop and go traffic significantly more bearable without letting me get lazy. I'm more more weary of lane keep assist and Tesla Autopilot kinda stuff - I think I'd start to zone out too much or something if I got in the habit of using that. Until it's legit fully autonomous driving, I want to make sure I'm really paying attention.

You can adjust the following distance in the Mazda 6, which helps some if you adjust that for various traffic conditions. But yeah, you gotta keep an eye out for stopped traffic ahead of you and what not.

[FoMoJo]

I thought Mazda's was a good balance of making stop and go traffic significantly more bearable without letting me get lazy. I'm more more weary of lane keep assist and Tesla Autopilot kinda stuff - I think I'd start to zone out too much or something if I got in the habit of using that. Until it's legit fully autonomous driving, I want to make sure I'm really paying attention.

You can adjust the following distance in the Mazda 6, which helps some if you adjust that for various traffic conditions. But yeah, you gotta keep an eye out for stopped traffic ahead of you and what not.

That seems extremely dangerous to me.  If you start relying on this gizmo too much, your just not going to be as focused on driving as you should be.  Relying on this semi-autonomous stuff is just not good driving practice. 

[r0tor]

One hazard in stop and go is when you have an asshole try to shoot in front of you but can't completely fit so only a fender or so is between you and the car that use to be right in front of you... You have to hope your car realizes its now following the partial car in front of you that is now much closer and can react quick enough to not hit it


I started using the system in the alfa at the beginning and just gave up as unpredictable idiots just increased stress levels.... Plus it's a bit more hyperactive in throttle/braking then I would drive

[MrH]

Finally moving on this.  Going to the dealership tomorrow, should have something new coming back.  Tried my best to put in a new Miata in the deal too, but ultimately couldn't get anyone to get aggressive on trade in pricing for the S2000.  It's too risky for dealers.

So it will be a 2019 Mazda CX-5, Grand Touring. Black with black interior. Not sure if we're going to get the GT Premium package or not.

For $1625 MSRP, you get:

- Heads up display
- auto power folding side mirrors
- Heated rear seats
- Heated steering wheel
- Ventilated front seats
- Windshield wiper de-icer

Worth it?  I'm leaning towards no.  I do love a good heads up display though...

[MexicoCityM3]

Get the package.

Good choice much better than a CRV IMO.

[12,000 RPM]

If she will be parking this in a garage, no, definitely not worth it

I'm thinking lighter exterior/interior colors will be better than ventilated seats in the summer. All that other shit is gimmicky crap

[Laconian]

That's your opinion, man. A lot of people go nuts for heated stuff.

[BimmerM3]

That's your opinion, man. A lot of people go nuts for heated stuff.

It already has heated front seats though. Heated back seats are definitely not a necessity, and $1600 is a lot for a heated steering wheel when you can just wear gloves for a few extra minutes while the car warms up.

I'd have to try the vented seats to decide for sure, but personally, I probably wouldn't get the package.

[Laconian]

My mom loves the heated steering wheel. She's always suffered from cold hands. I wouldn't pay $1600 for it but she was all over it

[BimmerM3]

My mom loves the heated steering wheel. She's always suffered from cold hands. I wouldn't pay $1600 for it but she was all over it

Heh, I have the opposite problem - I have to clean the Explorer's steering wheel all the time because it gets nasty from my sweaty hands.

But yeah, it's way too personal of a decision. Mike and la wifa need to decide this one their own.

[HurricaneSteve]

This is for your wife and you guys live in the midwest, right? Assuming it's a 5 year loan, $1,600 is only an extra $26 per month and will help with resale down the road, as those winters are no joke. Even if it's garaged, I still remember those days were it was super cold and a little extra warmth would have gone a long way if I had it.

[FoMoJo]

Heated steering wheel is nice.  Not so sure about the others.  Don't really see the point of the heads-up displays.

[BimmerM3]

Don't really see the point of the heads-up displays.

Keeps your eyes closer to the road.

[FoMoJo]

Keeps your eyes closer to the road.

What sort of information does it display typically? 

[giant_mtb]

What sort of information does it display typically? 

Speed, RPM, maybe compass. 

[SJ_GTI]

I'd probably get the package just for the HUD.

[r0tor]

I love my heated steering wheel.

[CALL_911]

If she will be parking this in a garage, no, definitely not worth it

I'm thinking lighter exterior/interior colors will be better than ventilated seats in the summer. All that other shit is gimmicky crap

No

[Eye of the Tiger]

I love my heated steering wheel.

I love your heated steering wheel, too.

[giant_mtb]

A heated steering wheel is like putting your hands over a small fire. I love them.

[MrH]

Well. At the dealership now. The one without the package is damaged. That made the decision for us. Working out numbers now.

[MrH]

Done deal. Wrapping up now.

[HurricaneSteve]

Congrats! You guys are getting the regular Grand Touring and not the Reserve, right?

[MrH]

Yep. Black grand touring with the tech package. It's her car, no turbo needed.