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Started by FoMoJo, August 26, 2014, 05:59:31 AM

Rich

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 10, 2016, 05:00:41 PM
If not for the snub nose it could pass for front engined.

If not for being red, santa claus could pass for being blue. 

wat

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68_427

Quote from: Rich on June 13, 2016, 04:58:38 AM
If not for being red, santa claus could pass for being blue. 

wat



And depending on the price it could be a good deal
Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


MexicoCityM3

Club meet today....



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FoMoJo

If you drive a Honda or Acura, don't ever get into an accident...Stop driving these Hondas right now, says regulator

QuoteFederal safety regulators warned owners of more than 300,000 Hondas and Acuras to immediately stop driving their cars until their Takata airbags are replaced.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said new tests show the airbags have a 50% chance of exploding when deployed in an accident -- compared to a 1% chance for other airbags.
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68_427

My mom just got her's in her Legacy replaced.  The problem is these parts aren't readily available.  My mom took her car in for them to check if it was affected and it took over a month to get the new airbag in.  Not everyone can just "stop" driving their cars.
Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


AutobahnSHO

#545
+1 we got a call from Georgia Subaru about 4 months after we first visited them about it and a month after we moved to NY.

LUCKY our Odyssey just barely missed the cut
Will

AutobahnSHO

That Tesla "auto-pilot" crash.

"The fatal crash occurred on May 7, in Williston, Florida, when the victim Joshua D. Brown of Canton, Ohio, was watching Harry Potter in his Tesla Model S, when the self-driving car collided into a tractor-trailer making a left turn at a highway intersection, says ABC. 

The Model S went underneath the trailer, shearing off the roof of the vehicle.

"What we know is that the vehicle was on a divided highway with Autopilot engaged when a tractor trailer drove across the highway perpendicular to the Model S," Tesla said in a statement on their website. "Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied." "

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/07/01/the-first-death-involving-a-self-driving-car-occurred-in-florida
Will

Raza

Don't call it Autopilot if, you know, it doesn't do that.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

MX793

Quote from: Raza  on July 01, 2016, 04:17:51 PM
Don't call it Autopilot if, you know, it doesn't do that.

It auto-piloted itself right into the side of a truck it didn't see, perfectly simulating what a human driver who isn't looking at the road would do.


If you don't want to drive yourself, call a cab/Uber/Lyft or take public transit.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: MX793 on July 01, 2016, 05:28:57 PM
perfectly simulating what a human driver who isn't looking at the road would do.

LOL
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68_427

Quote from: Raza  on July 01, 2016, 04:17:51 PM
Don't call it Autopilot if, you know, it doesn't do that.

So we should change the name for planes too huh?
Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


Soup DeVille

Quote from: 68_427 on July 04, 2016, 04:30:28 AM
So we should change the name for planes too huh?

We don't in general let every random jackass who can pass an eye test fly airplanes.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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68_427

Autotune is Autotune whether a skilled producer or total novice is using it.
Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


Soup DeVille

Quote from: 68_427 on July 04, 2016, 05:52:07 AM
Autotune is Autotune whether a skilled producer or total novice is using it.

Knowing when and under what situations to use it and the limitations of it are another thing entirely.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Raza

Quote from: 68_427 on July 04, 2016, 04:30:28 AM
So we should change the name for planes too huh?

Yes.

(Also, no. Aren't autopilot systems in planes so advanced that they can essentially take off, fly, and land without pilot intervention to the point that planes are safer without pilots?)
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

MrH

Quote from: Raza  on July 04, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
Yes.

(Also, no. Aren't autopilot systems in planes so advanced that they can essentially take off, fly, and land without pilot intervention to the point that planes are safer without pilots?)


No, it's not like that at all.

Now we know what happened to that Malasian vanishing plane. Pilot was watching Harry Potter and not paying attention.
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MexicoCityM3

#556
Placed a refundable deposit on this today: http://auto.autoplaza.com.mx/MLM-561413184-porsche-911-2p-carrera-2s-_JM

It would replace the E46. I drove it last Saturday. It's mint. Has only 3K miles on it. A bit expensive, but sold by a Porsche dealer.

Manual 997.2 S cars are very rare here, the vast majority are PDK. Car has very little extra equipment: sunroof, ventilated & heated seats, BOSE sound, Sport Chrono. (No sports exhaust - but it sounds good anyway)

Would you get this or wait a year and *maybe* get a new 991.2 Base Carrera (the new turbo) for about 65% more money? Wait and get a used (2012 or 2013) 991.1 Carrera S maybe a bit later (A 991.1S is about 30% more money)?

No warranty. I've researched the 997.2 and it seems to be reliable. Too low mileage maybe?

It would be driven on track (of course) and the occasional weekend. I'd get a set of Pilot Sport Cup 2s and call it a day.

I have 5 days to make up my mind.
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'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

Rupert

Yes, that's the idea. It's about time I'm not the only Porsche owner here!
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: Rupert on July 04, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
Yes, that's the idea. It's about time I'm not the only Porsche owner here!

:lol:

This car seems to be a find, very few 997.2s available. And none even close to this mileage.
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'08 M5 E60 SMG  Space Grey
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'16 GT4 (1/3rd Share lol)
'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

CaminoRacer

That seems like a better deal than waiting for a 991. The 991 doesn't seem to be different enough or measurably better to justify the increased cost.
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FoMoJo

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 04, 2016, 05:02:15 PM
Placed a refundable deposit on this today: http://auto.autoplaza.com.mx/MLM-561413184-porsche-911-2p-carrera-2s-_JM

It would replace the E46. I drove it last Saturday. It's mint. Has only 3K miles on it. A bit expensive, but sold by a Porsche dealer.

Manual 997.2 S cars are very rare here, the vast majority are PDK. Car has very little extra equipment: sunroof, ventilated & heated seats, BOSE sound, Sport Chrono. (No sports exhaust - but it sounds good anyway)

Would you get this or wait a year and *maybe* get a new 991.2 Base Carrera (the new turbo) for about 65% more money? Wait and get a used (2012 or 2013) 991.1 Carrera S maybe a bit later (A 991.1S is about 30% more money)?

No warranty. I've researched the 997.2 and it seems to be reliable. Too low mileage maybe?

It would be driven on track (of course) and the occasional weekend. I'd get a set of Pilot Sport Cup 2s and call it a day.

I have 5 days to make up my mind.
Now you can really test your driving limits.
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 04, 2016, 05:31:06 PM
That seems like a better deal than waiting for a 991. The 991 doesn't seem to be different enough or measurably better to justify the increased cost.

The 991 performs better and has a much nicer interior. But it also seems to be more of a GT car and less raw than the 997. 997 might be more fun.
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'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

MexicoCityM3

Quote from: FoMoJo on July 04, 2016, 05:32:40 PM
Now you can really test your driving limits.

Dat ass. We'll see. Even on the brief test drive you can feel the nose lighten under acceleration significantly. I'll have to adjust, that's for sure.
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'08 M5 E60 SMG  Space Grey
'11 1M E82 6SPD Sapphire Black
'16 GT4 (1/3rd Share lol)
'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

Raza

Quote from: Rupert on July 04, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
Yes, that's the idea. It's about time I'm not the only Porsche owner here!

I was first.  :devil:
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 04, 2016, 05:22:37 PM
:lol:

This car seems to be a find, very few 997.2s available. And none even close to this mileage.

That's a good deal for that little mileage. And you won't lose much by driving it.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Raza

Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 04, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
The 991 performs better and has a much nicer interior. But it also seems to be more of a GT car and less raw than the 997. 997 might be more fun.

997 looks better too.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
It's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

MexicoCityM3

Quote from: Raza  on July 04, 2016, 06:01:29 PM
That's a good deal for that little mileage. And you won't lose much by driving it.

That's the thing. Beyond the initial purchase cost, buying a used one like this one will be a much lower expense over time. I figure this thing will depreciate 5 to 10% per year tops. Maybe 10% the first year because I am paying a bit of a premium buying at a dealer. A new one loses 15-25% at least driving out of the lot.
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'08 M5 E60 SMG  Space Grey
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'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

12,000 RPM

I would test drive a 991.2 before making the decision if you can.

For all the hulabaloo about the turbocharging, with your altitude that boost may prove to be invaluable. Plus you will be able to equip the new one exactly as you please etc.
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MexicoCityM3

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 04, 2016, 06:22:37 PM
I would test drive a 991.2 before making the decision if you can.

For all the hulabaloo about the turbocharging, with your altitude that boost may prove to be invaluable. Plus you will be able to equip the new one exactly as you please etc.

Not a bad point. The cost difference even vs a base 991.2 is quite large. Above 70% initial outlay and the depreciation hit. How much more fun can it be?
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'05 M3 E46 6SPD Mystic Blue
'08 M5 E60 SMG  Space Grey
'11 1M E82 6SPD Sapphire Black
'16 GT4 (1/3rd Share lol)
'18 M3 CS
'16 X5 5.0i (Wife)
'14 MINI Cooper Countryman S Automatic (For Sale)

12,000 RPM

If I lived way above sea level a turbo would be a must.

The depreciation is a big deal though. If not for that I feel like the 991.2 could possibly replace the E46 AND 1M.

Have you replaced wifey's Cooper yet? You should be shopping for Macans and X5s :lol:
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