One of the managers at the dealer told me Accords used to outsell all their other models combined. Now the CR-V does that.
Here's ours. I'll put up more pics when I can. It is roomy, pleasant, and nicely-made. There's a lot of electronic gadgetry to absorb. The good news is it has an "Earth Dreams Turbo," so now I'm certified crunchy gaia-friendly.
(https://s26.postimg.org/l9a51mkh5/IMG_2252.jpg)
(https://s26.postimg.org/60k7o4lqh/IMG_2279.jpg)
Holy Hell, they are still on the Earth thing marketing trip?
They used that as an image in Formula 1 back in 2008.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Rubens_Barrichello_2007_Malaysia.jpg/1200px-Rubens_Barrichello_2007_Malaysia.jpg)
Saw one last night. Honda hit it outta the park with the new CRV. It has the just the right touch just about everywhere, esp. styling. Once reliability/durability is added in, it's a car that keeps the rest of the auto world; especially ze Germans; up at night.
Enjoy....
Congrats! How did the decision-making go? How were the other front-runners ruled out?
Quote from: GoCougs on January 27, 2018, 02:32:04 PM
Saw one last night. Honda hit it outta the park with the new CRV. It has the just the right touch just about everywhere, esp. styling. Once reliability/durability is added in, it's a car that keeps the rest of the auto world; especially ze Germans; up at night.
Really... what German SUV competes with it? Tiguan? Anything else?
I like the CR-V, my mom's has two of them recently. The AWD is little more than a polite suggestion, and the interior design is a touch too futuristic for futuristic's sake, but the rest of the car is spot on and it's a great place to spend time.
Quote from: GoCougs on January 27, 2018, 02:32:04 PM
Saw one last night. Honda hit it outta the park with the new CRV. It has the just the right touch just about everywhere, esp. styling. Once reliability/durability is added in, it's a car that keeps the rest of the auto world; especially ze Germans; up at night.
....the lux equivalent in both ubiquity and sales is the X3
Quote from: r0tor on January 28, 2018, 08:38:56 AM
Really... what German SUV competes with it?
None can.
Beautiful car Morris. A real specimen of engineering. I'm jealous!
Yeah man, they really did a terrific job with this new CRV. Ditto the new Civic and Accord.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
....the lux equivalent in both ubiquity and sales is the X3
But not the equivalent in reliability. Ze Germans can't match a $25k Honda at any price.
Quote from: GoCougs on January 28, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
But not the equivalent in reliability. Ze Germans can't match a $25k Honda at any price.
Other than VW, why would they want to when they make the big bucks in the upper reaches of the market?
When I find myself with time near a Honda dealer I'll take a look at one just because of SpInCRVMania.
I don't know if it keeps ze Germans up at night but it certainly does GM and Ford. Especially with Nissan hitting it out of the park with the Rogue as well.
congrats man!!
Quote from: Lebowski on January 28, 2018, 12:39:29 PM
None can.
Right, because they arent fwd biased 4 door minivans
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on January 28, 2018, 01:41:45 PM
Other than VW, why would they want to when they make the big bucks in the upper reaches of the market?
When I find myself with time near a Honda dealer I'll take a look at one just because of SpInCRVMania.
Fair enough - "it's in the shop" isn't the badge of honor it once was but it is indeed still there...
Quote from: ifcar on January 28, 2018, 08:02:03 AM
Congrats! How did the decision-making go? How were the other front-runners ruled out?
i looked at:
Outback
CR-V
Highlander
Sorrento
Santa Fe Sport
Murano
Edge
Q5
X3
For each model I looked at the price high & low. Cargo capacity max & min. Mpg: city/combined/highway. 0-60. Consumer Reports reliability & owner satisfaction ratings, and a report on depreciation. It came down to the Edge & the CR-V. Then I thought about which would most likely last for 15 years, and remembered my 03 Pilot,which is still in the family.
I wouldn't trust an Edge for more than 6 years.
Quote from: GoCougs on January 28, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Fair enough - "it's in the shop" isn't the badge of honor it once was but it is indeed still there...
That's pretty funny :lol:
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 28, 2018, 05:40:48 PM
i looked at:
Outback
CR-V
Highlander
Sorrento
Santa Fe Sport
Murano
Edge
Q5
X3
For each model I looked at the price high & low. Cargo capacity max & min. Mpg: city/combined/highway. 0-60. Consumer Reports reliability & owner satisfaction ratings, and a report on depreciation. It came down to the Edge & the CR-V. Then I thought about which would most likely last for 15 years, and remembered my 03 Pilot,which is still in the family.
If I wasn't hung up on the AWD implementation, I'd probably go with a CR-V too. That 1.5T is utter magic. Gaia friendliness with no downside, except maybe redline.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 28, 2018, 05:40:48 PM
i looked at:
Outback
CR-V
Highlander
Sorrento
Santa Fe Sport
Murano
Edge
Q5
X3
For each model I looked at the price high & low. Cargo capacity max & min. Mpg: city/combined/highway. 0-60. Consumer Reports reliability & owner satisfaction ratings, and a report on depreciation. It came down to the Edge & the CR-V. Then I thought about which would most likely last for 15 years, and remembered my 03 Pilot,which is still in the family.
God damn, did you write a Python script :lol:
You jest but maybe we should all collaborate on such a thing. Call it AutoDecree. "Something is wrong with this script... it keeps recommending the CR-V" :lol:
I think it was the right choice. If it were the previous gen I would have looked at something else, but the current CR-V is about as nice as anything damn near 2x the price. Why didn't you look at the RDX though? With the new one coming I'm sure they'd have cut a deal. And it addresses my only gripe with the CR-V (horsepower).
No actual test drives?
Was it built in Ohio?
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 29, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
God damn, did you write a Python script :lol:
My curse (and blessing - it's made me a good living)... is that I over-analyze everything. Once we realized we were not interested in a luxury or near-luxury brand, it became pure left-brain stuff.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
My curse (and blessing - it's made me a good living)... is that I over-analyze everything. Once we realized we were not interested in a luxury or near-luxury brand, it became pure left-brain stuff.
We should open a home appliance subforum.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on January 29, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
We should open a home appliance
Let's keep this civil please.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
My curse (and blessing - it's made me a good living)... is that I over-analyze everything. Once we realized we were not interested in a luxury or near-luxury brand, it became pure left-brain stuff.
It's OK, I made spreadsheets for most of my recent auto purchases. Lesson learned, GIGO
I keep a GSheets workbook, logging dates, mileage, work done, by whom, and cost.
Two sheets now end with "Collision - Total Loss" - first was my daughter's Scion four years ago.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 29, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
It's OK, I made spreadsheets for most of my recent auto purchases. Lesson learned, GIGO
Did you have a 25 point column for "Gotta Have It" that put the Civic on top? ;)
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
My curse (and blessing - it's made me a good living)... is that I over-analyze everything. Once we realized we were not interested in a luxury or near-luxury brand, it became pure left-brain stuff.
Most all near-luxury and luxury vehicles are just not very good.
Quote from: Laconian on January 28, 2018, 09:31:36 PM
If I wasn't hung up on the AWD implementation, I'd probably go with a CR-V too. That 1.5T is utter magic. Gaia friendliness with no downside, except maybe redline.
It would be fun for Honda to bolt two of those 1.5Ts together to become a bonkers high-revving 380HP V8 3.0T. Then put it in an AWD coupe.
(They had a Civic Type R in the showroom - it looks like something cobbled up by a spotty herbert living with his mum, on the dole, on a South London sink estate.)
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
It would be fun for Honda to bolt two of those 1.5Ts together to become a bonkers high-revving 380HP V8 3.0T. Then put it in an AWD coupe.
(They had a Civic Type R in the showroom - it looks like something cobbled up by a spotty herbert living with his mum, on the dole, on a South London sink estate.)
It's tragic how overdone the CTR body is. Teenagers can't afford a $36,000 hot hatch. :cry:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on January 29, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
We should open a home appliance subforum.
How to purchase cars like a toaster?
Quote from: r0tor on January 29, 2018, 01:15:37 PM
How to purchase cars like a toaster?
Exactly. Eliminate all subjective factors.
Quote from: Laconian on January 29, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Did you have a 25 point column for "Gotta Have It" that put the Civic on top? ;)
That's how I choose BMWs every time.
Quote from: Laconian on January 29, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Did you have a 25 point column for "Gotta Have It" that put the Civic on top? ;)
There generally is some kind of BS subjective column. I don't think I compared the Civic with anything besides the Si though :facepalm:
Sounds like we might need a CRV envy support group subforum.
Quote from: Lebowski on January 29, 2018, 01:50:05 PM
Sounds like we might need a CRV envy support group subforum.
As well as a CRV Haterade subforum.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 29, 2018, 01:58:34 PM
As well as a CRV Haterade
One and the same. The CRV haters are the most envious, they can't take that it's objectively a better product than most of what's out there esp from the luxury brands.
El Camino >> CR-V
53 year old Chevy pickup>>>CR-V. :lol:
See, that's what I mean. The best option isn't always the most practical.
Quote from: Lebowski on January 29, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
One and the same. The CRV haters are the most envious, they can't take that it's objectively a better product than most of what's out there esp from the luxury brands.
This is actually true.
Quote from: Lebowski on January 29, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
One and the same. The CRV haters are the most envious, they can't take that it's objectively a better product than most of what's out there esp from the luxury brands.
:golfclap: :golfclap: :golfclap:
Hey, I'd love to have a brand new CR-V. If somebody gave me one. At which point I'd sell it and buy a '69 Roadrunner or something. :praise:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on January 29, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
We should open a home appliance subforum.
If you like I'll post a pic of the electric motor that assists the steering - reminds me of the one in a broken Eureka vacuum cleaner I stripped for fun.
The 1.5L engine is clever. So it's a bit right-brainish there.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 11:20:28 AM
I keep a GSheets workbook, logging dates, mileage, work done, by whom, and cost.
:mask: Me too. I also keep a small notebook in the glove box.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 29, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
If you like I'll post a pic of the electric motor that assists the steering - reminds me of the one in a broken Eureka vacuum cleaner I stripped for fun.
The 1.5L engine is clever. So it's a bit right-brainish there.
I think it's a very good choice. Just not very "exciting" so to speak.
Quote from: Lebowski on January 29, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
One and the same. The CRV haters are the most envious, they can't take that it's objectively a better product than most of what's out there esp from the luxury brands.
Good vehicle with a good engine. Nothing against the CRV, Andrew made a sound purchase. I love Honda, and some of my favourite vehicles I've owned were Hondas. It just hate their current styling.
Quote from: shp4man on January 29, 2018, 07:37:06 AM
Was it built in Ohio?
Yes - East Liberty Auto Plant.
I had tint film put on the front door windows today - cuts a bit of glare & heat.
But - uh oh - the right blindspot alert is now throwing an error - wonder if there's something wrong with the sensor. It's supposedly mounted sidefacing in the rear bumper. So much for Honda reliability.
Lemon it. Get X3. Repent from your sins.
The problem has not recurred. Is there any conceivable scenario in which window film would mess up this otherwise perfect example of automotive excellence?
Yes, sometimes an obstacle can interfere when the system attempts to calibrate. Our Subaru throws an error if there's something like a bush touching the the bumper.
Snow/ice buildup?
Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. Otherwise it's been very liberating to have some decent trunk space.
And I guess the other thought I've had is how carmakers are now putting in amazing and engrossing wizardry in the center stack. Then, to offset all those attention-sucking goodies, put in yet more wizardry to stop you smashing into those around you.
Quote from: Galaxy on February 02, 2018, 11:36:13 AM
In Georgia?
We have some in how neighboring state. It gets frosty in the mornings
This thing feels sure footed & planted considering how high it sits - more fun than the Mercedes that flopped with body flex.
Noticing the torquey little engine too; it has no problem on the hills & curves (I saw they're putting it in the Accord.)
I'm really happy with the window film on the front doors - it's 40%, so lets through a tad more light than the usual 35% but it still blocks all the UV & heat. Looks better from the outside IMO.
On a psychological note: what sold the car to my wife, who had been meh about the whole thing, was when she sat in it for the first time. The pleasant interior sealed the deal.
That interior punches above its weight class for sure. Puts the regular mainstream interior champs (VW and Kia) to shame.
Wow, when it's cold, this engine sounds like a bag of old rusty nails from the outside. All that DI clatter, like an old London diesel taxi.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 07, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Wow, when it's cold, this engine sounds like a bag of old rusty nails from the outside. All that DI clatter, like an old London diesel taxi.
Shoulda got one of those SL's I posted.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 07, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Wow, when it's cold, this engine sounds like a bag of old rusty nails from the outside. All that DI clatter, like an old London diesel taxi.
Welcome to the modern ICE Euro-6 compliant widget.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 07, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Wow, when it's cold, this engine sounds like a bag of old rusty nails from the outside. All that DI clatter, like an old London diesel taxi.
IIRC, you live in/by Atlanta right? How cold can it possibly get?
Sometimes with new vehicles, people get fixated on some oddball characteristic a vehicle has, and get terrified they got a lemon. Seen it a million times. The "fix" is hearing another one with the same powertrain on cold start. If the 2nd one is the same, then skip merrily along into Honda owner Nirvana. ;)
Quote from: Xer0 on February 07, 2018, 11:46:40 AM
IIRC, you live in/by Atlanta right? How cold can it possibly get?
It gets cold down here man. We had a stretch in the teens that lasted a couple of weeks. Plus human cold <> engine cold.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 07, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
Welcome to the modern ICE Euro-6 compliant widget.
Yep. I hear it in the BMW fours too.
Good to know the Subaru isn't the only tractor out there. Tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 07, 2018, 11:59:43 AM
It gets cold down here man. We had a stretch in the teens that lasted a couple of weeks. Plus human cold <> engine cold.
Cold with no snow is a miserable way to live.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 07, 2018, 10:04:44 AM
Wow, when it's cold, this engine sounds like a bag of old rusty nails from the outside. All that DI clatter, like an old London diesel taxi.
Is this within the first 30-40 seconds or so, and then it disappears?
The G does this as well. I can't find a good source explaining what is happening, but speculation is the ECU plays around with timing and/or firing order to speed the warm up process.
All engines sound different when they're nice and cold. Welcome to winter. :huh:
It's also probably got really light 0w oil in it too
Quote from: 2o6 on February 07, 2018, 05:18:45 PM
It's also probably got really light 0w oil in it too
Probably. I'd bet 99% of new cars do.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 07, 2018, 07:37:05 PM
Probably. I'd bet 99% of new cars do.
Last time I bought oil I saw there was some crazy 20k mile oil from Mobil 1.
Quote from: Laconian on February 07, 2018, 02:40:38 PM
Good to know the Subaru isn't the only tractor out there. Tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka
The Mazda3 rental I had sounded pretty agricultural at idle too :mask:
It still kind of depresses me that uncorked BMW I6s sound like school buses now.
Quote from: Laconian on February 07, 2018, 02:40:38 PM
Good to know the Subaru isn't the only tractor out there. Tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka tacka
:wub:
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 07, 2018, 04:32:05 PM
All engines sound different when they're nice and cold. Welcome to winter. :huh:
+5
Plus the suspension squeaks and is rough.
0w oil, GDI, and cold metal means the car will likely sound bad until warm.
Modern cars in Ohio sound like absolute ass below freezing.
Still liking the CR-V. Learned that the cabin has active noise cancellation. It does seem pretty quiet.
They put that in all through the range from the base LX upwards.
Three weeks in. Random thoughts:
- Did a tankful-to-tankful MPG check and it came to 28.1.
- 11 gallons of regular is $8.00 cheaper than 11 gal of premium at the gas station down the road. It's nice not to need premium.
- We've still not figured out all the goodies of the infotainment system.
- It's a delight to drive on the curvy hilly roads - solid & well planted.
- The engine is a gem: pulls like a steam locomotive.
- If you love CVTs, this one is a standout among CVTs. I'd prefer a modern discreet ratio slushbox.
- Shut lines, panel gaps and panel alignment get a B+ vs A+ for the late Mercedes.
- The reversing lights are the only incandescents in the tail light clusters - why?
- The cross traffic alert on the rear camera is a godsend.
- I love the dynamic cruise control. Weird to glue on to the car in front; accelerate, brake, and stop in unison.
- Not so sure about the lane keep assist - I think that should be reserved for highways.
- Tank capacity is a meager 12 gal. 15 would be more like it.
Glad to hear you like it. Personally I am a fan of CVTs on the street. When they are fed adequate power for the application and programmed well they really get it done. The CVTs in the last Accord and current Maxima were awesome. But that's a small niggle.
12 gal? Huh, that is pretty small, but if you're getting 28mpg (300+ miles per tank) that's not too bad.
12 gallon is pretty damn small.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 17, 2018, 09:20:28 AM
12 gallon is pretty damn small.
Much sacrifice had to be made. The CRV is clearly a piece of junk for poors.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 17, 2018, 09:32:29 AM
Much sacrifice had to be made. The CRV is clearly a piece of junk for
I may have to rethink my entire opinion of the CRV. I didn't realize the tank was so small.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 17, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
I may have to rethink my entire opinion of the CRV. I didn't realize the tank was so small.
Meh, 300 miles of cruising on the highway is usually a good time to take a break anyways.
Could be like me...I have a 17.X gallon tank and am lucky if I get 250 miles before needing a refill.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 17, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
Meh, 300 miles of cruising on the highway is usually a good time to take a break anyways.
Could be like me...I have a 17.X gallon tank and am lucky if I get 250 miles before needing a refill.
I know, I'm kidding. I just can't remember ever having a car with a tank that small, even my old Prelude. But with the CRV's gas mileage the range actually isn't bad.
I think the Civic's tank was like 11 gallons tops
I don't like to take breaks on road trips. When I drove the Z back from NYC to NC I stopped for like 5 minutes, took a piss and had a 5 hour energy. I think I'd make a good endurance racer
Glad to hear you like it. I've been seeing a lot of them around and they all look great. I would prob go for one if I were shopping for something in that class.
But the Mazda CX5 also looks terrific.....
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 17, 2018, 10:07:39 AM
I think the Civic's tank was like 11 gallons tops
I don't like to take breaks on road trips. When I drove the Z back from NYC to NC I stopped for like 5 minutes, took a piss and had a 5 hour energy. I think I'd make a good endurance racer
I'm with ya. A4 could get 480+ miles on a tank on the highway easy, 500 if I wanted. Made trips downstate a breeze. Only ever had to stop to pee as my destination is 450 miles from here. I've got a rhythm with the truck now. I make the same fill up stops every time.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 17, 2018, 09:20:28 AM
12 gallon is pretty damn small.
Agreed. C&D got 32 real-world highway MPG. Assuming you run it down to one gal remaining, that's about 360 miles.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 17, 2018, 10:07:39 AM
I think the Civic's tank was like 11 gallons tops
I don't like to take breaks on road trips. When I drove the Z back from NYC to NC I stopped for like 5 minutes, took a piss and had a 5 hour energy. I think I'd make a good endurance racer
I don't like to take long breaks either but if you stop to recycle coffee, filling up the tank doesn't take much extra time.
That's what is great about the G - 20 gallon tank, and if I played nice on the highway, could get 450 mile range, without having to drain it to the last drop.
I hate with a burning, searing passion, having to get gas.
Quote from: GoCougs on February 17, 2018, 01:26:32 PM
That's what is great about the G - 20 gallon tank, and if I played nice on the highway, could get 450 mile range, without having to drain it to the last drop.
I hate with a burning, searing passion, having to get gas.
I've never understood the huge hate for getting gas. Like...it's not that big of a deal...? It's like crying because you have to get a hair cut.
(Granted, I live in a rural area with plenty of gas stations that rarely have lines)
Quote from: GoCougs on February 17, 2018, 01:26:32 PM
That's what is great about the G - 20 gallon tank, and if I played nice on the highway, could get 450 mile range, without having to drain it to the last drop.
I hate with a burning, searing passion, having to get gas.
Hygiene obsessives will tell you that gas pump handles are petri dishes of various horrific pathogens and other unmentionable things.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 17, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
Hygiene obsessives will tell you that gas pump handles are petri dishes of various horrific pathogens and other unmentionable things.
Germophobia kills.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 17, 2018, 01:32:49 PM
I've never understood the huge hate for getting gas. Like...it's not that big of a deal...? It's like crying because you have to get a hair cut.
(Granted, I live in a rural area with plenty of gas stations that rarely have lines)
+1. The M5 with its ridiculously low range (200-240 miles) annoys me a tiny bit but these days with kids and the wife the peeing/stretching legs range is less than any car's range.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 17, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
Hygiene obsessives will tell you that gas pump handles are petri dishes of various horrific pathogens and other unmentionable things.
That's why I always splash some petrol on my hands after I finish topping up the car. Kills any bacteria or virus that may be on the handle.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 17, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
+1. The M5 with its ridiculously low range (200-240 miles) annoys me a tiny bit but these days with kids and the wife the peeing/stretching legs range is less than any car's range.
This is what EV advocates argue: 200-240 miles is the bladder-optimal range, so why sweat over a Tesla not doing 400 miles on a charge?
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 17, 2018, 03:35:30 PM
This is what EV advocates argue: 200-240 miles is the bladder-optimal range, so why sweat over a Tesla not doing 400 miles on a charge?
Because it doesn't take 3 hours to take a piss (ie, charge an EV)?
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 17, 2018, 09:51:58 AM
Meh, 300 miles of cruising on the highway is usually a good time to take a break anyways.
Could be like me...I have a 17.X gallon tank and am lucky if I get 250 miles before needing a refill.
Or take a :pee:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 17, 2018, 10:07:39 AM
I think the Civic's tank was like 11 gallons tops
I don't like to take breaks on road trips. When I drove the Z back from NYC to NC I stopped for like 5 minutes, took a piss and had a 5 hour energy. I think I'd make a good endurance racer
Same here! I hate traveling with people that need to stop every damn hour! I stop for gas when I hit a quarter tank and keep on trucking....
Quote from: MX793 on February 17, 2018, 03:17:59 PM
That's why I always splash some petrol on my hands after I finish topping up the car. Kills any bacteria or virus that may be on the handle.
That seems counterproductive. Now you have benzene on your hands. The bacteria your immune system can handle.
LOLS
Impreza has 12gal I believe, but best I get is 25mpg. When I drive down to Scranton and back I can totally stop in different places in Odyssey than Impreza. Cuz I get about 25mpg on highway cruise control in Odyssey too, but it has a 20gal tank.
El Camino has like 14-15 gallons but I never fill it up all the way (the pumps won't stop automatically for some reason) so I have to fill up every 150 miles or so. Around town I think I fill up every other block.
I've got roof rails on the CR-V. So now I'm nosing around looking for crossbars for those Home Depot runs etc. Initial Googles get me $500+ Thule or Yakima. I don't think so.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 18, 2018, 05:45:20 AM
I've got roof rails on the CR-V. So now I'm nosing around looking for crossbars for those Home Depot runs etc. Initial Googles get me $500+ Thule or Yakima. I don't think so.
etrailer.
3-d print your own
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 18, 2018, 05:45:20 AM
I've got roof rails on the CR-V. So now I'm nosing around looking for crossbars for those Home Depot runs etc. Initial Googles get me $500+ Thule or Yakima. I don't think so.
Vastly overpriced, esp. Thule stuff, it's also not super well made (I have both Thule roof ski and hitch bike racks).
Lots of stuff used on eBay (still way more expensive than it should be).
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 18, 2018, 09:19:14 AM
Lol, who has a working area that big?
Someone did a whole car body. He can manage a 5 foot pole
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 18, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
Someone did a whole car body. He can manage a 5 foot pole
Not with a normal rig. There are a few super big printers, but they're few and far between.
My Mendel can do 18 inches in one direction, but its been hacked together badly.
What he could do would be mounts that accepted say a 3/4" conduit.
What are you planning to strap to the roof? 🤔
https://www.amazon.com/BRIGHTLINES-2017-2018-Honda-Cross-Racks/dp/B075Y12Q5F
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 18, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
Not with a normal rig. There are a few super big printers, but they're few and far between.
My Mendel can do 18 inches in one direction, but its been hacked together badly.
What he could do would be mounts that accepted say a 3/4" conduit.
Unless it was done in pieces and then the sections were bonded together (we do that with our 3D printer at work when we need something bigger than the build chamber can manage).
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/bike-tools-transport/bike-transport/bike-roof-mount-cargo-cases
Thule bars for $80 each and a pack of 4 ft for $150. Locks are optional and extra.
EDIT
Or call them and get the exact right foot pack to go with the glorious CR-V.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 18, 2018, 06:46:24 AM
etrailer.
That's where I got my snowblower carrier. Was happy with them.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 17, 2018, 03:35:30 PM
This is what EV advocates argue: 200-240 miles is the bladder-optimal range, so why sweat over a Tesla not doing 400 miles on a charge?
Exactly. Drive 200 miles, stretch your legs, take a leak, wait 11 hours, and then be on your merry way.
Quote from: Raza on February 20, 2018, 08:07:57 AM
Exactly. Drive 200 miles, stretch your legs, take a leak, wait 11 hours, and then be on your merry way.
THATS THE ISSUE......... :nutty:
DC fast charge is 90 miles per half hour on the Bolt. Some pause but not insurmountable.
Quote from: Laconian on February 20, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
DC fast charge is 90 miles per half hour on the Bolt. Some pause but not insurmountable.
So a trip to my brother's house would take me an extra ~2.5 hours. Sounds so great.
You are describing a trip from Michigan to San Francisco, right?
Sounds reasonable to me. Gotta eat and pee sometime.
Quote from: Laconian on February 20, 2018, 04:43:40 PM
You are describing a trip from Michigan to San Francisco, right?
Sounds reasonable to me. Gotta eat and pee sometime.
No, a 450 mile trip from one place in Michigan to another.
Charging will get there. IT's not there now but it will get there in time.
It still cracks me up that Tesla has a charger in Evanston, Wyoming. At the hotel.
You could charge up enough to get to the next city but that's it. :lol: Locals won't be parking at that hotel, it's not close enough to walk to any work.
Seriously, go look it up when you get bored. Park City UT is like 45min away at 75mph. Fort Bridger WY has nothing. Green River WY is about the same size as Evanston, 10-14k people. But it's like 70miles away.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 21, 2018, 05:32:56 AM
It still cracks me up that Tesla has a charger in Evanston, Wyoming. At the hotel.
You could charge up enough to get to the next city but that's it. :lol: Locals won't be parking at that hotel, it's not close enough to walk to any work.
Seriously, go look it up when you get bored. Park City UT is like 45min away at 75mph. Fort Bridger WY has nothing. Green River WY is about the same size as Evanston, 10-14k people. But it's like 70miles away.
The Tesla network is set up precisely so that you can get from one station to the next station, for someone who decides that a road trip is the best fit for their EV's skill set.
Quote from: Laconian on February 20, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
DC fast charge is 90 miles per half hour on the Bolt. Some pause but not insurmountable.
That's pretty disruptive on a road trip.
Thinking about the energy involved for a fast charge, IDK. Tesla has an 85kWh 375V battery. To charge that in 15 minutes, according to my calculation, you'd need damn near 1000A. That's like the feed coming into your house at 3x higher voltage. If the connector is anything less than perfect people will def die. So there may be a limit to how fast shit can charge just on the basis of safety. OSHA doesn't even want you looking at an electrical panel with that kind of energy flowing.... connecting/disconnecting is a 100% :nono:
Quote from: Lebowski on February 22, 2018, 07:45:40 AM
That's pretty disruptive on a road trip.
And assumes there are fast chargers along your entire trip. Though the availability is much better than it was even 5 years ago.
Quote from: ifcar on February 22, 2018, 06:16:33 AM
The Tesla network is set up precisely so that you can get from one station to the next station, for someone who decides that a road trip is the best fit for their EV's skill set.
LOL it would only take you 10x? longer to get across Wyoming using pure electricity...
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 22, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
Thinking about the energy involved for a fast charge, IDK. Tesla has an 85kWh 375V battery. To charge that in 15 minutes, according to my calculation, you'd need damn near 1000A. That's like the feed coming into your house at 3x higher voltage. If the connector is anything less than perfect people will def die. So there may be a limit to how fast shit can charge just on the basis of safety. OSHA doesn't even want you looking at an electrical panel with that kind of energy flowing.... connecting/disconnecting is a 100% :nono:
Wireless charging needs to be a thing. I saw a few years back Utah college had one that charged 90+% efficiently at 18inches from charging pad. Big issue was if someone with a pacemaker stepped across it they might die..
Yea, unless they could focus that energy into a beam (rail gun? LOL) the EM field for that kind of charging would be crazy.
Quote from: MX793 on February 22, 2018, 08:18:03 AM
And assumes there are fast chargers along your entire trip. Though the availability is much better than it was even 5 years ago.
Yeah, i imagine you'd have to plan your route based on fast charger availability? Another big inconvenience.
I could see an electric car as one car in a 2 car household, but at this stage I'd definitely want at least one car in the household that can do long trips.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 22, 2018, 09:30:37 AM
Yeah, i imagine you'd have to plan your route based on fast charger availability? Another big inconvenience.
I could see an electric car as one car in a 2 car household, but at this stage I'd definitely want at least one car in the household that can do long trips.
:hesaid:
Electric cars are here for urban/local mobility if you can get a home charger. Those scenarios are in my opinion, solved and more appealing every day. Long trips: not yet and I think it will take several years, even a decade or more for that to really work to the point of being viable for a single vehicle family.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 22, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Yea, unless they could focus that energy into a beam (rail gun? LOL) the EM field for that kind of charging would be crazy.
Focused masers from space satellites
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 22, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Yea, unless they could focus that energy into a beam (rail gun? LOL) the EM field for that kind of charging would be crazy.
Long range that might work. The next 10-20yrs? Charging while parked at work, home, grocery store, etc...
The bus study I saw they would sit at certain stops for 20min anyway, and that was enough to get them charged up enough for another trip around their designated loop.
NFC charging stages across all highways. Charge as you drive past them.
Quote from: Raza on February 22, 2018, 11:41:50 AM
NFC charging stages across all highways. Charge as you drive past them.
Giant recharger trucks for your autonomous car to link to and charge while you drive
Quick replaceable batteries would be easier.
How about some sort of liquid that can hold a lot of energy?
Oops.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 22, 2018, 07:03:35 PM
How about some sort of liquid that can hold a lot of energy?
Oops.
:lol:
I don't know. Is the U.S. electrical grid have enough capacity to charge all the cars on the road right now daily? What about even 1/4 of the cars?
Quote from: veeman on February 23, 2018, 09:43:41 AM
I don't know. Is the U.S. electrical grid have enough capacity to charge all the cars on the road right now daily? What about even 1/4 of the cars?
We definitely have the capacity. Here is a diagram I made showing how it would work.
(http://i.imgur.com/AKNY6FG.png)
:lol: I love that information. Very astute and timely. We must syngergize to keep up that positive energy.
But is the blue area large enough for everyone to charge?
I'm sure / I hope the power companies have calculated that.
Car charging is dream demand for utilities as it would allow them to operate steadily 24/7. If that demand came on board they would accommodate it quickly. But there is definitely free capacity in the meantime.
Early morning at the fitness center. Cayenne: clean & unadorned. CR-V: chrome, frippery, light cluster weirdness.
(https://s26.postimg.org/dkizylkft/IMG_2358.jpg)
Damn, Porsche looks downmarket next to the CRV. Just imagine that poor sap's CRVenvy when he comes out to his car and sees them side by side.
You joke but in that picture the Cayenne does not look anywhere near 2-3x the price of the CR-V. I know there's more to it than that but that is a big part of it.
Really looking forward to the RDX.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 25, 2018, 06:33:47 AM
Damn, Porsche looks downmarket next to the CRV. Just imagine that poor sap's CRVenvy when he comes out to his car and sees them side by side.
I was thinking about depreciation. I know we bought the CR-V new, which is a sin in financial planning circles (wanted
all the very latest safety goodies I could get.) But its depreciation curve is nowhere near as brutal as buying a luxury brand. There's a ready marked for used middle-market cars. But who wants to buy then pay the repair bills on a seven-year old Porsche or Audi?
(We learned this lesson when we got the insurance check for the CLK)
Rear end of the CR-V is the head of this guy
(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Robotech.jpg)
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 25, 2018, 10:33:55 AM
I was thinking about depreciation. I know we bought the CR-V new, which is a sin in financial planning circles (wanted all the very latest safety goodies I could get.) But its depreciation curve is nowhere near as brutal as buying a luxury brand. There's a ready marked for used middle-market cars. But who wants to buy then pay the repair bills on a seven-year old Porsche or Audi?
(We learned this lesson when we got the insurance check for the CLK)
If you are planning on buying a new car, it totally makes sense if:
-you plan on owning it awhile after it's paid off. Which means it's nicer to
-get all the goodies you want. Which also helps if you bought a car which
-retains resale value
AND you get the advantage of knowing the mechanical history. Well-maintained it should go for a long long time. (See the Odometer thread on my Odyssey. We bought it with 168k miles from the first owner who got EVERYTHING done at the dealership.)
Eh, buying new and changing often can "make sense" if you can afford it. CR-V has full sized pickup truck resale strength... replacing every 3 years probably doesn't cost too much, especially in a popular trim + color.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2018, 07:43:57 AM
If you are planning on buying a new car, it totally makes sense if:
-you plan on owning it awhile after it's paid off. Which means it's nicer to
-get all the goodies you want. Which also helps if you bought a car which
-retains resale value
AND you get the advantage of knowing the mechanical history. Well-maintained it should go for a long long time. (See the Odometer thread on my Odyssey. We bought it with 168k miles from the first owner who got EVERYTHING done at the dealership.)
I'm 61 & my wife's 62. We are just coming out of the age group that has the lowest rate of car crashes; there's a gentle risk trend upwards into our early 70s, then a hockey stick upward jump starting in our mid-70s. Long story short; I thought this would be good choice to age with as a long-term hold: not too big, high hip height, safety & driver assist goodies, good interior space, low running cost, AWD, reliable.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 26, 2018, 09:11:11 AM
I'm 61 & my wife's 62. We are just coming out of the age group that has the lowest rate of car crashes; there's a gentle risk trend upwards into our early 70s, then a hockey stick upward jump starting in our mid-70s. Long story short; I thought this would be good choice to age with as a long-term hold: not too big, high hip height, safety & driver assist goodies, good interior space, low running cost, AWD, reliable.
Oh I think you made the best purchase possible! I'm jealous and would buy the same thing in a couple years if I could afford it, I'm only 42. Right now we frequently need 3 rows. Once the kids are on their own I want to down-size out of minivan-land.
Wife had always driven little cars before Odyssey and was resistant until she started driving it. Just today she asked if she could take Odyssey to appointment because her back is bugging her and mine is not as bad so I drove Impreza. Difference in comfort level is noticeable.
CR-V vs. Accord
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research-guides/car-compare-2018-honda-accord-and-2018-honda-cr-v/ar-BBJB8qd?li=BBisPVf&ocid=ientp
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 25, 2018, 10:33:55 AM
I was thinking about depreciation. I know we bought the CR-V new, which is a sin in financial planning circles (wanted all the very latest safety goodies I could get.) But its depreciation curve is nowhere near as brutal as buying a luxury brand. There's a ready marked for used middle-market cars. But who wants to buy then pay the repair bills on a seven-year old Porsche or Audi?
(We learned this lesson when we got the insurance check for the CLK)
I don't think buying new is a sin, as long as you plan to keep it awhile.
Buying used can be a significantly larger outlay of time, which is worth money. When buying new its easy to get exactly what you want, you don't have to worry about whether it's been maintained etc. I plan to continue buying most of our cars new, although if there's a used option (up when we're looking to buy) from someone I know that maintains their cars well I'll always be willing to consider it. Going to a used car lot, or scouring autotrader, doesn't appeal to me and I'll generally pay the new car premium to avoid that.
Quote from: Lebowski on February 26, 2018, 05:28:54 PM
I don't think buying new is a sin, as long as you plan to keep it awhile.
Buying used can be a significantly larger outlay of time, which is worth money. When buying new its easy to get exactly what you want, you don't have to worry about whether it's been maintained etc. I plan to continue buying most of our cars new, although if there's a used option (up when we're looking to buy) from someone I know that maintains their cars well I'll always be willing to consider it. Going to a used car lot, or scouring autotrader, doesn't appeal to me and I'll generally pay the new car premium to avoid that.
Totally depends on the resale value of the car, too. A lot of the cars worth buying (CR-V) don't depreciate enough to make the gently used option all that much cheaper than the brand-new car.
Only on a car forum do people frown upon buying a new car... :confused:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 26, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
CR-V vs. Accord
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research-guides/car-compare-2018-honda-accord-and-2018-honda-cr-v/ar-BBJB8qd?li=BBisPVf&ocid=ientp
Really interesting. My neighbor just bought his son a new Accord - base trim with the 1.5T engine. Son had been driving a beater... really bright - got lots of scholarships and saved Dad a shitload - took the $$ out of the college fund.
Anyway they're blown away by the Accord. They just can't believe the refinement & driving dynamics. Right up there with their X3.
C&D gushes about the Accord too.
Accords are very good vehicles. I have two customers that swear by them and I like detailing and driving them.
My parents bought an Accord and like it more than the Camrys they've owned.
I love 2015 Accord Sports. Such a nice design.
Too bad we don't get the manual Accord here. It would be a great DD. That for me, a CR-V for Monika and I can sell all the unreliable german crap!
Bah, you guys deserve the best: RDX and TLX.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 26, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
Only on a car forum do people frown upon buying a new car... :confused:
:nutty:
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 26, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
Only on a car forum do people frown upon buying a new car... :confused:
What's strange about that? Most people buy used cars. And used cars today are better than they've ever been :huh:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 26, 2018, 05:35:08 PM
Totally depends on the resale value of the car, too. A lot of the cars worth buying (CR-V) don't depreciate enough to make the gently used option all that much cheaper than the brand-new car.
Yeah, same with 4Runners.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 27, 2018, 06:50:33 AM
What's strange about that? Most people buy used cars. And used cars today are better than they've ever been :huh:
Not denying that...I bought a 10 year old truck with 126k miles on it. lol
I just think it's strange that some of you are so averse to a new car. If someone wants to buy a new car...that's great. Having a brand new car is awesome. We should be encouraging it. Not delving into financial bullshit and this weird guilt tripping. :huh:
Wanna buy used? Buy used. Wanna buy new? Buy new. Who cares.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 27, 2018, 06:50:33 AM
What's strange about that? Most people buy used cars. And used cars today are better than they've ever been :huh:
LOL at your profile quote.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 27, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
Not denying that...I bought a 10 year old truck with 126k miles on it. lol
I just think it's strange that some of you are so averse to a new car. If someone wants to buy a new car...that's great. Having a brand new car is awesome. We should be encouraging it. Not delving into financial bullshit and this weird guilt tripping. :huh:
Wanna buy used? Buy used. Wanna buy new? Buy new. Who cares.
No, no. This is a political forum first and a financial responsibility forum second. Cars are a distant third.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 27, 2018, 01:10:54 PM
No, no. This is a political forum first and a financial responsibility forum second. Cars are a distant third.
BULLSHIT! Cars are fourth behind that damn CR-V.......... :partyon:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 27, 2018, 01:10:54 PM
No, no. This is a political forum first and a financial responsibility forum second. Cars are a distant third.
It's all interconnected. CRV is the perfect car and also financially sane.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 27, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
Not denying that...I bought a 10 year old truck with 126k miles on it. lol
I just think it's strange that some of you are so averse to a new car. If someone wants to buy a new car...that's great. Having a brand new car is awesome. We should be encouraging it. Not delving into financial bullshit and this weird guilt tripping. :huh:
Wanna buy used? Buy used. Wanna buy new? Buy new. Who cares.
Who is against buying new cars? Everyone congratulated Morris on his purchase. People are against shit financial decisions.... used or new. If you put your business out here it's gonna get judged. That's how it goes :huh:
I don't get that either, nobody railed against buying new :huh:
Quote from: Lebowski on February 28, 2018, 06:46:35 AM
It's all interconnected. CRV is the perfect car and also financially sane.
We found our holy grail.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 25, 2018, 05:45:44 AM
Early morning at the fitness center. Cayenne: clean & unadorned. CR-V: chrome, frippery, light cluster weirdness.
(https://s26.postimg.org/dkizylkft/IMG_2358.jpg)
The Porsche was there again today.
It has a vanity plate: "BETTER"
I like that.
I'm guessing the two other cars in his stable have: "GOOD" and "BEST"
Quote from: Lebowski on February 28, 2018, 08:41:31 AM
I don't get that either, nobody railed against buying new :huh:
+1
My last four car purchases have all been new, never got any grief about it. :huh:
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on February 27, 2018, 09:39:19 PM
BULLSHIT! Cars are fourth behind that damn CR-V.......... :partyon:
It's what Spinners CRAVE!
(https://myzencupcake.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/476-a.jpg)
Quote from: SJ_GTI on February 28, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
+1
My last four car purchases have all been new, never got any grief about it. :huh:
If you were poor I would have tried to grief you. :huh: :lol:
It's just a little CUV, but it's liberating to finally be able to carry bulky stuff around.
(https://s10.postimg.org/xcwzw17fd/IMG_2407.jpg)
And room to spare for a German Shepherd or two.
Quote from: Lebowski on March 16, 2018, 08:43:08 AM
And room to spare for a German Shepherd or two.
So far just our little frou-frou doggie:
(https://s10.postimg.org/smawjnqkp/IMG_2403.jpg)
That's not bad for a small dog, what breed is that?
American Eskimo - basically a compact version of a German Spitz.
She (he?) feeling better?
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 17, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
She (he?) feeling better?
She is yes thanks - vet thought she's bruised/sprained something - back to normal now.
After four months with the CR-V, my impressions:
- Opening the trunk hatch with the weird spastic kicking-under-the-bumper motion is successful about 1 in 20 attempts
- A couple of cents worth of Dynamat stuck inside the rear doors would be most welcome
- I've used it in stop start traffic and the dynamic cruise control works very well. But, it's a little harsh on the brakes - enough to make passengers nervous. The camera tracks the car in front & the car latches onto that. When I'm driving I try to look at the guy two cars ahead and anticipate braking/acceleration to keep things smooth. At highway speeds I have no complaints with it.
- The lane keep assist and lane departure warning works fine. Very useful.
- The space and convenience inside is great - it's been very liberating.
- The infotainment system would take a couple of days to master in detail: you can configure just about anything to a ridiculous level of granularity. And it seems sluggish, e.g put the car in reverse and it takes an annoying second for the trajectory lines to superimpose on the display. Bottom line - use Android Auto or Apple Car Play.
- Performance is great - I love the little engine and the CVT that keeps it always in the torque & power sweet spot.
- The climate control is very unaggressive; it takes a long time to get down to your set temperature. I think this is a gas-saving thing. You typically have to turn the temperature way down temporariliy to get a cold blast to cool you off quickly.
- It's so easy to live with it's ridiculous. Lots of little details like the self-releasing parking brake. Doors that lock when you walk away. Seat that detects your key fob and adjusts to you and you get in.
Overall I'm really happy with it. The Mercedes CLK was the fun car and it was always the Infiniti that we'd been thinking about swapping out for something like spacious & practical like a CR-V. But then the CLK got totaled & here we are. When the Infiniti's time comes we might get something a bit more nimble.
Yeah I never got the hang of the trunk kick w/ the M3. It would work maybe 1/3 of the time.
Honda A/C tends to be weak. That is my only bugaboo with them, but it's a dealbreaker for me. I am OK to sacrifice some MPGs for comfort.
As for a fun replacement for the G, man if I were retired I'd love to have something like an old SL550 or 640i. Just you, the wife, trunk full of luggage, hood full of horsepower, headed off to a quaint AirBnB for the weekend.
No complaints on my A/C. Does a good job with a lot of cabin space, and I LOOOOVE the auto feature.
Quote from: Lebowski on May 10, 2018, 07:03:49 AM
Yeah I never got the hang of the trunk kick w/ the M3. It would work maybe 1/3 of the time.
Yeah my mom's car has it and it never works.
Glad you like the CRV, Morris. I'm a big fan of the ones I've been seeing on the road. I don't know what I'd get between the CR-V and the CX5 if I were shopping in this class.
I feel like the turbo CR-V would deliver a better overall driving experience. For all Honda's ubiquity they still know how to make anything fun to drive.
The cargo volume of the CR-V was a big factor vs the CX-5. I see a lot of the Mazdas around here though. They are great cars - fun to drive.
Interior space of CRV is significantly better than the CX-5 IMO. I also found the CRV interior materials and overall fit and finish to be better. CX5 is a nice vehicle, but the CRV is nicer.
CX5 feels like a coffin compared to a CRVVVV
I volunteer for some of the grunt work maintaining the trails here. What you don't see is the stream behind me that my buddy had just forded in his Wrangler. He wants me to sell the G37 and buy a manly 4X4 work truck so I can be of more use. :lol:
Anyway. thought it was a good photo.
(https://s26.postimg.cc/eyzyf3889/CR-_V_2018_copy.jpg)
Wife driving us home. Freeway speeds in heavyish rain, and this comes up on the dash. I'm beginning to wonder about this car...
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnVnHBLV/IMG-3047.jpg)
Quote from: Morris Minor on November 09, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Wife driving us home. Freeway speeds in heavyish rain, and this comes up on the dash. I'm beginning to wonder about this car...
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnVnHBLV/IMG-3047.jpg)
Radar obstructed?
Quote from: Morris Minor on November 09, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Wife driving us home. Freeway speeds in heavyish rain, and this comes up on the dash. I'm beginning to wonder about this car...
They probably all do that in rain. Nice that you're warned though!
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 09, 2018, 03:02:47 PM
They probably all do that in rain. Nice that you're warned though!
I've never had it happen in the rain. I've had some sensors blocked when snow was on my car, but once wiped off it was fine.
The Subaru does this when it's raining really hard or the windshield is dirty or fogged. Basically the measurements from the safety sensors aren't reliable enough to be useful/safe.
You need an Alfa
Quote from: Morris Minor on November 09, 2018, 02:52:03 PM
Wife driving us home. Freeway speeds in heavyish rain, and this comes up on the dash. I'm beginning to wonder about this car...
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnVnHBLV/IMG-3047.jpg)
Any car with any sort of autonomous/radar systems will do this. It's raining too hard for the sensors to see well.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 10, 2018, 07:46:02 AM
Honda A/C tends to be weak. That is my only bugaboo with them, but it's a dealbreaker for me. I am OK to sacrifice some MPGs for comfort.
As for a fun replacement for the G, man if I were retired I'd love to have something like an old SL550 or 640i. Just you, the wife, trunk full of luggage, hood full of horsepower, headed off to a quaint AirBnB for the weekend.
+100
You can get low mile, late model last generation SL's in the upper 20's now. Really, really great cruisers, useful just about all year around, and even with the top down there is room in the trunk for a big garment bag and two suitcases behind the seats.
I'm not sure I would trust MB to make PRHTs that last.
Quote from: Laconian on November 09, 2018, 03:19:46 PM
The Subaru does this when it's raining really hard or the windshield is dirty or fogged. Basically the measurements from the safety sensors aren't reliable enough to be useful/safe.
Not sure what's used for what on the CR-V but there's the center-high one on the windshield (swept by the wipers) and there's a lidar (guessing) on the grille just below the Honda "H"
Pretty sure we have the exact same system.
Cameras up by the rear view mirror are for lane keep assist (it's visually tracking the lane markers). The radar in the grill is tracking the distance of the car in front for active cruise control and emergency braking.
The CR-V intervened when I was on my way home yesterday in the rush hour. I was cruising along at about 45 when someone a couple of cars ahead jumped left into the lane and caused emergency braking by all concerned. I jammed on the brakes in a "Fuuuuck!!!" moment but the Honda did not think I'd jammed them on hard enough. The anchors came on ultra hard and stopped me a few feet from the car in front. It was a weird to feel the brake pedal mash down under my already-mashing (I'd thought) foot.
I braced myself for the rear impact but it never came. The truck two cars behind had to mount the median to avoid impact with the lady behind me.
I'm guessing the perpetrator had no idea what they'd done: the fog of stupidity.
Anyway, I was impressed,
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 28, 2019, 12:04:59 PM
The CR-V intervened when I was on my way home yesterday in the rush hour. I was cruising along at about 45 when someone a couple of cars ahead jumped left into the lane and caused emergency braking by all concerned. I jammed on the brakes in a "Fuuuuck!!!" moment but the Honda did not think I'd jammed them on hard enough. The anchors came on ultra hard and stopped me a few feet from the car in front. It was a weird to feel the brake pedal mash down under my already-mashing (I'd thought) foot.
I braced myself for the rear impact but it never came. The truck two cars behind had to mount the median to avoid impact with the lady behind me.
I'm guessing the perpetrator had no idea what they'd done: the fog of stupidity.
Anyway, I was impressed,
They should program those systems to honk and flash the lights upon hard emergency braking. :lol:
Something like 90% of people never hit the brakes hard enough in a panic stop... ///M School advice was "attempt to snap the brake pedal off"
Quote from: r0tor on February 28, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Something like 90% of people never hit the brakes hard enough in a panic stop... ///M School advice was "attempt to snap the brake pedal off"
That's why I've been rear ended 3 times, and counting ...
edit: 4 times. I forgot one.
Quote from: r0tor on February 28, 2019, 04:44:18 PM
Something like 90% of people never hit the brakes hard enough in a panic stop... ///M School advice was "attempt to snap the brake pedal off"
Yup - that's the advice my kids got in advanced driving school.
Q: You're on the highway and a refrigerator falls off a truck in front of you. What do you do?
A: Try to break off the brake pedal. Try to steer around it. Let ABS & stability control do their thing.
I don't have ABS and normally brake too hard. I'm lucky I haven't flat spotted any tires.
ABS on the KIA sucks. I don't trust it. The back gets squirrelly
Does need new brakes, fluid and tires all around though so :lol:
The beauty of the brake by wire system in the Giulia is it will make sure damn sure you hit 100% full brake potential pretty much instantly under an emergency stop... It's like deploying Krazy glue
Thing is, the hard part about Alfa ownership is getting it going
Hey now, Alfa engines don't feature the Honda self destruct design