It was a boring, lazy Sunday. So I decided to go to the Nissan dealer to look at something Millennial oriented.
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This car is a replacement for the Juke, and like the Ford Ecosport, it was primarily designed for "developing markets" like Brazil and India. It's made on a cheaper platform than European Nissans, and overall is essentially an SUV styled Versa.
+ despite only having 125HP, the Kicks is very light so real world performance is actually pretty fine.
+ the CVT automatic feels like the ECU has a fuel cut when it's fake "shifting". Instead of feeling clearly fake and syrupy like most Nissans I've driven that do this, I don't think many customers would realize it's a CVT auto
+ loads of standard features for a very low price (this car stickerd for under 21k!) and has android auto, blind spot monitoring, auto braking, etc
+ it's roomy and has a real trunk, something the Juke didn't have
+ visibility is good
+ lots of customization options (colored roofs, different wheels)
Negatives
- automatic only
- the ride is bumpy and busy. The C-HR has a multilink setup in the back and handles and rides better
- the steering has no feel whatsoever
- the Juke was quirky and compromised, but fast and fun. The Kicks has no personality to drive. It's wholly uninteresting at best.
- it's an "SUV" but like the C-HR, AWD isn't even an option. They want you to step up to the Rogue Sport/Qashqai
- I have a hard time swallowing the fact that this essentially is a Versa note for double the cost.
I drove a Murano for almost a week before realizing it was a CVT.
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- I have a hard time swallowing the fact that this essentially is a Versa note for double the cost.
Buyers don't care. They don't research. They just know it looks not like a Versa note. Same with most of your other "-" notes.
The CX3 and the HRV charge big premiums over their donor cars. Par for the course in this segment, I'm afraid.
But, is this better than the Eco-shit Ford is peddling?
Quote from: Xer0 on August 13, 2018, 07:33:01 AM
But, is this better than the Eco-shit Ford is peddling?
Light years. And it's cheaper.
Quote from: 2o6 on August 13, 2018, 02:02:09 PM
Light years. And its cheaper.
Like Teresa May is "light years" hotter than Margaret Thatcher.
Quote from: Rockraven on August 13, 2018, 02:33:59 PM
Like Teresa May is "light years" hotter than Margaret Thatcher.
LOL.
As it stands, if someone was looking for a feature packed cheap car with decent room and good economy, a Kicks wouldn't be so bad. Especially since Nissan will finance anything wth a pulse.
You can do worse.
If I was forced under threat of castration by garden shears, I'd go with the CX-3, because it's the only one I can stomach to look at, and I love Mazda interiors.
Quote from: Rockraven on August 13, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
If I was forced under threat of castration by garden shears, I'd go with the CX-3, because it's the only one I can stomach to look at, and I love Mazda interiors.
The CX-3 is way more expensive though.
Quote from: 2o6 on August 13, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
The CX-3 is way more expensive though.
At the upper end of the scale sure, but it's the one I'd go with.
Quote from: Rockraven on August 13, 2018, 03:07:56 PM
At the upper end of the scale sure, but it's the one I'd go with.
Base to base, the Kicks is like $2500 cheaper
Quote from: 2o6 on August 13, 2018, 03:16:10 PM
Base to base, the Kicks is like $2500 cheaper
$2500 well spent.
$22,825 Cdn, with a 6 speed manual. Dayum... :rockon:
https://www.mazda.ca/en/shopping-tools/build-price/#/ON/2019/CX-3
Quote from: Rockraven on August 13, 2018, 03:21:50 PM
$2500 well spent.
Is it? I've driven both, although the CX-3 is nicer, it has a really tiny interior and trunk, and I don't think it's $2500 nicer.
Also, holy shit! In Canada, that berth widens to 5k CDN difference between a base manual Cx-3 and base automatic Kicks.
Save the fact the Kicks has an 'automatic' transmission and it's an option on the CX-3, I'm pretty sure the base CX-3 GX comes about as well-equipped as the top-of-the-line Kicks SR... :huh:
Quote from: 2o6 on August 13, 2018, 03:35:03 PM
Is it? Ive driven both, although the CX-3 is nicer, it has a really tiny interior and trunk, and I dont think its $2500 nicer.
Also, holy shit! In Canada, that berth widens to 5k CDN difference between a base manual Cx-3 and base automatic Kicks.
You're comparing a new 2019 CX-3 with a "Nissan Sell-Off Event" 2018 Kicks. Still, heckuva deal.
Nissan Get This Shit Outta Here Red Tag Sales Event!
No ConservativeSPIN, it's crazy that we are getting these third world cars. I don't know if it's indicative of the progress made in car design/manufacturing that these "developing market" vehicles are acceptable here, or indicative of something more sinister in the American economy. Maybe a mix of both. Either way I want no parts of this
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on September 27, 2018, 07:32:26 AM
No ConservativeSPIN, it's crazy that we are getting these third world cars. I don't know if it's indicative of the progress made in car design/manufacturing that these "developing market" vehicles are acceptable here, or indicative of something more sinister in the American economy. Maybe a mix of both. Either way I want no parts of this
Both.
To be fair, the Kicks is actually isnt bad.