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Title: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: 2o6 on October 24, 2018, 09:43:15 AM
So far, China only, and I can't see it being sold in the US due to it's awkward sizing.


Basically, it's a small MPV that's been butched up into a Crossover Dodge Journey sized thing. It's 5+2, and longer than the Equinox, but lower to the ground and FWD only. Power comes from a new 1.3LTurbo (160HP) and goes to a 6MT or ubiquitous 6AT.


http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/09/new-chevrolet-orlando-launches-in-china/


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Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 24, 2018, 10:14:36 AM
The Orlando has been sold up here for a few years now.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: 12,000 RPM on October 24, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
Potential Soul alternative?
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Xer0 on October 24, 2018, 10:20:21 AM
These 150-180hp turbo I4s are getting smaller and smaller.  I bet this engine would be a hoot in something like the Spark.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: 2o6 on October 24, 2018, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on October 24, 2018, 10:14:36 AM
The Orlando has been sold up here for a few years now.


I think they stopped selling it a couple years ago


Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 24, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
Potential Soul alternative?

Too long, this car seats seven.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: 68_427 on October 24, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
This looks 10x better than the equinox
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: giant_mtb on October 24, 2018, 10:26:35 AM
Looks sweet.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 24, 2018, 10:29:09 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on October 24, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
This looks 10x better than the equinox
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 24, 2018, 10:26:35 AM
Looks sweet.

:hesaid:
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 24, 2018, 10:47:54 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on October 24, 2018, 10:21:20 AM

I think they stopped selling it a couple years ago


Too long, this car seats seven.


I'm not sure.

And yes, the Orlando is a lot more substantial than the Soul. I see it as an Edge competitor.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on October 24, 2018, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on October 24, 2018, 10:47:54 AM
I'm not sure.

And yes, the Orlando is a lot more substantial than the Soul. I see it as an Edge competitor.

I thought the Blazer was supposed to be the Edge competitor?
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: 2o6 on October 24, 2018, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on October 24, 2018, 11:02:52 AM
I thought the Blazer was supposed to be the Edge competitor?


Blazer = Edge


Orlando = S-Max
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 25, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
They were very much cross-shopped up here.

https://www.suvdrive.com/comparison/chevrolet-orlando-20-vcdi-163-ltz-2016-vs-ford-edge-sport-2017
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on October 26, 2018, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on October 25, 2018, 04:17:17 PM
They were very much cross-shopped up here.

https://www.suvdrive.com/comparison/chevrolet-orlando-20-vcdi-163-ltz-2016-vs-ford-edge-sport-2017

By who? They do not seem like comparable vehicles.

Edge is...

4 inches taller.
5 inches longer.
3.5 inches wider.
4 inch longer wheelbase.

It's just a bigger vehicle. They do not seem that comparable. The Edge is closer in size to a Jeep Grand Cherokee. There is no way you can compare the Orlando to such a vehicle.

The Orlando is closer in size to a Jeep Cherokee, Subaru Forester, and Honda CR-V (though shorter).
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 26, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on October 26, 2018, 07:03:46 PM
By who? They do not seem like comparable vehicles.

Edge is...

4 inches taller.
5 inches longer.
3.5 inches wider.
4 inch longer wheelbase.

It's just a bigger vehicle. They do not seem that comparable. The Edge is closer in size to a Jeep Grand Cherokee. There is no way you can compare the Orlando to such a vehicle.

The Orlando is closer in size to a Jeep Cherokee, Subaru Forester, and Honda CR-V (though shorter).

What are you comparing... new ones? The '14 Orlando was 17mm, or about 0.7 inch, shorter than the '14 Edge. The Orlando was never a great seller like the Edge, but people absolutely DID cross shop them.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on October 28, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on October 26, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
What are you comparing... new ones? The '14 Orlando was 17mm, or about 0.7 inch, shorter than the '14 Edge. The Orlando was never a great seller like the Edge, but people absolutely DID cross shop them.

Those are the size differences based on the link you provided.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 28, 2018, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on October 28, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
Those are the size differences based on the link you provided.

Ah, my bad. Anyways the Orlando hasn't been sold here for a few years now, so it's all moot.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: veeman on October 28, 2018, 09:47:47 AM
Chevrolet needs better names for their new cars.  "Orlando" sucks as a car name.  What is it supposed to convey?  Crowded, noisy, overpriced, lacking any natural beauty, fake —> great name for a new Chevy model.

I'm going again to Orlando for Thanksgiving to see Harry Potter world at Universal Studios. I had a great time last time I was there.  But it's not something that's a good SUV name which is supposed to convey something cooler than a minivan.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: veeman on October 28, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Oh but wait this SUV isn't bing sold in the U.S. so now I get it.  For the Chinese in China, Orlando is probably something cool.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Payman on October 28, 2018, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: veeman on October 28, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Oh but wait this SUV isn’t bing sold in the U.S. so now I get it.  For the Chinese in China, Orlando is probably something cool.

It conjures up images of sunshine, palm trees, and plastic faced 80 yr old crooners.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Laconian on October 28, 2018, 11:04:46 AM
Gettin' laid at Perkins
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 28, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: veeman on October 28, 2018, 09:47:47 AM
Chevrolet needs better names for their new cars.  "Orlando" sucks as a car name.  What is it supposed to convey?  Crowded, noisy, overpriced, lacking any natural beauty, fake —> great name for a new Chevy model.

I'm going again to Orlando for Thanksgiving to see Harry Potter world at Universal Studios. I had a great time last time I was there.  But it's not something that's a good SUV name which is supposed to convey something cooler than a minivan.

I'm thinking Tony Orlando and Dawn, actually.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: FoMoJo on October 28, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 28, 2018, 12:14:23 PM
I'm thinking Tony Orlando and Dawn, actually.
Me too.  They could name their next offering Tony.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on October 29, 2018, 06:40:53 AM
Orlando (name): A famous land or famous throughout the land

This is what Orlando means. So, if you think about it, it is not a bad name. The problem is that Orlando, the city, just ruins our perception of it. 
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 06:57:10 AM
Orlando is the Latinized version of the name Roland, one of Charlemagne's most famous Chevaliers.

And that's another reason it's a bad car name.  It's a person's first name.  Naming a car Orlando is the same as naming a car Robert.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 29, 2018, 08:42:26 AM
I named my Chromecast Robert
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Galaxy on October 29, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 06:57:10 AM
And that's another reason it's a bad car name.  It's a person's first name.  Naming a car Orlando is the same as naming a car Robert.

Opel Adam, and Opel Karl!
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: giant_mtb on October 29, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 06:57:10 AM
Orlando is the Latinized version of the name Roland, one of Charlemagne's most famous Chevaliers.

And that's another reason it's a bad car name.  It's a person's first name.  Naming a car Orlando is the same as naming a car Robert.

At least if the thing is Asia-only, that won't really matter since it's not a name you're gonna find in Asia.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 07:42:06 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on October 29, 2018, 02:41:08 PM
Opel Adam, and Opel Karl!

I give the Opels a pass because those are names of people associated with the history of the company (Adam being the founder and Karl his son).  I give a similar pass to the Ferrari Enzo.  Pretty sure no one named "Orlando" was a major player in the founding of Chevrolet.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 07:43:37 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on October 29, 2018, 03:40:57 PM
At least if the thing is Asia-only, that won't really matter since it's not a name you're gonna find in Asia.

Except the sold the previous model outside of Asia.  From what I can tell, the first generation was sold in practically every market except the US.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 29, 2018, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 07:42:06 PM
I give the Opels a pass because those are names of people associated with the history of the company (Adam being the founder and Karl his son).  I give a similar pass to the Ferrari Enzo.  Pretty sure no one named "Orlando" was a major player in the founding of Chevrolet.

So Louis or Gaston would be OK?
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 07:52:33 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 29, 2018, 07:46:51 PM
So Louis or Gaston would be OK?

More acceptable than some random forename.
Title: Re: Chevrolet Orlando
Post by: WookieOnRitalin on October 31, 2018, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: MX793 on October 29, 2018, 06:57:10 AM
Orlando is the Latinized version of the name Roland, one of Charlemagne's most famous Chevaliers.

And that's another reason it's a bad car name.  It's a person's first name.  Naming a car Orlando is the same as naming a car Robert.

Robert is an excellent name for about anything. Human children. Cars. We are a friendly bunch.