New Crossover for the house

[Eye of the Tiger]

Why on earth would you suggest a comfortable, sporty, beautiful, and practical Stelvio?!?

Instead of the more comfy, more spotsy, more beauty Porch Macaw

[MexicoCityM3]

Go test an X1. It's best in class, really.

[12,000 RPM]

Are they paying you?????

[2o6]

Go test an X1. It's best in class, really.

x3, you mean? The X1 is small.

[HurricaneSteve]

That is quite the premium feature I gotta admit!

It doesn't make run on premix like the Earth Dreams 1.5, too.

[MexicoCityM3]

x3, you mean? The X1 is small.

It´s big inside, not that far from the X3. The X3 is among the best in its class too.

[2o6]

It´s big inside, not that far from the X3. The X3 is among the best in its class too.

It's big for its class, but it's smaller than everything he's looking at...

[Lebowski]

Go test an X1. It's best in class, really.

Ha.


Just imagine the case of CRVenvy Mrs H would have if they paid up for an X1.

[r0tor]

It's big for its class, but it's smaller than everything he's looking at...

More comfortable then a CX5

[MexicoCityM3]

X1:

"The X1 feels quite roomy for a vehicle this size, with enough head- and legroom for tall passengers to comfortably fit in either row. If you regularly carry adults in the back seat, consider upgrading to the sliding and reclining second-row seats for extra comfort."

"The X1 has a 27.1-cubic-foot cargo hold behind the rear seats and a total capacity of 58.7 cubic feet when you lay down the 40/20/40-split-folding second-row seats. Both dimensions are significantly larger than what you get with similarly sized rivals. A standard power liftgate adds to the X1's convenience."

CX-5:

"The rear seats don't offer as much space as some rivals, but they have enough headroom for taller passengers. There are two sets of LATCH car-seat connectors on the rear outboard seats and an upper tether on the middle seat. The middle seat also has the ability to borrow lower anchors from the adjoining seats when they are not in use."

"You'll find 30.9 cubic feet of cargo space when the rear seats are upright or 59.6 cubic feet when they are folded. While many shoppers should be content with the amount of space that the CX-5 provides, its maximum cargo capacity is slightly below average for the class. A power liftgate is available, which makes loading cargo easier."

The X1 is very slightly smaller inside.

And before anyone cries "reliability!!!" let´s keep it real. When has MrH held on to a car for more than what the warranty/free service period would last on a new BMW? Answer: never, it ain't happening. Long term reliability is a non issue in this thread.

[Lebowski]

The CX-5 is small though.

[BimmerM3]

And before anyone cries "reliability!!!" let´s keep it real. When has MrH held on to a car for more than what the warranty/free service period would last on a new BMW? Answer: never, it ain't happening. Long term reliability is a non issue.

But resale is an issue.

[r0tor]

Why wouldn't you just lease if you flip cars continually and worry about resale

[HurricaneSteve]

I don't know, does MrH's wife switch cars as often as he does? I would imagine that reliability, as well as ride & handling matter a great deal. Even Consumer Reports rates the CX-5 quite highly, even over the CR-V. While it does give up some interior room to the CR-V, the CX-5 rides better, handles better and is more reliable. I think only the RAV-4 has better quality ratings.

[BimmerM3]

I don't know, does MrH's wife switch cars as often as he does?

Will probably keep it 4-5 years then eventually get a 3 row vehicle.

[HurricaneSteve]

Ah thanks!

[2o6]

The X1 is still a class down from the cars he's looking at. Granted, the CX-5 is more snug compared to others, but like....it's a subcompact crossover. If the X1 works, then look at the HR-V et al.

[r0tor]

The X1 is not noticeably smaller then the X3 inside... I've sat enough in both to know the difference feels very small

[12,000 RPM]

Seems like the X1 will do nothing better for Mrs H than the CX-5, but will cost 50% more. The choice is obvious

[Laconian]

Want me to dump Consumer Reports crossover results into a PDF?

[2o6]

I've driven the the X1 and the X3 (not the current gen).

The X1 is nice, but the x3 is definitely bigger and longer, and more spacious in every direction.


More importantly, you can get a nicely equipped CX-5 Touring for like 26-27k.

The cheapest X1 is literally $40,000.

[Laconian]

Want me to dump Consumer Reports crossover results into a PDF?

You don't have to ask, here you go anyway. I'm going to lose access by the end of the month.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J-867StVUU19EDftNhqlciHwlHjlBCy3/view?usp=sharing

SPOILER ALERT: FCA products dominate the bottom slots of each category

[r0tor]

I've driven the the X1 and the X3 (not the current gen).

The X1 is nice, but the x3 is definitely bigger and longer, and more spacious in every direction.


More importantly, you can get a nicely equipped CX-5 Touring for like 26-27k.

The cheapest X1 is literally $40,000.

Good grief... Just about every interior measurement is within a half inch between the X1 and x3 

https://www.carsdirect.com/compare/compare-tool/bmw/x1/bmw/x3

[CaminoRacer]

I fit in the backseat of a CX-5 with lots of room to spare. Since when is that small?

(Front seat was far enough back to be comfortable for a 6 footer)

[WookieOnRitalin]

You don't have to ask, here you go anyway. I'm going to lose access by the end of the month.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J-867StVUU19EDftNhqlciHwlHjlBCy3/view?usp=sharing

SPOILER ALERT: FCA products dominate the bottom slots of each category

CR's raging boner for Subaru products reigns on as well. The Crosstrek, Forester, and Ascent sweep the top slots in each of their respective category.

[Lebowski]

I fit in the backseat of a CX-5 with lots of room to spare. Since when is that small?

(Front seat was far enough back to be comfortable for a 6 footer)

It's not too small to fit an adult, but it's notably smaller than say a CR-V. To me this is more of a factor for cargo/dogs with seats up or down, than how many people it can seat.  May also be a factor with car seats. Still, the back seat of the crv is more comfortable for people as well IMO.

[MrH]

You don't have to ask, here you go anyway. I'm going to lose access by the end of the month.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J-867StVUU19EDftNhqlciHwlHjlBCy3/view?usp=sharing

SPOILER ALERT: FCA products dominate the bottom slots of each category

Awesome! Thanks, that's a big help.

The wife did say the other day she did like the look of Jeeps. I told her that isn't an option

[BimmerM3]

You don't have to ask, here you go anyway. I'm going to lose access by the end of the month.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J-867StVUU19EDftNhqlciHwlHjlBCy3/view?usp=sharing

SPOILER ALERT: FCA products dominate the bottom slots of each category

For future CarSpin consumer inquiries - let me know. I bought a year of access in December.

[r0tor]

CR's raging boner for Subaru products reigns on as well. The Crosstrek, Forester, and Ascent sweep the top slots in each of their respective category.

... Despite them still failing head gaskets for 20 years straight...

In Europe, Alfa Romeo is ranked at the top in reliability for several years across the model range.  In the US, with very few reports, CR rates them at the bottom... Gotta wonder some times

[12,000 RPM]

FCA has no problem paying bribes. Plus CR was hardly the only publication with problematic Alfas