Hot-take on the dealerships vs GM:
https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-86-you-bet-your-calais-id-take-that-cadillac-buyout/
Avoidable Contact #86: You bet your Calais I'd take that Cadillac buyout
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 27, 2020, 11:30:04 AM
Hot-take on the dealerships vs GM:
https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-86-you-bet-your-calais-id-take-that-cadillac-buyout/
Avoidable Contact #86: You bet your Calais I'd take that Cadillac buyout
That was a brilliant piece. I'd put my general automotive knowledge towards the upper end of the bell curve. But ask me what I know about Cadillac's lineup... practically nothing ummm...
"Escalades are good"
"Tarted-up Buicks/Chevrolets with impossible to remember names"
"They're the stupid wankers that are in the news for putting agricultural four-bangers in their cars"
Cadillac has produced some legitimately good cars in the past 15 years or so. Unfortunately, it's hard to shed an image that they built over 30 years of building large boats for senior citizens and members of organized crime.
The article mentions the Blackwing. I imagine that Caddy service departments are pretty pissed about getting trained up for a new engine that went absolutely nowhere.
Quote from: MX793 on December 28, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
Cadillac has produced some legitimately good cars in the past 15 years or so. Unfortunately, it's hard to shed an image that they built over 30 years of building large boats for senior citizens and members of organized crime.
Don't forget the President...or is that covered by
"senior citizens and members of organized crime."
Quote from: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
The article mentions the Blackwing. I imagine that Caddy service departments are pretty pissed about getting trained up for a new engine that went absolutely nowhere.
The Blackwing was one of the (the) most interesting engine produced by GM in decades..."Hot 'V'."
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 28, 2020, 12:41:24 PM
The Blackwing was one of the (the) most interesting engine produced by GM in decades..."Hot 'V'."
Yeah, but they put a bullet in its head after they sold a few hundred of them...
IMO, Cadillac doesn't have anywhere to go but up with its non-Escalade lineup. Maybe we should feel optimistic about the EV pivot. The Bolt certainly demonstrates that Cadillac can do a good job with an all-electric drivetrain. The ELR was a spectacular failure, but they were building off hybrid bits for that car, and hybrids are laaaame.
Quote from: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 12:43:48 PM
Yeah, but they put a bullet in its head after they sold a few hundred of them...
They might become collector's items then, like the old FE "SOC" engine.
Quote from: Laconian on December 28, 2020, 12:46:21 PM
IMO, Cadillac doesn't have anywhere to go but up with its non-Escalade lineup. Maybe we should feel optimistic about the EV pivot. The Bolt certainly demonstrates that Cadillac can do a good job with an all-electric drivetrain. The ELR was a spectacular failure, but they were building off hybrid bits for that car, and hybrids are laaaame.
This. It's getting its lunch eaten by Hyundai Motor for God's sake. Cadillac has allowed itself to become a 100% Infiniti-style shitshow - right down to the nomenclature debacle. The all-or-nothing EV gamble is worth taking IMO. If it doesn't work out, at least they'll crash & burn in style.
Yeah I really think GM needs to make each brand unique. Slapping different badges on the same cars might work for uneducated dummies and bean counting, but long term it means they're locked into limited options and spending all their time on non-critical work (tweaking the appearance of the same car multiple times).
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 29, 2020, 05:59:23 AM
Yeah I really think GM needs to make each brand unique. Slapping different badges on the same cars might work for uneducated dummies and bean counting, but long term it means they're locked into limited options and spending all their time on non-critical work (tweaking the appearance of the same car multiple times).
Is there a major car manufacturer that doesn't do that?
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 29, 2020, 05:59:23 AM
Yeah I really think GM needs to make each brand unique. Slapping different badges on the same cars might work for uneducated dummies and bean counting, but long term it means they're locked into limited options and spending all their time on non-critical work (tweaking the appearance of the same car multiple times).
On the other hand, you get the GM of old, that spend money designing, oh 5 completely different 7 liter V8 engines at the same time...
Oh the Ford and other brand re-badging is dumb too.
I'm ok with the Toyobaru as both manufacturers got a better car than either one working alone, but ick on the rest.