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Auto Talk => Luxury Talk => Topic started by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:31:13 PM

Poll
Question: Which would you pick?
Option 1: BMW M5 votes: 12
Option 2: Mercedes Benz E55 AMG votes: 2
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:31:13 PM
(http://www.reportmotori.it/Bmw%20M5%20Plancia%20-%20640.jpg)

(http://www.bmwpower.cz/magazin/001-M5/BMW%20M5%20-05.JPG)

(http://nicolas.buisson1.free.fr/BMW%20M5.2.jpg)

vs.

(http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Oto-Xe-may/2003/10/3B9CC595/E55_AMG_duoi_1B.jpg)

(http://www.cars.com/features/autoshow2003/production/mercedes/images/03_e55_amg.jpg)

(http://www.autogazeta.com/g/317/me4_s.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 04:32:37 PM
M5: V10, stealthy looks, and has a true manual!
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:37:05 PM
The M5 is a much nicer car, from a sporting standpoint, and yet is totally docile around town.  The E55 can claim that much, but in the sporting department it is seriously lacking compared to the M5.  Car said that after driving the M5 the E55 felt like it had wooden steering.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:40:06 PM
You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:41:04 PM
QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:43:50 PM
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QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 04:44:55 PM
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QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:45:24 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 04:45:33 PM
I'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:45:45 PM
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QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.
Why?  Price?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:46:02 PM
QuoteI'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.
What about the new M5 Wagon?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 04:48:11 PM
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QuoteI'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.
What about the new M5 Wagon?
The US is actually getting it? What's the pricing?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:49:21 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:50:16 PM
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QuoteI'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.
What about the new M5 Wagon?
The US is actually getting it? What's the pricing?
Link (http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2005/B/bmw-m5-touring/m5-touring.html)

I believe the US is getting it.  And I assume it will be a little pricier than the saloon version.  

Check the link.

Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:51:02 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 04:52:27 PM
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QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.
Why?  Price?
It looks better than the E55, it's pretty much the same in performance, and it's cheaper.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:55:19 PM
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QuoteYou do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Then how come you had such a problem accepting my opinion?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:56:02 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?
I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:58:40 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?
I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.
Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 04:59:12 PM
Also, a small picture is much better than one of a completely different interior.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 04:59:53 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?
I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.
Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.
I'm merely trying to start conversations.  I'm asking them Why? and I'm not saying that the STS-v is junk or anything like that.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:00:37 PM
QuoteAlso, a small picture is much better than one of a completely different interior.
I didnt realize it was different.  The thumbnail picture looked the same, so I just got the link.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 05:00:45 PM
Who else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?

(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bmw/01-small/BMW-M5-Touring-002.jpg)

Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:01:22 PM
QuoteWho else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?

(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bmw/01-small/BMW-M5-Touring-002.jpg)

Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.
I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 05:03:07 PM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.
Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.
Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):
(http://images.autobytel.com/Web/Carpics/NCTD/05-e55-int.jpg)
I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.
Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?
I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.
Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.
I'm merely trying to start conversations.  I'm asking them Why? and I'm not saying that the STS-v is junk or anything like that.
Then why were you so defensive?  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 05:03:40 PM
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QuoteWho else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?

(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bmw/01-small/BMW-M5-Touring-002.jpg)

Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.
I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.
i thought it WAS a vibe. :lol:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:04:05 PM
If I sounded defensive, I certainly didnt mean to.  Sometimes on Forums its hard to convey how you really feel, and I was just asking a question, nothing else.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 05:09:25 PM
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(http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bmw/01-small/BMW-M5-Touring-002.jpg)

Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.
I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.
i thought it WAS a vibe. :lol:
So did I, and I even knew what page I was on.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raza on May 29, 2005, 10:45:25 PM
Hmm...I love the E55, but I'd take the M5 unless m other car was an M6 or Viper SRT-10.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 10:47:04 PM
QuoteHmm...I love the E55, but I'd take the M5 unless m other car was an M6 or Viper SRT-10.
The M5 has a true manual. :praise:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raza on May 29, 2005, 10:48:08 PM
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The M5 has a true manual. :praise:
That's the reason.  If I had a second super fast car that had a stick, I'd rather have an E55 in case my damn trick knee acts up again on the golf course and I can't operate a clutch for a few days.  An auto as a second car would come in handy.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: 850CSi on May 29, 2005, 11:21:14 PM
A 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.

Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 12:05:56 AM
QuoteA 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 05:05:14 AM
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QuoteA 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
I'd still rather have the two Bimmers with the AAs.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Submariner on May 30, 2005, 07:33:12 AM
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QuoteA 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
For some reason, converting a Focus to RWD just screams rice.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 30, 2005, 08:30:35 AM
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Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.
Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.
Here's a better one.

(http://www.tjcar.com.cn/image/bodao/benchi/2003%20%B1%BC%B3%DB%20E55%20AMG/004-1.gif)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Run Away on May 30, 2005, 09:39:04 AM
M5 with SMG for me.
I just don't know what a normal manual would feel like with all that power...it just seems like it would feel too heavy if it could withstand that power, and too fragile if it couldn't.

E55 is nice too of course, but the M5 is just more my style. The E55 is a muscle car with handling, the M5 is more like a screaming exotic.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 10:12:01 AM
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QuoteA 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
I'd still rather have the two Bimmers with the AAs.
and i'd have a sleeper Focus capable of smoking those two BMW's.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 10:12:14 AM
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BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
For some reason, converting a Focus to RWD just screams rice.
how?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Fire It Up on May 30, 2005, 10:12:28 AM
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QuoteA 530i with an AA Supercharger, along with $30K in my pocket which could go to the purchase of an '01 325i Convertible, also with the AA Superchager.

BEAT THAT.
Fine. How about i just take the money and buy a Ford Racing Focus with RWD, a Tremec 6-speed manual, and a 5.0 liter 450hp V8?
For some reason, converting a Focus to RWD just screams rice.
Uhm, what?  :rolleyes:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Fire It Up on May 30, 2005, 10:17:28 AM
M5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 10:18:22 AM
QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
Ford Racing Focus RS8?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 30, 2005, 10:36:26 AM
QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:22:38 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
He said he's buying an RR Sport...thats more than enough, dont you think?  And R33, post pictures when you get it, even though I've probably told you 100 times :lol:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:26:43 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
He said he's buying an RR Sport...thats more than enough, dont you think?  And R33, post pictures when you get it, even though I've probably told you 100 times :lol:
he doesn't have to do anything for you after you've called him a post whore about a bajillion times!!!! :angry:  :angry:  rokon.gif  rokon.gif
:lol:  :lol:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 30, 2005, 06:30:53 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
He said he's buying an RR Sport...thats more than enough, dont you think?  And R33, post pictures when you get it, even though I've probably told you 100 times :lol:
he doesn't have to do anything for you after you've called him a post whore about a bajillion times!!!! :angry:  :angry:  rokon.gif  rokon.gif
:lol:  :lol:
I'm sure he would post pictures without a problem.  He knows I am a fan of LR, and he would enjoy showing off his new car to someone who would truly appreciate it.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 06:32:27 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
He said he's buying an RR Sport...thats more than enough, dont you think?  And R33, post pictures when you get it, even though I've probably told you 100 times :lol:
he doesn't have to do anything for you after you've called him a post whore about a bajillion times!!!! :angry:  :angry:  rokon.gif  rokon.gif
:lol:  :lol:
I'm sure he would post pictures without a problem.  He knows I am a fan of LR, and he would enjoy showing off his new car to someone who would truly appreciate it.
anyone but you. rokon.gif  rokon.gif
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Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 30, 2005, 08:23:45 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
He said he's buying an RR Sport...thats more than enough, dont you think?  And R33, post pictures when you get it, even though I've probably told you 100 times :lol:
Will do Dave.   :praise:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 30, 2005, 08:35:36 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
No, the next car will be either an E320 CDI or the one I'm leaning toward the Jaguar S-Type R.  It's going to be at least 10 months before we look at cars though.


I will pose a question though.  Which one would you want and why, I know there are major differences but how would it play out for you?

Jaguar S Type R

(http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/02/06/images/05/DetroitJaguarS.jpg)


E320 CDI

(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/05.mercedes.e320cdi/05.mercedesbenz.e320cdi.f34.500.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 08:53:26 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
No, the next car will be either an E320 CDI or the one I'm leaning toward the Jaguar S-Type R.  It's going to be at least 10 months before we look at cars though.


I will pose a question though.  Which one would you want and why, I know there are major differences but how would it play out for you?

Jaguar S Type R

(http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/02/06/images/05/DetroitJaguarS.jpg)


E320 CDI

(http://www.noels.com/VEH/NOW/BENTS/05-SILVER-E320-CDI/05_silverE320CDI_RF.jpg)
S type R. Much sexier and better performer. :praise:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Run Away on May 30, 2005, 09:38:43 PM
Benz, complete with the banged up rear end.:P

No, STR, in black or British Racing Green. B)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 30, 2005, 10:06:01 PM
QuoteBenz, complete with the banged up rear end.:P

:praise:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 09:45:31 AM
that was a good pic, he he.  :)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Fire It Up on May 31, 2005, 09:59:34 AM
Why a C320CDI instead of a C55?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 10:23:50 AM
QuoteWhy a C320CDI instead of a C55?
E320 CDI, 2 cars 2 different reasons.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 01:46:02 PM
Another better interior pic.

(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/05.mercedes.e320cdi/05.mercedesbenz.e320cdi.int.500.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 01:53:14 PM
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Jaguar/100395207/029873-E.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 01:53:50 PM
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Jaguar/100395207/029874-E.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 01:54:30 PM
(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2005/Jaguar/100395207/029875-E.jpg)
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raza on May 31, 2005, 01:59:29 PM
The E320 CDI is a better built car, but I'd go for the STR.  Can't argue with that kind of performance.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on May 31, 2005, 03:38:30 PM
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QuoteM5 I think. I'd rather have something else though; the BMW is too weird looking, and the MB is auto and most likely not as fun for driving (acceleration and speed aside).
I drove my old neighbors 05 E55 and all I'll say is that it is one wicked machine.  Unless you are pretty good at controlling the rear end, always leave the traction control on.  The power is there and the rear is very happy even on dry pavement when the go pedal is caressed.  It is one extreme luxury ride.  I would like to drive the M5 to see how hard it is.
are you going to buy one?
No, the next car will be either an E320 CDI or the one I'm leaning toward the Jaguar S-Type R.  It's going to be at least 10 months before we look at cars though.


I will pose a question though.  Which one would you want and why, I know there are major differences but how would it play out for you?

Jaguar S Type R

(http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/02/06/images/05/DetroitJaguarS.jpg)


E320 CDI

(http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/05.mercedes.e320cdi/05.mercedesbenz.e320cdi.f34.500.jpg)
I would pick the S Type R.  Much faster, looks better (subjective), and the exhaust note is quite sweet.  Its a unique car, and the MB is sort of run of the mill.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 05:36:56 PM
QuoteIts a unique car, and the MB is sort of run of the mill.
yes, the CDI is VERY run of the mill.... the CDI doesnt' even get new wheels! :rolleyes:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on May 31, 2005, 09:09:48 PM
So far some of the exact things I'm thinking on the CDI.  A big plus too would be Jaguar and Land Rover are together so no going to 2 different places for service.    
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on May 31, 2005, 10:05:46 PM
QuoteSo far some of the exact things I'm thinking on the CDI.  A big plus too would be Jaguar and Land Rover are together so no going to 2 different places for service.
get the jag.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on June 01, 2005, 06:32:01 AM
QuoteSo far some of the exact things I'm thinking on the CDI.  A big plus too would be Jaguar and Land Rover are together so no going to 2 different places for service.
If you get the RR Sport supercharged, and the S Type R, then you would have two cars with pretty much the same engine.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on June 01, 2005, 06:54:21 AM
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QuoteSo far some of the exact things I'm thinking on the CDI.  A big plus too would be Jaguar and Land Rover are together so no going to 2 different places for service.
If you get the RR Sport supercharged, and the S Type R, then you would have two cars with pretty much the same engine.
so?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 01, 2005, 07:38:15 AM
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QuoteSo far some of the exact things I'm thinking on the CDI.  A big plus too would be Jaguar and Land Rover are together so no going to 2 different places for service.
If you get the RR Sport supercharged, and the S Type R, then you would have two cars with pretty much the same engine.
My point exactly as well as having a better relationship with the dealer.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on June 01, 2005, 07:48:46 AM
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If you get the RR Sport supercharged, and the S Type R, then you would have two cars with pretty much the same engine.
My point exactly as well as having a better relationship with the dealer.
most valuable customer of the year award. :lol:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on June 01, 2005, 09:58:15 AM
Will you be driving this car or will your wife be? If it is you, the S-type R all the way. But, if it is your wife than she probably doesn't care about performance all that much if at all in which case the E320 CDI makes more sense.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on June 01, 2005, 10:02:17 AM
QuoteWill you be driving this car or will your wife be? If it is you, the S-type R all the way. But, if it is your wife than she probably doesn't care about performance all that much if at all in which case the E320 CDI makes more sense.
Why?  The Jag is a perfectly comfortable car, and even if performance no object, the Mercedes isnt significantly better for his wife.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 01, 2005, 10:03:52 AM
My wife will be driving it 70 to 30, she'll like the power, she rides a R6.  I'll drive it mainly on trips and a little around town.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on June 01, 2005, 10:08:25 AM
QuoteMy wife will be driving it 70 to 30, she'll like the power, she rides a R6.  I'll drive it mainly on trips and a little around town.
When would you plan on buying it?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 01, 2005, 10:31:40 AM
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When would you plan on buying it?
We're about 10 months out on a new car.
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: TBR on June 01, 2005, 10:37:24 AM
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QuoteWill you be driving this car or will your wife be? If it is you, the S-type R all the way. But, if it is your wife than she probably doesn't care about performance all that much if at all in which case the E320 CDI makes more sense.
Why?  The Jag is a perfectly comfortable car, and even if performance no object, the Mercedes isnt significantly better for his wife.
But the MB is even more comfortable. R33, if your wife will enjoy the power than the S-type R is definitely the way to go.  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on June 01, 2005, 09:34:28 PM
QuoteMy wife will be driving it 70 to 30, she'll like the power, she rides a R6.  I'll drive it mainly on trips and a little around town.
congrats on the wife. :praise:  
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: Raghavan on June 01, 2005, 09:34:46 PM
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When would you plan on buying it?
We're about 10 months out on a new car.
you wanna buy both the RR and the STR?
Title: BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG
Post by: BMWDave on June 01, 2005, 09:43:09 PM
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When would you plan on buying it?
We're about 10 months out on a new car.
you wanna buy both the RR and the STR?
It sure seems that way.