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Title: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: 2o6 on May 22, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
The JDM Toyota Harrier has been introduced as the new Venza. In theory, it's a Honda Passport or Ford Edge competitor. Wheelbase and width are the same as the RAV4, but it's 5" longer.

Power comes from the RAV4 Hybrid's 2.5L system, so about 213HP, and e4WD. No gas engine available.

(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/A6pxx/s1/2021-toyota-venza-debut.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/2XBjk/s1/2021-toyota-venza-debut.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/Vp2o9/s1/2021-toyota-venza-debut.jpg)




Also, the latest Sienna is now here. Like the Venza, hybrid only - a 2.5L hybrid setup, but here it makes 243HP. e4WD is also an option. 33MPG!


(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/kX72B/s1/2021-toyota-sienna.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/mpOm4/s1/2021-toyota-sienna.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/6y1gb/s1/2021-toyota-sienna.jpg)
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/LpPKW/s1/2021-toyota-sienna.jpg)

https://www.motor1.com/news/423740/2021-toyota-sienna-details/
https://www.motor1.com/news/423753/2021-toyota-venza-first-look/

Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on May 22, 2020, 03:24:47 PM
Can it take off and land vertically?
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: Xer0 on May 22, 2020, 04:08:42 PM
I really really really like the new Venza.  I think it looks classy as hell and that powertrain is making everyone happy in the Rav4.  When it comes time for my mom to replace her old GLK, I'm going to try and get her to look at the Venza hard.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: CALL_911 on May 22, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
Damn, they both look great. I always liked the old Venza, not sure why it got as much hate as it did.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: CALL_911 on May 22, 2020, 05:01:20 PM
I do, however, hate the fact that the Venza doesn't have a volume knob. Honda reverted from these stupid "rocker" buttons to the good old knob, why did Toyota have to stick with them?

Other nitpick, the bezels around the Sienna's infotainment screen look gigantic, subsequently making the screen look tiny.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: Laconian on May 22, 2020, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on May 22, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
Damn, they both look great. I always liked the old Venza, not sure why it got as much hate as it did.

Buick steering ratios and a pretty cramped interior for how big the rest of the car is.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: CALL_911 on May 22, 2020, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 22, 2020, 05:05:59 PM
Buick steering ratios and a pretty cramped interior for how big the rest of the car is.

Fair enough
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: 2o6 on May 22, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on May 22, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
Damn, they both look great. I always liked the old Venza, not sure why it got as much hate as it did.


Too station wagon-esque. See Chrysler Pacifica.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: FoMoJo on May 22, 2020, 05:34:00 PM
The Venza looks good. it's how the rear is finished that makes or breaks an SUV.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: veeman on May 22, 2020, 11:43:56 PM
33 mpg for a big heavy minivan is ridiculously good.  That's basically the same as a current generation Corolla. 
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 23, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
Sienna is very interesting- going to be game-changing for the segment- as much as Honda's disappearing 3rd row.  I mean sure Pacifica has a hybrid but it's optional and I would guess pretty low in the percentage of takers vs the normal engine. This will be ALL the Siennas.

I don't like the appearance of the current Sienna as much as the others. But the AWD has been a definite bonus for those that live in snowy areas.
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: Payman on May 24, 2020, 09:54:34 AM
Saw the Venza and said, not bad... Toyota toned down the weirdness. Then I saw the Sienna.  :facepalm:

Supra taillights? really?
Title: Re: New Toyota Venza, Sienna
Post by: Payman on May 24, 2020, 09:58:01 AM
I must say I like both interiors though, very interesting. Toyota can get pretty frikkin weird with interiors. Love they both have NORMAL SHIFTERS. The console bridge in the Sienna is a cool touch.