The long wait was worth it. Here she is. She's even more beautiful in person. :wub:
Warning: Horrible poor quality snapshots ahead, some are even blurry! Sorry! :lol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/6q6grL1c/Wimmer-A250-21.jpg)
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Some quick driving impressions. Oh, and my dream license plate (M:CW1982) wasn't available, but M:WF1982 is better anyway because WF stands for Wimmer Fotografie, my business! :rockon:
I'm taking it easy on the engine for the first 1000 km, but you can feel the eagerness and power of the engine. It's very responsive and there's no noticeable turbo lag. The motor is also very refined. Although I ticked the option of Sporty Exhaust Note, the engine does not sound as aggressive - perhaps I have to wait until I can really hammer it.
Steering feel is lighter and slightly vaguer than in the BMW, but you still receive feedback on what the front wheels are doing.
The brakes on the A180d and A200 AMG Line I experienced were a bit "mushy" and "vague", but thankfully that's not the case here with the A250. They feel the same as in my ex-BMW: responsive, precise and with superb feedback.
The 7-DCT transmission works in the background. You don't hear or feel it. It's that smooth. I have yet to test it on the Autobahn, which will happen tomorrow when I drive it to another city to get the winter wheels and tires mounted.
Start-Stop was pretty smooth in both turning off and starting, but I still disabled the system. I'm not a fan of Start-Stop
MBUX is sweet. I still need to create and login into my account to receive the free updated and improvements. The navigation system is amazing and I didn't even know I had the virtual reality guideline arrows that show you on screen in which exact street you need to turn into! I guess that's part of the Business Package and extended MBUX features.
On the downside, the view out of the rear side windows to check for cyclists and pedestrians when making left or right turns is not as good as in the BMW. I will need to keep that in mind and get used to it quickly.
Another problem was getting into my parking spot. Boy, with my neighbor's fat E-Class parked in its spot next to me squeezing in there was time-consuming. I didn't quite trust the 360-degree parking camera, or at least I still need to develop a feel for it as well as the dimensions of the car. I am sure it's all psychological because I could blindly park the BMW in that spot without issues.
One thing I really dislike, probably out of habit, is that the gas tank filler hole is on the driver's side. On my BMW it was on the right. It's just something I will need to get used to. By the way, the Mercedes dealership really treated me like royalty and filled up my enlarged (66 liter) fuel tank! Sweet!
So overall, I am very happy with the car. Tomorrow I'll be going on a long drive and I'll snap better photos once the winter wheels (Rial M10s) and tires (Continental WinterSport TS860S) are fitted.
Some more snapshots! :cheers:
Here is the FIRST TIME I saw her. And I was STUNNED. She looks even better in person than the configurator photos could ever convey! This is the room where new Benz owners get to meet their new ride and get a quick course on how to use the car and its features.
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Left the dealership with 3 km on the odometer, arrived home with 12 km. The digital tachometer is cool, I quickly got used to it.
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Some quick snapshots I took in a tunnel in my underground parking garage. Tomorrow those lovely 19" Multi-Spoke AMGs are replaced with 19"RIAL M10 winter wheels and tires. :cry:
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The key and fob.
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The last photo I took of the BMW. Snapped the photo, then turned around and never looked back - to make the final goodbye less heartbreaking. :cry:
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Looking forward to many kilometers and years with this thing! :wub: :rockon:
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Congratulations, that thing is seriously a nice car.
You think the BMW will get shipped to Africa or something?
Hey, congratulations man! :ohyeah:
It looks great, especially the wheels.
Looks awesome. How does that key function?
Nice looker.
Congrats!
The whole dash is a ipad screen. Pretty soon the windshield will just be a giant ipad screen. And cars will fly.
Very nice car, Christian. :thumbsup:
Can you just totally customize the instrument layout, and/or watch Netflix?
Oh yeah, nice car dude ... for a taxi
Congrats!
This thing looks so much better than the sedan we Americans are gonna get.
Very nice, and I agree it looks better in your "real life" shots than the ones you downloaded from MB's website. :ohyeah:
Congrats! Looks a lot more spacious compared to your 1-series too.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2018, 10:12:48 AM
Congratulations, that thing is seriously a nice car.
You think the BMW will get shipped to Africa or something?
Thank you! I love it already. :cheers:
I suspect for now the BMW is either going to remain in Germany, or head east into Eastern Europe. It's just a hunch because the dealership advised me it would be helpful for their used car dealership to have a full TÜV and repair history of the car(s) they sell. I left a my repair/maintenance/TÜV documents in a folder on the passenger seat for them.
Somehow I doubt this information will matter in Africa. :lol:
A few months ago I did see a documentary about old cars in Germany/Europe that eventually land in Africa. This even included cars like a fairly recent Mercedes W211 (2002 to 2009) and W212 E-Class or severely beat up Hondas, Toyotas, Volkswagens and even Opels. The funny thing is, once these cars arrive in Africa, the locals remove everything they deem unnecessary such as luxury features, catalytic converters etc. I think on current cars this is going to be difficult, since those engines are designed to work with catalytic converters and especially particulate filters.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 27, 2018, 10:12:51 AM
Hey, congratulations man! :ohyeah:
It looks great, especially the wheels.
Thanks! :cheers:
I LOVE the wheels. I'm really curious how the 19" Rial M10s will look on it. Gonna find out tomorrow!
BTW, reading the instruction manuals right now - well the ,,short version". :lol:
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Quote from: giant_mtb on November 27, 2018, 10:15:31 AM
Looks awesome. How does that key function?
Thanks! ;)
The key is part of the keyless go system, though in my case I didn't specify pure keyless go. I have to physically unlock and lock the car, but once I am inside the car the key can remain in my pocket and I can start the car by depressing the brake pedal and hitting the start button.
A cool feature of the car is that the key, which is powered by a CR-style battery, will warn you when the key battery is low. They did think of everything! I was worried I needed to keep a CR battery in my wallet just in case the key fob battery dies... :tounge:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 27, 2018, 02:01:17 PM
Can you just totally customize the instrument layout, and/or watch Netflix?
Oh yeah, nice car dude ... for a taxi
Oh yes. Watch the video below and go to 23:00. From about there you can see how the tachometer dials etc. can be customized. And since this is software-based, future updates may provide more themes, styles and customization options. ;)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uwpTboy2zo
I love my
taxi! :rockon: :praise:
Quote from: Xer0 on November 27, 2018, 02:43:00 PM
Congrats!
This thing looks so much better than the sedan we Americans are gonna get.
Agreed. And I feel the hatchback is more practical. You get more rear head space and a larger, more usable boot.
This is how my A-Class would have looked like in sedan form.
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I think the design looks better in hatchback form. The new A-Class Sedan should be the new CLA. Not sure why MB is offering both the A-Class Sedan and a new CLA. They claim there are differences, and I will be interested to hear what these differences and selling points will be.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on November 27, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
Very nice, and I agree it looks better in your "real life" shots than the ones you downloaded from MB's website. :ohyeah:
:cheers:
And in person the car looks so much better. Videos and pics don't do it much justice. MB really has a winner with this one. :ohyeah:
In fact I was lucky. Ordered the car end of July, got it now. There's now a 6-month waiting period for the A-Class. This, despite four factories working overtime to churn them out!
Another fun fact the salesman told me today was that the newly designed Mercedes G-Class has a waiting period of... well if you order one today, it will arrive in March.
March of 2020. HOLY SHIT. :lol:
Quote from: MrH on November 27, 2018, 02:56:05 PM
Congrats! Looks a lot more spacious compared to your 1-series too.
Thanks! :cheers:
It's indeed roomier inside. The trunk space is slightly shorter (about half a foot) than in the BMW, but it's not such a big deal since the rear seats can easily fold down and create a roomy loading area (this was also possible in the BMW). There's definitely more head room and leg space for rear passengers, and the ,,cardan shaft tunnel hump" is narrower and lower.
The good news is it also drives very nice. Aside from the lighter, slightly vaguer steering, it matches up well to the BMW. I'll know more when I take it on a long trip tomorrow. I'm especially dying to use the high tech adjustable suspension and the different modes (comfort, sport etc.).
Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 27, 2018, 03:32:53 PM
There's definitely more head room and leg space for rear passengers
That is very good. I remember when you picked me and some friends up from the train station to go to the Porsche museum. Cramming three of us in that back seat was not comfy hahaha
Remind me, which engine does it have? A small displacement turbo (twin spool) is the best of both (performance and efficiency) worlds.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on November 27, 2018, 03:36:53 PM
That is very good. I remember when you picked me and some friends up from the train station to go to the Porsche museum. Cramming three of us in that back seat was not comfy hahaha
Indeed! I remember that so clearly because I think two of your friends were rather tall, and they were forced to sit in the back. I'm surprised they didn't attempt to bring me infront of an international court for human rights abuses! :thumbsup:
Truth is, if a smaller person were driving the BMW and the driver's seat was closer to the steering wheel, the rear leg and head space issue could be somewhat solved. But when a 6'4" beast of man such as myself is behind the wheel... :tounge:
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 27, 2018, 03:46:29 PM
Remind me, which engine does it have? A small displacement turbo (twin spool) is the best of both (performance and efficiency) worlds.
It's a 2.0 (1991cc) 4-cylinder turbo with 224-horsepower and 350 Nm of torque available at 1800 RPM (the BMW had 143-hp and 190 Nm of torque). 0-100 km/h in 6.2 seconds (factory claim) and a top speed of 250 km/h (factory claim). I've seen some tests of the A250 and two of them maxed it out at 243 and 245 km/h, not quite 250 km/h. When the summer comes I wanna test mine and see if I can reach 155 mph! :lol:
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NICE!!!! :dance:
Congrats
Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 27, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
Thanks! ;)
The key is part of the keyless go system, though in my case I didn't specify pure keyless go. I have to physically unlock and lock the car, but once I am inside the car the key can remain in my pocket and I can start the car by depressing the brake pedal and hitting the start button.
A cool feature of the car is that the key, which is powered by a CR-style battery, will warn you when the key battery is low. They did think of everything! I was worried I needed to keep a CR battery in my wallet just in case the key fob battery dies... :tounge:
I understand how the fob itself works (I assume it's like any other proximity-key push button starter), but what's the metal stick for...?
That's just a keychain, bruh...
Congrats Wimmer, I hope you enjoy it for a long time to come.
Congrats on the new A Class. :cheers:
Quote from: 93JC on November 27, 2018, 09:10:33 PM
That's just a keychain, bruh...
Okay, well he said "fob AND key" so I thought the silly metal tube thing had some purpose. Soory dude.
Muchas felicidades Wimmer.
Casi tan bueno como un BMW. :evildude:
Congrats!!! Looks really good, particularly the interior. This bodes really well for the A-Class we are getting... current CLA is a total joke
I like the stance too, man I'd be bummed I couldn't lower this car. Is it on a sport suspension? It sits very low. Looks great
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 28, 2018, 01:22:24 PM
Congrats!!! Looks really good, particularly the interior. This bodes really well for the A-Class we are getting... current CLA is a total joke
I like the stance too, man I'd be bummed I couldn't lower this car. Is it on a sport suspension? It sits very low. Looks great
You could put coilovers on it and lift it two inches. Then I could cut the springs and lower it back down.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 28, 2018, 01:24:59 PM
You could put coilovers on it and lift it two inches.
The next GLA should be just around the corner.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on November 27, 2018, 04:37:22 PM
NICE!!!! :dance:
Quote from: r0tor on November 27, 2018, 07:40:25 PM
Congrats
Quote from: 93JC on November 27, 2018, 09:11:02 PM
Congrats Wimmer, I hope you enjoy it for a long time to come.
Quote from: Galaxy on November 28, 2018, 12:14:09 AM
Congrats on the new A Class. :cheers:
Thank you all! :cheers:
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 27, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
I understand how the fob itself works (I assume it's like any other proximity-key push button starter), but what's the metal stick for...?
I would guess it's to add some weight to the somewhat light key, so you can feel it in your pocket. I'm going to remove it because it keeps getting entangled with my apartment keys. :tounge:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on November 28, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
Muchas felicidades Wimmer.
Casi tan bueno como un BMW. :evildude:
Muchas Gracias, Senor BMW Fanboy! :evildude: :thumbsup:
I do miss the BMW, but this new car is a reminder of what direction the industry is going with technology, features etc. And boy, this turbo engine is a gem! :cheers:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 28, 2018, 01:22:24 PM
Congrats!!! Looks really good, particularly the interior. This bodes really well for the A-Class we are getting... current CLA is a total joke
I like the stance too, man I'd be bummed I couldn't lower this car. Is it on a sport suspension? It sits very low. Looks great
Thanks! :cheers:
Yep, the AMG Line is lowered by 2 centimeters. The addition of the sportier body kit also makes it look lower than it is. What also helps are the huge 19" AMG wheels. The standard AMG wheels are 18", and I personally think they're a tad small. This design works best with 19"+ wheels. :cheers:
So, got my Rial M10 winter wheels and tires fitted today. Then it was off to the TÜV to get the wheels inspected, tested and.... PASSED. I can now legally have fun in the winter with the Rial M10 wheels. They're 19" and AMG-lookalikes. The biggest difference? A single 18" AMG 5-Spoke wheel costs 850,- Euros. I got these four 19" Rial M10s for less than 600,- Euros. :ohyeah:
Getting the summer wheels off and the winter wheels on...(https://i.postimg.cc/0N1q2Mv9/A250-Winter-1.jpg)
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At the TÜV where the Rial M10 wheels are getting inspected and tested. Took about 15 minutes and bam, street legal, baby. :lol:(https://i.postimg.cc/ZK9k8FKT/A250-Winter-8.jpg)
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That looks incredible. Great choice with the color and wheels.
Is the steering wheel as complicated as it looks?
10 Minute Quick Interior/Exterior Walk-Around Video. :cheers:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuC59HUvuuw
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 28, 2018, 01:49:33 PM
That looks incredible. Great choice with the color and wheels.
Is the steering wheel as complicated as it looks?
It was sheer luck that I got those wheels. Originally I was going for the standard 18" 5-Spoke AMG wheels. But a few days before placing the order I saw an AMG Line A-Class stealthily sneaking through traffic with the 19" AMG wheels which I now have and I instantly fell in love. I had to have them. If it weren't for that encounter I would never have known about them since at the time I was considering the car they weren't on the MB website for the A-Class.
The steering wheel is actually quite simple. It looks difficult, but it's not really. Most of the controls are self explanatory. The left side BACK-BLACK BOX-HOME buttons control the tachometer in front of you. On the right side, the BACK-BLACK BOX-HOME control the functions on the main screen. Alternatively you can use the screen via touch or some features via voice control (MBUX) or use the "mouse pad" in the center console.
The new cruise control system takes some getting use to. You have to set the speed you want to cruise at (SET + / SET -) and then push up the tachometer button to its right. On the left side you can reset or cancel cruise (or simply hit the brake pedal). Takes awhile to get used to, but I drove 220 km today and quickly got the hang of it. The two sides of the steering wheel are also subtly light at night (but my snapshot is way overexposed).
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Driver's view...
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This is the AMG steering wheel, and it feels so good in your hands. I'm about to write up a short review from all the driving I did today - with some new pics. Stay tuned and do check out the video above, I explain vaguely the steering wheel functions! :cheers:
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I really dig those Rial wheels. Looks great! :ohyeah:
Quick Driving Update!
Today I got my winter wheels and tires fitted, and my drive took almost an hour. I had the car up to 180 km/h on the Autobahn. The engine is a gem in combination with the 7-DCT. They work so well together. The motor is very eager and powerful. At 180 km/h the car is very stable and the steering feedback tightens at higher speed (in the city it's rather light) - you can feel it becoming tighter the faster you go. I'm really enjoying the effortless power.
My winter tires are good for 240 km/h, but I'll go there once the engine, transmission etc. are properly broken in. I drove fast today, but didn't do any kickdowns. Enjoyable car to drive on a lengthy cruise. Average fuel consumption was between 7.7 and 8.2 L / 100 km (about 30.5/28.7 mpg) which involved a mix of city, Autobahn, country roads and again [destination] city driving. Not bad, especially since I am still getting to know the car.
Played around with the suspension settings (ECO, Comfort, Sport and Standard), mainly Sport and Comfort. In Sport mode the transmission is noticeably more aggressive, the steering is tighter and the engine sounds more aggressive (so that's where the sport engine note was hiding!). In comfort the steering is lighter (but tightens as you drive faster) and the transmission shifts a little "lazier". So far in both modes I didn't detect any real difference in regards to suspension feel. I don't like ECO mode... :tounge:
Ok, first some shots with the winter wheels and tires. 19" Rial M10s, very close to the original AMG-style wheels (but so much cheaper!!!).
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Later at night I managed a great light-painted shot of the interior, but I have yet to edit the shots, so these will have to do. Close-up of the AMG seats; great side and back support, super comfortable and great materials. Not a fan of leather but you can only get these seats in either [full] leather or with MB-Tex with Micro Fibre insets (cloth) which Mercedes calls Dinamica. Mine are the latter: MB-Tex with Dinamica. They feel nice. Oh, and I skimped on the electrically adjustable seats - mine are basic and manually adjusted. Much quicker (and free). :ohyeah:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZK52TPy8/A250-Winter-Super-6.jpg)
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Here's something I didn't specify, but I am glad it's part of the extended MBUX system. This is the new AUGMENTED REALITY feature which activates when you use the navigation system. You see a live view of the road ahead with blue arrow insets which show you where exactly to turn or which road you need to take. It's quite handy, and a neat feature.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hn9qSHPX/A250-Winter-Super-15.jpg)
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Hey there, old Mercedes A-Class AMG Line and Lamborghini Urus! :tounge:
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Overall, a productive day. The car is so much fun to drive. You do not notice it's FWD at all (A250 has an LSD), copes nicely with corners, no torque steer when you aggressively throttle it. Feels great. Now back to studying the instruction manual! :cheers:
Quote from: SJ_GTI on November 28, 2018, 02:19:59 PM
I really dig those Rial wheels. Looks great! :ohyeah:
This time I wanted to make sure that my car has nice summer and winter wheels. ;)
By the way, another fun feature. Spin the car around (also slight up and down views) and different system menus will pop up. Boy, I need time to study all of this!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OduF3_m5pr8
Great choice of wheels.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on November 28, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
Great choice of wheels.
Summer or winter, or both? :praise:
Still taking it easy, but reached 200 km/h today. This was just leisurely acceleration, no kickdown. The car was very stable at that speed, and inspired me to go faster.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUF6DMpmLso
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Lol, the gearing on my car is oh so very high by comparison. You're turning about 3100 rpm at 200 km/h; at 3100 rpm in top gear my car is only going about 130. :cry:
Quote from: 93JC on November 29, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Lol, the gearing on my car is oh so very high by comparison. You're turning about 3100 rpm at 200 km/h; at 3100 rpm in top gear my car is only going about 130. :cry:
There's definitely room for more speed. :tounge:
Some light painted photos from last night. These are all I could manage before my light stick ran out of juice (had not charged it since the late summer), so the exterior shot is not properly light on the hood and roof and side mirror area.
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Quote from: 93JC on November 29, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Lol, the gearing on my car is oh so very high by comparison. You're turning about 3100 rpm at 200 km/h; at 3100 rpm in top gear my car is only going about 130. :cry:
What is your car and what transmission?
Those digital gauges are really well done. Cheap digital gauges are soooooo bad, but the good ones are quite good.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2018, 12:43:55 PM
What is your car and what transmission?
2010 Mazda 3 Sport GS; 2.5 L I4, 5-speed automatic. 4th and 5th are overdrive gears, but the axle ratio is close to 4:1. At 80 km/h in 5th the engine is turning ~1900 rpm, and this is the sweet spot for fuel efficiency. At 100 km/h it's about 2100 rpm. At 120 km/h it's about 2700 rpm. The fastest I've had the car up to is 160ish, and it was >3500 rpm.
Quote from: 93JC on November 29, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Lol, the gearing on my car is oh so very high by comparison. You're turning about 3100 rpm at 200 km/h; at 3100 rpm in top gear my car is only going about 130. :cry:
The S2000 is at 4k RPM at 75 mph (~120 kmh). :mask:
And that's in
6th gear. :lol:
Quote from: 93JC on November 29, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
2010 Mazda 3 Sport GS; 2.5 L I4, 5-speed automatic. 4th and 5th are overdrive gears, but the axle ratio is close to 4:1. At 80 km/h in 5th the engine is turning ~1900 rpm, and this is the sweet spot for fuel efficiency. At 100 km/h it's about 2100 rpm. At 120 km/h it's about 2700 rpm. The fastest I've had the car up to is 160ish, and it was >3500 rpm.
My Discovery Sport is a 2.0 L twin spool turbo (EcoBoost) with a ZF-9. It was a revelation to me as to how responsive it was as well as being, potentially, so economical. My typical hwy speed is about 110 kph and, if I recall correctly, at about 2100 rpm. The fastest I usually go is about 130 kph and it seems to me the rpm is still well below 2500 rpm. What was really surprising to me is on a normal hwy trip, often I get around 6 litres per 100 k.
I'm a real fan now of small displacement twin spool turbos with lots of gears.
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 29, 2018, 01:56:40 PM
Those digital gauges are really well done. Cheap digital gauges are soooooo bad, but the good ones are quite good.
My favorite are
Modern Classic and
Sport. Not a fan of
Understated. In the video I posted you can see how after the needle there are these lines which appear and then fade away - neat touch. ;)
(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/mbux-infotainment-system-detailed-to-come-standard-in-w177-a-class-122719_1.jpg)
UPDATE!
Just finished setting up my profile on the Mercedes Me website, which will further enhance the car and MBUX experience. This will all take effect later today when I drive the car out of the garage, the update should take effect after 20-30 minutes.
I also just downloaded the Mercedes Me app for my Android phone. Features such as locking/unlocking my car via my phone will be available. There is currently no information on my profile because I need to drive the car out of the garage, but it's midnight here and I am tired. Will do it later today.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Gt4Z7wDp/Screenshot-20181130-000421-Mercedes-me.jpg)
I forgot to mention that one of the features I ticked for my personal MBUX system is Car-To-X-Communication. :ohyeah:
Description in the link below.
Link: https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/innovation/car-to-x-communication/
(https://www.mercedes-benz.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/09/INNOVATION-car-to-x-Kommunikation_01-1230x740.jpg)
That's impressive...Expressed in simple terms, Car-to-X communication is the "radio-based exchange of information between vehicles, as well as between vehicles and traffic infrastructure," declares Dr. Christian Weiss, responsible for Car-to-X communication at Mercedes-Benz Development. "This has the advantage that we are also able to obtain information from points far outside the driver's field of vision, which is not the case with conventional sensors." This information provides the basis for a number of new assistance functions which complement the existing systems. "Car-to-X communication helps us let the driver know of hazardous situations early on
Presumably, it only talks to other MBs.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
That's impressive...Expressed in simple terms, Car-to-X communication is the "radio-based exchange of information between vehicles, as well as between vehicles and traffic infrastructure," declares Dr. Christian Weiss, responsible for Car-to-X communication at Mercedes-Benz Development. "This has the advantage that we are also able to obtain information from points far outside the driver's field of vision, which is not the case with conventional sensors." This information provides the basis for a number of new assistance functions which complement the existing systems. "Car-to-X communication helps us let the driver know of hazardous situations early on
Presumably, it only talks to other MBs.
Indeed. It's mind-blowing what they can do today.
And yes, this only works with other MBs right now, but I assume the industry will adopt a trend where all cars will "talk" to each other. ;)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 29, 2018, 04:24:43 PM
Indeed. It's mind-blowing what they can do today.
And yes, this only works with other MBs right now, but I assume the industry will adopt a trend where all cars will "talk" to each other. ;)
Mandatory for driverless cars, I would think.
This is like more advanced Waze. But until you get the entire industry on a standard, Waze will be better and faster.
I personally don't want my car having any network ability... Without some kind of well established/tested standard existing, who knows what security holes exist.
I feel like I am driving a Nissan "Playstation" GT-R... :tounge:
It's really fun to watch these values go up and down (or remain stable): kW (horsepower), torque, battery voltage and what I assume is turbo boost pressue (kPa).
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLPxpqrr/20181130-151045.jpg)
Quote from: r0tor on November 30, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
I personally don't want my car having any network ability... Without some kind of well established/tested standard existing, who knows what security holes exist.
In Europe this fear has now been taken care off with the introduction of
GDPR. They're ruthless about that here.
The companies handling your data have to provide transparency to you and other customers. You as the consumer now have the right and power to decide who handles your data, for how long and what to do with it etc.
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 29, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
Presumably, it only talks to other MBs.
Quote from: MrH on November 30, 2018, 10:49:23 AM
This is like more advanced Waze. But until you get the entire industry on a standard, Waze will be better and faster.
At least for Europe it is the defacto standard, and the EU has reserved the 5.9GHz frequency for this.
Companies which are onboard are: VW Group, BMW, Daimler, Peugeot/Citroen, Renault, and Volvo. Missing are the American, and Asian companies, as well as some such as Jaguar/Land Rover. VW Group is starting the roll out across all brands in 2019, not sure about the others.
Suppliers: Bosch, Denso, NEC, Continental, Swarco, and Siemens, probably more
In terms of infrastructure providers currently the national road operators of Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Slovenia, Sweden, and the United Kingdom are signed up.
The focus will be on heavily traveled roads first such as the 1.100km stretch of road from Rotterdam through Germany to Vienna.
The Germany state of Hesse is already using car to x on road construction sites.
Obviously this is a project with a very long time frame to become mainstream.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on November 30, 2018, 01:38:25 PM
In Europe this fear has now been taken care off with the introduction of GDPR. They're ruthless about that here.
The companies handling your data have to provide transparency to you and other customers. You as the consumer now have the right and power to decide who handles your data, for how long and what to do with it etc.
LOL. I think r0t0r is afraid of malicious third parties hacking the wireless protocol and gaining access to the CAN bus and so forth. GDPR only applies to lawful entities. Criminals don't give a shit.
Quote from: Laconian on November 30, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
LOL. I think r0t0r is afraid of malicious third parties hacking the wireless protocol and gaining access to the CAN bus and so forth.
Yea, this
Great looking car both interior and exterior! The white color looks very very good. Hatch much better than the sedan. Congratulations!
Quote from: Laconian on November 30, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
LOL. I think r0t0r is afraid of malicious third parties hacking the wireless protocol and gaining access to the CAN bus and so forth. GDPR only applies to lawful entities. Criminals don't give a shit.
Ah yes, those are the folks who piss on GDPR, and won't get punished. But GDPR, especially in Germany, aims to punish website owners, Facebook business page owners etc. for the slightest infractions... ugh...
Quote from: veeman on December 02, 2018, 05:45:39 AM
Great looking car both interior and exterior! The white color looks very very good. Hatch much better than the sedan. Congratulations!
Thanks! ;)
I'm loving it so far. Had it up to 210 km/h on the Autobahn earlier (no kickdown, just smooth acceleration), and you can tell this engine is eager and powerful. I am once again amazed at the refinement. There is no turbo lag and the engine feels like a 6-cylinder: it's that smooth.
I'm on another forum and a BMW 330ci owner bought a new Skoda Rapid for his family, and he is impressed with the refinement of the 4-cylinder engine in that Skoda. He also made a statement that the smoothness and NVH levels are incredible and on the same level of the inline-6 in his BMW.
But yeah, I really love the car. And yes, the hatchback is so much better-looking than the sedan. The A-Class Sedan should be the new CLA - not sure why they are offering both the A-Class Sedan and a new CLA...
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 03, 2018, 05:43:56 AM
Thanks! ;)
I'm loving it so far. Had it up to 210 km/h on the Autobahn earlier (no kickdown, just smooth acceleration), and you can tell this engine is eager and powerful. I am once again amazed at the refinement. There is no turbo lag and the engine feels like a 6-cylinder: it's that smooth.
I'm on another forum and a BMW 330ci owner bought a new Skoda Rapid for his family, and he is impressed with the refinement of the 4-cylinder engine in that Skoda. He also made a statement that the smoothness and NVH levels are incredible and on the same level of the inline-6 in his BMW.
But yeah, I really love the car. And yes, the hatchback is so much better-looking than the sedan. The A-Class Sedan should be the new CLA - not sure why they are offering both the A-Class Sedan and a new CLA...
Only 210? Pfffffff. My 86 Ranger could do 210 if the speedometer read that high.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 03, 2018, 05:40:22 AM
Ah yes, those are the folks who piss on GDPR, and won't get punished. But GDPR, especially in Germany, aims to punish website owners, Facebook business page owners etc. for the slightest infractions... ugh...
No I mean like hacking the wireless protocol and shutting your car off
Quote from: r0tor on December 03, 2018, 08:04:25 AM
No I mean like hacking the wireless protocol and shutting your car off
Locking you inside and ransoming you for Bitcoin while autodrives off a pier :lol:
The MMI flashes "WHERE'S YOUR PRECIOUS GDPR NOW, CHRISTIAN?"
Autodriving cars should open a new world for car thieves. Remotely hack into the car and program it to deliver itself to the chop shop.
Late to this, but congratulations on the new car and many thanks for doing such a great job chronicling it. Your enthusiasm is infectious!
Whoa, encountered my car's twin! This was also an A250 AMG Line! :rockon:
(https://i.postimg.cc/FKgMQXMg/A4434-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBx4VSXy/A4434-2.jpg)
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 03, 2018, 07:56:43 AM
Only 210? Pfffffff. My 86 Ranger could do 210 if the speedometer read that high.
I'll go faster if conditions allow. :praise:
I'm still taking it easy but I am now over 1000 km and I'm gonna really push the car when I get an opportunity.
Quote from: r0tor on December 03, 2018, 08:04:25 AM
No I mean like hacking the wireless protocol and shutting your car off
Yeah, that's an issue. I wonder if this is something that affects ALL modern cars. Wasn't some basic "low tech" Chrysler minivan hacked many years ago?
Quote from: Laconian on December 03, 2018, 12:32:17 PM
Locking you inside and ransoming you for Bitcoin while autodrives off a pier :lol:
The MMI flashes "WHERE'S YOUR PRECIOUS GDPR NOW, CHRISTIAN?"
Haha, I never wanted GDPR, especially in its current form which is so poorly thought out. As predicted all of Europe doesn't give a shit except Germany...
Trade this thing in for the A35 already:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-mercedes-amg-a35-hatchback-drive
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 04, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
Late to this, but congratulations on the new car and many thanks for doing such a great job chronicling it. Your enthusiasm is infectious!
Thank you! :cheers:
I'm really enjoying my new ride. This car has completely surpassed my expectations and it's even fun to drive. The engine is super smooth and eager and quite fuel efficient (the 7-DCT always keeps the engine at around 1100 RPM during normal city driving).
There are a few things which could have been designed better (rear window wiper controls for example) and the white body paint gets visibly dirty really quickly, but other than that I love the car.
Some smartphone snapshots I took today after
professionally shooting it with my DSLR and some lights. :ohyeah:
(https://i.postimg.cc/k45q152t/A-2343-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Rb7PHGf/A-2343-3.jpg)
Low down shot...
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrjZxwYF/A-2343-2.jpg)
Quote from: Xer0 on December 05, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
Trade this thing in for the A35 already:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2019-mercedes-amg-a35-hatchback-drive
:lol:
Car and Driver has geo blocked Europe because of GDPR... I can't view the link. :cry:
But one of my favorite Youtube car reviewers drove the A35 AMG in Mallorca and loves it. The sound is amazing. The upcoming A45/53 AMG should be insane.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MsxkKoI-Hs
Seriously? Thats stupid.
TL;DR on the review "Car is great, sounds fantastic, and transmission doesn't suck."
Quote from: Xer0 on December 05, 2018, 02:22:50 PM
Seriously? Thats stupid.
Yeah. So many good car magazines have geo blocked Europe.
Car and Driver and the eloquent
Automobile Magazine to name two.
I despise GDPR and the current Leftist-Green EU/German politicians we have to deal with here. :cry:
Quote from: Xer0 on December 05, 2018, 02:22:50 PMTL;DR on the review "Car is great, sounds fantastic, and transmission doesn't suck."
Sounds like a winner! :rockon:
I remember some reviews complained about the transmission in the CLA45 and GLA45 AMG.
Quote from: r0tor on November 30, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
I personally don't want my car having any network ability... Without some kind of well established/tested standard existing, who knows what security holes exist.
hopefully whatever infrastructure we end up with will not supplied by Huawei/ZTE...
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 07, 2018, 05:30:11 AM
hopefully whatever infrastructure we end up with will not supplied by Huawei/ZTE...
Yes, let's be afraid of a company from Devil China because they're from China. Forget the fact that Google, Apple, Facebook, and the US Gov't already watch everything that we do. China!
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 07, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
Yes, let's be afraid of a company from Devil China because they're from China. Forget the fact that Google, Apple, Facebook, and the US Gov't already watch everything that we do. China!
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 07, 2018, 11:29:27 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears
After the whole NSA scandal, they no longer have the moral right to complain about that. Makes me wonder if their fear is that they do not have any backdoors into Huawei equipment like they would have with cisco equipment.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 07, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
Yes, let's be afraid of a company from Devil China because they're from China. Forget the fact that Google, Apple, Facebook, and the US Gov't already watch everything that we do. China!
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 07, 2018, 11:29:27 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17011246/huawei-phones-safe-us-intelligence-chief-fears
Quote from: Galaxy on December 07, 2018, 12:16:45 PM
After the whole NSA scandal, they no longer have the moral right to complain about that. Makes me wonder if their fear is that they do not have any backdoors into Huawei equipment like they would have with cisco equipment.
Meh, I'd do something about the NSA if I could, but I accept it as an inevitability at this point. But I'm not worried about the NSA trying to use my info to access my financial accounts or open new lines of credit. I can't say the same about random Chinese companies.
I'm not worried about that with China, I'm more worried about industrial espionage stealing the crown IP jewels from Fortune 500 companies. The Chinese intelligence apparatus feeds this stuff directly to its domestic companies.
It's pretty disingenuous to equivocate China's activities with those of the West. It's an entirely different league of shady.
Quote from: Laconian on December 07, 2018, 01:06:30 PM
It's pretty disingenuous to equivocate China's activities with those of the West. It's an entirely different league of shady.
+1
The US follows what laws there are. China not so much.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 07, 2018, 02:34:16 PM
+1
The US follows what laws there are. China not so much.
Do they really? :hmm:
Quote from: Laconian on December 07, 2018, 01:06:30 PM
I'm not worried about that with China, I'm more worried about industrial espionage stealing the crown IP jewels from Fortune 500 companies. The Chinese intelligence apparatus feeds this stuff directly to its domestic companies.
It's pretty disingenuous to equivocate China's activities with those of the West. It's an entirely different league of shady.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 07, 2018, 02:34:16 PM
+1
The US follows what laws there are. China not so much.
Sorry, but with the US's ability to collect information, plus with an aggressive "America First" doctrine, the rest of the world has to assume that business intelligence will also be collected.
I understand why they have that suspicion, and there might be some truth to it, though the mountain of hard evidence we already have which points to China's practices WRT industrial espionage and collusion between the CCP and industry indicate that China is in a whole different risk category. Imagine what's below the iceberg.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 07, 2018, 07:48:28 AM
Yes, let's be afraid of a company from Devil China because they're from China. Forget the fact that Google, Apple, Facebook, and the US Gov't already watch everything that we do. China!
I doubt Google, Apple & the rest have communist party committees embedded in their organizational structures à la Huawei.
The US has its problems but painting its institutions morally equivalent to those of a one-party socialist state is going a bit far IMO.
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 07, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
I doubt Google, Apple & the rest have communist party committees embedded in their organizational structures à la Huawei.
The US has its problems but painting its institutions morally equivalent to those of a one-party socialist state is going a bit far IMO.
NSA :ohyeah:.
Quote from: Morris Minor on December 07, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
The US has its problems but painting its institutions morally equivalent to those of a one-party socialist state is going a bit far IMO.
Under Obama-US, or Bush-US yes, but Trump said we are "Almost as bad as China, just smaller," so I would assume for him to act accordingly.
Congratulations on the new car, Wimmer. I hope you get a lot of driving pleasure from it, preferably at high speed. :evildude:
Well the sedan is good for something... :tounge:
Photoshop PHriday!
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvRP69H0/2019-Mercedes-Benz-A-Class-Sedan-Police-Interceptor.jpg)
Cracked 220 km/h in my car today in COMFORT MODE. Didn't push it further because I am still getting used to it and because of heavy side winds, I backed down after snapping this photo. At this speed and in this mode the car is a little difficult to control, particularly because the suspension is too soft.
On the return trip I selected SPORT MODE, and wow, what a difference, the car drove so much better. The suspension hardened up providing you with more stability at high speeds. Pretty amazing! One downside to sport mode is that the transmission takes longer to shift up, essentially forcing you to manually up-shift most of the time. In fact the transmission won't really shift up until you more or less reach redline. This is not always the case because after awhile the transmission will upshift if it senses that you're cruising. In this mode downshifting is excellent (in comfort mode downshifting is sometimes delayed forcing you to manually shift down using the paddle shifters).
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvVZzxbK/D96-BD9-AA-6702-4-E54-A2-A5-15-D1778-C9-C7-F.jpg)
Next time, set the cruise at 220, turn on the lane assist, and take a snooze. :zzz:
=136 mph.
Not bad.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 09, 2018, 02:17:01 PM
=136 mph.
Not bad.
Thank you for the translation.
(I'm not used to these Johnny Foreigner measurement systems.)
Quote from: Galaxy on December 07, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
Sorry, but with the US's ability to collect information, plus with an aggressive "America First" doctrine, the rest of the world has to assume that business intelligence will also be collected.
In the US though the government doesn't report to businesses. Businesses aren't owned by the government.
Thankfully, the people in the intelligence community are a little insulated from Congress (the people getting rich from "lobbying" (bribery)) so any intelligence collected doesn't go there.
China is different- the industrial spying goes straight to companies.
From: Xi Jinping
To: Jack Ma
Subject: FWD: Coca Cola Classic Recipe
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on December 09, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
Next time, set the cruise at 220, turn on the lane assist, and take a snooze. :zzz:
I always turn off Lane Assist, Parking Aid (except in the garage) and sometimes ESP.
Why?
Because I find those systems too aggressive. Lane Assist and Parking Aid even spring into action in the city if there's a patch of black ice on the road.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 09, 2018, 02:17:01 PM
=136 mph.
Not bad.
Officially the A250 has a top speed of 250 km/h (155 mph) but some testers have only reached 243 km/h (152 mph). :lol:
My winter tires are limited to 240 km/h.
With an abandoned Mercedes-Benz L710 "Kurzhauber" truck. :wub:
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnLQKF3B/MB-710-16.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8z2kBCPQ/MB-710-17.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xv9j20pZ/MB-710-18.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJ3VmDCs/MB-710-19.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLKwNj7D/MB-710-20.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Nx3J49p/MB-710-21.jpg)
That truck is awesome.
Kurzhauber- short cover?
Oh, and nice car too.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 10, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
That truck is awesome.
It's one of my favorite MB trucks. Total legend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_short-bonnet_trucks
More detailed shots in the
Spotted Today thread here. ;)
https://www.carspin.club/index.php?topic=977.msg2395620#new
Just programmed my own Individual driving setup.
I generally keep the car in Comfort mode which is great for most situations. There's only one problem; in this mode at higher speeds on the Autobahn, the suspension is too soft and the steering feedback is a touch too vague. This makes controlling the car difficult. Sport mode takes care of these issues. However, Sport mode is too aggressive in terms of transmission management (you need to manually up-shift or drive near the redline zone for the transmission to automatically up-shift) which means louder engine noise and a higher fuel consumption.
What to do? Create your own mode! Here's what I did.
Transmission Mode: Comfort
Suspension Mode: Sport
Steering Mode: Sport
ESP Mode: Sport
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMNFQmTq/20181211-150814.jpg)
It's incredible and really gives me what I want. One downside to the sport suspension mode is that it's really quite hard/harsh. It does provide you with superb and easy control of the car, but the trade-off is more noise and less comfort, especially on our crappy amateurishly patched-up German road surfaces (don't believe the myth that Germany's roads are all smooth).
I am amazed at how you can feel the different modes take over. I could be cruising in comfort mode with the comfortable suspension and somewhat light steering feedback, then switch to sport mode (or now my Individual mode) and instantly feel the steering feedback and suspension tighten and change in character. Amazing stuff!
One more thing. I love the power this thing has on tap. Overtaking long columns of trucks and slower cars on country roads is a breeze. The A250 is incredibly responsive and accelerates very fast! This is seriously a fast car! I can only imagine how brutal the A35 AMG is and how utterly barbaric and uncivilized the upcoming A45 AMG will be!
Some new late afternoon snapshots. Man, I am so in love. (https://www.carspin.club/Smileys/carspin/wub.gif)
Can't wait for the summer when the really nice AMG wheels come on!
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5qN3jrJ/Wimmer-A250-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RnJVQR6/Wimmer-A250-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNcdVfMx/Wimmer-A250-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QCf8rTB9/Wimmer-A250-4.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 11, 2018, 10:31:13 AM
Just programmed my own Individual driving setup.
I generally keep the car in Comfort mode which is great for most situations. There's only one problem; in this mode at higher speeds on the Autobahn, the suspension is too soft and the steering feedback is a touch too vague. This makes controlling the car difficult. Sport mode takes care of these issues. However, Sport mode is too aggressive in terms of transmission management (you need to manually up-shift or drive near the redline zone for the transmission to automatically up-shift) which means louder engine noise and a higher fuel consumption.
What to do? Create your own mode! Here's what I did.
Transmission Mode: Comfort
Suspension Mode: Sport
Steering Mode: Sport
ESP Mode: Sport
(https://i.postimg.cc/QCf8rTB9/Wimmer-A250-4.jpg)
That is a really nice shot.
What is ESP mode, does it read your mind?
:lol:
I assume it's the stability control...Electronic Stability Program or something.
ROFL, I wonder what you'd say about US roads...
Did you ever just wish the car had 1 suspension setting that was just right?
In Alfa land the standard non adjustable suspension is about the perfect blend of sport and comfort. The adaptive suspension is either more comfortable or more sporty... Not sure it's really progress
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 10, 2018, 04:13:10 AM
I always turn off Lane Assist, Parking Aid (except in the garage) and sometimes ESP.
Why?
Because I find those systems too aggressive. Lane Assist and Parking Aid even spring into action in the city if there's a patch of black ice on the road.
Why would you ever possibly need to turn ESP off?
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 11, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
Why would you ever possibly need to turn ESP off?
Doritos...?
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 11, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
Why would you ever possibly need to turn ESP off?
So you know what the car does when it fails from overheating?
So you can learn to not overdrive a car and get in over your head?
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 11, 2018, 11:54:34 AM
That is a really nice shot.
Glad you like it.
Samsung Galaxy S8 for the win! :tounge:
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 11, 2018, 11:54:34 AM
What is ESP mode, does it read your mind?
Extra Sensory Perception - a new and improved feature of MBUX. Now I just have to think what I want and if it's in the realm of possibility the system will do it... :thumbsup:
Quote from: Laconian on December 11, 2018, 12:26:37 PM
ROFL, I wonder what you'd say about US roads...
I am not exaggerating when I say the quality of road surfaces here has taken a hit. Even some bridges are at risk of collapsing from increased truck traffic and years of neglect. It's really sad and pathetic how this can happen in this country where we pay hefty taxes.
What really bothers me about Munich and local roads is that for some reason there are sewer covers all over the place. A say 50 meter long stretch of road has like a bazillion sewer covers, and many of them are about an inch below the road surface - makes a nice sound and certainly isn't good for your car's suspension when you have to drive through them (I avoid it if possible and it will look like I am driving drunk!).
Here, the current state of many German roads...
(http://www.maz-online.de/var/storage/images/maz/lokales/bildergalerien-region/2017/8/ueber-diese-strassen-aergern-sich-die-maz-leser/79bb1c80-8367-11e7-8f02-dd180ddead23/614885795-1-ger-DE/79bb1c80-8367-11e7-8f02-dd180ddead23_gallery_detail.jpg)
(https://www.wiwo.de/images/strassenschaeden/7578004/2-formatOriginal.jpg)
(http://www.maz-online.de/var/storage/images/maz/brandenburg/warum-sind-unsere-strassen-so-schlecht/614886025-2-ger-DE/Warum-sind-unsere-Strassen-so-schlecht_big_teaser_article.jpg)
(https://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/405295861/1.5691847/format_top1_breit/schlagloch-in-hannover-das.jpg)
Quote from: r0tor on December 11, 2018, 06:14:34 PM
Did you ever just wish the car had 1 suspension setting that was just right?
In Alfa land the standard non adjustable suspension is about the perfect blend of sport and comfort. The adaptive suspension is either more comfortable or more sporty... Not sure it's really progress
I sure do.
For most situations
Comfort Mode is actually pretty good. It's not bad when you drive a little sporty on country roads. It's also good on the Autobahn
until you go past 200 km/h (125 mph), then it's simply too soft and suddenly becomes a little floatish.
Sport Mode is ideal for fast driving and for some enthusiastic driving out in the countryside, but it's really harsh and loud, especially on horrible road surfaces.
I am still in awe at how the suspension (and steering feebdack) can change so dramatically at the flick of a button!
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 12, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
Glad you like it. Samsung Galaxy S8 for the win! :tounge:
Seriously? Nah.
Quote
Extra Sensory Perception - a new and improved feature of MBUX. Now I just have to think what I want and if it's in the realm of possibility the system will do it... :thumbsup:
That reminds me of the novel Firefox (https://www.amazon.ca/Firefox-Craig-Thomas/dp/0718115708), about a Soviet era fighter jet that the pilot can control by thought impulses. Pretty good movie as well. :ohyeah:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 11, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
Why would you ever possibly need to turn ESP off?
It's a little too aggressive with some unexpected and annoying braking maneuvers when it detects whatever. The last time the system annoyed me I was at a light, the light turned green, I accelerate and suddenly the ESP warning light flashes, the front wheels go into full braking mode even though I am on the accelerator pedal. I found that very annoying and dangerous - the traffic behind me wouldn't expect me to brake after accelerating at a green light. I don't even know why the system did that. Since then I turn it off.
Likewise,
Lane Assist is just annoying when I get too close to the left side of the fast lane or right side of the slow lane on the Autobahn or country roads. On country roads you're actually supposed to keep far right if you're going slower than the permitted speed (usually 100 km/h) to allow others to pass you. The system just keeps nagging with forced steering wheel vibrations, an alarming beep and a bird's eye view of the car with the left/right half highlighted in an alarming red. That's the reason I turn it off.
The rear
Parking Camera has an annoying habit of turning itself on and activating the
360 degree bird's eye park assist when you're in traffic and people or cyclists cross your rear - the rear parking camera underneath the Mercedes trunk star will pop out because it seems to think I am backing into a wall... :tounge: Turn off the system from the start and it won't happen. :ohyeah:
So, typical procedure when I start the car...
1) Turn off Start/Stop
2) Turn off Parking Assist Camera
3) Turn off Lane Assist
4) Turn off ESP
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 12, 2018, 02:33:38 PM
Seriously? Nah.
Totally serious. The S8 has a great camera, which I also leave in HDR mode the whole time. That way you tend to achieve some really almost perfectly exposed images. :ohyeah:
I also like the small aperture effect, which creates blur (visible in the second photo).
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjJb43xt/A250-Speedos-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYc4w2p0/A250-Speedos-2.jpg)
But for a camera which takes amazing, high quality day and later afternoon shots, the S8 camera has some really piss poor night snapshot capabilities in poorly light areas (my previous Windows phones had good night snapshot capabilities). The night shots are noisy, understandable since ISO is jacked up, but also mushy and lack detail.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 12, 2018, 02:33:38 PMThat reminds me of the novel Firefox (https://www.amazon.ca/Firefox-Craig-Thomas/dp/0718115708), about a Soviet era fighter jet that the pilot can control by thought impulses. Pretty good movie as well. :ohyeah:
Great movie with Clint Eastwood IIRC! :praise:
Yay! :tounge:
The big winner in the 'Small Family Cars' segment is the latest Mercedes-Benz A-Class. The compact hatchback managed to outscore its main rivals, earning 96 percent, 91 percent and 92 percent in Adult Occupant, Child Occupant and Pedestrian protection, as well as 75 percent in Safety Assist.
Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2018/12/euro-ncap-2018-best-class-cars-announced/
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 12, 2018, 02:48:03 PM
It's a little too aggressive with some unexpected and annoying braking maneuvers when it detects whatever. The last time the system annoyed me I was at a light, the light turned green, I accelerate and suddenly the ESP warning light flashes, the front wheels go into full braking mode even though I am on the accelerator pedal. I found that very annoying and dangerous - the traffic behind me wouldn't expect me to brake after accelerating at a green light. I don't even know why the system did that. Since then I turn it off.
Likewise, Lane Assist is just annoying when I get too close to the left side of the fast lane or right side of the slow lane on the Autobahn or country roads. On country roads you're actually supposed to keep far right if you're going slower than the permitted speed (usually 100 km/h) to allow others to pass you. The system just keeps nagging with forced steering wheel vibrations, an alarming beep and a bird's eye view of the car with the left/right half highlighted in an alarming red. That's the reason I turn it off.
The rear Parking Camera has an annoying habit of turning itself on and activating the 360 degree bird's eye park assist when you're in traffic and people or cyclists cross your rear - the rear parking camera underneath the Mercedes trunk star will pop out because it seems to think I am backing into a wall... :tounge: Turn off the system from the start and it won't happen. :ohyeah:
So, typical procedure when I start the car...
1) Turn off Start/Stop
2) Turn off Parking Assist Camera
3) Turn off Lane Assist
4) Turn off ESP
Sounds like junk. You should return it and get a Prius. :lol:
That simulated depth of field is iffy. The way it's blurring the dash suggests that the dash is curving toward or away from the camera. Obviously neither is the case; the screen is flat planar and being viewed head-on, so the entire surface should be uniformly in focus.
The Pixel does simulated DOF based on a calculated depth map.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 12, 2018, 03:00:45 PM
Sounds like junk. You should return it and get a Prius. :lol:
Why would I want a Prius when I can get this
beauty monstrosity? :lol:
(https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/toyota-mirai-rt-2016-ac-722.jpg?itok=AavgnB7g)
Quote from: Laconian on December 12, 2018, 03:04:08 PM
That simulated depth of field is kind of amateurish. The way it's blurring the dash suggests that the dash is curving toward or away from the camera. Obviously neither is the case; the screen is flat planar and being viewed head-on, so the entire surface should be uniformly in focus.
The Pixel does simulated DOF based on a calculated depth map.
It's a simple "artistic effect" on a phone. I like using it when I want the viewer to focus on something particular.
Below the "710" is sharp, and the left foreground is very blurry. It doesn't give you a true say f1.8 effect, but I don't think it looks that awful. :tounge:
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3YdJ192/MB-710-New-Pics-9.jpg)
Hey Wimmer,
I don't know if you're familiar with it, but how do you take good cell phone camera shots?
I have an iPhone X. Occasionally, I take a decent picture, but most of the time they come out looking like balls. Some people, who at least claim to be photographers, swear by it (at least as phone cameras go), but I'm sure that goes for most flagship phones. Do you know how to take proper cell phone pictures?
Congratulations, Wimmer! Really good looking car. Those 360 degree parking cameras are pretty amazing, I have to be honest. I rented a Nissan Armada recently, which is bigger than my old apartment, and I was able to park that thing no problem because of those cameras.
Quote from: Submariner on December 13, 2018, 12:00:41 PM
Hey Wimmer,
I don't know if you're familiar with it, but how do you take good cell phone camera shots?
I have an iPhone X. Occasionally, I take a decent picture, but most of the time they come out looking like balls. Some people, who at least claim to be photographers, swear by it (at least as phone cameras go), but I'm sure that goes for most flagship phones. Do you know how to take proper cell phone pictures?
Yo Zach,
Sorry for the late reply.
I'd say in order to achieve good quality cellphone camera shots you need to:
1) know the strengths and weaknesses of your smartphone
and
2) shoot the subject(s) in interesting locations using good quality light (early morning / late afternoon = soft light, soft shadows, emotional atmosphere) and with good framing/composition
So for example, the Samsung Galaxy S8 takes great photos in normal or HDR mode. The focus is quick and sharp, the exposure tends to be very good. Those are its strengths. Weaknesses? Crap picture quality at night in poorly light areas, even with long exposure. It's essentially useless at night.
That's my best advice. The location, lighting and composition is something you will have to decide and create yourself. Go out and experiment. ;)
Quote from: Raza on December 14, 2018, 06:55:05 AM
Congratulations, Wimmer! Really good looking car. Those 360 degree parking cameras are pretty amazing, I have to be honest. I rented a Nissan Armada recently, which is bigger than my old apartment, and I was able to park that thing no problem because of those cameras.
Thank you! ;)
I do appreciate the technology on this car, and the 360-degree parking feature is very useful!
Where have you been? I've noticed your absence!
Received my car tax in the mail a few days ago.
My yearly car tax for the A250 is 180,- Euros.
That's actually fine considering the yearly tax for the BMW was 135,- Euros!
Recently discovered a cool feature in the car; how much accelerator pedal and brake pedal pressure (in percent) you're exerting. Not sure what the point is of this, but hey, it's cool in a silly sort of way. (https://www.carspin.club/Smileys/carspin/tongue.gif)
Love how in the graphic the wheels spin when the car is in motion and stop when the car is not moving. :lol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/CL1D03B7/20181216-131259.jpg)
Probably an accelerometer showing you roughly how many Gs you're accelerating/decelerating, at some arbitrary "percentage".
Quote from: 93JC on December 19, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
Probably an accelerometer showing you roughly how many Gs you're accelerating/decelerating, at some arbitrary "percentage".
Eh? I'd assume it's the throttle-by-wire system (and brake pedal position sensor of some sort) indicating the pedal's position. Like a video game.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 19, 2018, 06:52:45 PM
Eh? I'd assume it's the throttle-by-wire system (and brake pedal position sensor of some sort) indicating the pedal's position. Like a video game.
That was my assumption
I was about to say "I thought of just using the throttle position sensor data, but surely it wouldn't have a 'brake pedal position sensor' that output position that way. Usually it's just a glorified switch that turns the brake lights on and turns the cruise control off."
And then I remember this is a brand-new German car, so it probably does have one. Never mind.
Quote from: 93JC on December 19, 2018, 07:57:20 PM
I was about to say "I thought of just using the throttle position sensor data, but surely it wouldn't have a 'brake pedal position sensor' that output position that way. Usually it's just a glorified switch that turns the brake lights on and turns the cruise control off."
And then I remember this is a brand-new German car, so it probably does have one. Never mind.
BMWs have an extra brake light bulb to make it brighter for hard stops, which I assume is determined by brake pressure (as opposed to an accelerometer). IIRC, they started doing that with the E90, so like 2006.
I also wonder if they could extract that info from traction/stability control systems. Not pedal pressure, but fluid pressure in the lines.
I tried to patent variable pressure sensative brake lights 15 years ago but was already beaten to it... Boo
Quote from: 93JC on December 19, 2018, 07:57:20 PM
I was about to say "I thought of just using the throttle position sensor data, but surely it wouldn't have a 'brake pedal position sensor' that output position that way. Usually it's just a glorified switch that turns the brake lights on and turns the cruise control off."
And then I remember this is a brand-new German car, so it probably does have one. Never mind.
Or a pressure sensor in the brake line.
Quote from: r0tor on December 20, 2018, 04:14:31 AM
I tried to patent variable pressure sensative brake lights 15 years ago but was already beaten to it... Boo
Delphi had a concept Tahoe that did all that in the mid '90s.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 20, 2018, 12:17:54 AM
BMWs have an extra brake light bulb to make it brighter for hard stops, which I assume is determined by brake pressure (as opposed to an accelerometer). IIRC, they started doing that with the E90, so like 2006.
I also wonder if they could extract that info from traction/stability control systems. Not pedal pressure, but fluid pressure in the lines.
I first saw that on a new-ish Mini last week. Did a double take because I was like "I thought their brake lights were already on?..."
I never understood why brake lights aren't variable. So many traffic jams and accidents are caused by not knowing if the person in front of you is slamming on the brakes, normally on the brakes, or just barely touching the brakes... and the collective guessing chain reacts into an incident
Quote from: 93JC on December 19, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
Probably an accelerometer showing you roughly how many Gs you're accelerating/decelerating, at some arbitrary "percentage".
I do have a G-Force meter in the car. It replaces the digital RPM gauge if you activate it. :lol:
I absolutely love my G Meter
Quote from: r0tor on December 22, 2018, 10:28:18 AM
I absolutely love my G Meter
I've not been able to properly test it yet.
One day I want to drive to the Nürburgring and just drive a few laps (I think you pay for three laps) for fun and see how that red ball in the center of the G-Force meter will really move!
Meh... I hit 0.74g in the rain yesterday :lol:
Quote from: r0tor on December 22, 2018, 01:52:59 PM
Meh... I hit 0.74g in the rain yesterday :lol:
What did you crash into? :evildude:
Quote from: r0tor on December 22, 2018, 01:52:59 PM
Meh... I hit 0.74g in the rain yesterday :lol:
Nice! :rockon:
Here is my G-Force meter...
(https://i.postimg.cc/g2PvKgQC/20181223-142340.jpg)
Some awful videos I made... :tounge:
Quick Exterior & Interior Tour (Sorry about the sound quality in some exterior scenes...)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtMZLmg3E9g
Quick MBUX Demonstration
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKTTYizy3xE
Quick Other Features Demonstration
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtUYD3-_iGs
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 15, 2018, 09:10:22 AM
Thank you! ;)
I do appreciate the technology on this car, and the 360-degree parking feature is very useful!
Where have you been? I've noticed your absence!
Oh, I've been around. I did go to Napa and Maui for a few weeks, that was nice. I had the Armada in Napa.
Quote from: Raza on December 24, 2018, 08:43:50 AM
Oh, I've been around. I did go to Napa and Maui for a few weeks, that was nice. I had the Armada in Napa.
Good to have you back. :cheers:
In Fucking, Austria (real place). :thumbsup:
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pF5CnLF/003089-DA-10-D0-4-E67-BD36-6-D263-DE3-CFD4.jpg)
Historic city center of Burghausen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjNqc2M2/44072284-890-E-4371-B367-72744-F05-F68-C.jpg)
Some awful drive-past scenes. Took them with my Samsung Galaxy S8 mounted on a DJI Osmo 2 Gimball on a tripod.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EhNtYza390
What the A-Class started out as and what it is now! What a difference!
(https://i.postimg.cc/657F4pVR/20190102-164453.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 25, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
In Fucking, Austria (real place). :thumbsup:
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pF5CnLF/003089-DA-10-D0-4-E67-BD36-6-D263-DE3-CFD4.jpg)
Historic city center of Burghausen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjNqc2M2/44072284-890-E-4371-B367-72744-F05-F68-C.jpg)
Fucking looks really nice. I would like to visit it. (Actually Burghausen looks nicer than Fucking, but that spoils the whole play on words.) The car looks sweet too, Chris. I hope you're having lots of fun with it. I hope to see some proof of that fun soon. :evildude:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on December 25, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Historic city center of Burghausen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jjNqc2M2/44072284-890-E-4371-B367-72744-F05-F68-C.jpg)
Those lumps of cement look to be a real hazard for the unwary driver.
Quote from: dazzleman on January 05, 2019, 07:00:40 AM
Fucking looks really nice. I would like to visit it. (Actually Burghausen looks nicer than Fucking, but that spoils the whole play on words.) The car looks sweet too, Chris. I hope you're having lots of fun with it. I hope to see some proof of that fun soon. :evildude:
When you come here let me know! We can go to Fucking together. :thumbsup:
And yep, I am having so much fun! Look how
fast I am driving! :winkguy:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqzMB7v6/Fun-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqPDr862/Fun-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2cgz4Q2/Fun-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qRjbFpbG/Fun-4.jpg)
Joking aside, the car is a lot of fun. It's not as engaging as the BMW, and definitely not as fun from a pure driving perspective, but it is still enjoyable to drive. That engine is a gem. I kid you not it feels like a 6-cylinder - so refined and smooth, and no turbo-lag!
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 05, 2019, 07:48:18 AM
Those lumps of cement look to be a real hazard for the unwary driver.
I'm more worried about the cobblestone road. It's like unnecessary abuse for the suspension. :tounge:
I've always wondered why they can't cover these cobblestone roads with a type of see-through gel-foam-like substance.
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 05, 2019, 10:35:41 AM
When you come here let me know! We can go to Fucking together. :thumbsup:
And yep, I am having so much fun! Look how fast I am driving! :winkguy:
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqzMB7v6/Fun-1.jpg)
Good to see Russell enjoying the ride.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 06, 2019, 05:38:10 AM
Good to see Russell enjoying the ride.
He loves it. He's my little "Guard Wombat"! :tounge:
Light-painted image of
"Priscilla" (her name). :lol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MKw2sYgb/Foggy-Night-Effect.jpg)
When the snow covers the forward-facing radar and prevents it from functioning, this little warning pops up!
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZFMRRnp/20181216-135432.jpg)
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 07, 2019, 11:46:58 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZFMRRnp/20181216-135432.jpg)
For those who aren't linguists, "verschmutzt" is German for "f*ked"
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 08, 2019, 09:21:16 AM
For those who aren't linguists, "verschmutzt" is German for "f*ked"
:lol:
It actually means "dirty" and in this case often refers to "dirt covering something."
We just say it's got some schmutz on it
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 08, 2019, 06:06:00 PM
:lol:
It actually means "dirty" and in this case often refers to "dirt covering something."
"besmirched" although its a rarely used word.
Quote from: r0tor on January 08, 2019, 06:26:05 PM
We just say it's got some schmutz on it
:lol:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 08, 2019, 07:07:41 PM
"besmirched" although its a rarely used word.
Beschmiert :ohyeah:
Indeed! I have not heard that word in ages, and I live in this country where that language is spoken! :lol:
Hanging out with some older members of the Mercedes family... :tounge:
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxHgkq6W/20190108-144051.jpg)
Road Trip around snow-covered Bavaria!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9LGkKxm/Trip-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jj5ngJwc/Trip-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1rKLVFd/Trip-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqftvbmD/Trip-4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7P7GW46F/Trip-5.jpg)
Some pics of "Priscilla" with her 19" AMG Multispoke LMR wheels! God damn. :wub:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sfqJJH0d/Wimmer-A250-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nj77BsGB/Wimmer-A250-2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W3K0Xt86/Wimmer-A250-3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2zrbLpT/Wimmer-A250-6.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3r4XWCrL/Wimmer-A250-7.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MzGdydQ/Wimmer-A250-4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Mp8bCMS9/Wimmer-A250-5.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJSsgsL4/Wimmer-A250-8.jpg)