Considering purchase cost and cost of ownership what would you consider to be your ideal personal vehicle fleet.
Since I'm retiring next year (yeah) and moving to a house that we will renovate I want/need the following:
2007 Mazda6. The comfortable cruiser for around town or long trips we want to make in comfort. Alaready own this.
1995 Miata. Top down fun car for whenever. Already own this.
1996-2002 Ford F150, smallest engine, manual transmission. For trips to the dump and hauling building supplies and the winter beater to leave at the bottom of the hill when it snows. Looking for a $2,500 truck (the kind your wife would be ashamed to be seen in).
????. The toy. The fun car or project as per the "What to get next" thread.
Hmmm. There just a chance I may just need three of the above.
How about you?
1. Skoda Yeti 2.0 Tdi daily driver, winter beater, stuff hauler. I don't know why, but I absolutely love this car! Perfect dimensions for the city and still large enough on the inside to be usable plus a brilliant engine.
2. UJM, I don't care what model exactly, but something with a comfortable riding position to putter around on.
3. Miata! I was going to say Elise, but I'd be a little too paranoid about people ruining the shells at low speeds and such.
4. Mercedes-Benz W123 to look cool while parked in my yard (and to work on)
Comfortable Cruiser = Mercedes-Benz E-Class
Top Down Fun Car = Audi R8 Spyder
Fun Car = Peugeot RCZ
Beater = Mercedes-Benz W123
Pickup-and-bang-college-girls-car = Citroen DS5 :winkguy:
Fuck-the-environmentalists-car = Ford F-650
Current Garage:
- 2007 Ford Explorer
- 2003 Ford SVT Focus 5 door
Ideal garage taking into account lifestyle, financials, and space:
- 2007 Ford Explorer
- 2010 Infiniti G37 Sedan
- 2011 Dodge Charger R/T or 2009 Pontiac G8 GT
Currently:
2007 WRX
1991 EX500
Ideal:
2008+STI
Some sort of beater truck for offroading/moving stuff. Ideally a Taco, but could be a 90s K1500.
Triumph Speed Triple or Tiger.
Assuming I had room for them, and a somewhat realistic financial situation:
Daily driver: Chevy Camaro SS convertible
Road trip car: Hyundai Genesis 4.6 sedan, or Chrysler 300S V8 (or the Executive edition)
Track project: V8 Miata
And if I really wanted to indulge myself with something useless, I'd pick up like an early-80's Eldorado convertible for cruising, nights on the town, and whatnot.
Hmm
Volkswagen Golf TDI 6MT: Daily driver
Ford Mustang GT (5.0) 6MT: Road trip/touring car
Porsche Boxster S 6MT (987): Sports car
If something can't fit into the Golf, I'll rent.
I've done the multi-car thing many times - daily + fun car, daily + beater truck, daily + beater 4WD rig. The extra work to maintain/use more than one vehicle is just not worth it at this stage of my life (too busy and not near retirement :lol: ) so now I only have one do-it-all rig (for me at least with augmentation; snow tires, bike rack, ski rack - 4WD days are long over and I hire out anything that would need a truck).
Current:
2005 Accord
Ideal/future:
Something of as practical ilk (TBD) - 4 doors, comfortably carry 4 adults, reliable, driveable on dirt roads and in snow.
1990 restored Miata - will have that in a year or so.
2009 RX-8 R3- check
1993-94 RX-7 - working on that. Again. Fucking Ice and sleds.
Some kind of truck. Perhaps a Toyota Tacoma. Like it to be small like the old Mazda B2000's or Toyotas. But they don't make that anymore.
If I have room a 1991 RX-7 Turbo II and a 1984-85 RX-7 GSL-SE
Multiple rigs make sense to me if you have the space & tools & time to deal with them. I'm very simple.
DD: Mildly modded SR20 equipped small car (B13 Sentra, P10 G20, etc). Don't need anything fancy or overbearing.
Fun/weekend car: NSX or 996 C2. Something that's at home on the track and on a weekend getaway
Bike: Big standard, like an FZ1 or Ninja 1000. I love the "do it all" ness of my bike, just wish it had some more power. If it winds up being fixable I might do a performance build on the engine next winter.
I'd prob indulge in a few cheap projects too. I'd really love to build a cafe racer beater out of an old Nighthawk or even an old Japanese cruiser. Etc. I like to have projects. But I'd keep the DD cheap and mild
Quote from: sportyaccordy on November 17, 2011, 01:07:32 PM
Multiple rigs make sense to me if you have the space & tools & time to deal with them. I'm very simple.
DD: Mildly modded SR20 equipped small car (B13 Sentra, P10 G20, etc). Don't need anything fancy or overbearing.
Fun/weekend car: NSX or 996 C2. Something that's at home on the track and on a weekend getaway
Bike: Big standard, like an FZ1 or Ninja 1000. I love the "do it all" ness of my bike, just wish it had some more power. If it winds up being fixable I might do a performance build on the engine next winter.
I'd prob indulge in a few cheap projects too. I'd really love to build a cafe racer beater out of an old Nighthawk or even an old Japanese cruiser. Etc. I like to have projects. But I'd keep the DD cheap and mild
Speaking of bikes, I'd like to find an old, 62-65, Honda 90 or 160 and restore it, for no other reason than to do it.
(http://www.adclassix.com/images/64honda90scooter.jpg)
(http://p1.bikepics.com/2006%5C11%5C29%5Cbikepics-735006-320.jpg)
Family car... Kia Optima 2.0T
Winter car... Range Rover
Jenn's car... '65 Mustang Convertible
My car... FFR MkIV Cobra, or Porsche 911.
For me, I'd do a full coilover / swaybar swap on the Miata, and deck it out with exhaust, rollbar, brakes, wheels, and hardtop and use it as an AutoX/track car, and then get a Jetta TDI Sportwagen as a daily driver, and an older 4Runner or Tacoma with an MT as my practical truck when I need to haul stuff.
Interesting.
My current "ideal" garage for my needs/wants/purposes:
1 (Daily Driver/"Everything Else" Car)- 4 door sedan, likely a late model Altima, Fusion, G8 or similar.
2 (Occasional use/bad weather/hauling stuff)- A pickup of some sort, probably a 4WD Tacoma, Tundra, or late model F150.
What I project I'll want/would be appropriate in a few more years:
1- A midsize near luxury/luxury car- along the lines of an A4/IS/CTS or A6/GS/E Class (which level of price probably depends on how nice the second vehicle is)
2- An SUV of some sort or a 4 door pickup.
I've said it before.
7 sports cars, one for each day of the week, all from my childhood want list, plus what I have now.
1) 2002 Z06 (owned)
2) MKIII supra turbo (owned, sentimental value)
3) MKIV Supra Turbo
4) 2nd gen Viper RT/10
5) NSX
6) FD-RX7
7) 201? GT-R (doesn't fit the others, but I need one)
Quote from: MiataJohn on November 17, 2011, 01:39:48 PM
Speaking of bikes, I'd like to find an old, 62-65, Honda 90 or 160 and restore it, for no other reason than to do it.
(http://www.adclassix.com/images/64honda90scooter.jpg)
(http://p1.bikepics.com/2006%5C11%5C29%5Cbikepics-735006-320.jpg)
Same here. Those are neat little bikes.
My current fleet:
- El Camino
- Saturn SL2
Ideal:
- El Camino
- VW bus, decked out with a surfboard and such. Probably upgraded engine, suspension, new wheels, etc. ["family" car, if i need more than 2 seats]
- BMW M3 (E30) or Datsun 510, in road rally trim. [weekend and track car]
- A motorcycle or two. Probably a new one and then an old fixer upper. Don't know exactly what, though.
Car for significant other: Audi A4/A6 Avant.
Car for me: E90 M3
Utility vehicle: Toyota 4Runner (preferably a Trail)
Because I love them: A 993.
My truck
The diesel X5
650 convertible in silver with light grey interior
750Li in metallic black with the white-ish interior.
1971 Cutlass convertible green with green/white interior with a 455ci engine.
Everyday car (mine): Civic Si sedan
Everyday car (wife): Jaguar XF
Kiddie Hauler/ Tow rig: Suburban
Fun car (mine) : WCM S2K ultralight
Fun car (wife): the most direct replacement of the 2001 S2000 she still longs for.
The "which way to Vegas?" car: 1968 Coupe Deville, restomod.
The "What mid-life crisis?" car: Ford GT
The "The world ended and I never noticed car": Russian BMP-1
The basic all-around bike: Kawasaki KLR-650
The "no, I'm not completely suicidal" bike: Harley V-rod
The " OMG, the germans are coming bike": BMW R700 with sidecar and Afrikacorps markings.
Personal airplane: Beechcraft Baron
S2000
Beetle/MGB
911SC
Old Turbodiesel S-class
Volvo 240 Wagon, modified
944 S2
535is
Old PowerWagon
That Rubicon with the bed and all that good stuff, diesel-ized
'90s Range Rover, expedition kit, diesel
Loyale snow car
Probably some exotics
My own personal full-time mechanic.
?Accent!
Mom's Sportster 1200 next spring
srsly, dunno what else I should do
My ideal would look like this
2013 GT500
2013 Boss 302
2012 F150 Raptor
2012 C63 AMG
Somewhat less realistically:
Cadillac CTS-V coupe - for me
Audi A7 - for the imaginary Mrs.
Ford SVT Raptor - to tow a boat that I will inevitably have in this fantasy situation
a project car or two if I have room for them: restomodded 1970 Challenger convertible, 1977 Bandit Trans Am...something to park on the front lawn to annoy the snooty neighbors.
Or I could go a classier route and go with a Porsche 356 speedster + either a Rolls drophead Corniche or Merc 280SE cabrio. Depends on how much I want to annoy the neighbors.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 17, 2011, 06:44:54 PM
The " OMG, the germans are coming bike": BMW R700 with sidecar and Afrikacorps markings.
I know where you can find one of those, sans Afrikacorps markings. Otherwise identical to what you're describing.
Quote from: R-inge on November 17, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
I know where you can find one of those, sans Afrikacorps markings. Otherwise identical to what you're describing.
I've seen a few different ones for sale. Most are actually Dneprs (which was where the Russians took the tooling to build them after the war, so technically they were made on BMW equipment).
The difference between a Dnepr and a real BMW is about $20,000
It cracks me up that you un-married dudes are imagining cars for your imaginary wives. ;) You could at least imagine letting your imaginary wife choose her own imaginary car!
Yeah, maybe these are Dneprs then. 'Cause they aren't selling for anything lose to 20k.
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2011, 11:37:46 PM
It cracks me up that you un-married dudes are imagining cars for your imaginary wives. ;) You could at least imagine letting your imaginary wife choose her own imaginary car!
No. Imaginary Wife will drive what I tell her to, or find out why.
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2011, 11:37:46 PM
It cracks me up that you un-married dudes are imagining cars for your imaginary wives. ;) You could at least imagine letting your imaginary wife choose her own imaginary car!
If you want to call my wife imaginary, you'll have to do so to her face.
Quote from: R-inge on November 17, 2011, 11:37:52 PM
Yeah, maybe these are Dneprs then. 'Cause they aren't selling for anything lose to 20k.
About 9-10 then? That's about what I usually see them for in top condition.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 17, 2011, 11:42:10 PM
If you want to call my wife imaginary, you'll have to do so to her face.
I, uh, but she's... Not real? :confused:
:lol:
Quote from: Rupert on November 17, 2011, 11:37:46 PM
It cracks me up that you un-married dudes are imagining cars for your imaginary wives. ;) You could at least imagine letting your imaginary wife choose her own imaginary car!
LOL. Let's just say imaginary Mrs. wouldn't be the type to choose, say, a Prius over an Audi. I remember my ex liking the A7, so it could've been some kind of Freudian slip.
Well, it is your imagination...
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 17, 2011, 11:42:53 PM
About 9-10 then? That's about what I usually see them for in top condition.
Yeah, something in that area. The main thing about them is that they appear authentic. Still leaking oil and everything!
Quote from: R-inge on November 17, 2011, 11:47:22 PM
Yeah, something in that area. The main thing about them is that they appear authentic. Still leaking oil and everything!
Yep. That sounds just about right.
Ok, so I also need a beater truck.
Let's go with a '95-ish F-150 4x4.
I'm happy with the current Kia Sorento as a everyday/poor weather ride.
I'd just like to add:
BMW E39 M5 - functional fun car
Honda S2000 - summer car
Other than insurance, those two cars have depreciated enough that the average joe can own both I think.
Daily driver: TDI Sportwagen
Work truck/utility vehicle: Ram Power Wagon
Sport/track car: Lotus Elise (before they're gone)
Wife: Minivan of her choice, likely Toyota or Honda
My commuter car: WRX
Weekend in the woods: Ford Ranger 4door with diesel engine (as seen in Afghanistan)
Weekend highway car: Panamera
Currently
C6
Corolla
GSXR 750
I'd add a 2000-2004 Subaru Outback LL Bean edition (H6 has a timing chain instead of a belt) and a G8 GT to my stable since my Corolla will be goinb to my daughter by spring. And my work van can handle hauling duties since I sold my F150.
Hmm....I kept mine realistic to the next five years. And I definitely won't be married by then.
Are we talking about realistic or dream?
Dream? Something like Jay Leno's garage is a good starter.
Realistic?
My current list is ok, but i want to upgrade or swap out
Wife's Car: RDX ----> She wants a X3 so I'll go with that
Daily Driver: RSX-S ------> Either a Mini Cooper Countryman or a 335d, if there's an Wagon, even better
Fun Car: Elise (no change) maybe add a supercharger.
Quote from: NomisR on November 18, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
Are we talking about realistic or dream?
My initial query was:
Considering purchase cost and cost of ownership what would you consider to be your ideal personal vehicle fleet? So, yes, I'm looking for realistic.
Quote from: MiataJohn on November 18, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
My initial query was: Considering purchase cost and cost of ownership what would you consider to be your ideal personal vehicle fleet? So, yes, I'm looking for realistic.
Too bad, because everyone ruined the thread by listing all the exotic super cars they'll never buy.
Realistically I shouldn't have more than one vehicle. Assuming I was a little bit better off financially my ideal fleet would include:
- my current Mazda 3
- an old pickup truck
- an old sports car to restore or otherwise tinker with
- ... maybe a 1993 Jeep Cherokee...
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on November 18, 2011, 06:54:13 AM
Currently
C6
Corolla
GSXR 750
I'd add a 2000-2004 Subaru Outback LL Bean edition (H6 has a timing chain instead of a belt) and a G8 GT to my stable since my Corolla will be goinb to my daughter by spring. And my work van can handle hauling duties since I sold my F150.
My car went 140K+ miles on the timing belt, and the guy said it looked good for another 40-50K.
Being completely realistic -- if I wanted more than one car, I'd just keep the Caddy and get something fun after it's paid for. Anything from a convertible Mustang GT or Camaro SS, to a Mercedes SL or Porsche 997 convertible, and everything in between (BMW 335 vert, Boxster, Jag XK vert, 2011+ BMW 650...)
I didn't catch the realistic part. Darn.
So that narrows it down to one car:
Something very cheap, <10 years old, with more room than the MR2. The end.
2010 4runner
2006 Corvette Coupe
May eventually replace the corvette w/ something cooler (911?), but financially it's tough to justify. I still find the Vette a very fun car to drive, and it's only at about the 36k miles mark
If I could do it over I'd have a 1 yr old economy car and pick up a Factory Five Cobra replica.
Realistic? Shee-it, I'm already livin' the dream, then.
I'm calling mine realistically optimistic...
Mine is fairly realistic. Already have one, the other ones should be less than $20k each when completely finished.
I've got it pretty good right now,
09 Legacy sedan
01 Tacoma
but if I were going for perfection I'd upgrade to a turbo Legacy for a little more fun
Yeah, if this was fantasy world, it'd get all sorts of things, probably 3 or 4 cars...
Realistically, the miata for now. Considering a few things right now. First choice is the subaru brz sti. Also considering a second car to go with miata. Maybe a cx5 or optima or something. Third option is buy a house and get a kit car. Sell miata and get something more practical for the time being.
Maybe I could pick up a cheap Saturn L300 to lug me around when I need to give Accent a break.
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/2701065824.html
Realistic?? :(
Keep the minivan at least 4more years, (bought it 2009)
Keep the Subaru until it dies, but get a STICK SHIFT fun/practical car in spring 2013. Under $5k, so it would likely be older. My son will be 15 in 2014, so it would be his learner/first car.