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Title: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 20, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
The Z is a smallish car but I find it very difficult to park. The high shoulder sills keep me from seeing where the curb is. My dad's M45 had rear view mirrors that would aim down when you put it in reverse. Sad that a car would even need that, but a good feature nonetheless.

I'm also thinking about getting an Android based head unit. They have some that do screen mirroring.... basically letting you use your in dash screen as a remote desktop for your phone. Some of them do it wirelessly. Pretty damn cool and bizarre in that OEMs haven't jumped on board.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 20, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 20, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
The Z is a smallish car but I find it very difficult to park. The high shoulder sills keep me from seeing where the curb is. My dad's M45 had rear view mirrors that would aim down when you put it in reverse. Sad that a car would even need that, but a good feature nonetheless.

I had the same surprising issue in the Z4.  With the top up, anyway.  My old E class had the mirror thing.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: hotrodalex on May 20, 2014, 08:43:32 PM
Quote from: Raza  on May 20, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
I had the same surprising issue in the Z4.  With the top up, anyway.  My old E class had the mirror thing.

Interesting, E46's have moving mirrors. I loved it.

My nomination is power door locks and windows. Wish my car had those. Maybe fuel injection, cylinder shut off, and an overdrive gear too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 68_427 on May 20, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
Windshield wiper defrosters.

(http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=27819&d=1376016045)
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on May 20, 2014, 09:15:12 PM
ABS, DSC, Parking Sensors, Adjustable Dampers, Comfort Access, Auto-Hazards When Max Braking, Navigation
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Post by: Byteme on May 20, 2014, 09:16:08 PM
On our Mazda 6 push the unlock button on the remote twice and hold it down after the second push and it lowers the front windows.  Handy as hell on a hot day if you've parked in the sun.

The passenger mirror on the CLK swivels down when you put the car in reverse to help you not smack anything with the wheels on that side of the car. 

Also on the CLK if you have the top up and all four windows down you can close all 4 windows at the same time by holding the top switch to the "close top" position.

Cruise and radio controls on the steering wheel.

Used to be they put key locks on some consoles, not any more.  Sure would be useful to have that on convertibles.

Memory power seats, especially for both front seats.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: SJ_GTI on May 21, 2014, 09:16:58 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 20, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
The Z is a smallish car but I find it very difficult to park. The high shoulder sills keep me from seeing where the curb is. My dad's M45 had rear view mirrors that would aim down when you put it in reverse. Sad that a car would even need that, but a good feature nonetheless.

My car has that feature too, but I don't use it much.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: SVT666 on May 21, 2014, 09:38:58 AM
Paddle shifters for automatics.  My wife doesn't drive stick so this feature gives me added enjoyment out of an automatic equipped car I wouldn't normally have.  Went on two 4 hour mountain road runs this past weekend with the G37 and the paddles were immensely useful, and dare I say....fun.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 21, 2014, 10:00:34 AM
Quote from: SVT666 on May 21, 2014, 09:38:58 AM
Paddle shifters for automatics.  My wife doesn't drive stick so this feature gives me added enjoyment out of an automatic equipped car I wouldn't normally have.  Went on two 4 hour mountain road runs this past weekend with the G37 and the paddles were immensely useful, and dare I say....fun.

It's funny, I used to use manual shifting 100% of the time in my Mercedes and Passat, but since moving to a stickshift as my main mode of transportation, whenever I jump into an automatic car, I just plant my left foot and let it do whatever silly things it's going to do. 
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Laconian on May 21, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Backup cameras, though I'm not sure if they are just enabling the trend for less and less glass.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 21, 2014, 10:05:53 AM
Quote from: Laconian on May 21, 2014, 10:02:18 AM
Backup cameras, though I'm not sure if they are just enabling the trend for less and less glass.

I think they're a reaction to it.  Regs (or styling, whichever it was) pushed beltlines higher and higher, glass got smaller, people started backing into things, then came the backup cam. 
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: SJ_GTI on May 21, 2014, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: Raza  on May 21, 2014, 10:00:34 AM
It's funny, I used to use manual shifting 100% of the time in my Mercedes and Passat, but since moving to a stickshift as my main mode of transportation, whenever I jump into an automatic car, I just plant my left foot and let it do whatever silly things it's going to do.

I am, generally, the same way in automatic cars. The exception is the few times I have been able to get DSG equipped cars as loaners (usually an A3).

Although, when I had the Cadillac ATS as a rental while visiting Dallas, I did use the "manual" function quite a bit while in heavy traffic. The automatic didn't seem to adapt well to the constant acceleration variations so I used the manual option so it would stay in gear longer and not try to shift as much.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 21, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on May 21, 2014, 10:51:05 AM
I am, generally, the same way in automatic cars. The exception is the few times I have been able to get DSG equipped cars as loaners (usually an A3).

Although, when I had the Cadillac ATS as a rental while visiting Dallas, I did use the "manual" function quite a bit while in heavy traffic. The automatic didn't seem to adapt well to the constant acceleration variations so I used the manual option so it would stay in gear longer and not try to shift as much.

I do find that these hundred speed autos like to shift way too much.  I tried driving my dad's LS460 in manual and found that it would override you secretly (i.e. the dash would show you as being in 4th, but you'd really be in 7th or 8th) if you held a gear longer than it wanted you to. 
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Laconian on May 21, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
My autotragic lacks paddles, but S mode is pretty good about divining my wishes during spirited driving. A manual is definitely better for light throttle use because that just confounds the AT.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 21, 2014, 12:50:25 PM
Yea wifey's auto in S mode makes much better use of its measly 150 HP.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 2o6 on May 21, 2014, 01:07:17 PM
Useful - automatics with more than 4 speeds.


I'm driving the Altima, and it's the slowest thing ever
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: MrH on May 23, 2014, 07:15:07 AM
Auto up/down windows.  I have it for both windows in the BRZ.  In the Element, it's only the driver side.  It's a cheap thing to add but makes a difference to me.  I never roll around with the windows half up.

Other tech stuff I want on all my cars: HID & keyless entry.

I really like heads-up displays too.  I haven't owned a car with one, but every time I drive a car with it, it seems like such a cool, handy feature.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Byteme on May 23, 2014, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: MrH on May 23, 2014, 07:15:07 AM
Auto up/down windows.  I have it for both windows in the BRZ.  In the Element, it's only the driver side.  It's a cheap thing to add but makes a difference to me.  I never roll around with the windows half up.


I agree they are useful.  And why not put it on all 4 windows on a sedan?


A feature I have mixed emotions about is the trunk lock on the CLK.  When the car is unlocked the truck can be opened from the outside by pushing the button on the trunk.  the trunk is locked only when you lock the doors with the remote.   
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 23, 2014, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: MrH on May 23, 2014, 07:15:07 AM
Auto up/down windows.  I have it for both windows in the BRZ.  In the Element, it's only the driver side.  It's a cheap thing to add but makes a difference to me.  I never roll around with the windows half up.

Other tech stuff I want on all my cars: HID & keyless entry.

I really like heads-up displays too.  I haven't owned a car with one, but every time I drive a car with it, it seems like such a cool, handy feature.

It's actually a zero cost thing to add. It's just programming.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: cawimmer430 on May 23, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
 :devil:

(http://brooksreview.net/imgs/cupholder-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: SVT666 on May 23, 2014, 08:44:55 AM
BMW has the worst cupholders I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 23, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
Quote from: MrH on May 23, 2014, 07:15:07 AM
Auto up/down windows.  I have it for both windows in the BRZ.  In the Element, it's only the driver side.  It's a cheap thing to add but makes a difference to me.  I never roll around with the windows half up.

Other tech stuff I want on all my cars: HID & keyless entry.

I really like heads-up displays too.  I haven't owned a car with one, but every time I drive a car with it, it seems like such a cool, handy feature.

HUD is so cool and useful, I don't know how it hasn't caught on more.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 23, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: SVT666 on May 23, 2014, 08:44:55 AM
BMW has the worst cupholders I have ever seen.

The one in my Z4 is great.  Much better than the ones in my Porsche were.  They pop out of the dash and ratchet closed, so they can handle lots of different widths.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 2o6 on May 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
German cars in General have the worst cup holders.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: hotrodalex on May 23, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Most BMWs I've been in have them in the console. Dunno why they put them in the dash sometimes.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 23, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
Ventilated seats are another good one. Heavy as fuck though
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Laconian on May 23, 2014, 12:01:22 PM
Heavy?
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: MrH on May 23, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
The seating material itself for this isn't heavy.  It's a special nylon weave pattern that's patented.  Started in ventilated seats, then shrank down to become the backing material for a lot of interior components that are wrapped.  Really crazy material, but it's expensive.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: CALL_911 on May 23, 2014, 12:42:38 PM
For me, it'd have to be HIDs, heated seats, and Bluetooth integration. I take power locks and windows as a given in 2014.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 23, 2014, 12:44:00 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 23, 2014, 12:01:22 PM
Heavy?
I have had buddies who swapped Maxima seats out for heated/cooled seats from an M45. Maybe not a fair representation, but those fuckers were heavy as hell. Heating element + fans capable of pushing through perforated leather and cushioning.... tough stuff.
Title: Re: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Laconian on May 23, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 23, 2014, 12:44:00 PM
I have had buddies who swapped Maxima seats out for heated/cooled seats from an M45. Maybe not a fair representation, but those fuckers were heavy as hell. Heating element + fans capable of pushing through perforated leather and cushioning.... tough stuff.

I bet the N-way power adjustments add a lot of weight on their own.
Title: Re: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: 12,000 RPM on May 23, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: Laconian on May 23, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
I bet the N-way power adjustments add a lot of weight on their own.
Oh yea, that too. I think BMW is up to 60 way adjustments
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: ifcar on May 23, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: MrH on May 23, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
The seating material itself for this isn't heavy.  It's a special nylon weave pattern that's patented.  Started in ventilated seats, then shrank down to become the backing material for a lot of interior components that are wrapped.  Really crazy material, but it's expensive.

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 23, 2014, 12:44:00 PM
I have had buddies who swapped Maxima seats out for heated/cooled seats from an M45. Maybe not a fair representation, but those fuckers were heavy as hell. Heating element + fans capable of pushing through perforated leather and cushioning.... tough stuff.

I think y'all are talking about slightly different things -- perforated leather versus cooled seats. It sure would be nice if my current Mazda3 test car, with black leather, had either.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: cawimmer430 on May 24, 2014, 05:03:16 AM
Quote from: hotrodalex on May 23, 2014, 10:51:46 AM
Most BMWs I've been in have them in the console. Dunno why they put them in the dash sometimes.

On my 1-Series they're behind the transmission - two of 'em.  Well-made, solid cup holders that don't look so flimsy and breakable as they do in that 3er picture. Like here (not my car but same cupholder style and position).


(http://s30.postimg.org/b1s33m3u9/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: Raza on May 24, 2014, 05:05:40 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
German cars in General have the worst cup holders.

Both my VWs had awesome cup holders. My brother's Audi's are even better. It's just Mercedes that has crappy ones.

If you back a couple of generations, they were all pretty bad, but nowadays that's no longer the case.
Title: Re: Automotive features/innovations that are actually useful
Post by: cawimmer430 on May 24, 2014, 05:09:49 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on May 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
German cars in General have the worst cup holders.

Up until recently cup holders were an option in most German cars (and not available in some). Kind of difficult to keep your Weißbier stable in a cup holder while blasting down the Autobahn at 250 km/h.  :lol:

These days they appear to be standard on most German cars.
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Post by: Rupert on May 24, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
None in the 944. Kind of a PITA.
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Post by: hotrodalex on May 24, 2014, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 24, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
None in the 944. Kind of a PITA.

Annoying when I go get food to go and have to remember to not bother with a drink (unless it's a bottle) because there's nowhere to put one.

But good for keeping people from eating in my car.
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Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 24, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
I want remote locks. Such a hassle to unlock the front with a key to unlock the backdoor to get stuff out then relock them all from the front door...
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Post by: Madman on May 24, 2014, 10:46:37 PM

The cup holders in the front console of my Passat are pretty decent but the ones inside the back seat armrest are beyond useless.
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Post by: Soup DeVille on May 24, 2014, 11:21:21 PM
I have no cupholders. Too many lighters and ashtrays.

Its almost enough to wonder if we've just replaced one oral fixation with another.