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Auto Talk => General Automotive => Topic started by: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 11:28:37 AM

Title: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 11:28:37 AM
JLR's plants are shut down due to chip supply chain issues. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56841946

Thanks, 'rona!

Isn't Subaru similarly affected?
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: SJ_GTI on April 23, 2021, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 11:28:37 AM
JLR's plants are shut down due to chip supply chain issues. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56841946

Thanks, 'rona!

Isn't Subaru similarly affected?

I have been hearing about this across the industry for a while. I assume it is impacting everyone.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: r0tor on April 23, 2021, 12:18:39 PM
I think I heard Mustang and Grand Cherokee production is also stopped
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: r0tor on April 23, 2021, 12:21:25 PM
... probably cryptominers using ecu's for mining...
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: FoMoJo on April 23, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
Most manufacturers are experiencing a chip shortage causing slowdowns as well as shutdowns in some plants.

As I understand it, most chip manufacturers are in the far East, South Korea, China of course and especially Taiwan, though the US and Japan have facilities as well.  Very expensive to build a chip manufacturing plant.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 23, 2021, 12:21:25 PM
... probably cryptominers using ecu's for mining...

1 hash per hour
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 12:52:45 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 23, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
Most manufacturers are experiencing a chip shortage causing slowdowns as well as shutdowns in some plants.

As I understand it, most chip manufacturers are in the far East, South Korea, China of course and especially Taiwan, though the US and Japan have facilities as well.  Very expensive to build a chip manufacturing plant.

China taking over Taiwan (and TSMC) would be catastrophic for the Western world. TSMC is light years ahead of everybody else with their chip fabs.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: MX793 on April 23, 2021, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 23, 2021, 12:21:25 PM
... probably cryptominers using ecu's for mining...

I was under the impression that GPUs were the device of choice.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: Soup DeVille on April 23, 2021, 01:39:36 PM
Quote from: r0tor on April 23, 2021, 12:18:39 PM
I think I heard Mustang and Grand Cherokee production is also stopped

Grand Cherokee production is stopped for a number of reasons (but sunroofs are a big one)
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: CaminoRacer on April 23, 2021, 02:27:13 PM
Quote from: MX793 on April 23, 2021, 01:07:52 PM
I was under the impression that GPUs were the device of choice.

GPU for ethereum but not for bitcoin.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: FoMoJo on April 23, 2021, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 12:52:45 PM
China taking over Taiwan (and TSMC) would be catastrophic for the Western world. TSMC is light years ahead of everybody else with their chip fabs.
Likely one of the major reasons that China has been making overt threats against taking over Taiwan.  The West should be nervous.  They should also start building some more chip manufacturing plants.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 23, 2021, 02:41:06 PM
Likely one of the major reasons that China has been making overt threats against taking over Taiwan.  The West should be nervous.  They should also start building some more chip manufacturing plants.

TSMC is breaking ground on new fabs in the US. It's a good hedge.
Title: Re: Shutdowns due to chip shortages
Post by: FoMoJo on April 23, 2021, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 23, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
TSMC is breaking ground on new fabs in the US. It's a good hedge.
So is Intel in Arizona as well.  Smart moves.