http://www.fast-autos.net/hartge/hartgeh1.html (http://www.fast-autos.net/hartge/hartgeh1.html)
This thing goes 188. Can you say "dayum"?
0-60 has to be less than 4.5 seconds, but very impressive none-the-less.
Quote0-60 has to be less than 4.5 seconds, but very impressive none-the-less.
I was thinking the same thing, but 450hp in a tiny hatch and only 4.5 isnt that impressive.
QuoteQuote0-60 has to be less than 4.5 seconds, but very impressive none-the-less.
I was thinking the same thing, but 450hp in a tiny hatch and only 4.5 isnt that impressive.
The curb weight was 3200 lb. And, I think stuffing a big V8 in a little hatchback is impressive engineering. The numbers are probably just conservative.
QuoteQuoteQuote0-60 has to be less than 4.5 seconds, but very impressive none-the-less.
I was thinking the same thing, but 450hp in a tiny hatch and only 4.5 isnt that impressive.
The curb weight was 3200 lb. And, I think stuffing a big V8 in a little hatchback is impressive engineering. The numbers are probably just conservative.
I sure hope so. And I agree, stuffing a V8 is impressive.
QuoteQuoteQuote0-60 has to be less than 4.5 seconds, but very impressive none-the-less.
I was thinking the same thing, but 450hp in a tiny hatch and only 4.5 isnt that impressive.
The curb weight was 3200 lb. And, I think stuffing a big V8 in a little hatchback is impressive engineering. The numbers are probably just conservative.
3200 pounds? Well, this should get similar acceleration to the Corvette, but I imagine a little slower (probably worse traction off the line, a less slippery design). 4.5 seems like a good estimate, though I imagine a hair quicker or two is easily attainable.
This is probably as fast as that HPA R32 turbo...
QuoteThis is probably as fast as that HPA R32 turbo...
Not exactly. The HPA has about 100 more bhp and AWD.
"When a Volkswagen Golf can wipe the floor with a Ferrari Enzo, we take notice. Perhaps the phrase 'wipe the floor' is a little overzealous, but when Ferrari claims a 0-100km/h acceleration time of 3.3 seconds for its Enzo, and American VW/Audi tuning specialists HPA hit the same speed in 3.2 seconds in a Golf, we start to drool."
HPA VW R32 (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/)
Very cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
QuoteQuoteThis is probably as fast as that HPA R32 turbo...
Not exactly. The HPA has about 100 more bhp and AWD.
"When a Volkswagen Golf can wipe the floor with a Ferrari Enzo, we take notice. Perhaps the phrase 'wipe the floor' is a little overzealous, but when Ferrari claims a 0-100km/h acceleration time of 3.3 seconds for its Enzo, and American VW/Audi tuning specialists HPA hit the same speed in 3.2 seconds in a Golf, we start to drool."
HPA VW R32 (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/)
That is one incredibly awesome little car. It completely redefines the meaning hot hatch.
QuoteQuoteThis is probably as fast as that HPA R32 turbo...
Not exactly. The HPA has about 100 more bhp and AWD.
"When a Volkswagen Golf can wipe the floor with a Ferrari Enzo, we take notice. Perhaps the phrase 'wipe the floor' is a little overzealous, but when Ferrari claims a 0-100km/h acceleration time of 3.3 seconds for its Enzo, and American VW/Audi tuning specialists HPA hit the same speed in 3.2 seconds in a Golf, we start to drool."
HPA VW R32 (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/)
That's really cool.
QuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
QuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Check MTs site, and search for the Focus. They have an article on it versus a Lambo, so you'll probably find specs there.
QuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Or at least it is when you are talking over 250-300 hp (below that AWD can actually be a hindrance).
QuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Check MTs site, and search for the Focus. They have an article on it versus a Lambo, so you'll probably find specs there.
I tried that, but I couldn't find them.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Check MTs site, and search for the Focus. They have an article on it versus a Lambo, so you'll probably find specs there.
I tried that, but I couldn't find them.
Link (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0408_mismatched_wp/)
QuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Or at least it is when you are talking over 250-300 hp (below that AWD can actually be a hindrance).
I wouldn't say a hindrance. It depends on the power/weight ratio. A 5000 pound AWD car with 200bhp will be a lot slower than a 170bhp FWD car weighing only 3000 pounds.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Check MTs site, and search for the Focus. They have an article on it versus a Lambo, so you'll probably find specs there.
I tried that, but I couldn't find them.
Link (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0408_mismatched_wp/)
Are there any specs there? Just the prices, then the article ends.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Check MTs site, and search for the Focus. They have an article on it versus a Lambo, so you'll probably find specs there.
I tried that, but I couldn't find them.
Link (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0408_mismatched_wp/)
Are there any specs there? Just the prices, then the article ends.
Yeah, I will look some more.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Or at least it is when you are talking over 250-300 hp (below that AWD can actually be a hindrance).
I wouldn't say a hindrance. It depends on the power/weight ratio. A 5000 pound AWD car with 200bhp will be a lot slower than a 170bhp FWD car weighing only 3000 pounds.
It can be a hindrance, the A4 1.8t for example is slow in the 0-60 run because you need higher rpms to get boost but Quattro AWD prevents the wheels from spinning resulting in the car bogging down to a lower rpm when you drop the clutch.
Here is the full article (http://www.stangbangers.com/04_FordRacingFocusRS8vsLamborghiniGallardo_Article.htm) (0-60 in 4.4 seconds)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Or at least it is when you are talking over 250-300 hp (below that AWD can actually be a hindrance).
I wouldn't say a hindrance. It depends on the power/weight ratio. A 5000 pound AWD car with 200bhp will be a lot slower than a 170bhp FWD car weighing only 3000 pounds.
It can be a hindrance, the A4 1.8t for example is slow in the 0-60 run because you need higher rpms to get boost but Quattro AWD prevents the wheels from spinning resulting in the car bogging down to a lower rpm when you drop the clutch.
Here is the full article (http://www.stangbangers.com/04_FordRacingFocusRS8vsLamborghiniGallardo_Article.htm) (0-60 in 4.4 seconds)
Yup, but if the A4 weighed less, it wouldn't be a hindrance, really.
4.4 seconds isn't bad, but a Caterham could kill it for far less.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteVery cool...is it faster than that V-8 Focus?! :o
I can't find specs for the RS8, but I imagine it is faster than it. The R32 has AWD and 130bhp more, whereas the RWD-only RS8 has 420bhp. Traction is everything to 60.
Or at least it is when you are talking over 250-300 hp (below that AWD can actually be a hindrance).
I wouldn't say a hindrance. It depends on the power/weight ratio. A 5000 pound AWD car with 200bhp will be a lot slower than a 170bhp FWD car weighing only 3000 pounds.
It can be a hindrance, the A4 1.8t for example is slow in the 0-60 run because you need higher rpms to get boost but Quattro AWD prevents the wheels from spinning resulting in the car bogging down to a lower rpm when you drop the clutch.
Here is the full article (http://www.stangbangers.com/04_FordRacingFocusRS8vsLamborghiniGallardo_Article.htm) (0-60 in 4.4 seconds)
Yup, but if the A4 weighed less, it wouldn't be a hindrance, really.
4.4 seconds isn't bad, but a Caterham could kill it for far less.
Definitely, the RS8 is really pointless since it isn't a practical daily driver and there are numerous cars that will keep up with it in the straightline and kill it on the autocross parking lot.
QuoteQuoteThis is probably as fast as that HPA R32 turbo...
Not exactly. The HPA has about 100 more bhp and AWD.
"When a Volkswagen Golf can wipe the floor with a Ferrari Enzo, we take notice. Perhaps the phrase 'wipe the floor' is a little overzealous, but when Ferrari claims a 0-100km/h acceleration time of 3.3 seconds for its Enzo, and American VW/Audi tuning specialists HPA hit the same speed in 3.2 seconds in a Golf, we start to drool."
HPA VW R32 (http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/hpar32/)
NVM then. I thought (wrong) that it was close.
I imagine that V8 1-Series would feel a little too nose-heavy, though...
QuoteI imagine that V8 1-Series would feel a little too nose-heavy, though...
It probably would, and it sort of defeats the purpose of the BMW if it makes it lose its 50/50 weight distribution.
Let's not forget that the BMW 3.0 litre I6 is the size of an LS1.
QuoteI imagine that V8 1-Series would feel a little too nose-heavy, though...
It probably wouldn't be too bad.
QuoteI imagine that V8 1-Series would feel a little too nose-heavy, though...
I imagine you're a little nose heavy, douche!
Anyway, it's a hatch. They've got FWD Saab hatches (and sedans) with better weight distribution than RWD coupes, such as the G35 or GTO.
QuoteLet's not forget that the BMW 3.0 litre I6 is the size of an LS1.
And the LS1 is not what's being put into the 1-Series, it's a HUGE BMW V8.
I think I'd rather have a supercharged 130i.
QuoteI think I'd rather have a supercharged 130i.
I'd rather have an M3 GTR, but the world isn't so great, eh?