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Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: LostBoy on June 24, 2005, 01:53:15 PM
Courtesy of ToV...but, because of copyright laws, I cannot link the photos directly...And, on top on that, Temple of Vtec makes you register to see the picts...

But if you've got a dummy email, 30 secs worth of patience, and mild interest, check it out!


Temple of Vtec - Future Civic Spy Shots (http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=364303)


What the verdict, CSers?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 24, 2005, 01:56:39 PM
ahhh, not today
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: ifcar on June 24, 2005, 02:05:59 PM
MPLexus from C/D took those pics, BTW.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 24, 2005, 02:08:06 PM
QuoteMPLexus from C/D took those pics, BTW.
well he won't have a problem with us posting them. And, I suspect ToV is more concerned about bandwidth than copyright protection.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: ifcar on June 24, 2005, 02:11:23 PM
Not a bad looking car, a bit too rounded but attractive overall.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 24, 2005, 02:11:33 PM
Those are great pics.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: ifcar on June 24, 2005, 02:12:25 PM
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QuoteMPLexus from C/D took those pics, BTW.
well he won't have a problem with us posting them. And, I suspect ToV is more concerned about bandwidth than copyright protection.
If they said not to post them, don't post them. Just register and view them, or wait until tomorrow (MP said that they'd be up for general viewing by then).
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 24, 2005, 02:28:35 PM
copyright
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: SargeMonkey on June 25, 2005, 02:35:06 AM
You know whats rather sad? My 79 civic gets better milage, and the older minis get better then the newer, thats just sh*t.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: ifcar on June 25, 2005, 05:25:35 AM
Not really, when you consider that your Civic seats only two people (unless the rear seat occupants had their legs amputated and probably goes from 0-60 in 20 seconds.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: Tom on June 25, 2005, 07:15:01 AM
QuoteYou know whats rather sad? My 79 civic gets better milage, and the older minis get better then the newer, thats just sh*t.
So is it up and running now?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: Fire It Up on June 25, 2005, 07:26:33 AM
The coupe looks butt ugly. The sedan....uhm, well I cant really say yet.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: Speed_Racer on June 25, 2005, 09:49:44 PM
3 times the 3hreed.

3 times the 3radrenaline.  :D  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: LostBoy on June 29, 2005, 10:23:33 PM
More picts of the upcoming Civic...this time, a little more revealing.

Car Connection - Civic Spy Shots (uncovered) (http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_06_Honda_Civics.S178.A8842.html)

Enjoy!  :)  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: footoflead on June 29, 2005, 10:26:21 PM
QuoteNot really, when you consider that your Civic seats only two people (unless the rear seat occupants had their legs amputated and probably goes from 0-60 in 20 seconds.
it will probally do 0-60 in 20 with a tail wind and a down hill slope.... :D  :D  :lol:

Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: MrH on June 29, 2005, 10:41:34 PM
QuoteMore picts of the upcoming Civic...this time, a little more revealing.

Car Connection - Civic Spy Shots (uncovered) (http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_06_Honda_Civics.S178.A8842.html)

Enjoy!  :)
Looks like the front of a TL met with a Prius for the sedan, and an Ion quad coupe for the coupe version.  Coupe isn't too shabby looking.  The sedan is another story.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: 93JC on June 29, 2005, 11:36:58 PM
Looks like a pair of Saturn Ions...

<_<  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 05:44:45 AM
The coupe looks ok, but I am worried that the sedan will be humpty dumpty on wheels.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: mazda6er on June 30, 2005, 08:00:29 AM
The shot of the front looks like a Saturn Ion.  :(  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 08:18:56 AM
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9976/civ9fs.jpg)

My crude image cleanup.

The coupe looks nice, the sedan is an improvement, but still not quite as stylish as the last generation Jetta or the current Mazda 3.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 30, 2005, 08:27:54 AM
Ohhh Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!  This reminds me of something.....Feeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt!
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 08:55:10 AM
That sedan looks utterly bloated and disgusting....it cannot even compete with any other sedan in its class styling wise, IMO.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 09:02:53 AM
QuoteThat sedan looks utterly bloated and disgusting....it cannot even compete with any other sedan in its class styling wise, IMO.
The high beltline is becoming more and more common.  Guess you better start getting used to the look?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 09:04:30 AM
Quote
QuoteThat sedan looks utterly bloated and disgusting....it cannot even compete with any other sedan in its class styling wise, IMO.
The high beltline is becoming more and more common.  Guess you better start getting used to the look?
I have nothing wrong with a high beltline...it looks very good on some cars.  This Civic looks horribele...Ion from the front, Corolla from side.  Honda can do better than this.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 09:32:27 AM
I guess they were trying to make the front look a bit like the TL's, instead they made it look like the Ion's which isn't a good thing at all. The rest of it is no worse than the Corolla or Jetta, but not as good as the Spectra, Focus, Cobalt, or 3.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 09:33:32 AM
QuoteI guess they were trying to make the front look a bit like the TL's, instead they made it look like the Ion's which isn't a good thing at all. The rest of it is no worse than the Corolla or Jetta, but not as good as the Spectra, Focus, Cobalt, or 3.
Both the Corolla and Jetta look more synchronized and fluid, IMO.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 09:34:58 AM
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QuoteI guess they were trying to make the front look a bit like the TL's, instead they made it look like the Ion's which isn't a good thing at all. The rest of it is no worse than the Corolla or Jetta, but not as good as the Spectra, Focus, Cobalt, or 3.
Both the Corolla and Jetta look more synchronized and fluid, IMO.
Both look like blobs of formless metal imho, just like this Civic does.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 09:36:00 AM
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QuoteI guess they were trying to make the front look a bit like the TL's, instead they made it look like the Ion's which isn't a good thing at all. The rest of it is no worse than the Corolla or Jetta, but not as good as the Spectra, Focus, Cobalt, or 3.
Both the Corolla and Jetta look more synchronized and fluid, IMO.
Both look like blobs of formless metal imho, just like this Civic does.
Design is subjective :)
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 09:36:46 AM
This might be one of those cars you just have to see in person before making a final judgement.

Some cars, like the latest Subaru Legacy, looked incredible in pictures, yet dull in person.  Others look so-so in pictures, and pretty good in person.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 30, 2005, 09:46:21 AM
I'm not sure but I think anyway I look at this turd it will still be a turd.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 10:00:55 AM
QuoteThis might be one of those cars you just have to see in person before making a final judgement.

Some cars, like the latest Subaru Legacy, looked incredible in pictures, yet dull in person.  Others look so-so in pictures, and pretty good in person.
I don't know what you are talking about, the current Legacy looks great in pics and in person as did the prevous gen.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 10:05:38 AM
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QuoteThis might be one of those cars you just have to see in person before making a final judgement.

Some cars, like the latest Subaru Legacy, looked incredible in pictures, yet dull in person.  Others look so-so in pictures, and pretty good in person.
I don't know what you are talking about, the current Legacy looks great in pics and in person as did the prevous gen.
I agree.  But design is subjective I guess.  I think the current legacy is the best looking mainstream sedan at the moment.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 30, 2005, 10:18:41 AM
Well if you say so Dave.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: shayslay on June 30, 2005, 11:08:06 AM
I think it's a nice clean design that looks more upscale than before. I believe that the red coupe in the TCC pictures is an Si with the tailpipe and supposed badge on the grille. The Ion headlights have me nonplussed but I'm still looking forward to its release. It seems that it will also be available with leather to match Mazda and Toyota. And is that a nav screen?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 30, 2005, 11:16:22 AM
We'll have a 30k dollar civic now, woooo hoooo.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 11:29:26 AM
QuoteI think it's a nice clean design that looks more upscale than before. I believe that the red coupe in the TCC pictures is an Si with the tailpipe and supposed badge on the grille. The Ion headlights have me nonplussed but I'm still looking forward to its release. It seems that it will also be available with leather to match Mazda and Toyota. And is that a nav screen?
Where do you see a nav screen?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: R33 GT-R on June 30, 2005, 11:33:45 AM
I'm missing this navi too.
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Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 11:33:54 AM
Looked at this picture again, the hood is way too short.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: shayslay on June 30, 2005, 11:36:42 AM
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QuoteI think it's a nice clean design that looks more upscale than before. I believe that the red coupe in the TCC pictures is an Si with the tailpipe and supposed badge on the grille. The Ion headlights have me nonplussed but I'm still looking forward to its release. It seems that it will also be available with leather to match Mazda and Toyota. And is that a nav screen?
Where do you see a nav screen?
They have pics up at The Car Connection, and in one of the coupe shots there's some sort of information screen in the interior that may or not house a navigation screen.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 11:38:14 AM
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QuoteI think it's a nice clean design that looks more upscale than before. I believe that the red coupe in the TCC pictures is an Si with the tailpipe and supposed badge on the grille. The Ion headlights have me nonplussed but I'm still looking forward to its release. It seems that it will also be available with leather to match Mazda and Toyota. And is that a nav screen?
Where do you see a nav screen?
They have pics up at The Car Connection, and in one of the coupe shots there's some sort of information screen in the interior that may or not house a navigation screen.
Oh, I see what you mean.  Yes, from the buttons on the side that looks to be a navigation screen.

(For other people who want to know, expand the picture of the coupe, and you'll see it.)
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: shayslay on June 30, 2005, 11:39:13 AM
I'd post a picture but I'm not sure if they allow hotlinking.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 11:41:31 AM
QuoteI'd post a picture but I'm not sure if they allow hotlinking.
Dont worry about that...anyone can go to the link.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 01:39:47 PM
(http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/1302.jpg)

This must be the hybrid version
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 01:52:32 PM
I hope the move the wheels out some for the production model.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on June 30, 2005, 01:55:54 PM
QuoteI hope the move the wheels out some for the production model.
Its probably all the camoe that it appears that way.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 01:57:11 PM
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QuoteI hope the move the wheels out some for the production model.
Its probably all the camoe that it appears that way.
I don't see any camo except the white tape on the taillights in that last pic.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: shayslay on June 30, 2005, 01:58:29 PM
Quote(http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/1302.jpg)

This must be the hybrid version
What tips you off that it's the hybrid?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 02:00:52 PM
Unique rear antenna, little rear lip spoiler and a unique wheel design that hasn't been seen before.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 02:03:12 PM
QuoteUnique rear antenna, little rear lip spoiler and a unique wheel design that hasn't been seen before.
The rear antenna is likely for satelite radio, the wheels might be optional plus designs probably aren't finalized yet, and the spoiler might be an option.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: mazda6er on June 30, 2005, 02:05:45 PM
Those mirrors look a bit freakish don't they? They're larger than the ones on the truck in front of it!
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 02:08:50 PM
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QuoteUnique rear antenna, little rear lip spoiler and a unique wheel design that hasn't been seen before.
The rear antenna is likely for satelite radio, the wheels might be optional plus designs probably aren't finalized yet, and the spoiler might be an option.
I don't think so.  Sat radio antenna looks like this:

(http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/1300.jpg)

The current Civic hybrid has that same funky antenna in the front:
(http://i.tnpv.us/2004/WKA200409/WKA2004090538581_pv.jpg)

and the little rear lip spoiler:
(http://i.tnpv.us/2004/WKA200409/WKA2004090538237_pv.jpg)
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Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 02:10:26 PM
I don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 02:20:59 PM
QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 02:22:52 PM
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QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
No one would notice a different antenna except through careful examination.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on June 30, 2005, 02:23:36 PM
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QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
No one would notice a different antenna except through careful examination.
Who will notice?  The car geeks like us   B)
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on June 30, 2005, 02:26:00 PM
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QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
No one would notice a different antenna except through careful examination.
Who will notice?  The car geeks like us   B)
No, the car geeks like you ;), I never pay that much attention to Civics.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: shayslay on June 30, 2005, 10:00:43 PM
With the antennas looking that similar I will place my bet that that white model is a Hybrid. But I'm still holding out hope that theyd offer the Coupe in Hybrid too.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TurboDan on July 01, 2005, 01:15:13 AM
Damn.  There was a rumor going around that we were going to get those shots as an exclusive.  Apparently it didn't pan out.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: BMWDave on July 01, 2005, 05:51:54 AM
QuoteDamn.  There was a rumor going around that we were going to get those shots as an exclusive.  Apparently it didn't pan out.
Who took those pictures?  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: crv16 on July 01, 2005, 05:55:32 AM
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QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
It just occurred to me that the reason they have an external antenna for the hybrid is because of the high voltage battery pack sitting behind the rear seat.  That must cause interference with the in glass antenna.
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: TBR on July 01, 2005, 02:25:27 PM
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QuoteI don't think the lip spoiler is anything, but I agree that the atenna is odd, is there a particularly reason the Civic Hybrid would have an antenna like that and regular model wouldn't?
Dunno.  The current non-hybrid Civic has an in-glass antenna.  I think they feel the need to distinguish the hybrid version with some unique visual features.
It just occurred to me that the reason they have an external antenna for the hybrid is because of the high voltage battery pack sitting behind the rear seat.  That must cause interference with the in glass antenna.
That makes sense, I guess it must be the Hybrid model then.  
Title: Latest Civic Spy Shots
Post by: ifcar on July 01, 2005, 05:29:37 PM
Looks like I'm in the minority when I say I like the design. I like that they went with thin headlights, and I like the car's general shape. I don't like the coupe's prevoius-M45-inspired taillights, but it's otherwise a nice design.