New Crossover for the house

Started by MrH, January 14, 2019, 11:21:16 AM

Submariner

Looks like the only CR-V available with the 2.4 is the base, and you can't seem to option up beyond accessories like mats, cargo nets, etc.

I'm not sure I'd trust the 1.5t at this point until a real fix is available and has proven to be effective.  I'd probably go for the CX5, unless you don't care much for the options offered on higher trims.
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MrH

CX-5 is the front runner.

Rav4, CR-V, and Forester are getting a test drive at least.
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Payman

We already settled it. You're buying a CX-5.

MrH

Quote from: Rockraven on January 15, 2019, 01:20:53 PM
We already settled it. You're buying a CX-5.

Probably.  Gotta support the little guy!

If I include the wife's car, here are my ownership totals:

- 2 Mazda
- 2 Toyota
- 3 Honda
- 2 Hyundai
- 1 Subaru

Mazda will likely take the lead soon :mask:
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CALL_911



2004 S2000
2016 340xi

MrH

It's not even out yet.  And that 9-speed...wooooof
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CALL_911



2004 S2000
2016 340xi

MrH

Quote from: CALL_911 on January 15, 2019, 01:46:01 PM
Would you go for a turbo CX5?

Probably not.  It's an extra $1800 and likely more reliability issues down the road.  Not worth it.  If it was for me daily driving, I would probably do it.
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FoMoJo

Quote from: MrH on January 15, 2019, 01:24:14 PM
It's not even out yet.  And that 9-speed...wooooof
The ZF 9 gets a bad rap imo; likely down to FCA's bad software.  The one in my 2017 Discovery Sport is excellent.  Paired with a small litre (2.0) turbo four, it works like a charm.  Good performance and excellent mileage; unless you have a lead foot.

A good description...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7EMGnjEhmE
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CALL_911

Quote from: MrH on January 15, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
Probably not.  It's an extra $1800 and likely more reliability issues down the road.  Not worth it.  If it was for me daily driving, I would probably do it.

Lame, you should do it


2004 S2000
2016 340xi

MrH

Quote from: FoMoJo on January 15, 2019, 01:54:16 PM
The ZF 9 gets a bad rap imo; likely down to FCA's bad software.  The one in my 2017 Discovery Sport is excellent.  Paired with a small litre (2.0) turbo four, it works like a charm.  Good performance and excellent mileage; unless you have a lead foot.

A good description...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7EMGnjEhmE

That video...did not sell me on the 9 speed :lol:
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BimmerM3

Quote from: MrH on January 15, 2019, 01:19:51 PM
CX-5 is the front runner.

Rav4, CR-V, and Forester are getting a test drive at least.

:ohyeah:

If I were looking at CUVs for on-road use, I'd have the exact same list.

FoMoJo

Quote from: MrH on January 15, 2019, 02:19:11 PM
That video...did not sell me on the 9 speed :lol:
That was an older video, but offered a good description of the ratios.  If you're interested in good performance and excellent mileage, don't discount it when paired with a small displacement turbo engine.  On my Discovery, it cruises at 110 kph (68 mph) at 1750 rpm which is just before the boost kicks in.  My best mileage is 6.6 litre for 100 kilometers (35 mpg).  How well it would perform on the Honda Passport with the 3.5 NA engine would be down to how well the software has been sorted. 
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

Laconian

I dunno, it sounds like a sweet deal for Autobahners. You get massive gear spread at the cost of a couple lurchy shifts, not a big deal..

TBH having two transmissions (CVT+AT) stacked against one another sounds like more of a nightmare..
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FoMoJo

Quote from: Laconian on January 15, 2019, 02:57:54 PM
I dunno, it sounds like a sweet deal for Autobahners. You get massive gear spread at the cost of a couple lurchy shifts, not a big deal..

TBH having two transmissions (CVT+AT) stacked against one another sounds like more of a nightmare..
Never felt a lurch in mine.  I blame FCA for all the complaints.  You just can't slap stuff together and hope it works.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

MrH

There are a ton of complaints about it in the Pilot too.  Most people recommend getting the EX-L trim just so you get the 6-speed instead.
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12,000 RPM

Ugh I'm having deja vu. Single buddy of mine asked me for car advice... "I'm thinking about getting a CX-5, what do you think"

(goes through a bunch of more fun, cheaper options for like 45 minutes)

"Alright man cool"

He shows up a few weeks later in a new CX-5 :hammerhead: Not a bad car at all but just kind of pointless for a single non active dude.
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FoMoJo

A lot of people have already made up their mind.  They just want approval.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 15, 2019, 06:36:38 PM
Ugh I'm having deja vu. Single buddy of mine asked me for car advice... "I'm thinking about getting a CX-5, what do you think"

(goes through a bunch of more fun, cheaper options for like 45 minutes)

"Alright man cool"

He shows up a few weeks later in a new CX-5 :hammerhead: Not a bad car at all but just kind of pointless for a single non active dude.

Pointless like carrying around an empty suitcase? Or pointless like you could've had a V8?
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68_427

Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


BimmerM3

Quote from: FoMoJo on January 15, 2019, 06:42:47 PM
A lot of people have already made up their mind.  They just want approval.

Or he spent 45 minutes talking about cars he would want, rather than what his buddy would want.

I don't see how a CX-5 is pointless at all. Reliable transportation with a great (for it's class) interior, seats five, can hold a decent amount of stuff, looks great, drives well, isn't overly large, all at an affordable price point.

FoMoJo

Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 15, 2019, 07:19:51 PM
Or he spent 45 minutes talking about cars he would want, rather than what his buddy would want.

I don't see how a CX-5 is pointless at all. Reliable transportation with a great (for it's class) interior, seats five, can hold a decent amount of stuff, looks great, drives well, isn't overly large, all at an affordable price point.
A CX-5 always reminds me of the one girl in class who always wore a bit too much make-up, a bit too bright lipstick and tried a bit too hard to be liked.  I know that it's sacrilege, but that's the way I feel about most Mazdas :lol:.
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."


Laconian

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MrH

Quote from: 68_427 on January 15, 2019, 07:16:29 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoej8hauBw

No joke, the Straight Pipes guys are making the best car review content out there.  They're really good.

I like the XC40 a lot.  But $42k for a loaded R-design, they're pretty much selling for MSRP, and it's really really tiny.  Might test drive just to see though.

2019 Acura RDX with a few thousand miles is in the running now too.
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2019 Acura RDX SH-AWD
2023 BRZ Limited

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Eye of the Tiger

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68_427

Quote from: MrH on January 16, 2019, 07:22:04 AM
No joke, the Straight Pipes guys are making the best car review content out there.  They're really good.

I like the XC40 a lot.  But $42k for a loaded R-design, they're pretty much selling for MSRP, and it's really really tiny.  Might test drive just to see though.

2019 Acura RDX with a few thousand miles is in the running now too.

T4 Momentum with heated seats and steering wheel, and the upgraded stereo and nav is like $36k.  Doesn't seem bad to me.  Does she really need the r design?
Quotewhere were you when automotive dream died
i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


CALL_911

Oh shit, RDX is a good option.  SH AWD is awesome and the new interiors are very very nice


2004 S2000
2016 340xi

r0tor

If a xc or rdx is in the running, might as well test drive a Stelvio
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12,000 RPM

Check out the Levante and Urus too.
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