I'm back on a Honda.

Started by Cookie Monster, January 31, 2017, 06:24:25 PM

Cookie Monster

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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
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Bro :wtf:

What happened to the.... I thought you were gonna.... but then what will you do with the........................................................................

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 31, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
Bro :wtf:

What happened to the.... I thought you were gonna.... but then what will you do with the........................................................................other bunch of bikes that he bought?


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Cookie Monster

Well, I had some time today before I had to go into work (they were working on giving me a new computer upgrade so I couldn't do any work). Saw this clean '02 954 for sale at a used bike dealership. I rode in with the FZ1, asked for a straight trade and rode off with the 954.

Now I just dropped $380 for new tires and frame sliders.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Raza

Think about this.  You've bought more bikes in the last two years than I have watches. 

That's a cool bike, though.  I like it.
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68_427

Quote from: Cookie Monster on January 31, 2017, 08:40:55 PM
Well, I had some time today before I had to go into work (they were working on giving me a new computer upgrade so I couldn't do any work). Saw this clean '02 954 for sale at a used bike dealership. I rode in with the FZ1, asked for a straight trade and rode off with the 954.

Now I just dropped $380 for new tires and frame sliders.


Do they both really have equal value?
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SVT_Power

Would a shop really trade you straight up if they were equal value?
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

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MrH

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Will be interesting to see what they sell the FZ1 for :popcorn:
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MX793

What year was the FZ?  I know it was gen2, but they built those for like 10 years.
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SVT_Power

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 01, 2017, 06:42:54 AM
Will be interesting to see what they sell the FZ1 for :popcorn:

They have it up for CBR954RR price + $500  :lol:
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

Eye of the Tiger

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Cookie Monster

MrH. doesn't have shit on my trading antics. :lol:

Quote from: MX793 on February 01, 2017, 07:00:24 AM
What year was the FZ?  I know it was gen2, but they built those for like 10 years.

It was an '06 - first year of the second gen.

Honestly, the FZ was alright. It was smooth, riding position was decent, and it was stupid quick. I just never really warmed up to it. Was a month enough time to really assess if I liked it? Probably not, but I just was never that excited to get on it and go anywhere. Plus, I didn't like the looks and the way it handled was spooky. I probably should have gotten it adjusted or something but from reading reviews online, '06 was the worst for suspension tuning and for throttle smoothness. The throttle was snatchy as hell and the gearbox was pretty clunky, and rather than dump $$$ to fix the suspension and ECU on a bike I wasn't that warmed up about I decided to hold off on any modifications. The used bike dealership posted this pretty clean looking 954RR and on a whim yesterday I decided to go check it out. I've wanted a 954 for the past 2 years almost so I had to go see it at least.

I think I paid $135 in tax and fees to get the 954. Got the paperwork done and rode it out. The registration is expired but the dealer is taking care of that so that itself saves me ~$70.

Granted, there are some problems with the 954 - it's on Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa tires, and the rear one is 10 years old. The turn signals don't really like to work, especially in the cold. Pushing the switch takes it about 20 seconds to a minute to respond. I think cleaning the switch out and replacing the grease they put in there should help. The clutch engages at the very very end of the lever travel, so I'm assuming the clutch is pretty much dead. I'm too scared to go WOT on these tires to see if it slips, though. The exhaust is not stock and has been modified to fit the bike. Luckily a stock used header and midpipe is $120 shipped off of ebay.

I definitely lost money on the trade, especially since the FZ didn't need work and this does, but at least I have a giant smile every time I get to ride the 954. Every time I rode the FZ I'd just keep thinking "man, this isn't even an R1".
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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SVT_Power

I'll take a moment to rationalize Rag's decision before I rejoin the bandwagon ridiculing him:

Even if he lost some money trading the FZ for the Honduh, might as well as have a toy you're gonna enjoy if it's already an irrational decision. And really he probably only lost $1k on the trade, not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things if it really does make him happier.

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You traded in a good condition motorcycle you ride pretty much every single day to commute to work for a sport bike that needs work (also, inb4 Rag complains about the riding position and spends more $$$ on a comfier handlebar like he did on the F4i)   :nutty:
"On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit. And you then go for this limit and you touch this limit, and you think, 'Okay, this is the limit'. And so you touch this limit, something happens and you suddenly can go a little bit further. With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high." - Ayrton Senna

MrH

Yeah, I guess I just don't understand the cyclic nature of it.  I know better than anyone what it's like trading in to find the Goldilocks "just right" you're looking for.  But you've come full circle a few times over now :lol:
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: SVT_Power on February 01, 2017, 12:31:50 PM
I'll take a moment to rationalize Rag's decision before I rejoin the bandwagon ridiculing him:

Even if he lost some money trading the FZ for the Honduh, might as well as have a toy you're gonna enjoy if it's already an irrational decision. And really he probably only lost $1k on the trade, not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things if it really does make him happier.

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You traded in a good condition motorcycle you ride pretty much every single day to commute to work for a sport bike that needs work (also, inb4 Rag complains about the riding position and spends more $$$ on a comfier handlebar like he did on the F4i)   :nutty:

I agree on both counts. :lol:

I won't be doing the handlebar conversion on this (didn't really like it as much as I was hoping) and FWIW the F4i is still running around SF with the handlebar conversion.

Quote from: MrH on February 01, 2017, 12:33:55 PM
Yeah, I guess I just don't understand the cyclic nature of it.  I know better than anyone what it's like trading in to find the Goldilocks "just right" you're looking for.  But you've come full circle a few times over now :lol:

How so? Like you I'm in pursuit of that perfect ride. It just so happens with cars I know what I like - lightweight, RWD, manual transmission sports cars, and beyond that basic formula I can customize the car to my liking. With bikes there are so many different ones out there that are still fun in their own way that I'm going through them all. I started on a standard, moved to a sport bike, then to a sport touring that was more touring than sport, then to a supermoto, then another sport touring that was more sport than touring. I guess I've finally come full circle back to the sport bike but this time it's something I've wanted to own for a couple years.

Honestly I feel like I did when I first got the RX7 - super happy but still in disbelief I finally own it. I also still think that if I didn't get hit on the FJ-09 I'd still have that, just based on how much I enjoyed riding that bike.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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MrH

I thought it went:  Sport bike -> touring -> super moto -> touring -> sport bike

and in the middle, you bought another copy of your original sport bike, a separate dirt bike, and an rx-7. :lol:
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MX793

If you thought the FJ was more touring than sport, you need to get some more exposure to the segment.
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shp4man

So what's next, a Gold Wing?  :lol:

Cookie Monster

Quote from: MrH on February 01, 2017, 12:49:10 PM
I thought it went:  Sport bike -> touring -> super moto -> touring -> sport bike

and in the middle, you bought another copy of your original sport bike, a separate dirt bike, and an rx-7. :lol:

Yeah 2016 and 2017 so far have been nuts in terms of vehicle purchases. :lol:

Quote from: MX793 on February 01, 2017, 12:51:04 PM
If you thought the FJ was more touring than sport, you need to get some more exposure to the segment.

I mean, the FJ-09 is still pretty sporty, but it's got a bolt upright seating position. Something like your Ninja 1000 seems a lot sportier. What else in the "sport touring" category is less sporty than the FJ? Maybe a Multistrada?

I wouldn't consider bikes like the FJR to be a sport tourer but I could be wrong.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Cookie Monster

I should be charging you guys for all the entertainment you get out of watching this shitshow of a rollercoaster ride. :lol:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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MX793

Bikes like the FJR and Concourse are the definition of sport touring bikes.  They are actually the pinnacle of the segment.  My N1K would be considered a middleweight or entry ST.  Some would class it as a sport bike/ST crossover, like the Interceptor.  Either way, it's not a proper ST.  FJR, ST1300, Connie 1400, Bimmer R-GT, Triumph Trophy...  Those are real sport touring bikes.
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Cookie Monster

Quote from: MX793 on February 01, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
Bikes like the FJR and Concourse are the definition of sport touring bikes.  They are actually the pinnacle of the segment.  My N1K would be considered a middleweight or entry ST.  Some would class it as a sport bike/ST crossover, like the Interceptor.  Either way, it's not a proper ST.  FJR, ST1300, Connie 1400, Bimmer R-GT, Triumph Trophy...  Those are real sport touring bikes.

Well, I thought those were all just old man couch bikes. I guess my definition of "sport touring" is wrong. :lol:

I always though of sporty bikes with handlebars (FZ1, VFR, Ninja 1k, GSXS1000F, etc) or these newer "adventure" bikes that can't actually go off road (FJ-09, S1000XR, Multistrada) as sport tourers.

So what's a full on touring bike, then, other than a Goldwing?
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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MX793

Gold Wing, any of the full dressed cruisers, BMW K1600 would be touring bikes.
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