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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Submariner on July 21, 2005, 03:02:19 PM
2006 BMW M3 Spy Photos
by Przemek Lis, Contributing Editor
Photo credits: Hussein Al-attar
edited 02-28-2005

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Update - 07/21/2005



Seen here driving on the German N?rburgring is the first prototype of BMW's much anticipated M3.  These photos confirm our original report (see story below) of a 4 door M3 being brought back into the model range since the E36 platform.  We also reported the M3 would receive a V8 engine.  If you look closely at the hood you'll notice the entire center has been sectioned out and replaced with a specially fabricated cover.  It cannot be determined from these photos if the cover is steel or another material, however, it is clear that the purpose of this modification is to compensate for a larger engine.  Other indicators of this prototype's intentions can be seen in the massive cross-drilled front and rear brake rotors as well as dual split exhaust pipes carefully hidden under the rear bumper fascia.  Unfortunately this prototype is not having a full dress rehearsal since M3 styled front and rear fascias are absent as standard 3 Series bumpers take their place.



Original Story from 02/28/2005



In 2006 BMW will kick it up a notch in the sports coupe market with the much anticipated next generation E90 M3.  Both Coupe and Cabriolet models are planned with a new addition of a 4 door sedan not seen since the E36 platform.



The initial idea considered was a 4 door M3 saloon and a 2 door M4 coupe. But recently BMW has changed their minds and keep the legendary M3 coupe alive. Internal pressure from the BMW board was too great to kill it off.  Therefore, the M3 coupe, M3 saloon and an M3 cabriolet in addition to an M4 2 door coupe/cabriolet will be developed.  Did you get all that?



(Edit: The M4 will be a coupe/cabriolet = 2 door coupe with folding hardtop)



The M3 coupe will feature a 6 Series like glasshouse with the possibility of a new distinct interior.  The front will sport a new aggressive yet subtle bumper while the rear will display quad exhausts like the new M5.  Power will come from a new lightweight V8 producing around 400hp and uses the latest dual-VANOS variable valve timing system.  New engine building technology and lightweight materials mean the engine should amazingly weigh the same as the outgoing 3.2 liter in-line 6 cylinder from the current E46 M3 but with considerably more power.



During early testing of the cabriolet version of the 3 series BMW experimented with both a normal canvas roof and a hard folding top but decided on the canvas due to weight savings and maintenance.



The new M3 is slated to arrive in early 2006 with a 2005 Frankfurt debut and the cabriolet will have a Geneva 2006 debut with sales beginning in summer 2006.  The SMG transmission will come standard and a CSL version of the coupe with excess of 420hp is being planned as well.



The M4 will also feature theV8 engine mentioned above in the M3 and should go on sale later.  No further details are known.  A concept for the regular 4 Series is slated for Frankfurt in September.



Editor's note:

Originally published as: "During early testing of the cabriolet version of the 4 series..."   Edited 03/24/05 to read "During early testing of the cabriolet version of the 3 series..."

Link to Pics (http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050228.001)

(http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050228.001/pageview/photo/photo/1/page/1/lang/eng/bmw/1.html)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:03:55 PM
Wait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raghavan on July 21, 2005, 03:19:18 PM
QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:22:09 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 03:28:25 PM
That is by no means a finished mule from the looks of it...the front should be enhanced a lot more.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:30:46 PM
QuoteThat is by no means a finished mule from the looks of it...the front should be enhanced a lot more.
Oh you're right...I hadn't noticed that before.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raghavan on July 21, 2005, 03:33:52 PM
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the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:41:17 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 03:42:19 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...? :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:44:33 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 03:48:06 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...? :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:51:26 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
So it is very fast regardless of the amount of doors.  But a 4-door M3 won't be nearly as exciting as its 2-door counterpart, which is why I think they should just keep the M3 as a two-door.  But of course I know nothing about BMW, so don't mind my ranting!  ;)  :ph34r:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 04:25:34 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...? :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
So it is very fast regardless of the amount of doors.  But a 4-door M3 won't be nearly as exciting as its 2-door counterpart, which is why I think they should just keep the M3 as a two-door.  But of course I know nothing about BMW, so don't mind my ranting!  ;)  :ph34r:
Have some self confidence :lol:

Seriously though, the M3 is a much smaller car than the M5, and 400 hp should be more than sufficient...there was a 4 door M3 before, and its a hoot to drive...it just has more practicality.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 04:37:04 PM
Okay, if I have this right the M4 will be smaller than M3 with a fold hard top, right? Glad to see that the M3 sedan will be back, about time someone gives Audi a run for its money!  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 04:40:52 PM
I spied one myself today, convertible as well.

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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 04:52:33 PM
^^Buy it :lol:
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:06:02 PM
Quote^^Buy it :lol:
It only has 17k miles on it but it's too small for what I'm looking for.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:06:47 PM
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It only has 17k miles on it but it's too small for what I'm looking for.
I hear they sold the 7er?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
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It only has 17k miles on it but it's too small for what I'm looking for.
I hear they sold the 7er?
That guy nailed it to the T, he said to get back with him within 2 hours.  I was like he's full of crap, it'll be there a few days.  Then I go back to the site and it has sold next to it.  Pissed, that was the best deal anyhere on that number of miles and super clean.   :angry:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:21:45 PM
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It only has 17k miles on it but it's too small for what I'm looking for.
I hear they sold the 7er?
That guy nailed it to the T, he said to get back with him within 2 hours.  I was like he's full of crap, it'll be there a few days.  Then I go back to the site and it has sold next to it.  Pissed, that was the best deal anyhere on that number of miles and super clean.   :angry:
Next time you see a deal like that, snatch it up fast :)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:25:11 PM
This is more my size but they will be a problem when the new one hits.  This one is fine though and it's only got 26k miles on it, not bad for an 03 model.

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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:27:46 PM
How much does that M3 cost?  Its beautiful  :wub:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:32:09 PM
QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?  Its beautiful  :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:33:55 PM
Dave here is a link to their inventory, take a look at the cars.  They have the best pics of what they have for sale out of any other site I've searched.  Tons of pics all over the cars.

Select Luxury (http://64.40.100.110/Inventory.php)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:34:10 PM
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QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?  Its beautiful  :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
That M5 is really, really, nice!  I would check it out B)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:41:31 PM
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QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?? Its beautiful? :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
That M5 is really, really, nice!  I would check it out B)
I've always loved the M5 but with the new body style out now it scares me to think of even heavier depreciation.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:42:36 PM
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QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?? Its beautiful? :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
That M5 is really, really, nice!  I would check it out B)
I've always loved the M5 but with the new body style out now it scares me to think of even heavier depreciation.
Its still a very, very solid car B)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:53:29 PM
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QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?? Its beautiful? :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
That M5 is really, really, nice!  I would check it out B)
I've always loved the M5 but with the new body style out now it scares me to think of even heavier depreciation.
Its still a very, very solid car B)
That's a good positive, it's tried and true.  You know it's going to be comfrotable and perform when needed.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:54:01 PM
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QuoteHow much does that M3 cost?? Its beautiful? :wub:
They are asking 41,200 for the 3 so you cold get it around 39.  The 5 is going for 56,900 so it could be had around 55k.
That M5 is really, really, nice!  I would check it out B)
I've always loved the M5 but with the new body style out now it scares me to think of even heavier depreciation.
Its still a very, very solid car B)
That's a good positive, it's tried and true.  You know it's going to be comfrotable and perform when needed.
I would check it out :lol:
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 05:56:24 PM
I'm not sure about the red inserts either.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 05:56:49 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...  :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
So it is very fast regardless of the amount of doors.  But a 4-door M3 won't be nearly as exciting as its 2-door counterpart, which is why I think they should just keep the M3 as a two-door.  But of course I know nothing about BMW, so don't mind my ranting!  ;)  :ph34r:
Have some self confidence :lol:

Seriously though, the M3 is a much smaller car than the M5, and 400 hp should be more than sufficient...there was a 4 door M3 before, and its a hoot to drive...it just has more practicality.
It's natural for me to lack self-confidence when arguing with someone who knows everything about something that I know next to nothing about...human nature.  ;)  :lol:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 05:58:09 PM
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QuoteWait...I thought the M3 was a coupe...? :blink:
the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
So it is very fast regardless of the amount of doors.  But a 4-door M3 won't be nearly as exciting as its 2-door counterpart, which is why I think they should just keep the M3 as a two-door.  But of course I know nothing about BMW, so don't mind my ranting!  ;)  :ph34r:
Have some self confidence :lol:

Seriously though, the M3 is a much smaller car than the M5, and 400 hp should be more than sufficient...there was a 4 door M3 before, and its a hoot to drive...it just has more practicality.
It's natural for me to lack self-confidence when arguing with someone who knows everything about something that I know next to nothing about...human nature.  ;)  :lol:
We need more self confidence :rockon:  :lol:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 06:00:10 PM
We need more beer.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 06:02:49 PM
QuoteWe need more beer.
:lol: That too.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 06:04:50 PM
Do you like the red inserts Dave, I like the blue better.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 06:05:42 PM
QuoteDo you like the red inserts Dave, I like the blue better.
I also like blue better, but I still think it looks great!
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 06:09:08 PM
The blue and Black combo is super sweet.  The red is a bit flashy but doable.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 06:11:28 PM
QuoteThe blue and Black combo is super sweet.  The red is a bit flashy but doable.
I would check into that car...it will be a lot more nimble than a 7er, and do you really need all the room?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 06:22:20 PM
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the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
The E36 had an M3 sedan (and was available as an automatic as well), which looked much better than the coupe.  Not making an E46 M3 sedan was a mistake.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 06:22:49 PM
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the current E46 is, but the new one will also be a sedan.
Hmph...I'm not sure I like that.  <_<
the coupe and convertible versions will still be available youknow.
Well yeah I know, but how exciting is a 4-door M3?  Not very, IMO...sort of takes away the image of the M badge...4 doors?  That's like GM putting 4 doors on the Charger...doesn't really make sense.
umm...M5??
Yeah but the M5 has V-10 power, no?
So?
So it is very fast regardless of the amount of doors.  But a 4-door M3 won't be nearly as exciting as its 2-door counterpart, which is why I think they should just keep the M3 as a two-door.  But of course I know nothing about BMW, so don't mind my ranting!  ;)  :ph34r:
Have some self confidence :lol:

Seriously though, the M3 is a much smaller car than the M5, and 400 hp should be more than sufficient...there was a 4 door M3 before, and its a hoot to drive...it just has more practicality.
It's natural for me to lack self-confidence when arguing with someone who knows everything about something that I know next to nothing about...human nature.  ;)  :lol:
You weren't arguing with me.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 06:50:23 PM
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QuoteThe blue and Black combo is super sweet.  The red is a bit flashy but doable.
I would check into that car...it will be a lot more nimble than a 7er, and do you really need all the room?
I do have 3 kids you know, but they are small right now.  Wonder if they would fit in back of that 3.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 07:01:11 PM
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I would check into that car...it will be a lot more nimble than a 7er, and do you really need all the room?
I do have 3 kids you know, but they are small right now.  Wonder if they would fit in back of that 3.
I'm sure they would fit in the back of the 5.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 07:04:20 PM
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I would check into that car...it will be a lot more nimble than a 7er, and do you really need all the room?
I do have 3 kids you know, but they are small right now.  Wonder if they would fit in back of that 3.
I'm sure they would fit in the back of the 5.
:lol:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: sportyaccordy on July 21, 2005, 08:09:59 PM
I like the 4 door M3 more than the coupe. I hope they come out w/the sedan first...
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on July 21, 2005, 08:10:54 PM
Check out the Audi RS6 as well, that is a great car and has tons of room for the kids.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:29:02 PM
I suggested that last night but he said it was too small, which doesn't make since if he is considering a M3, maybe he just doesn't like it.

And, Bryan, as far as the M5 goes, don't worry about depreciation, resale values will stay solid because there are a lot of people that don't like the look of the new 5-series.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:35:40 PM
They do have this A8 L Quattro, don't know the price though.

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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:36:21 PM
TBR gave me the idea ^^^^^^,
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:36:51 PM
I don't know about you, but I personally find the A8 to look much better than the A8 L, for the same reason I think the 745i looks better than the 745 li and the XJ8 better than the XJ8 L.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:37:05 PM
QuoteI suggested that last night but he said it was too small, which doesn't make since if he is considering a M3, maybe he just doesn't like it.

And, Bryan, as far as the M5 goes, don't worry about depreciation, resale values will stay solid because there are a lot of people that don't like the look of the new 5-series.
I was joking about the M3 TBR, I would go for the RS6 before it for sure.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:38:05 PM
QuoteI don't know about you, but I personally find the A8 to look much better than the A8 L, for the same reason I think the 745i looks better than the 745 li and the XJ8 better than the XJ8 L.
They just put up a A8 let me see if the pics are out yet.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:38:23 PM
I see, never can be sure about you.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 08:38:52 PM
Get it!  It has a manumatic! wOOt!!  :lol:  :lol:  :rockon:  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:43:23 PM
A8 with no price yet either, 2005.

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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:45:20 PM
Much better, I would suggest visiting an Audi deal asap and then making an offer on that A8 if everything goes well.


I guess Select Luxury deals in end of lease cars or something?  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 08:46:53 PM
If you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.  B)  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:50:09 PM
QuoteMuch better, I would suggest visiting an Audi deal asap and then making an offer on that A8 if everything goes well.


I guess Select Luxury deals in end of lease cars or something?
The salesman I spoke with today said they buy 120 cars a month and sale 120 cars a month.  He said if you see something you like to jump on it because odds are it isn't going to be around long.  He said they ship worldwide and he had just put a Ferrari Challenge like the yellow one on the floor on a boat to Iceland.  Who in the hell is going to be driving a Ferrari in Iceland?  Does anyone here have any experience with the A8?  It looks clean and nice but I'm not sold on it yet, I'm off to autotrader to price them a bit.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:53:43 PM
QuoteIf you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.  B)
I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:53:56 PM
TBR he said they buy cars that the dealer doesn't want on their lot, like almost new ones that will pull new sales away.  He said his manager has some kind of device he goes over all panels with that detect paint depth and they will not touch anything that shows any signs of an accident, scratches or dings.  They sold that Azure today as well, damn somebodys making some money there.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:55:29 PM
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QuoteIf you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.  B)
I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.
How come it's so high, it does look funny.  Compare it to the A8L and it looks real high.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:56:52 PM
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QuoteIf you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.  B)
I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.
How come it's so high, it does look funny.  Compare it to the A8L and it looks real high.
Actually, I bet the air suspension is adjusted too high for some reason, that must be it.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 08:57:58 PM
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QuoteIf you do get the A8, lower it about an inch so it looks more professional...it looks a little too high for my tastes in stock form.? B)
I was thinking the same thing. As far as the A8 goes, it handles almost as well as the BMW, but its ride is a bit more rough (should be fine considering what you're driving now). Like the 745i, the A8 had a few teething problems, but 2004 models should be fine. I personally find the A8 to be quite attractive and you should be able to get a better deal on one than you can get on a 745i.
How come it's so high, it does look funny.  Compare it to the A8L and it looks real high.
Actually, I bet the air suspension is adjusted too high for some reason, that must be it.
I didn't know if it had the air ride or not, your probably right.  I'm over at autotrader.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 08:59:12 PM
I believe they all do, I think it is standard equipment.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 09:05:14 PM
The A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:11:33 PM
QuoteThe A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.
I don't like the rear of the 04 after looking at it, I like the rear of the 05 but it's too much.  Still perplexed, any ideas chime in and maybe I can be more confused.  I still think I would really enjoy the 745i but after missing that deal today I may hold off for a bit.   :(  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 09:20:16 PM
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QuoteThe A8 is not as capable as the 745i.  The A8 is actually the car most like the W140 on the market today.
I don't like the rear of the 04 after looking at it, I like the rear of the 05 but it's too much.  Still perplexed, any ideas chime in and maybe I can be more confused.  I still think I would really enjoy the 745i but after missing that deal today I may hold off for a bit.   :(
Sounds to me like your options are  a S500 (which is being replaced soon) or a midsize sports sedan such as a M5 or RS6.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 09:26:20 PM
You'd be better off buying a W220 or 221 than waiting for the new model.  I do like the S class...ours has been perfect.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: mazda6er on July 21, 2005, 09:49:59 PM
Ever consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:51:22 PM
QuoteYou'd be better off buying a W220 or 221 than waiting for the new model.  I do like the S class...ours has been perfect.
One thing Raza, I don't buy brand new cars anymore.  The depreciation is such a waste after you pass the 40k mark.  The only reason I bought my Ram 3500 new was for the over 6000 lb tax credit.  That's the main reason I like the 745 as much as I do, it's not dated looking yet for 04 models and even 03.  This gives you huge savings and a vehicle with anywhere from 12-30k miles.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 09:52:53 PM
QuoteEver consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.
The XJ is too "old manish" for him, but it does have worse depreciation than pretty much everything else in this class.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:54:18 PM
Check out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=5792A)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:55:19 PM
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QuoteEver consider an XJ, R-33? Not sure how quickly they depreciate, but since you're looking at new A8s, I assume that's a viable option.
The XJ is too "old manish" for him, but it does have worse depreciation than pretty much everything else in this class.
TBR is right, it's the old timers ride.  Plus you have to buy one 5 years old to get a decent deal.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 09:56:07 PM
Where did you come up with that? They depreciate like crazy!
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: mazda6er on July 21, 2005, 09:56:56 PM
QuoteCheck out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=5792A)
That looks sweet. How can these cars be so cheap?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 09:57:08 PM
QuoteCheck out this Raza, an 02 S55 AMG. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=5792A)
If you drive it and like it, it is a good car, but some people have complained about the quality of the pre-'03 models. However, it looks gorgeous in those pics.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:04:50 PM
The only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.

(http://64.40.100.110/5792A/39.jpg)

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Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: mazda6er on July 21, 2005, 10:06:26 PM
QuoteThe only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.
I agree. Simple enough to have fixed/fix yourself though.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:12:26 PM
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QuoteThe only thing I can't stand about this car, look at the headlamps on it.

Then look at the xenon clear and how much better the nose looks.
I agree. Simple enough to have fixed/fix yourself though.
Your right and it looks like it was well taken care of, I wonder if the 03 headlamps will fit in it?  I know my xenons on my 230 are 750 each to replace so these must be over 1000 each.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 10:14:12 PM
Seems like they did a surprisingly extensive redesign of the nose for '03 (surprisingly because it doesn't look that different), so they may not.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:17:38 PM
QuoteSeems like they did a surprisingly extensive redesign of the nose for '03 (surprisingly because it doesn't look that different), so they may not.
Well I would think they would have offered them in 02, let's take a gander and see.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 10:25:17 PM
I don't believe the S-class was available with clear lense headlights until 2003 when they became standard.  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:32:43 PM
QuoteI don't believe the S-class was available with clear lense headlights until 2003 when they became standard.
Every 2002 has those shitty ones and it says that they are zenon but hazed lensed.  I just found on autotrader a 2002 S55AMG with 15,789 miles for 57,800.  Somebody didn't drive that at all hardly, that's a scary car to buy because it's been sitting around too much.  That's only around 4k miles a year, spooky.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 05:40:22 AM
If you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 08:26:59 AM
QuoteIf you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)
The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 08:29:34 AM
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QuoteIf you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.  Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)
The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.
Get the M5!  :lol:
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 08:43:31 AM
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QuoteIf you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.? Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)
The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.
Get the M5!  :lol:
I'm seriously considering it but I really like the newer 745.  I'm going to let is saute a bit.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 08:44:59 AM
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QuoteIf you get the Audi, you must get it in natural brown leather with dark brown wood.? Every interior with natural brown seems to be amazing B)
The Audi is out, the rear of the 04s just doesn't do it for me.  The 05 has a nice tail feather but it's out of the price range.
Get the M5!  :lol:
I'm seriously considering it but I really like the newer 745.  I'm going to let is saute a bit.
I'll look for deals :)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 08:56:26 AM
Very cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 09:03:09 AM
Heres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: Raghavan on July 22, 2005, 11:11:58 AM
QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
i thought you said that 03's were bad because of glitches and electrical problems....
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:13:45 AM
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QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
i thought you said that 03's were bad because of glitches and electrical problems....
They were, but I couldnt really find anything else that fit his price tag...so I just posted it, since he might be interested in it.  The other one I posted was an 04 though.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:23:08 AM
QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Here are some more deals:

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17129447/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-18642626/2004/bmw/745/panama-city/fl/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17327908/2004/bmw/745/downers-grove/il/do-basic)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:24:51 AM
QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Nice, I'm looking through.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:25:31 AM
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QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Nice, I'm looking through.
Damn, it was sold already.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:26:20 AM
QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
This ones a no go, it's a year older than the other one with a few more miles and 3k more.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:27:14 AM
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QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
This ones a no go, it's a year older than the other one with a few more miles and 3k more.
Have you considered an 05 545i?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:30:33 AM
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QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Here are some more deals:

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17129447/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-18642626/2004/bmw/745/panama-city/fl/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17327908/2004/bmw/745/downers-grove/il/do-basic)
I like this last one but I didn't see voice activation, soft close doors and something else was missing.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:31:23 AM
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QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Here are some more deals:

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17129447/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-18642626/2004/bmw/745/panama-city/fl/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17327908/2004/bmw/745/downers-grove/il/do-basic)
I like this last one but I didn't see voice activation, soft close doors and something else was missing.
I believe soft close pneumatic doors are standard...
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:31:58 AM
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QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
This ones a no go, it's a year older than the other one with a few more miles and 3k more.
Have you considered an 05 545i?
not really, aren't they the same size as the M5?


Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 11:33:41 AM
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Quote
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QuoteHeres another deal (http://www.automart.com/vehicledetail/adid-18371337/2003/bmw/745i/hurst/tx)
This ones a no go, it's a year older than the other one with a few more miles and 3k more.
Have you considered an 05 545i?
not really, aren't they the same size as the M5?
They are bigger on the inside, and about the same size on the outside.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:34:16 AM
Here's one at select luxury.

Boo Ya! (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=6222)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 11:35:44 AM
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Here are some more deals:

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17129447/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-18642626/2004/bmw/745/panama-city/fl/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17327908/2004/bmw/745/downers-grove/il/do-basic)
I like this last one but I didn't see voice activation, soft close doors and something else was missing.
I believe soft close pneumatic doors are standard...
I wasn't sure because it's about half and half on which ones list it and not.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 12:05:02 PM
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteVery cool car!

Link (http://www.automotive.com/2004/65/bmw/7-series/745i/north-carolina/denver/9876012/2/)
Here are some more deals:

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17129447/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-18642626/2004/bmw/745/panama-city/fl/do-basic)

Link (http://autoextra.com/vehicledetail/adid-17327908/2004/bmw/745/downers-grove/il/do-basic)
I like this last one but I didn't see voice activation, soft close doors and something else was missing.
I believe soft close pneumatic doors are standard...
I wasn't sure because it's about half and half on which ones list it and not.
I have a 100 page brochure on the 2004 7er now.  Turns out they are standard on the 760, but optional on all other models.  

I have the whole manual here, so if you are unsure of anything, just ask :)

(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/4862/carpicsfromjuly22nd20050018ai.jpg)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 12:12:02 PM
Sweet.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 03:08:13 PM
Check this out (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184435329&dealer_id=46806957&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=1085#vdptop)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 03:10:47 PM
This car has my favorite color leather...and has the Sport Package. (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184460319&dealer_id=613065&car_year=2005&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=2427#vdptop)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 03:11:23 PM
6 Speed Manual 5er (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183124042&dealer_id=613455&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=618#vdptop)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 22, 2005, 03:13:17 PM
Heres an automatic one if you want. (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186057350&dealer_id=7567423&car_year=2005&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=1025#vdptop)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 04:40:02 PM
QuoteCheck this out (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184435329&dealer_id=46806957&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=1085#vdptop)
this one is nice but the mileage is too low to get a bigger discount.  It's pretty hot though.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 04:42:07 PM
QuoteThis car has my favorite color leather...and has the Sport Package. (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=184460319&dealer_id=613065&car_year=2005&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=2427#vdptop)
I like this one alot, very nice indeed.  I wonder if they'll play ball at 55k.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 05:03:18 PM
Quote6 Speed Manual 5er (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183124042&dealer_id=613455&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=en&max_price=&model=545I&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=07961&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1981&isp=y&cardist=618#vdptop)
<_<  
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 22, 2005, 05:03:45 PM
still mulling it over Dave.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 23, 2005, 08:04:29 PM
Are you open to getting a 5er, or do you only want a 7er?
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 23, 2005, 09:35:06 PM
QuoteAre you open to getting a 5er, or do you only want a 7er?
Well if I'm open to the 5er then I'll look harder at the 03 M5, I really like the 7er though.  I think it's a really sexy car, maybe I'm crazy but it looks really nice to me.  I know I would love the M5 performance but sacrifice luxury and many of the overkill options that make the 7er such a deal.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 23, 2005, 09:38:33 PM
Quote
QuoteAre you open to getting a 5er, or do you only want a 7er?
Well if I'm open to the 5er then I'll look harder at the 03 M5, I really like the 7er though.  I think it's a really sexy car, maybe I'm crazy but it looks really nice to me.  I know I would love the M5 performance but sacrifice luxury and many of the overkill options that make the 7er such a deal.
All right, I will look for more 7er deals :)
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 23, 2005, 10:13:21 PM
Ok, we are looking for an 04 with around 13k on it with all options for 56k.
Title: Sighted: BMW M3!
Post by: BMWDave on July 23, 2005, 10:45:57 PM
QuoteOk, we are looking for an 04 with around 13k on it with all options for 56k.
Sure thing B)