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Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 04, 2005, 02:23:27 PM
And they place in that order. Total order of all small sporty cars tested by CR:

1. WRX STi
2. RX-8
3. Lancer Evo
4. WRX (pre-2006)
5. Cobalt SS S/C
6. Mini Cooper base
7. RSX base
8. tC
9. Tiburon V6
10. Eclipse GS 2.4

(All Recommended but the Evo and Cobalt, for which CR has no reliability data, and the Eclipse, for which there is no reliability data and too low of a Rating.)

Details of cars tested for this month:

Cobalt SS S/C 5-speed manual: $24,135
Acceleration: 5/5 (7.3 seconds to 60)
Transmission: 4/5
Fuel Economy: 3/5 (23 mpg)
Routine Handling: 4/5
Emergency Handling: 4/5
Braking: 5/5 (132 feet from 60)
Ride: 3/5
Noise: 3/5
Driving Position: 3/5
Front Seat: 4/5
Rear Seat: 2/5
Access: 3/5
Controls and Displays: 4/5
Fit and Finish: 4/5
Trunk: 3/5

RSX Base 5-speed manual: $20,940
Acceleration: 4/5 (9.1 seconds to 60)
Transmission: 5/5
Fuel Economy: 4/5 (28 mpg)
Routine Handling: 4/5
Emergency Handling: 4/5
Braking: 4/5 (143 feet from 60)
Ride: 2/5
Noise: 3/5
Driving Position: 4/5
Front Seat: 4/5
Rear Seat: 1/5
Access: 3/5
Controls and Displays: 5/5
Fit and Finish: 4/5
Trunk: 2/5

tC 5-speed manual: $17,365
Acceleration: 4/5 (8.8 seconds to 60)
Transmission: 4/5
Fuel Economy: 4/5 (26 mpg)
Routine Handling: 4/5
Emergency Handling: 3/5
Braking: 4/5 (136 feet from 60)
Ride: 3/5
Noise: 3/5
Driving Position: 3/5
Front Seat: 4/5
Rear Seat: 2/5
Access: 3/5
Controls and Displays: 5/5
Fit and Finish: 4/5
Trunk: 2/5

Eclipse 2.4 5-speed manual: $17,365
Acceleration: 4/5 (9.3 seconds to 60)
Transmission: 3/5
Fuel Economy: 3/5 (23 mpg)
Routine Handling: 4/5
Emergency Handling: 3/5
Braking: 4/5 (139 feet from 60)
Ride: 2/5
Noise: 3/5
Driving Position: 2/5
Front Seat: 3/5
Rear Seat: 1/5
Access: 2/5
Controls and Displays: 4/5
Fit and Finish: 4/5
Trunk: 1/5


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Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SJ_GTI on November 04, 2005, 03:20:27 PM
Its funny to me that C&D preferred the RSX, but CR preferred the Cobalt SS.  :o

Is this the Non-Supercharged version BTW? The Cobalt SS has two version now.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 04, 2005, 03:34:06 PM
It's the s/c version, I'll specify that.  
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SaltyDog on November 04, 2005, 03:57:43 PM
They liked the Cobalts front seat, something you really criticized it for.  Although maybe the SS has upgraded seats.  

I'm surprised the tC, Mini, and RSX didn't score higher.  They're usually mag favorites.

Where's the SRT4?  Come on.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 04, 2005, 04:02:10 PM
The high-end SS has terrific seats IMO, though CR says that they lose support over a few hours, something I haven't judged. They didn't like the standard car's seats much more than I did though.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: TBR on November 04, 2005, 04:25:32 PM
I pretty much agree with the order (that's a first) ;) :lol:
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SJ_GTI on November 04, 2005, 06:25:23 PM
The LT, SS, and SS SC all have above average seats.

I think the regular Cobalt seats are fine as well, but nothing special.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SaltyDog on November 04, 2005, 06:29:12 PM
QuoteThe LT, SS, and SS SC all have above average seats.

I think the regular Cobalt seats are fine as well, but nothing special.
I agree.  I was just remembering Ifcars economy comparo where the Cobalt really got hit for what he called bad seats.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 04, 2005, 07:29:51 PM
The non-SS models all have the same seats, the non-S/C SS might as well.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SJ_GTI on November 04, 2005, 07:37:56 PM
QuoteThe non-SS models all have the same seats, the non-S/C SS might as well.
That's not true.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 05, 2005, 05:09:19 AM
Yes, it is. LS and LT seats are entirely identical, and the LTZ (and possibly the standard SS models) are the same, just with leather.  
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: SJ_GTI on November 05, 2005, 07:10:02 AM
QuoteYes, it is. LS and LT seats are entirely identical, and the LTZ (and possibly the standard SS models) are the same, just with leather.
Nope.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: Raza on November 05, 2005, 10:46:39 AM
Wow, Cobalt SS over an RSX?  I thought CR was in love with that car.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: MrH on November 05, 2005, 10:55:24 AM
GUys, keep in mind C&D tested an RSX type S against the Cobalt and CR just tested a base RSX.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 05, 2005, 11:24:19 AM
CR didn't love their 02 RSX-S test car either.  
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: Raza on November 05, 2005, 11:27:21 AM
QuoteCR didn't love their 02 RSX-S test car either.
That didn't stop them from giving it a Recommended status in the Fall 2005 magazine.

Yes, I broke down and bought one.  Damn grocery store aisle magazines.
Title: Consumer Reports reviews small sporty coupes
Post by: ifcar on November 05, 2005, 11:29:36 AM
If a car has average or better reliability, it generally gets Recommended as a decent, if not great choice. Very few cars rate poorly enough that they wouldn't get recommended even with good reliability.

They didn't rank it anywhere near the top of its class though.