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Auto Talk => The Mainstream Room => Topic started by: Payman on January 11, 2014, 10:29:43 AM

Title: Elio!
Post by: Payman on January 11, 2014, 10:29:43 AM
At first I dismissed this vehicle as another industry flop, but apparently it's on sale for MY 2015, priced at $6800. They already have over 6000 orders in the books! If this comes to Canada, I might buy one for commuting to work.

(http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2013/04/full-912-56832-904835_525396610858549_114168277_o.jpg)

http://www.eliomotors.com (http://www.eliomotors.com)
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: FoMoJo on January 11, 2014, 02:41:04 PM
Impressive.  FWD.

Engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkZS1YWPpIE)
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on January 12, 2014, 06:22:35 AM
No way can they sell it at that price though. I bet it'll be more like $15,000 by the time production begins and all the costs are realized. I think the lowball msrp was dreamed up to lure investors and customer deposits.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on January 12, 2014, 06:22:35 AM
No way can they sell it at that price though. I bet it'll be more like $15,000 by the time production begins and all the costs are realized. I think the lowball msrp was dreamed up to lure investors and customer deposits.

I was going to say that it probably achieved that by not needing to meet a real car's safety standards, but apparently they claim it does. So yeah, the price seems entirely unrealistic.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on January 12, 2014, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
I was going to say that it probably achieved that by not needing to meet a real car's safety standards, but apparently they claim it does. So yeah, the price seems entirely unrealistic.

They haven't met any standards yet, just computer models. Real world testing will be expensive, and it doesn't appear they have factored it in. The more I look into this company, the more amateurish it appears.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 07:33:43 AM
I was going to say that it probably achieved that by not needing to meet a real car's safety standards, but apparently they claim it does. So yeah, the price seems entirely unrealistic.

Three wheelers in the US are motorcycles, and don't have to meet safety standards.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Also, they go on and on about mileage but fail to say exactly what drivetrain they're using.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on January 12, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Also, they go on and on about mileage but fail to say exactly what drivetrain they're using.

Some of the prototype models they have out right now are using old Geo 3 cylinders in them. 
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on January 12, 2014, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
Also, they go on and on about mileage but fail to say exactly what drivetrain they're using.

It's a 0.9 ltre 3 cyl, 55 hp, built in-house. Like Stangfan said, the prototypes have GEO engines.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on January 12, 2014, 12:44:06 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
Three wheelers in the US are motorcycles, and don't have to meet safety standards.

Probably depends on the State. Up here, the Campagna T-Rex is classified as a motorcycle, which means you wear a helmet and use an M license.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Mustangfan2003 on January 12, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
This thing would be badass with the 1.0 Ecoboost in it. 
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Rupert on January 12, 2014, 01:36:47 PM
They also say you don't need a helmet in states that I know for a fact have a motorcycle helmet law. Maybe the hard roof gives this thing an exception or something.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 06:10:08 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
Three wheelers in the US are motorcycles, and don't have to meet safety standards.

Right, but the website claims they'd earn top crash-test scores. "Each Elio comes equipped with a Safety Management System that includes three airbags – a reinforced roll-cage frame, Anti-Lock Braking System, and 50% larger crush zones than similar vehicles. Preliminary safety tests on computer models anticipate a 5-Star safety rating."

Lots of real cars don't get that five-star rating. I don't see how they'd pull it off in a car that's both smaller and less expensive.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 06:10:08 PM
Right, but the website claims they'd earn top crash-test scores. "Each Elio comes equipped with a Safety Management System that includes three airbags – a reinforced roll-cage frame, Anti-Lock Braking System, and 50% larger crush zones than similar vehicles. Preliminary safety tests on computer models anticipate a 5-Star safety rating."

Lots of real cars don't get that five-star rating. I don't see how they'd pull it off in a car that's both smaller and less expensive.

"similar vehicles."

I'm sure it'll fair much better than other motorcycles.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
"similar vehicles."

I'm sure it'll fair much better than other motorcycles.

What I mean is that if they achieve nearly the crash safety they claim, they'll struggle to sell the car at the promised price.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 07:22:14 PM
Quote from: ifcar on January 12, 2014, 07:03:42 PM
What I mean is that if they achieve nearly the crash safety they claim, they'll struggle to sell the car at the promised price.

Its a carefully worded statement: they're not promising anything there.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Byteme on January 12, 2014, 07:37:55 PM
This almost liiks like a reincarnation of the Dale

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jawbre9lipkjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

Promoted by this guy

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jb27nbs683jjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

http://jalopnik.com/murder-transsexuals-and-the-price-is-right-the-story-464820740 (http://jalopnik.com/murder-transsexuals-and-the-price-is-right-the-story-464820740)
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Soup DeVille on January 12, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Quote from: MiataJohn on January 12, 2014, 07:37:55 PM
This almost liiks like a reincarnation of the Dale

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jawbre9lipkjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

Promoted by this guy

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18jb27nbs683jjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)

http://jalopnik.com/murder-transsexuals-and-the-price-is-right-the-story-464820740 (http://jalopnik.com/murder-transsexuals-and-the-price-is-right-the-story-464820740)

ahhh, now ther's a horror from the '70s best forgotten.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: MrH on January 12, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
Ugh, that looks awful. I'll pass. I doubt it'll ever make it to market honestly, and if it does, I'm betting it'll be way more expensive than that.

I think there is a market, albeit really small, for such a thing though. If VW brought the three wheel concept they had to market, I'd go put a deposit down today.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: J86 on January 12, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
Every time I see the thread title I just think of this:

A Night at the Roxbury: Emilio Estevez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAuP4Sxh3eY#ws)
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Rupert on January 12, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on April 24, 2018, 12:30:29 PM
What the everfucking fuck?

https://jalopnik.com/elio-confirms-its-going-crypto-and-gets-a-2-5-million-1825497109

The first commenter sums it up best.  :facepalm:

I can't believe people are still willing to throw money at this. Maybe they miss their Juiceros.  :nutty:
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Laconian on April 24, 2018, 12:46:24 PM
Buttcoins are magic devices which part fools from their money.

As are Elio preorders.

Match made in heaven
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: Payman on April 24, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 24, 2018, 12:46:24 PM
Buttcoins are magic devices which part fools from their money.

As are Elio preorders.

Match made in heaven

I want a Doge Charger.
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: r0tor on April 24, 2018, 04:28:40 PM
I wonder if my old coworker still has a pre-order... He did it like 3 years ago at least
Title: Re: Elio!
Post by: 93JC on April 24, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on April 24, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
I want a Doge Charger.

wow

much power

              very want
                amaze