Which one? I would probably go with the proven one, even if it is old as dirt.
I don't know much about any other than the fact they are all diesels.
Care to post a little about each one?
Sure, imo...
The Cummins is the oldest and crudest, but known for lasting forever. It's internal engine parts are beefier. Gas mileage is respectable and torque is never lacking even though it is smallest in displacement at 5.9L and 6cyl. It's also very receptible to power upgrades. Many who go for performance are cranking out 600+ hp without the risk of damage that the other two diesels have. This engine is proven not only in trucks but has been used in busses and commercial vehicles with great success and longetivity. Basically, it's not only extremely capable stock, but can be upgraded to make incredible torque.
The Powerstroke is newer and has had reliability issues in the 6.0 especially. It's also made in 7.3. I wouldn't call it a bad engine by any means, and it may be more powerful than the Cummins when stock, but it is not capable of upgrading to the extent the Cummins is. One reason it is popular because it comes in an arguably better packge with a Ford truck to surround it. It's also worth mentioning that these engine issues were earlier and Ford tweaks them every year.
The Duramax is know for cracked heads. Alluminum is used in the heads, crankcase, accessory drive brackets. I guess this saves weight, but can lead to expensive repairs. It is otherwise solid, but unremarkable compared to the Cummins imo. However, the general consensus is that Allison trannies are the best in the business.
I would definately go with the Cummins. I like them all though.
The Cummins would also be my choice. It has the power and refinement of the other two with a proven design. It also gets more mpg.
QuoteSure, imo...
The Cummins is the oldest and crudest, but known for lasting forever. It's internal engine parts are beefier. Gas mileage is respectable and torque is never lacking even though it is smallest in displacement at 5.9L and 6cyl. It's also very receptible to power upgrades. Many who go for performance are cranking out 600+ hp without the risk of damage that the other two diesels have. This engine is proven not only in trucks but has been used in busses and commercial vehicles with great success and longetivity. Basically, it's not only extremely capable stock, but can be upgraded to make incredible torque.
The Powerstroke is newer and has had reliability issues in the 6.0 especially. It's also made in 7.3. I wouldn't call it a bad engine by any means, and it may be more powerful than the Cummins when stock, but it is not capable of upgrading to the extent the Cummins is. One reason it is popular because it comes in an arguably better packge with a Ford truck to surround it. It's also worth mentioning that these engine issues were earlier and Ford tweaks them every year.
The Duramax is know for cracked heads. Alluminum is used in the heads, crankcase, accessory drive brackets. I guess this saves weight, but can lead to expensive repairs. It is otherwise solid, but unremarkable compared to the Cummins imo. However, the general consensus is that Allison trannies are the best in the business.
I would definately go with the Cummins. I like them all though.
So there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Cummins ever or what? Because there you praised the Cummins, but shit on the other two.
QuoteQuoteSure, imo...
The Cummins is the oldest and crudest, but known for lasting forever. It's internal engine parts are beefier. Gas mileage is respectable and torque is never lacking even though it is smallest in displacement at 5.9L and 6cyl. It's also very receptible to power upgrades. Many who go for performance are cranking out 600+ hp without the risk of damage that the other two diesels have. This engine is proven not only in trucks but has been used in busses and commercial vehicles with great success and longetivity. Basically, it's not only extremely capable stock, but can be upgraded to make incredible torque.
The Powerstroke is newer and has had reliability issues in the 6.0 especially. It's also made in 7.3. I wouldn't call it a bad engine by any means, and it may be more powerful than the Cummins when stock, but it is not capable of upgrading to the extent the Cummins is. One reason it is popular because it comes in an arguably better packge with a Ford truck to surround it. It's also worth mentioning that these engine issues were earlier and Ford tweaks them every year.
The Duramax is know for cracked heads. Alluminum is used in the heads, crankcase, accessory drive brackets. I guess this saves weight, but can lead to expensive repairs. It is otherwise solid, but unremarkable compared to the Cummins imo. However, the general consensus is that Allison trannies are the best in the business.
I would definately go with the Cummins. I like them all though.
So there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Cummins ever or what? Because there you praised the Cummins, but shit on the other two.
:blink:
Read the last sentence. I also thought everyone would realize that I was talking in relative terms. I set the Cummins as the benchmark and explained why I feel the other two are worse. I never said they are bad.
Also, I clearly said the Cummins is old and crude. It runs pretty roughly. Jeez, I said all that in my post and you retardedly say that I "shit on the other two"
I've always liked the sound and availablility of torque of Powerstrokes straight from the factory, but I don't like the reliability issues in the new 6.0L
Plus, the truck you get with it looks friggen sweet!
(http://www.autobytel.com/images/carpics/testdrv/suemead/500/04FordF250_2.jpg)
The cummins actually seems more refined than the PSD to me.
When it comes down to it...if i had to pick between Powerstroke..or the Duramax...i choose the duramax...now between the cummins and the duramax...it would be tough..
Cummins by far has the funniest name.
QuoteCummins by far has the funniest name.
i saw a truck with "cummin" on the back the other day... :rolleyes:
QuoteCummins by far has the funniest name.
You could make an argument for Powerstroke :lol:
QuoteQuoteCummins by far has the funniest name.
You could make an argument for Powerstroke :lol:
:D
All three could easily be names of condoms too...
QuoteAll three could easily be names of condoms too...
:lol: I think there actually is a Duramax. If not Duramax, Dura-something.
Dura-2000. ;)
QuoteDura-2000. ;)
I'm sure you would know. Those Canadians start early ;) :lol:
So I guess no one really cares about diesels? :(
QuoteQuoteDura-2000. ;)
I'm sure you would know. Those Canadians start early ;) :lol:
Not positive. :P
As for diesels, I'm not too interested in the new ones because there's no chance of me owing one...
I wouldn't mind knowing more about the GM 6.2L though, since they're found in the chevy pickups I like.
First of all, it's Durex:
(http://www.jollyjohns.com/img/product/large/30.jpg)
One of the more popular condom brands. Either Durex or Trojan are the most popular.
Second of all, ideally, I'd like a Cummins coupled to an Allison automatic (not sure if the Silverado/Sierra's transmission could be adapted to the Cummins ISB, but there are Allison automatics used with other Cummins engines: newer transit buses 'round here use 8.3L Cummins ISCs and 5-speed Allisons).
Finally, a Detroit Diesel 6.2L is basically the same as a 6.5L, still used in the Hummer H1.
Jah, but there is a Dura-2000 I beleive...
I've got a couple Durexs. Purple package.
QuoteJah, but there is a Dura-2000 I beleive...
Pretty sure there ain't.
Quote
I've got a couple Durexs. Purple package.
Thin ones if I remember correctly.
Who needs 'em? I got an old Milkey Way wrapper.
(Family guy :D )
I have only driven the powerstroke and duramax, from those two i'd choose the duramax.
QuoteWho needs 'em? I got an old Milkey Way wrapper.
(Family guy :D )
:lol:
"OW! You missed!"
"No, I didn't. That's for closing the window when I tried to jump in the General Lee!"
QuoteWhich one? I would probably go with the proven one, even if it is old as dirt.
Think of it this way, 80% of the people in my town own a truck. All the newer fords are most likely deisel, same with the dodges. Chevys are gas but about 50% are deisel. GM aside from the H1 doesn't make the best deisel engines, but crystler does make very good engines. Though there gas engines just suck. Fords mediocore on all fronts.
If you buy a deisel get a dodge, the chevys are pretty good and do last longer but if it does break it breaks hard. If you deside to go gas get a chevy, there engine last for ever, crystler is just about as good, but it will have lower fuel mileage. Fords don't seem to last long, and freqintly fall apart. If I remember right they have the lowest long term duribility rating of any domestic truck.
If you get a toyota truck they do have desiel, but I think they are only avalible in small numbers over sea's.
QuoteI've always liked the sound and availablility of torque of Powerstrokes straight from the factory, but I don't like the reliability issues in the new 6.0L
Plus, the truck you get with it looks friggen sweet!
(http://www.autobytel.com/images/carpics/testdrv/suemead/500/04FordF250_2.jpg)
You mean it looks like a dodge?
93JC, I thought the H1 switched to the Duramax.
I would prefer the Cummins myself. I remember reading when it came out in 2003 that it was improved A LOT and was actually more refined than the competitors.
Five years ago, I would have chosen the Powerstroke, because the Cummins was far too noisy back then and the 7.3L Powerstroke was more reliable than the 6.0L is.
I've spent quite a bit of time riding around in my cousin's 2000 7.3L Powerstoke F-250 Lariat. It is fairly quiet, comfortable, and the acceleration was great. However, the trailer-pulling torque was the best part of all with that truck. :rockon:
I actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
Quote93JC, I thought the H1 switched to the Duramax.
A little poking around on hummer.com confirms this.
Sorry, I didn't know. :ph34r:
We don't even get the H1 in Canada anymore...
QuoteI actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
What gets annoying are the guys with like straight pipe 8inch exhast that dumps out right in front of the back wheel....i love the huge turbo whine..but the exhast is louder that a harley at full throttle...and the smoke is extremely annoying...needless to say...i know at least 4 in my small town... <_<
QuoteQuoteI actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
What gets annoying are the guys with like straight pipe 8inch exhast that dumps out right in front of the back wheel....i love the huge turbo whine..but the exhast is louder that a harley at full throttle...and the smoke is extremely annoying...needless to say...i know at least 4 in my small town... <_<
I like everything you just said you disliked. ^_^
QuoteQuoteQuoteI actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
What gets annoying are the guys with like straight pipe 8inch exhast that dumps out right in front of the back wheel....i love the huge turbo whine..but the exhast is louder that a harley at full throttle...and the smoke is extremely annoying...needless to say...i know at least 4 in my small town... <_<
I like everything you just said you disliked. ^_^
I'm not sure you understand how friggin loud these trucks are...i can hear them a mile away...and since my ears are vital to playing/singing on pitch they bother me a little, plus i can hear them a mile away <_<
i love turbo whine...but an exhast tone that is loud enough to cause pain is way too much
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
What gets annoying are the guys with like straight pipe 8inch exhast that dumps out right in front of the back wheel....i love the huge turbo whine..but the exhast is louder that a harley at full throttle...and the smoke is extremely annoying...needless to say...i know at least 4 in my small town... <_<
I like everything you just said you disliked. ^_^
I'm not sure you understand how friggin loud these trucks are...i can hear them a mile away...and since my ears are vital to playing/singing on pitch they bother me a little, plus i can hear them a mile away <_<
i love turbo whine...but an exhast tone that is loud enough to cause pain is way too much
Well I guess if it causes pain, yes, it's a little overboard, but I tend to like those loud diesel truck exhaust pipes.
Yeah i do to..but i would hate to drive a loud one around all the time
I want to put dual exhast on the truck...its already got a decent exhast note FROM THE FACTORY :rockon: ...and i think the mustang would sound a little better with dual's as well....now for the money issue :angry: <_<
Whenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
QuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
:lol: ...my thoughts exactly :praise:
Bah... there's a big old red Dodge Ramcharger up here that sounds goood.
The Vanagon with the awful exhaust leak, that's what I had a problem with.
QuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
QuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
QuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment, but onroad SUVs are just pointless. Wagons do a more efficient job of hauling, and often result in a only a minor loss of cargo space, if any.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it.? I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
Hey, at least his look-at-me-mobile has a small powerplant.
QuoteI mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts?
Same reason you're driving a Passat and not a Cavalier.
You have the means.
QuoteQuoteI actually love the sound of a pre-'03 cummins. It sounds like a semi truck, though its volume might get obnoxious after a little time.
What gets annoying are the guys with like straight pipe 8inch exhast that dumps out right in front of the back wheel....i love the huge turbo whine..but the exhast is louder that a harley at full throttle...and the smoke is extremely annoying...needless to say...i know at least 4 in my small town... <_<
They only smoke if the person maintaining the trucks retarded, keep all the filters clean, good clean oil, and good glow thing-ys and the damn thing won't smoke. Also if it doesn't get to cold and you can get your local BK's and micdonadls to give up fryer oil run bio-deisel. It'll smell like french fries when running. Something like 28 cents a gallon when you make it your self, you'll need a reactor, pre-made are around $1500 but we spend that much on Gas every year for our truck. I'd run a Bio-truck but it gets around 13 in the winter so the stuff would gel up like cold gravy. <_<
Tax breaks when you run the stuff too, don't know how much but $0.28 vs $2.55 you choose.
The average person isn't capable of making biodiesel. I'm not sure where you got the $.28, but to buy pre-made stuff it's like 5 bucks, atleast where I live. Making it is difficult but I guess it could be cheap if you know what you're doing. Stations that sell it are rare. If you want to run straight veg oil(from Micdonalds or wherever) it is certainly possible but requires a little bit of engine modification. Worth it imo, but not recommended with a stock diesel engine.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
I'm not slash and burning, but I'm not an activist. I think of the environment in a financial way--that is, it's in our best interest economically to take care of the environment.
And "burns my biscuits" is my line!
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
Hey, at least his look-at-me-mobile has a small powerplant.
The Passat is a "look-at-me" car now?
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
I'm not slash and burning, but I'm not an activist. I think of the environment in a financial way--that is, it's in our best interest economically to take care of the environment.
And "burns my biscuits" is my line!
Hehe, burnt :P
QuoteQuoteI mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts?
Same reason you're driving a Passat and not a Cavalier.
You have the means.
I mean there's quality and then there's excessiveness.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
I'm not slash and burning, but I'm not an activist. I think of the environment in a financial way--that is, it's in our best interest economically to take care of the environment.
And "burns my biscuits" is my line!
Hehe, burnt :P
Hippie.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
I'm not slash and burning, but I'm not an activist. I think of the environment in a financial way--that is, it's in our best interest economically to take care of the environment.
And "burns my biscuits" is my line!
Hehe, burnt :P
Hippie.
Cheney.
QuoteThe average person isn't capable of making biodiesel. I'm not sure where you got the $.28, but to buy pre-made stuff it's like 5 bucks, atleast where I live. Making it is difficult but I guess it could be cheap if you know what you're doing. Stations that sell it are rare. If you want to run straight veg oil(from Micdonalds or wherever) it is certainly possible but requires a little bit of engine modification. Worth it imo, but not recommended with a stock diesel engine.
I thought you could make bio-diesel...i remeber watching a show that showed you how to make it...mabey it was on trucks one day
QuoteQuoteThe average person isn't capable of making biodiesel. I'm not sure where you got the $.28, but to buy pre-made stuff it's like 5 bucks, atleast where I live. Making it is difficult but I guess it could be cheap if you know what you're doing. Stations that sell it are rare. If you want to run straight veg oil(from Micdonalds or wherever) it is certainly possible but requires a little bit of engine modification. Worth it imo, but not recommended with a stock diesel engine.
I thought you could make bio-diesel...i remeber watching a show that showed you how to make it...mabey it was on trucks one day
You're right Kev, I watched that one, too. It's fairly simple as long as you follow the instructions on the mixing.
This, I believe, was the website he gave for the product(s) he used...
http://biodieselamerica.org/biosite/index....d=141,0,0,1,0,0 (http://biodieselamerica.org/biosite/index.php?id=141,0,0,1,0,0)
Go to the Products link on the left and you will find yourself looking at home-brewing biodiesel machines. 1300 bucks for the cheapest one.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
No no, argue about it nonstop over the internet.
I'm sure that in the end, one of you will be a changed man.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
No no, argue about it nonstop over the internet.
I'm sure that in the end, one of you will be a changed man.
Wtf? I said "I can let it go" and I did.
QuoteQuoteThe average person isn't capable of making biodiesel. I'm not sure where you got the $.28, but to buy pre-made stuff it's like 5 bucks, atleast where I live. Making it is difficult but I guess it could be cheap if you know what you're doing. Stations that sell it are rare. If you want to run straight veg oil(from Micdonalds or wherever) it is certainly possible but requires a little bit of engine modification. Worth it imo, but not recommended with a stock diesel engine.
I thought you could make bio-diesel...i remeber watching a show that showed you how to make it...mabey it was on trucks one day
If you want to make it and you can do a good job, more power to you. Seriously, that would be really cool. But honestly I wouldn't trust some guy over the internet or a tv show without looking into it some more. It involves some dangerous and flammable stuff and I believe there are laws that say you can mix biodiesel within a certain radius of another house or something.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
No no, argue about it nonstop over the internet.
I'm sure that in the end, one of you will be a changed man.
Wtf? I said "I can let it go" and I did.
I was being sarcastic, of course you let it go. Either let it go, or start argueing were your two choices basically.
I was just commenting on how pointless ....
everything is, as in the end nothing makes a difference.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhenever I hear a truck/SUV before I can see it, I want to pull a gun out and shoot the driver in the face with it. I'd have plenty of time to set up, too.
The quality is almost as bad as the quantity. Never a nice smooth rumble, always a coarse "FOO BLAP FOO BLAP FOO BLAP".
Exactly.
Trucks in general irk me. I mean, I get people who use them, but how many housewives need fucking Excursions with exhausts? I like things small and quick and nimble, not large and slow and clumsy.
I think people are embarrased to drive minivans, which are perfect for parents. So instead they go for SUVs, the enviroment-hurting jackasses.
I don't really care about the environment,
That attitude burns my biscuits, but I guess I can let it go.
No no, argue about it nonstop over the internet.
I'm sure that in the end, one of you will be a changed man.
Wtf? I said "I can let it go" and I did.
I was being sarcastic, of course you let it go. Either let it go, or start argueing were your two choices basically.
I was just commenting on how pointless ....everything is, as in the end nothing makes a difference.
Have a bad day?
Nope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
QuoteNope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
;) =the new "you're an asshole" smilie. Just a helpful tip while you're at it :P
QuoteQuoteNope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
;) =the new "you're an asshole" smilie. Just a helpful tip while you're at it :P
Ah, forgot about that. I quoted you and posted 2 of them in that thread. ;)
:lol:
QuoteQuoteQuoteNope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
;) =the new "you're an asshole" smilie. Just a helpful tip while you're at it :P
Ah, forgot about that. I quoted you and posted 2 of them in that thread. ;)
:lol:
What thread was this again? I completely forget.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
;) =the new "you're an asshole" smilie. Just a helpful tip while you're at it :P
Ah, forgot about that. I quoted you and posted 2 of them in that thread. ;)
:lol:
What thread was this again? I completely forget.
http://forums.carspin.net/index.php?showtopic=3097&st=15&hl= (http://forums.carspin.net/index.php?showtopic=3097&st=15&hl=) ;)
:P
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNope, as I posted in the Chat, I'm being an asshole to everyone and enjoying it.:lol:
;) =the new "you're an asshole" smilie. Just a helpful tip while you're at it :P
Ah, forgot about that. I quoted you and posted 2 of them in that thread. ;)
:lol:
What thread was this again? I completely forget.
http://forums.carspin.net/index.php?showtopic=3097&st=15&hl= (http://forums.carspin.net/index.php?showtopic=3097&st=15&hl=) ;)
:P
Oh, right :praise:
QuoteQuoteQuoteThe average person isn't capable of making biodiesel. I'm not sure where you got the $.28, but to buy pre-made stuff it's like 5 bucks, atleast where I live. Making it is difficult but I guess it could be cheap if you know what you're doing. Stations that sell it are rare. If you want to run straight veg oil(from Micdonalds or wherever) it is certainly possible but requires a little bit of engine modification. Worth it imo, but not recommended with a stock diesel engine.
I thought you could make bio-diesel...i remeber watching a show that showed you how to make it...mabey it was on trucks one day
You're right Kev, I watched that one, too. It's fairly simple as long as you follow the instructions on the mixing.
This, I believe, was the website he gave for the product(s) he used...
http://biodieselamerica.org/biosite/index....d=141,0,0,1,0,0 (http://biodieselamerica.org/biosite/index.php?id=141,0,0,1,0,0)
Go to the Products link on the left and you will find yourself looking at home-brewing biodiesel machines. 1300 bucks for the cheapest one.
Umm..Tom..did you see this ;) ....i saw him do it..so...just letting you know