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Poll
Question: Assuming money is no object....
Option 1: 911 R votes: 2
Option 2: Turbo S votes: 5
Option 3: Mugen Civic RR votes: 2
Title: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 12:46:29 PM
Someone said they'd want a Turbo S for a daily if they won the lotto. I thought that was a really weird choice.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 25, 2016, 12:50:05 PM
Bra.  You couldn't even daily drive a 350Z.  Stop acting like you're some hard ass that'd daily drive a car without AC or a radio.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 01:09:30 PM
911R can be equipped with A/C and a radio though. FAIL. (http://cc.porsche.com/icc_pcna/ccCall.do?rt=1469473655&screen=1600x900&userID=USM&lang=us&PARAM=parameter_internet_us&ORDERTYPE=991880&MODELYEAR=2016&hookURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.porsche.com%2fusa%2fmodelstart%2f)

And if I won the lottery I wouldn't be commuting 500 miles a week. Z was great when I was working from home. You might as well say 'I would go with the Turbo S cause it has better gas mileage'. If you won the lotto what does that shit matter?

You get an A for effort but maybe next time! Don't take it so personally!
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Rich on July 25, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 12:46:29 PM
Someone said they'd want a Turbo S for a daily if they won the lotto.


Where?
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2016, 12:22:49 PM
Yeah, the Turbo S continues to get more and more absurd.  IMO, it's the perfect daily driver.  If I won the lottery, that's what I'd daily.

BTW Mr H this was not meant as a call out, I just thought that was really interesting. Calm down

For me, 911 R no question. Like I said the Z was pretty good before I started to have to commute with it. I think that was the turning point. If I won the lotto I wouldn't work so a hardcore sports car for a daily would work for sure.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 25, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
If I won the lottery, give me an all weather capable weapon that doesn't beat me up.  I'd have plenty of money for track toys too (BAC mono, GT3 RS, etc), but I wouldn't daily drive those in snowy Ohio.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
You would stay in snowy Ohio if you won the lottery? :confused: I thought we were talking dazzleman FU money here.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 68_427 on July 25, 2016, 02:20:46 PM
He could buy the state for lotto money
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 25, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
You would stay in snowy Ohio if you won the lottery? :confused: I thought we were talking dazzleman FU money here.

I wouldn't abandon all my friends and family for better weather.  If I won the lottery, I'd have a vacation home too, but I wouldn't move away from Ohio :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 02:49:38 PM
911R. Because 3 pedals.

Give me one without A/C or radio either. That shit is useless in California (where I'm obviously going to stay if I win the lottery).
Title: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on July 25, 2016, 02:58:02 PM
I wouldn't daily either down here because both our to exotic. If I was offered a 911R at MSRP I'd pick that.

But I totally agree with Mike that the Turbo S is the much better daily.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 25, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 02:49:38 PM
911R. Because 3 pedals.

Give me one without A/C or radio either. That shit is useless in California (where I'm obviously going to stay if I win the lottery).

Air conditioning and radio are useless in California?
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 25, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
Air conditioning and radio are useless in California?

AC is, yes. Radio is useless everywhere.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on July 25, 2016, 04:04:33 PM
Just noticed Civic is an option in the poll. Given that this thread was started by Sporty, definitely that all the way.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 25, 2016, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 25, 2016, 04:04:33 PM
Just noticed Civic is an option in the poll. Given that this thread was started by Sporty, definitely that all the way.

That was my vote too. Welcome to the cool club. :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Xer0 on July 25, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 25, 2016, 04:04:33 PM
Just noticed Civic is an option in the poll. Given that this thread was started by Sporty, definitely that all the way.

To be fair, the RR is probably the coolest FWD car ever.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
I wouldn't abandon all my friends and family for better weather.  If I won the lottery, I'd have a vacation home too, but I wouldn't move away from Ohio :huh:
Lotto money = you will probably need new friends, and redefined relationships with a lot of family. Plus lotto money = no need for a home base anyway. 2% a year of a couple million dollars = me n' wifey will be luxury nomads, with me hitting up tracks on various cars & bikes around the world. "Jeeves, send the Exige V6 and RC213-S to Suzuka in two weeks :golfclap:" So in a way to me the concept of a lotto money daily driver doesn't make sense.... hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank, why limit myself to one car, one house, one location etc.? Dream bigger ;)

But for the sake of the thread, between these two, I would prefer to jump in the 911 R for a milk run. Naturally it would be up at our summer house on a mountain. Launch control, vacuum cleaner induction noises and foul weather traction don't hold a candle to nailing 8800 RPM downshifts echoing off of rock walls :wub: If I had lotto $$$ I would never experience a nasty cold up north winter again.....
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
Murda turned Pastor turned Murda Mase said it best- "if money ain't change you, you ain't make enough" :praise: I don't like being the richest guy in the crew anyway.
Title: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 25, 2016, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
Murda turned Pastor turned Murda Mase said it best- "if money ain't change you, you ain't make enough" :praise: I don't like being the richest guy in the crew anyway.


...what.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 25, 2016, 08:34:04 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
AC is, yes. Radio is useless everywhere.

Mate, I've been to California.  AC is not useless. 
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 25, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2016, 06:58:45 PM

...what.
Point being if I won the lotto I would do different things.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 25, 2016, 08:44:00 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 25, 2016, 08:34:04 PM
Mate, I've been to California.  AC is not useless. 

Also I want a radio while sitting in traffic jams.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 25, 2016, 08:34:04 PM
Mate, I've been to California.  AC is not useless. 

Broseph, I've lived here almost all my life. Don't need A/C.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 68_427 on July 25, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
Why not add the 991.2 GT3?  Less limited than the R but will have three pedals.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 25, 2016, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 09:21:38 PM
Broseph, I've lived here almost all my life. Don't need A/C.

I've been all up and down that state (well, to an extent). I can't remember a single time I wasn't using AC. If it gets over 70, the AC gets turned on.

And I like music when I drive, so some sort of music system is necessary.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on July 25, 2016, 11:15:51 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 25, 2016, 08:44:00 PM
Also I want a radio while sitting in traffic jams.
:lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 25, 2016, 10:28:41 PM
I've been all up and down that state (well, to an extent). I can't remember a single time I wasn't using AC. If it gets over 70, the AC gets turned on.

And I like music when I drive, so some sort of music system is necessary.

I haven't used the A/C in years in my car so I pulled it out last month. None of the houses I've lived in in this area have A/C either so I don't feel it's needed. :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 26, 2016, 04:50:45 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 12:19:33 AM
I haven't used the A/C in years in my car so I pulled it out last month. None of the houses I've lived in in this area have A/C either so I don't feel it's needed. :huh:

No wonder people say Californians are crazy.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 68_427 on July 26, 2016, 05:13:14 AM
I don't use A/C even when I had it because I hate knowing and feeling the power loss.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 12:19:33 AM
I haven't used the A/C in years in my car so I pulled it out last month. None of the houses I've lived in in this area have A/C either so I don't feel it's needed. :huh:
That's nice. You making a point not to use A/C though doesn't mean everyone else has to though. You are like those guys who run around in shorts in the winter. "What? What? I don't even feel it. I'm not cold. What? What? Bro it feels like summer *jogs in place*"
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 26, 2016, 07:30:17 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 26, 2016, 05:13:14 AM
I don't use A/C even when I had it because I hate knowing and feeling the power loss.

Get a car with enough power and you won't notice it.   :devil:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 26, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
That's nice. You making a point not to use A/C though doesn't mean everyone else has to though. You are like those guys who run around in shorts in the winter. "What? What? I don't even feel it. I'm not cold. What? What? Bro it feels like summer *jogs in place*"

:lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 26, 2016, 07:44:33 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 26, 2016, 07:30:17 AM
Get a car with enough power and you won't notice it.   :devil:

Took the words right outta my mouth :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 10:44:56 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
That's nice. You making a point not to use A/C though doesn't mean everyone else has to though. You are like those guys who run around in shorts in the winter. "What? What? I don't even feel it. I'm not cold. What? What? Bro it feels like summer *jogs in place*"

Lol someone is butthurt.

Did I ever tell you or anyone else to not use AC or pull it out of their car? It's useless to me where I live because I've always lived without it. :huh:

Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 10:44:56 AM
Lol someone is butthurt.

Did I ever tell you or anyone else to not use AC or pull it out of their car? It's useless to me where I live because I've always lived without it. :huh:
You said it's useless in California. Being that folks where you live use it, I'd have to disagree. I work with HVAC at my job. You are what we call an "outlier" :lol: No butthurt here, I have transcended such emotional frivolity.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
You said it's useless in California. Being that folks where you live use it, I'd have to disagree. I work with HVAC at my job. You are what we call an "outlier" :lol: No butthurt here, I have transcended such emotional frivolity.

I just said "useless to me". Yes, I'm an outlier.

I thought this thread was asking what we, individually, would pick if we won the lottery. I didn't realize we needed the 'SPIN's approval before buying said car. My bad.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 26, 2016, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 26, 2016, 01:51:04 PM
I didn't realize we needed the 'SPIN's approval before buying said car.

What a silly assumption! :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 68_427 on July 26, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 26, 2016, 07:30:17 AM
Get a car with enough power and you won't notice it.   :devil:

My friends wrx makes 320awhp and you can feel it.  Plus I said the fact that I KNOW it's happening is another reason.  Unless it's solar powered
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 26, 2016, 05:24:31 PM
Torque is the key
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 26, 2016, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 26, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
My friends wrx makes 320awhp and you can feel it.  Plus I said the fact that I KNOW it's happening is another reason.  Unless it's solar powered

It's psychosomatic.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MX793 on July 26, 2016, 05:36:14 PM
Modern cars will shut the AC off when you go full throttle anyway to give you max power.  Never really felt it in my old Mustang, nor my new one, but I do notice a drop in fuel economy when using it.  Definitely felt it in my lower powered cars (Nissan, Mazda, and VW), plus fuel economy penalty.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 26, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
I think it's more heat soak than anything. Z felt like it lost 20-30HP in the summer even with the A/C off or at WOT.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on July 26, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 26, 2016, 04:27:26 PM
My friends wrx makes 320awhp and you can feel it.  Plus I said the fact that I KNOW it's happening is another reason.  Unless it's solar powered

If you can feel the A/C power drain then something is wrong with those horses. I feel zero difference in my cars. Last time I felt a difference was in my '99 Plymouth Breeze.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 26, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 26, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
Last time I felt a difference was in my '99 Plymouth Breeze.

Better have damn good A/C with a name like that.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: BimmerM3 on July 27, 2016, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
I wouldn't abandon all my friends and family for better weather.  If I won the lottery, I'd have a vacation home too, but I wouldn't move away from Ohio :huh:

I abandoned all of my friends and family for mountains. :huh: Best decision ever. :lol:

You can make new friends and with lottery money, you could go home to visit whenever you want.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 07:25:50 AM
I'm a little flabbergasted. Family and friends are important. But not enough to stay in Ohio if I have a choice :lol: I communicate with my mom regularly via cell phone... I think Mr H has one, I have seen him in the cell phone thread.

This might warrant another thread
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 07:45:47 AM
My best friends are mostly all in the area.  Family is here too.  I'd probably split time between Ohio and a beach somewhere :huh:

But I wouldn't just abandon this place.  What's life without your friends and family?
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 08:03:36 AM
Like I said I still keep in touch with my mom. But my dad and I have only just become amicable again after a few years of beefing. And shit is still touch and go. Haven't seen him since my wedding in 2012. Friends come and go too. I have some true blue lifelong best friends, but they are all over the country. And friends from the neighborhood I grew up in mostly aren't doing shit so I don't keep up with them. Sad truth is most friendships hinge heavily on convenience. I can count the # of people I truly consider my friends on one hand, and that's including my wife. But I have dozens if not hundreds of "acquaintances".

It's 2016.... strong relationships are portable. Life is too short to win the lotto and stay in Ohio :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 08:24:21 AM
Sorry you don't have any friends :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 27, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 27, 2016, 07:45:47 AM
My best friends are mostly all in the area.  Family is here too.  I'd probably split time between Ohio and a beach somewhere :huh:

But I wouldn't just abandon this place.  What's life without your friends and family?

I don't know.  I love some of the people in my family.  But to live in Ohio for them? 
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
I don't listen to opinions about Ohio from people who have never been here. :lol: I was just driving through Cincy yesterday and found some cool houses in a really cool neighborhood. With the hills around the city sometimes it looks more like San Fran than the flat boring Ohio you guys are probably thinking of.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 27, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 09:14:52 AM
I don't listen to opinions about Ohio from people who have never been here. :lol: I was just driving through Cincy yesterday and found some cool houses in a really cool neighborhood. With the hills around the city sometimes it looks more like San Fran than the flat boring Ohio you guys are probably thinking of.

I'm from Pennsylvania and went to Penn State; I can't accept Ohio on principle. 
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 10:27:50 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 27, 2016, 08:24:21 AM
Sorry you don't have any friends :huh:
Sorry you can't make friends outside the state of Ohio :cry:

I'd rather have no friends than be trapped there :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: BimmerM3 on July 27, 2016, 02:01:39 PM
(http://aviationhumor.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/OhioAstronauts.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 10:27:50 AM
Sorry you can't make friends outside the state of Ohio :cry:

I'd rather have no friends than be trapped there :lol:

Have you even been to Columbus or Cincinnati?
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 27, 2016, 02:16:21 PM
Have you even been to Columbus or Cincinnati?
No, but I have a lot of FRIENDS down here who moved from up there. None of them want to go back or have anything great to say about Ohio. I know one girl who moved back and she is moving back down here. She says she made a huge mistake :lol:

Look man I totally get it.... you like being a big fish in a small pond and are scared to step out of your comfort zone. It is what it is :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Don't you live in Greensboro?  Cincinnati metro is bigger than Greensboro metro... :confused:

No, I get you.  You don't have any friends.  You can go be a loaner wherever you want.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Naw, I live in Charlotte. Lol @ the rest, and more importantly lol @ winning the lotto and staying in Ohio. I still can't believe you passed on a chance to move to Germany to stay there. W/e though man you have it all figured out :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 02:34:03 PM
No, but I have a lot of FRIENDS down here who moved from up there. None of them want to go back or have anything great to say about Ohio.

Generally speaking, people who move from one place to somewhere else do so because they didn't like living where they left from.  Doesn't make where they left from a bad place, just not the right place for them.  My dad, after spending his entire life in upstate NY, moved to Florida a few years back and loves it.  All I hear is how great his little town down there is and how all of his friends down there are people who moved from the Rust belt like him and they also love it and would never go back.  You couldn't pay me to live in Florida.  Not that upstate NY is the greatest place on the planet, or that I'd stick around if I landed a big jackpot, but I'd absolutely live up here over Florida if those were my two choices.  Different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: FoMoJo on July 27, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Generally speaking, people who move from one place to somewhere else do so because they didn't like living where they left from.  Doesn't make where they left from a bad place, just not the right place for them.  My dad, after spending his entire life in upstate NY, moved to Florida a few years back and loves it.  All I hear is how great his little town down there is and how all of his friends down there are people who moved from the Rust belt like him and they also love it and would never go back.  You couldn't pay me to live in Florida.  Not that upstate NY is the greatest place on the planet, or that I'd stick around if I landed a big jackpot, but I'd absolutely live up here over Florida if those were my two choices.  Different strokes for different folks.
just wait 'til you get old and creaky and need all that sunshine to warm your bones.  Just take a life-jacket with you 'cause it might be under water down there by then.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 27, 2016, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 27, 2016, 02:01:39 PM
(http://aviationhumor.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/OhioAstronauts.jpg)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 27, 2016, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 27, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
just wait 'til you get old and creaky and need all that sunshine to warm your bones.  Just take a life-jacket with you 'cause it might be under water down there by then.

Quote from: Raza  on July 27, 2016, 11:14:28 AM
Good, because that's how I fucking roll.

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/e/e5/Martyvest1955.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110112223247)


That's two in one day.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Ohio is also tied for being the home of the most presidents. It's a state that thrives on achieving great goals.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: FoMoJo on July 27, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Ohio is also tied for being the home of the most presidents. It's a state that thrives on achieving great goals.
...and buckeyes.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:34:38 PM
As for where I would go if I won the lottery - I'd probably buy a good plot of land in Ohio or Kentucky and build a car guy's dream garage. I'd also have a vacation home in LA and the Caribbean.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 27, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
...and buckeyes.


indeed

(http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/01/13/4b41b640-707b-4121-bed5-8ed5829e0cab/thumbnail/620x350/9027ea28ba3fdecdbe4ab4dbdcc06ba2/461466210.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: FoMoJo on July 27, 2016, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
indeed

(http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/01/13/4b41b640-707b-4121-bed5-8ed5829e0cab/thumbnail/620x350/9027ea28ba3fdecdbe4ab4dbdcc06ba2/461466210.jpg)
(https://s31.postimg.org/n63v2icx7/Ohio_Buckeye_State_Tree.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:34:38 PM
As for where I would go if I won the lottery - I'd probably buy a good plot of land in Ohio or Kentucky and build a car guy's dream garage. I'd also have a vacation home in LA and the Caribbean.

Isn't Kentucky and most of Ohio flat? Where is there to drive? :huh:

If I win the lottery I'm fucking off to the hillside and buying a remote piece of land connected to the twisties and building a giant garage there.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Isn't Kentucky and most of Ohio flat? Where is there to drive? :huh:

If I win the lottery I'm fucking off to the hillside and buying a remote piece of land connected to the twisties and building a giant garage there.

The eastern portion of both states are on the west end of the Appalachians (mountains and foothills).  Probably accounts for about 20-25% of Kentucky and 25-30% of Ohio.  Hocking Hills in Ohio is where some of the car mags based in the midwest (like C&D) go to do road testing because you get winding, hilly roads and it's fairly scenic for photo shoots.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:58:15 PM
If you turn left out of my neighborhood, you are on a twisty road.

The variety of amateur racing/autox events within driving distance is also higher here than most anywhere else. I love the LA car scene but you have to deal with traffic and other than San Diego, it's a pretty long drive to go to an event in another city. That's why I'd only have a vacation home there - go to some of the big events each year but have a home base further east where land is cheap and I can hit some of the other awesome events.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 05:10:56 PM
Yea I would avoid LA at all costs. You can't get the PCH anywhere else, but there are equally great roads elsewhere in the country. Anywhere there are mountains there will be good roads.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 05:19:55 PM
Quote from: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:51:09 PM
The eastern portion of both states are on the west end of the Appalachians (mountains and foothills).  Probably accounts for about 20-25% of Kentucky and 25-30% of Ohio.  Hocking Hills in Ohio is where some of the car mags based in the midwest (like C&D) go to do road testing because you get winding, hilly roads and it's fairly scenic for photo shoots.

I see. I was asking because I'm pretty ignorant of places outside my small bubble. :lol:

I do know that northern GA, South Carolina, etc have some amazing roads as well. I'd love to do a cross country motorcycle trip at some point.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 05:19:55 PM
I'd love to do a cross country motorcycle trip at some point.

If only there was a short cut across the desert/plains. :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 27, 2016, 09:02:07 PM
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 27, 2016, 04:31:10 PM
Ohio is also tied for being the home of the most presidents. It's a state that thrives on achieving great goals.

New York has more, if you count Grover Cleveland twice, as both the 22nd and 24th presidents of the United States. 

Still, Ohio has inspired those six men to do anything they could to get out of there, even if it meant going to DC, a city built on a swamp.
Title: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Isn't Kentucky and most of Ohio flat? Where is there to drive? :huh:

If I win the lottery I'm fucking off to the hillside and buying a remote piece of land connected to the twisties and building a giant garage there.

Dude, Ohio is where most of the car mags go for winding drives if they have a comparison test. Hocking hills is like the tail of the dragon but more woods.
Title: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 27, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 03:52:40 PM
Naw, I live in Charlotte. Lol @ the rest, and more importantly lol @ winning the lotto and staying in Ohio. I still can't believe you passed on a chance to move to Germany to stay there. W/e though man you have it all figured out :lol:

So Charlotte metro area is 2.3 million in population. Cincinnati is 2.1 million.

So proud of you for going to such a bigger pond than me.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on July 27, 2016, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 27, 2016, 10:27:50 AM
Sorry you can't make friends outside the state of Ohio :cry:

I'd rather have no friends than be trapped there :lol:
Unless you're from NYC (I know that's your home and people from that over packed island think the world revolves around it) , LA or one of the other few HUGE cities Cle, Col and Cincy are plenty big and offer more than enough to do!
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on July 27, 2016, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Isn't Kentucky and most of Ohio flat? Where is there to drive? :huh:
Not at all! Just like Hocking Hills there are lots of great winding roads once your outside the city!
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 68_427 on July 27, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Generally speaking, people who move from one place to somewhere else do so because they didn't like living where they left from.  Doesn't make where they left from a bad place, just not the right place for them.  My dad, after spending his entire life in upstate NY, moved to Florida a few years back and loves it.  All I hear is how great his little town down there is and how all of his friends down there are people who moved from the Rust belt like him and they also love it and would never go back.  You couldn't pay me to live in Florida.  Not that upstate NY is the greatest place on the planet, or that I'd stick around if I landed a big jackpot, but I'd absolutely live up here over Florida if those were my two choices.  Different strokes for different folks.

Yeah I could go down to Florida and live for free but fuck that place.  I cannot ever imagine living there.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 28, 2016, 05:34:29 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 27, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
Yeah I could go down to Florida and live for free but fuck that place.  I cannot ever imagine living there.

Florida Man is too terrifying.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 28, 2016, 05:44:14 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 27, 2016, 09:28:27 PM
So Charlotte metro area is 2.3 million in population. Cincinnati is 2.1 million.

So proud of you for going to such a bigger pond than me.
(http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif)
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MX793 on July 28, 2016, 05:48:58 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 27, 2016, 09:02:07 PM
New York has more, if you count Grover Cleveland twice, as both the 22nd and 24th presidents of the United States. 

Still, Ohio has inspired those six men to do anything they could to get out of there, even if it meant going to DC, a city built on a swamp.

Ohio can also claim the two presidents with the shortest terms and, I'm fairly certain, the most to die in office.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 28, 2016, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 28, 2016, 05:44:14 AM
(http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/lockerroom/movinggoalpost.gif)

:confused:  You said I wanted to be a big fish in a small pong.  I'm in the same size pond that you moved to...
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 28, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: MX793 on July 28, 2016, 05:48:58 AM
Ohio can also claim the two presidents with the shortest terms and, I'm fairly certain, the most to die in office.

:erjerbs:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 28, 2016, 08:47:42 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 28, 2016, 07:33:44 AM
:confused:  You said I wanted to be a big fish in a small pong.  I'm in the same size pond that you moved to...

A small pong!?

(http://tabletennisnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ping-pong-21.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: RomanChariot on July 28, 2016, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 28, 2016, 08:47:42 AM
A small pong!?

(http://tabletennisnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ping-pong-21.jpg)

It's poor form to comment on the size of another man's pong.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SVT_Power on July 29, 2016, 09:13:50 AM
Quote from: MX793 on July 27, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Generally speaking, people who move from one place to somewhere else do so because they didn't like living where they left from.  Doesn't make where they left from a bad place, just not the right place for them.  My dad, after spending his entire life in upstate NY, moved to Florida a few years back and loves it.  All I hear is how great his little town down there is and how all of his friends down there are people who moved from the Rust belt like him and they also love it and would never go back.  You couldn't pay me to live in Florida.  Not that upstate NY is the greatest place on the planet, or that I'd stick around if I landed a big jackpot, but I'd absolutely live up here over Florida if those were my two choices.  Different strokes for different folks.

If I won the lottery, I'd move to different parts of the world every few years. Not necessarily because I don't like where I am, but rather because life is short and I'd like to experience the world. Not just go see the sites for a couple of weeks, I'd like to experience what it really feels like to live there.

Some places I'd like to try:

- Kalifornia
- Boston
- London
- Paris
- Spain
- Somewhere in the Mediterranean
- Japan
- South American (although I dunno about that...I want to live for a while with my money instead of getting murdered)
- Somewhere nice in India, if that's even a thing
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Somewhere in Africa although I'm not sure where

Once I exhaust the places I want to try, I'll probably be at the age where I want to have a more permanent home location. Then I'll settle down there.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 29, 2016, 09:24:11 AM
I would stay in Philadelphia, but I'd definitely travel a lot.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on July 29, 2016, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 28, 2016, 08:47:42 AM
A small pong!?

(http://tabletennisnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ping-pong-21.jpg)

Wow.  Terrible technique.  I expected more, given that he's asian.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SVT_Power on July 29, 2016, 09:37:41 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 29, 2016, 09:24:11 AM
I would stay in Philadelphia, but I'd definitely travel a lot.

Why you wanna get shanked hombre?

Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SVT_Power on July 29, 2016, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 29, 2016, 09:31:57 AM
Wow.  Terrible technique.  I expected more, given that he's asian.

Y'all just don't know about the secret techniques
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 29, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
If I had to pick a home base I sincerely doubt it would be in the US. French countryside, Cayman islands, maybe even Ghana. Only upsides to the US are the opportunities to make money and the quality of healthcare. Winning the lotto makes those advantages irrelevant.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on July 29, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 29, 2016, 09:31:57 AM
Wow.  Terrible technique.  I expected more, given that he's asian.

He's the Ichiro Suzuki of ping pong. His form is all wrong, but his results can't be denied.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SVT_Power on July 29, 2016, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 29, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
If I had to pick a home base I sincerely doubt it would be in the US. French countryside, Cayman islands, maybe even Ghana.

You can become famous by being the first legitimate person to want to wire transfer a large sum of money from Africa elsewhere
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SJ_GTI on August 02, 2016, 09:53:21 AM
Late to the thread, but I chose Turbo S.

That being said, even if I was a billionaire I think I'd probably just get a Porsche 911 Carrera 4s (assuming it still comes it a manual). Nice all weather capability in a fun package.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on August 02, 2016, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 29, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
If I had to pick a home base I sincerely doubt it would be in the US. French countryside, Cayman islands, maybe even Ghana. Only upsides to the US are the opportunities to make money and the quality of healthcare. Winning the lotto makes those advantages irrelevant.

I think you've officially lost it. :confused:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Rich on August 02, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
Yaw needs to live in another country for a while :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: SVT_Power on August 02, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: MrH on August 02, 2016, 10:06:31 AM
I think you've officially lost it. :confused:

As much as he goes off the deep end occasionally, I don't see what's so blatantly insane about that idea  :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on August 02, 2016, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: SVT_Power on August 02, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
As much as he goes off the deep end occasionally, I don't see what's so blatantly insane about that idea  :huh:

"Only upsides to the US are the opportunities to make money and the quality of healthcare."

One, those are both huge.  YUGE even :lol:

And two, there's a lot more to the US than just that.

Quote from: Rich on August 02, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
Yaw needs to live in another country for a while :lol:

Exactly :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 02, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: SVT_Power on August 02, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
As much as he goes off the deep end occasionally, I don't see what's so blatantly insane about that idea  :huh:
What's insane about it is that I said it. Why would anyone possibly want to live anywhere but Ohio? Insanity indeed.
Quote from: MrH on August 02, 2016, 12:36:13 PM
"Only upsides to the US are the opportunities to make money and the quality of healthcare."

One, those are both huge.  YUGE even :lol:

And two, there's a lot more to the US than just that.

Exactly :lol:

Again, if one won the lotto, one wouldn't need to make money, or live in the US to make their nest egg grow.

2, if one won the lotto, they could just come back to the US for any emergency shit, and with that money could live a healthy stress-free lifestyle that would diminish the need of constant medical care in the first place, at least until very old age.

Very radical concepts for you, I know. I will go slower next time.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 08:45:45 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 29, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
If I had to pick a home base I sincerely doubt it would be in the US. French countryside, Cayman islands, maybe even Ghana. Only upsides to the US are the opportunities to make money and the quality of healthcare. Winning the lotto makes those advantages irrelevant.

Some (although not a lot) of time in Other Countries has convinced me that the US has a lot more to offer than that, and I don't even know where to start, but the phrase "human rights"'comes to mind very quickly.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
It depends a lot on the country in question. Winning the lottery enables the luxury of choice that would make such distinctions irrelevant. Nobody here would take their multi millions and move to Syria.

And I have spent multiple months at a time out of the country. I'm wondering if Mr. H has spent more than a week at a time out of Ohio
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
It depends a lot on the country in question. Winning the lottery enables the luxury of choice that would make such distinctions irrelevant. Nobody here would take their multi millions and move to Syria.

And I have spent multiple months at a time out of the country. I'm wondering if Mr. H has spent more than a week at a time out of Ohio

It does give you the luxury of choosing which country your money would support.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on August 03, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 09:47:06 AM
It does give you the luxury of choosing which country your money would support.

I'd probably buy residences in London and Paris, depending on the size of the lottery. If it's one of those pathetic $40m lotteries, I might just have to be satisfied with paying off my student loans, credit cards, and maybe buying a soda.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: MrH on August 03, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
I grew up in California.  Lived in Detroit for 3-4 months.  Traveled a ton for work and pleasure.  Been through a good portion of Europe, been to Germany 5 or 6 times, and lived there for a summer.  I've seen plenty to know that I have it pretty good in Ohio.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
Quote from: Raza  on August 03, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
I'd probably buy residences in London and Paris, depending on the size of the lottery. If it's one of those pathetic $40m lotteries, I might just have to be satisfied with paying off my student loans, credit cards, and maybe buying a soda.

London, yes. Paris probably not. Nice maybe, but more likely something a little less crowded. Honfleur maybe.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 10:42:53 AM
Yea, I would not want to set up shop in any big city again. If I did England or France it would be in the countryside, and even then only for a couple weeks out of the year as their weather is so shitty.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on August 03, 2016, 10:53:38 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 10:00:06 AM
London, yes. Paris probably not. Nice maybe, but more likely something a little less crowded. Honfleur maybe.

Actually yeah, something in Nice or Marseille might be nice.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on August 03, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 10:42:53 AM
Yea, I would not want to set up shop in any big city again. If I did England or France it would be in the countryside, and even then only for a couple weeks out of the year as their weather is so shitty.

I'm all about the cities.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: GoCougs on August 03, 2016, 11:54:38 AM
Quote from: MrH on August 03, 2016, 09:58:04 AM
I grew up in California.  Lived in Detroit for 3-4 months.  Traveled a ton for work and pleasure.  Been through a good portion of Europe, been to Germany 5 or 6 times, and lived there for a summer.  I've seen plenty to know that I have it pretty good in Ohio.

America is for Winners.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: Raza  on August 03, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
I'm all about the cities.

Cities are cool in limited doses. I'd keep an apartment in London perhaps. Go see the cool shows there whenever. Fly in for bangers and mash. Have a tailor I know by first name only.

But I couldn't live there forever.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
Quote from: Raza  on August 03, 2016, 10:54:25 AM
I'm all about the cities.
But the best roads are in the countryside. Plus people are generally shitty, and I thought you were a fellow misanthrope.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on August 03, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
Cities are cool in limited doses. I'd keep an apartment in London perhaps. Go see the cool shows there whenever. Fly in for bangers and mash. Have a tailor I know by first name only.

But I couldn't live there forever.

I feel the same about areas that aren't cities.  Nice to visit, but I couldn't live there. 
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Raza on August 03, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on August 03, 2016, 12:19:39 PM
But the best roads are in the countryside. Plus people are generally shitty, and I thought you were a fellow misanthrope.

Nah, I just don't like you guys.  I'm great with people.  :lol:
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 03, 2016, 02:56:16 PM
Quote from: Raza  on August 03, 2016, 12:38:13 PM
I feel the same about areas that aren't cities.  Nice to visit, but I couldn't live there. 

I think Hunter Thompson had the right idea when he built his place up in the mountains where he could do whatever the hell he wanted to.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Char on October 18, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on July 25, 2016, 04:01:32 PM
AC is, yes. Radio is useless everywhere.

Get Pandora or Spotify you dirty peasant.
Title: Re: Turbo S vs 911R
Post by: Tave on January 15, 2017, 09:57:01 AM
You could conceivably die of heatstroke driving through Death Valley without AC on a hot day. That's why it has such a cheerful name.