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I picked it up on Memorial Day. It's like a dream being able to tear down the Miata and really get after it without needing to drive it. It's also nice having a car I can redline without worry or abandon.
Pros:
Steering feel
LED headlights
Tach front and center
Cheap as fuck
Decent shifter
Great seat bolsters
Has a drivers info center, remote unlock, steering wheel audio controls, rear seats (that fold, too!), Bluetooth phone use.... all the shit you guys are probably used to that I haven't had for 5 years.
Cons
Throttle calibration/tuning needs help. It's an on/off switch
The shifter is notchy on the 5 to 4 downshift
It looks like a fat cockroach from anything other than the front
Bottom line:
Pretty much the deal of a century for someone that loves driving and can only get a single car on a budget. In a lot of ways it feels like a RWD version of my 2005 Cooper S with more power up top. It's just fun. And it was less out the door than that Cooper s was too.
Congratulations, man! It looks great.
Hachi roku. Banjō!
Dude, nice. Nice, dude.
Good!
Nice. :clap:
Congrats. :cheers:
What's the power like? Most people always put the car down because it's "so underpowered with only 200-horsepower"... :facepalm:
Quote from: cawimmer430 on June 27, 2017, 02:13:59 AM
Congrats. :cheers:
What's the power like? Most people always put the car down because it's "so underpowered with only 200-horsepower"... :facepalm:
only 151tq
could dead
It feels decent enough for me. I enjoy the powerband, it's reminiscent of a Honda. It's take until about 4-5k rpm then starts screaming to redline.
People complain that it's slow but it's faster than an RX-8 5-60 and I get 34mpg on the highway
:clap: Congrats man.
I gotta ask, what'd you get it for out the door? I still miss mine a little bit. Mostly just the looks of it. I always thought they're really good looking cars. I loved the interior on mine too.
Quote from: Rich on June 27, 2017, 04:49:59 AM
It feels decent enough for me. I enjoy the powerband, it's reminiscent of a Honda. It's take until about 4-5k rpm then starts screaming to redline.
People complain that it's slow but it's faster than an RX-8 5-60 and I get 34mpg on the highway
Exactly, and I find it hard to call anything with 200-horsepower slow. Have fun with the new ride! :ohyeah:
So, what year is it? Looks pretty nice.
Damn, now I'm really bummed I can' tmake this track day
Quote from: MrH on June 27, 2017, 07:01:08 AM
:clap: Congrats man.
I gotta ask, what'd you get it for out the door? I still miss mine a little bit. Mostly just the looks of it. I always thought they're really good looking cars. I loved the interior on mine too.
24.5k out the door taxes and all
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 27, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
Damn, now I'm really bummed I can' tmake this track day
:rage: :rage: :rage:
I could stop by before or after. I need to check in at 3:30
Modz so far are a cargo net and proclip cell phone mount.
I don't know why you don't like the way it looks. It's a properly good looking car, IMO.
Quote from: Submariner on June 27, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
I don't know why you don't like the way it looks. It's a properly good looking car, IMO.
Agreed.
I really need to drive one of these. I'll have to see if someone will let me take theirs for a fun run at an auto-x sometime. I think if they had been available back when I bought my previous Mustang, I probably would have bought one instead of the Stang. Very much reminded me of my S13 240SX. I liked everything about the RX-8 except for the tiny trunk (and no folding rear seat) and the horrendous fuel economy. These address both gripes. Granted, I did sit in an early model Scion when they first came out and was not impressed with the interior. The Mustang, for the same money, was much nicer in that regard. Newer Frisbees fixed most of my interior gripes.
Quote from: MX793 on June 27, 2017, 02:25:09 PM
Agreed.
I really need to drive one of these. I'll have to see if someone will let me take theirs for a fun run at an auto-x sometime. I think if they had been available back when I bought my previous Mustang, I probably would have bought one instead of the Stang. Very much reminded me of my S13 240SX. I liked everything about the RX-8 except for the tiny trunk (and no folding rear seat) and the horrendous fuel economy. These address both gripes. Granted, I did sit in an early model Scion when they first came out and was not impressed with the interior. The Mustang, for the same money, was much nicer in that regard. Newer Frisbees fixed most of my interior gripes.
I'm going to try and drive up to NY in August ... you're free to drive it then.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 27, 2017, 08:22:29 AM
So, what year is it? Looks pretty nice.
It's a 2017. I don't think there are any more changes coming for 2018 after the 2017 mid cycle refresh
Quote from: Rich on June 27, 2017, 10:43:01 AM
:rage: :rage: :rage:
I could stop by before or after. I need to check in at 3:30
Stop by after
Quote from: Rich on June 27, 2017, 02:31:52 PM
It's a 2017. I don't think there are any more changes coming for 2018 after the 2017 mid cycle refresh
Ahh, didn't realize it was new. Ideal choice for a single guy.
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Beating the snot out of it before the first oil change, eh?
Yuuup.
#beatercar
Beautiful color. These cars are fantastic, hope it gives you years of trouble free track days. When do the new tires come in :rolleyes:
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Windows open?
Quote from: Raza on July 05, 2017, 07:27:24 AM
Windows open?
It's sometimes required by some performance driving orgs for safety reasons. I remember there being some discussion at an auto-x last year between safety stewards about whether windows had to be open. One person insisted they had to be, possibly based on SCCA trackday rules.
So they can pull your dead body out of the car.
I had missed your thread. Weird titles can do that.
I love it. Congrats. Best driver's car to get.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 05, 2017, 08:05:21 AM
So they can pull your dead body out of the car.
Also contains the shattered glass so it does fly all over the driver or track in event of an accident.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 05, 2017, 08:05:21 AM
So they can pull your dead body out of the car.
I would hope unless my car is on fire, nobody pulls me anywhere until EMS arrives
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 05, 2017, 12:40:34 PM
I would hope unless my car is on fire, nobody pulls me anywhere until EMS arrives
Who do you think "they" refers to in this scenario? lol
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 05, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
Who do you think "they" refers to in this scenario? lol
Giant ants?
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 05, 2017, 08:16:59 AM
I had missed your thread. Weird titles can do that.
I love it. Congrats. Best driver's car to get.
Hachi means 8 and roku means 6. Come on man, I spent four months living in Japan and you didn't pick that up?
Quote from: Raza on July 05, 2017, 07:27:24 AM
Windows open?
Point by's. SCCA rules usually dictate they be done to driver's left, but the layout of this track, and track rules dictate point by's to the right.
Quote from: Xer0 on July 01, 2017, 09:08:20 PM
Beautiful color. These cars are fantastic, hope it gives you years of trouble free track days. When do the new tires come in :rolleyes:
these tires stick. Too well, at least until they get greasy... then it's fun :ohyeah:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 05, 2017, 08:16:59 AM
I had missed your thread. Weird titles can do that.
I love it. Congrats. Best driver's car to get.
Thanks. Was looking for something cheap, fun to drive, newish, and reliable. Found a gem... though I still enjoy the Miata for county road drive more.
Quote from: Raza on July 05, 2017, 01:25:06 PM
Hachi means 8 and roku means 6. Come on man, I spent four months living in Japan and you didn't pick that up?
Hochiroku was also the nickname of the old Corolla AE86, which became a bit of a legend in the drift community.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 05, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
Who do you think "they" refers to in this scenario? lol
I was thinking about overly helpful marshals or anybody else that might be there. We were talking about track days, not some official series race or something :huh:
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 05, 2017, 06:20:25 PM
Hochiroku was also the nickname of the old Corolla AE86, which became a bit of a legend in the drift community.
I know. Hachiroku=86 (but not eighty-six, that's different).
Quote from: SVT_Power on July 05, 2017, 06:49:21 PM
I was thinking about overly helpful marshals or anybody else that might be there. We were talking about track days, not some official series race or something :huh:
Admittedly, I've never been to any track day, but I'd think that someone there would be a trained EMT.
Quote from: Raza on July 05, 2017, 07:22:13 PM
I know. Hachiroku=86 (but not eighty-six, that's different).
Does that mean I should call his car the "eight six" not the "eighty-six"?
lol I missed this thread too.
I wish the Subie version had the better suspension, so I can't fault going for the stepchild option. I just wish it came with a sunroof so I could lust after it.
But congrats!!
Quote from: BimmerM3 on July 06, 2017, 09:11:27 AM
Does that mean I should call his car the "eight six" not the "eighty-six"?
Yes. Eighty six is "hachi-jū roku". The basics of Japanese numbers 11-99 is the amount of 10s (jū) and then the extra. Hachi is 8. Jū is 10. Roku is 6. So 86 is eight tens and six. Hachi-jū roku.
(You may also see juu or jū; I've seen both)
10K/6 month update:
I did pretty terrible at a local autocross. I'm interested in getting another set of wheels with the slipperiest all seasons for DD use, and some Potenza RE71Rs on the stock wheels for D Street class SOLO.
The calibration of the throttle is still very annoying. The first 10% of pedal travel gives you 50% throttle, 50% travel is 90% throttle.
No hiccups yet. The LED headlights are a blessing and make the Miata's halogens seem dangerous.
I'd like to get some white racing strips and tint along with the aforementioned wheels. Maybe Gramlights 57C
Looking to do a track day at Roebling Road in GA, VIR, and get on Road Atlanta also (which should have a TNiA next year).
I hated the throttle on my Sienna, same story. Wonder if you can mechanically do something about that?..
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 10, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
I hated the throttle on my Sienna, same story. Wonder if you can mechanically do something about that?..
Drive by wire. If you want to change the throttle calibration, you need to flash the control module.
Quote from: MX793 on November 10, 2017, 05:09:13 PM
Drive by wire. If you want to change the throttle calibration, you need to flash the control module.
There HAS to be a way to put a damper on that but it would likely require too much tinkering. It's really obnoxious. You could never jam the gas on that van, it would spin the tires every time. You had to start off slow and gradually apply more pressure.
I'm pretty sure it's so people shopping would think "WOW THIS THING HAS SO MUCH POWAH!!!!!!!!!" but really really hated it.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 10, 2017, 09:47:47 PM
There HAS to be a way to put a damper on that but it would likely require too much tinkering. It's really obnoxious. You could never jam the gas on that van, it would spin the tires every time. You had to start off slow and gradually apply more pressure.
I'm pretty sure it's so people shopping would think "WOW THIS THING HAS SO MUCH POWAH!!!!!!!!!" but really really hated it.
There's no mechanical fix. And providing the sensation that the car is quicker is why it's done. There's a popular mod called PedalMax, IIRC, that a lot of the Mustang guys get that steepens the throttle curve. Several, who don't understand what the mod does, think it gives the car more power. All it does is reprogram the controller to open the throttle more with less pedal application. Apparently people are too lazy to put the pedal to the floor to get WOT.
I hate most new car throttles. Mine is very progressive and it's great.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 11, 2017, 10:42:28 AM
I hate most new car throttles. Mine is very progressive and it's great.
You have to learn to adjust. I like it when I can just tickle the pedal get a burst of speed. Gotta have the touch if you want to be a race-car driver :ohyeah:.
My last 3 cars have been DWB.... no issues
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 11, 2017, 11:07:13 AM
My last 3 cars have been DWB.... no issues
Some vehicles are poorly calibrated. Most of my cars have been DBW. No complaints other than some delay/hang when lifting (which is more of an emissions control "feature" than poor design).
I don't think Toyota is good at DBW.
My Yaris was notorious for being downright frustrating to drive in 1st. The couple DWB Vibes I had were also weird, too.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 11, 2017, 11:07:13 AM
My last 3 cars have been DWB.... no issues
Quote from: MX793 on November 11, 2017, 11:16:38 AM
Some vehicles are poorly calibrated. Most of my cars have been DBW. No complaints other than some delay/hang when lifting (which is more of an emissions control "feature" than poor design).
Quote from: 2o6 on November 11, 2017, 11:23:36 AM
I don't think Toyota is good at DBW.
My Yaris was notorious for being downright frustrating to drive in 1st. The couple DWB Vibes I had were also weird, too.
So which is it DWB or DBW; and what the hell does it mean? :fogey:
Drive By Wire, the throttle is electronically controlled.
Quote from: mzziaz on November 11, 2017, 11:46:34 AM
Drive By Wire, the throttle is electronically controlled.
Well, I knew that :lol:. Would it be so hard for them to type it out?
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MX-5's DBW mapping is superrrrb.
Quote from: Rich on November 11, 2017, 12:03:46 PM
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Who doesn't enjoy a nice hole in their powerband?
Quote from: r0tor on November 11, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Who doesn't enjoy a nice hole in their powerband?
:lol:
Maybe it smooths out the acceleration when the engine is on cam, because that would just be tooooooo much power.
Quote from: Laconian on November 11, 2017, 06:41:21 PM
:lol:
Maybe it smooths out the acceleration when the engine is on cam, because that would just be tooooooo much power.
It's an engineered time to catch your breath between power surges
The sound with Bluetooth is fantastic. I'd thought the speakers were crap until
I used more Bluetooth audio
Why would an iPhone 6s sound worse with a lightning cable than USB?
It sounds the same both ways in the Miata
The car has TPMS sensors, but the car only uses a dummy light on the dash. I can't read individual temperatures.
I've learned something interesting.
The sensors actually read tire pressure and temperature! I'm going to see what kind of solution I can get so I can see this data in the car. As of right now, it looks like the best bet would be an openflash tablet and to edit a ROM. Which might be good to recalibrate the throttle also. But I'll wait until the car is out of warranty and maybe even after that.
I'd like something like an OBD2 adapter that could read this data to my phone (or in the future, to a new head unit), but this data is hiding within the ECU/CANBUS (I have no idea what this would be called) that I don't think the OBD2 can get to.
I only went down this rabbit hole since I'll be buying some new wheels and tires for daily use, and new tires for stock wheels for AutoX. The TPMS sensors are outrageously expensive, I figured to pay for their additional cost I'm going to need to get some information from them if I'm going to pony up to keep TPMS sensors around.
They make some decent double DIN Android headunits... you could get a BT dongle. Still doesn't solve the issue but would be cool to do :lol:
Quote from: Rich on March 09, 2018, 05:47:17 AM
The car has TPMS sensors, but the car only uses a dummy light on the dash. I can't read individual temperatures.
I've learned something interesting.
The sensors actually read tire pressure and temperature! I'm going to see what kind of solution I can get so I can see this data in the car. As of right now, it looks like the best bet would be an openflash tablet and to edit a ROM. Which might be good to recalibrate the throttle also. But I'll wait until the car is out of warranty and maybe even after that.
I'd like something like an OBD2 adapter that could read this data to my phone (or in the future, to a new head unit), but this data is hiding within the ECU/CANBUS (I have no idea what this would be called) that I don't think the OBD2 can get to.
I only went down this rabbit hole since I'll be buying some new wheels and tires for daily use, and new tires for stock wheels for AutoX. The TPMS sensors are outrageously expensive, I figured to pay for their additional cost I'm going to need to get some information from them if I'm going to pony up to keep TPMS sensors around.
PLX makes several adapters that will BT connect to any phone, but some of the more specialized OBDII data needs proprietary software to interpret. You could also use a program like Hyperterminal to access data from thhe bus directly, but you'll have to figure out which node is the TPMS adapter and what the raw data means
there are Adroid/iPhone apps for OBDII, I can't remember what I got but it wasn't free. (Can't bring phone into work).
I have the automatic app for my iphone... I know Torque is a good app, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't have a PID for the TPMS
Soup is right, a lot of that stuff is proprietary. You'd probably need a Toyota-specific tech tool. (What's the equivalent of a GM Tech II for Toyota?)
Torque Pro can do it; look under settings and "manage extra PIDs." I don't know about regular torque, but there seems to be an add-on in Dash Command (another app) that claims to do it.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 09, 2018, 08:06:32 AM
Torque Pro can do it; look under settings and "manage extra PIDs." I don't know about regular torque, but there seems to be an add-on in Dash Command (another app) that claims to do it.
Hmmm. As far as I can tell on the FRIZZ/BRIZZ forum, no one has this figured out yet.
Also, new wheels and tires will be happening
The stock wheels are getting RE71's strictly for DS class SOLO
What should the new DD wheels be? What tire? Stay stock 17" sizes? Go wider? Go 18"?
Stock size + more aggressive offset + stickier tires. No need to overdo it
Thinking about all seasons since it dipped below freezing many times overnight this past winter. I've heard that driving summer tires in freezing temps is no bueno for the well being of the rubber.
Quote from: Rich on April 03, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
Thinking about all seasons since it dipped below freezing many times overnight this past winter. I've heard that driving summer tires in freezing temps is no bueno for the well being of the rubber.
Depends on the tire. Pirelli says don't drive at temperatures under 40F or else risk cracking the compound. I think Michelin and Continental say 20 or 25 F for their hi-po street tires (PSS type, not the 200TW autocross gumballs and R Comps). They all start getting noticably greasy under 50F until you've driven a bit to get some heat in them.
Quote from: Rich on April 03, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
Thinking about all seasons since it dipped below freezing many times overnight this past winter. I've heard that driving summer tires in freezing temps is no bueno for the well being of the rubber.
RE-71R for autox and BFG Comp 2 A/S for the street is a good mix. The BFGs have plenty of grip in all temperatures for street driving.
Quote from: Rich on April 03, 2018, 02:48:31 AM
Hmmm. As far as I can tell on the FRIZZ/BRIZZ forum, no one has this figured out yet.
Some of the post 2016 Toyotas seem to have the TPMS connected to the BCM bus and not the ECU bus, which would complicate things.
Quote from: Rich on April 03, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
Thinking about all seasons since it dipped below freezing many times overnight this past winter. I've heard that driving summer tires in freezing temps is no bueno for the well being of the rubber.
3 sets of wheels/tires when you are out of the country a ton seems like overkill. Also what is your storage situation... yea I would go with all seasons.
My winter tires are all seasons and I have a separate set of summer tires for, well, the summer. Not sure how the BRZ is in the snow, but the Civic has no issues handling Chicago winters in A/S. FWIW, they are the Pilot Sport A/S.
I made an offer on some used 16x7 +46 SSR wheels on eBay for AutoX. Lesseee what happens.
Will they cover your brakes? Offset is not Sporty approved.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 16, 2018, 12:37:21 PM
Will they cover your brakes? Offset is not Sporty approved.
Offset has to stay within 6mm of stock to stay in the "stock" class with SCCA.
Yeah they will. I don't have big calipers. Stock offset is +48
The plan is to put RE71 Tires on these wheels and when the stock tires wear out from DDing, put some Michelin pilot sport a/s on those.
I'd love to get some 17x9 concave wheels but cost, weight, tramlining, noise, and gas mileage factored into bailing on that
Get 245 width Prius tires.
I think the stock wheels are 7". I don't think a 245 will readily fit. I think 235 is about as wide as the wheel will accommodate.
If only there was someone on the forum who had a BRZ and ran 17x9 with 245s... :hmm: :lol:
Quote from: MrH on April 16, 2018, 05:16:24 PM
If only there was someone on the forum who had a BRZ and ran 17x9 with 245s... :hmm: :lol:
That never saw a day on a track or autocross in 2 years
Quote from: Rich on April 16, 2018, 09:50:01 PM
That never saw a day on a track or autocross in 2 years
He didn't want to make everyone else look bad.
2fast4u
Dropped the hammer on 16x7 +46 TE37s in white. 11.5lbs vs 21lbs for the stock wheels. They will be getting RE71s for AutoX. About the time the RE71s wear out, the stock tires should be toast from DDing. The TE37s will then go for DD duty (wheel weights make a lick of difference on track, but should be much more noticeable on street). I don't think I'll like the white so I might get them powdercoated then too.
Quote from: Rich on April 18, 2018, 12:28:34 AM
Dropped the hammer on 16x7 +46 TE37s in white. 11.5lbs vs 21lbs for the stock wheels. They will be getting RE71s for AutoX. About the time the RE71s wear out, the stock tires should be toast from DDing. The TE37s will then go for DD duty (wheel weights make a lick of difference on track, but should be much more noticeable on street). I don't think I'll like the white so I might get them powdercoated then too.
:rockon:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xphe1boIB8sariZ2
I'm tempted to get one of these
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And a ducktail spoiler
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I've toyed with the idea of rear louvers on the Mustang. 1970s retro chic. I think they'd actually annoy me, though, in the same way that I don't like seeing a wing in my view when I look through the rearview.
Also, an added PITA to have to take them off every time you want to clean your rear window.
Quote from: MX793 on April 28, 2018, 07:25:49 AM
I've toyed with the idea of rear louvers on the Mustang. 1970s retro chic. I think they'd actually annoy me, though, in the same way that I don't like seeing a wing in my view when I look through the rearview.
I kind of like the look, and I've heard it's much cooler inside the car. Which is great for the SC heat.
If I don't get this I'll get tint... and I don't like the way tint looks on top of the defroster lines and the window border fade in.
Quote from: MX793 on April 28, 2018, 07:25:49 AM
Also, an added PITA to have to take them off every time you want to clean your rear window.
Hmmm. I wonder how dirty it would get. Seems like it would get less dirty than a plain surface.
Quote from: Rich on April 28, 2018, 07:36:30 AM
Hmmm. I wonder how dirty it would get. Seems like it would get less dirty than a plain surface.
Depends on how much pollen and dust is in the air where you are. I'm sure you recall how bad the springtime tree pollen is up here. Morning dew will tend to make it cling to the glass and not come off without spraying it with a hose or wiping it down.
Spraying it off should be enough for dirt and pollen down there. The dirt is 'sandy' anyway.
I can totally believe it would cool the car off! that's a biiiig rear window.
I had a shop tint my Legacy and the rear looked fine, they got it nice on the defroster lines so you didn't even see any air gap.
Some real hotrod parts are needed along with the louvers and ducktail. Otherwise it's just rice!
Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 28, 2018, 11:57:38 AM
Some real hotrod parts are needed along with the louvers and ducktail. Otherwise it's just rice!
Then I'm out of DS, I get worse gas mileage, and it gets louder
This is my commuter/rainy day car too
Quote from: Rich on April 29, 2018, 07:46:04 AM
This is my commuter/rainy day car too
:lol: Your "non-fun" car is sweet!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rCDBybv8zGrxPoEy8
Gridlife south over the weekend. Track is not enjoyable , really easy to wad the car up.
Road Atlanta? What was the scary part... the esses? I'd be weary of the end of that back straight too. Not for me but for other people not knowing their braking points.
The blind apexes and track outs of turns 2-3 and 11-12
The esses were a blast as were the corners at the turns at the end of the back straight. 10a/b also
I might sell it later this year and buy a 2006-2009 Mustang.
Quote from: Rich on January 14, 2019, 08:15:20 AM
I might sell it later this year and buy a 2006-2009 Mustang.
Get a Corvette - it's the next logical step. Combine the best of the Mustang and BR-Z.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 14, 2019, 08:21:33 AM
Get a Corvette - it's the next logical step. Combine the best of the Mustang and BR-Z.
I want a mustang. I still have a Miata.
Sell BRZZZ & Miata. Buy new Miata.
Sell BRZ & Miata and take out a 401k loan to buy a Supra.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2019, 10:49:38 AM
Sell BRZZZ & Miata. Buy new Miata.
I'd have to pony up another $7k to do that
Waiting on used ND2s about the time I retire. My NB should have about 220k on the clock by then and I'll have an older mustang to do whatever with then as well. The $$ from selling the 86 can go make some interest in the meantime.
Any reason why you want to go back to a Mustang? I remember driving yours and thinking it was fast, but nothing else was memorable about the driving experience.
I liked the sound and the looks.
I'd have been better served by getting a slightly older mustang. That platform was just not meant for stiff sprigs and low profile tires. (I got the performance pack, shouldn't have)
Quote from: Rich on January 14, 2019, 11:05:52 AM
I liked the sound and the looks.
I'd have been better served by getting a slightly older mustang. That platform was just not meant for stiff sprigs and low profile tires. (I got the performance pack, shouldn't have)
If you don't want the 5.0 for whatever reason (even if you don't care about the power, it gets better fuel economy than the old 4.6), I'd be looking for a 2010 (sans PP if you don't want the stiffer suspension) instead of the '05-'09. That way you get the way better interior and a revised chassis tuning, and IMO the best looking of the S197 body styles. I very seriously considered a leftover '09 GT at one point but could not get past the interior (it was a base model, and it was awful). 2010 was such a huge improvement in interior.
A mustang could make a decent cheap cruiser. Then switch to Miata for twisty fun.
Quote from: Rich on January 14, 2019, 08:15:20 AM
I might sell it later this year and buy a 2006-2009 Mustang.
Man there was a full Griggs Racing 2006 GT for sale not long ago for like $8000. I mean it literally had almost their entire catalog.
An SNxxx Cobra with the IRS and re-engineered front suspension sounds like a good cheap time. Not sure about long trips in one though. And did they still have 5 speeds?
What about a G37?
How about an e90 335i... Sort of a blend of brz handling and mustang power
Quote from: r0tor on January 25, 2019, 07:10:14 AM
How about an e90 335i... Sort of a blend of brz handling and mustang power
Or a Mustang with
coilovers cut springs.
Those cars are boring. The IRS cobra gen Mustang was ugly.
I find the late 00's Mustang beautiful. The way that fastback roofline flows into the trunk. The sound it makes. I need to drive one. I've only ever driven one new. We'll see how an older one does. I also may not do it due to losing the LED headlights. They are wonderful.
Maybe you just need a Triumph TR8. It's as fast as a worn out Miata, sounds like a Mustang, handles like a lowered pickup truck, looks like a space ship, and will give you plenty of quality under-the-hood time. Not boring.
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I can feel the grip from here
Randy pobst is at this autocross
:drool:
Hot diggity frog.
Quote from: Rich on February 03, 2019, 07:12:27 AM
Randy pobst is at this autocross
What was he driving? I'd be hilarious if he showed up in a bone stock Civic hatch and proceeded to roast people in absolute times without the handicap.
Quote from: Xer0 on February 04, 2019, 08:17:14 AM
What was he driving? I'd be hilarious if he showed up in a bone stock Civic hatch and proceeded to roast people in absolute times without the handicap.
I roasted some shit in a nearly bone stock Civic hatch with simply all-season high performance tires and the reflexes of someone who left for the event straight after a 12 hour night shift. If Randy had a Civic, it would probably just teleport to the finish line. Civic are magical go karts.
Quote from: Xer0 on February 04, 2019, 08:17:14 AM
What was he driving? I'd be hilarious if he showed up in a bone stock Civic hatch and proceeded to roast people in absolute times without the handicap.
A BSP 997 911
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Catching a slide
You need to work on keeping your white letters synchronized between the front and rear tires. I hate seeing them off like that.
Raised white lettering :rockon:
Thought I'd be the only fan of it in these parts. I like it more than I thought I would have too
I'm torn on white letters on skinny sidewalls
I think BFG is putting colored letters on the new Rivals though