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Title: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: Payman on July 14, 2017, 11:08:05 AM
"Chrome Unibrow"

(https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/CycreT15otXe7SWC-Er3F-7ZlwM=/2017/07/14/bd497042-2489-4ed8-afb6-bd6a843298f4/2018-honda-accord-1.jpg)

:confused: :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: Payman on July 14, 2017, 11:09:14 AM
Also, the coupe is dead. But whatever.
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Post by: 2o6 on July 14, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
I actually really like it. A lot.
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Post by: 2o6 on July 14, 2017, 11:22:46 AM
(http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2018-honda-accord-sdn_100614088_l.jpg?quality=82&strip=all)
(http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2018-honda-accord-sdn_100614079_l.jpg?quality=82&strip=all)
(http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2018-honda-accord-sdn_100614081_l.jpg)

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1111536_smart-money-is-still-in-sedans-2018-honda-accord-revealed#image=100614094
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Post by: 68_427 on July 14, 2017, 12:01:48 PM
But will there be a sports model with a differently tuned 2.0T, fancy dif, and nice suspenders?
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Post by: MexicoCityM3 on July 14, 2017, 12:18:53 PM
That front seems Audiesque.
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Post by: Raza on July 14, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
What makes Honda incapable of making a good looking car?
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Post by: MX793 on July 14, 2017, 12:48:03 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 14, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
What makes Honda incapable of making a good looking car?

They must have pulled in the Acura styling team.
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Post by: Raza on July 14, 2017, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: MX793 on July 14, 2017, 12:48:03 PM
They must have pulled in the Acura styling team.

:lol:
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: Xer0 on July 14, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
I don't like the way this car turned out.  It very obviously looks like a Civic, but toned down to the point of being ugly AND unexciting.  The rim choice and color don't do it any favors either.  The availability of a manual in the Sport trim with either engine is exciting, but the engines are very "me too" and don't set it apart at all.  I can only hope that Honda purposely did this to make room at the top end of the lineup for a true high performance Accord.  The Camry, seemingly out of nowhere, is the more exciting new reveal.
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Post by: Rich on July 14, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
Interesting. Seems button shifters are the new way of business
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Post by: cawimmer430 on July 14, 2017, 02:36:09 PM
The interior looks very BMWesque.

The exterior.... holy sh*t... the front doesn't bother me that much, but the rear design is just... wacky...
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Post by: shp4man on July 14, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
It's really not that bad looking. The latest Japanese styling thing seems to be those wacky large "z" shaped tailights. The ones on the new Prius are impressively weird.  :lol:
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Post by: Payman on July 14, 2017, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Rich on July 14, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
Interesting. Seems button shifters are the new way of business

There's more Star Trek actors out there.
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: GoCougs on July 14, 2017, 05:31:58 PM
Definitely a regression - frumpy styling, no V6, and NO GODDAMNED SHIFTER. Front actually looks okay to me and I do like the wheels.
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Post by: 68_427 on July 14, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: GoCougs on July 14, 2017, 05:31:58 PM
Definitely a regression - frumpy styling, no V6, and NO GODDAMNED SHIFTER. Front actually looks okay to me and I do like the wheels.

While no V6 isn't ideal at least the 2.0T can be had with a manual on the Sport model.
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Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 14, 2017, 08:33:34 PM
Yea the more I see it the less I like it
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Post by: TBR on July 15, 2017, 04:03:35 AM
I like it a great deal actually. Better than the facelifted car it replaces, not better than the original of that generation. Exterior that is. Interior is the best since the frump butt generation.
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Post by: GoCougs on July 15, 2017, 06:21:53 AM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 14, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
While no V6 isn't ideal at least the 2.0T can be had with a manual on the Sport model.

But at only ~250 (turbo) hp which IMO doesn't do as hugely well w/MT IMO. Nice effort I guess though.

I will say the liftback approach is the way to go for mainstreamers.
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Post by: MX793 on July 15, 2017, 07:02:55 AM
Quote from: GoCougs on July 15, 2017, 06:21:53 AM
But at only ~250 (turbo) hp which IMO doesn't do as hugely well w/MT IMO. Nice effort I guess though.

I will say the liftback approach is the way to go for mainstreamers.

Pretty sure this still has a traditional trunk rather than jumping on the liftback bandwagon.
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Post by: cawimmer430 on July 15, 2017, 07:14:28 AM
The last really good-looking Honda Accord was...


(https://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/h/honda/accord_sir_coupe/honda_accord_sir_coupe.jpg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/h/honda/accord_sedan/honda_accord_sedan_174_1.jpg)

(https://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/h/honda/accord/honda_accord_57_1.jpg)
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Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 15, 2017, 07:20:35 AM
The TSX was better

(http://site.icbmotorsport.com/Mugen/JDM_Mugen_CL7_Accord_Euro_R_04_05_Mugen_Parts.jpg)
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Post by: ifcar on July 15, 2017, 07:23:38 AM
The wheels look awful and the front is a little awkward in pictures, but it looks nice overall, especially the interior. It reminds me of the last Euro Accord / Acura TSX.
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Post by: cawimmer430 on July 15, 2017, 07:36:28 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 15, 2017, 07:20:35 AM
The TSX was better

Never liked those. Too shrunken for my tastes.
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: 68_427 on July 15, 2017, 07:42:14 AM
I saw someone post this somewhere else

QuoteThe new Civic is designed as a Dongfeng Honda so it follows the established Dongfeng Honda design language. See Dongfeng Spirior for reference. So Civic + Spirior follows the fastback look.

(http://car3.autoimg.cn/cardfs/product/g18/M0F/CD/52/1024x0_1_q87_autohomecar__wKgH2VhbpsGAdpobAAhN2mOg76A783.jpg)
(http://car3.autoimg.cn/cardfs/product/g5/M02/CE/85/1024x0_1_q87_autohomecar__wKgH21hXfPKABuIOAAo33INV2v8032.jpg)


The existing Accord is a GAIC Honda model so it follows the established GAIC Honda design language. See the GAIC Crider for reference. So Crider + Accord follows the notchback look.

(http://car3.autoimg.cn/cardfs/product/g22/M0F/E5/E0/1024x0_1_q87_autohomecar__wKgFW1bqvIuAVsPdAAbdPjlthCs317.jpg)
(http://car3.autoimg.cn/cardfs/product/g16/M06/F0/11/1024x0_1_q87_autohomecar__wKgH11laDcWANUStAAjoYdjh3LU868.jpg)

So what to make of the new Accord? Well, it looks to me that it is really the replacement for Dongfeng Spirior not GAIC Accord....

We'll know for sure in a few month when Honda reveals the other version of this new Accord - My guess is there will be a notchback version of to replace the GAIC Accord.


While I don't think there will be another version of the new Accord it shows the importance of the Chinese market.  Also the new push button shifter has made two COMPLETELY different center consoles a necessity. 

(http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/2018-Honda-Accord-Touring-cabin-03.jpg)
(http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2017/07/2018-Honda-Accord-Sport-center-console.jpg)

At least it appears Honda lowered the cup holders in the manual version to try to limit how badly our big gulps get in the way.
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Post by: 2o6 on July 15, 2017, 09:58:10 AM
I don't think that's entirely accurate. The Crider and GAC Accord are old cars. They prolly will get updated bodyshells when their model cycles end - with the Sprior prolly adopting a different front and rear fascia, maybe different door skins. This is the same thing with the HR-V/Vezel (GAC Honda) and the restlyed version - XR-V (Dongfeng Honda)


Like, the Crider is a long City (fit sedan).
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Post by: r0tor on July 15, 2017, 09:00:44 PM
The styling is not slimming at all
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Post by: Speed_Racer on July 15, 2017, 10:31:21 PM
I like it, especially in white. But with how big the new Civic is, I'm guessing this will be real big
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Post by: MX793 on July 16, 2017, 06:44:00 AM
Quote from: Speed_Racer on July 15, 2017, 10:31:21 PM
I like it, especially in white. But with how big the new Civic is, I'm guessing this will be real big

Looks like it didn't grow much.  Wheelbase is up, but overall length is unchanged.  It's roughly half an inch wider and half an inch lower.
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Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 16, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Rich on July 14, 2017, 02:20:30 PM
Interesting. Seems button shifters are the new way of business

They could save SOOO much console room by putting them differently though. :confused:
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Post by: CaminoRacer on July 16, 2017, 12:49:22 PM
I'm a big fan of the current Sport models. This ruins it. No thx.
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Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 16, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 16, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
They could save SOOO much console room by putting them differently though. :confused:
Yea, takes up the same room. I feel like the rotary knob could work, IF they don't put identical knobs for other functions right next to it.
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Post by: Atomic on July 17, 2017, 07:59:34 AM
At a regional Honda dealership now now and just saw an impressive video of official live unveiling of three separate MY18 models; each with distinctive front facias and finally far easier to tell the various offerings apart. The Sport was by far my favorite and worthy of the title. I had guessed incorrectly that it was the next generation Hybrid Accord merely based on it differed from the others. The Hybrid, will reach dealerships when the petroleum variations do; therefore, no wait. Stills look so-so. They car 🚗 flows when in motion. The S2000 replacement is one of a couple of sporty coupes closer to reality (Automotive News) and with the Civic / Civic Si rage of two doors should do fine with cars 🚘 losing ground to crossover/SUV types. The rumored non convertible / roadster coupe supposedly larger the Civic IF produced will feature AWD; along with a Subaru Outback like wagon 🚙 bearing in part the Accord moniker; and to keep progressive in an ever changing competition marketplace, I hear talk of at least Civic Hatchbacks coming with AWD (standard, as an option or depending on trim level, I dunno — much is planned for Honda-Accura and we know how tight lipped corporate Honda tends to keep things; though, they cannot rest on laurels with the top selling car retain wise)... Mid August, to be fitted with bilateral splits that should lend to improve to dexterity for fine motor tasks, most notably writing, typing and texting. This extra was the most important issue quality of life wise missing all of the automobile banter of the many past years. Yours texts, calls and emails 👊🏼👊🏼. The specialist urged since long past college theses and if not developing reports for work, avoiding the proof reading that kept me from posting anything whatsoever. Thank you for your ongoing support.
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: Payman on July 18, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
S2000 replacement? I want to get excited, but they'll end up making it sinfully ugly, probably flappy-paddle only, and hybrid.
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Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 18, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
There have been rumors of the S2000's return for nearly 15 years. Don't wanna get NSX'd again
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Post by: MX793 on July 18, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 18, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
There have been rumors of the S2000's return for nearly 15 years. Don't wanna get NSX'd again

Nearly 15 years?  They were still making them 8 years ago.
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Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 18, 2017, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: MX793 on July 18, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
Nearly 15 years?  They were still making them 8 years ago.
:facepalm:
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Post by: CaminoRacer on July 18, 2017, 04:13:30 PM
Quote from: Rockraven on July 18, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
S2000 replacement? I want to get excited, but they'll end up making it sinfully ugly, probably flappy-paddle only, and hybrid.

Plus a chrome unibrow!
Title: Re: 2018 Honda Accord introduces a new term to the vehicular lexicon...
Post by: Raza on July 19, 2017, 05:48:56 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on July 18, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
S2000 replacement? I want to get excited, but they'll end up making it sinfully ugly, probably flappy-paddle only, and hybrid.

I'm pretty sure this is the S2000 replacement.