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Title: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 04, 2017, 07:18:24 AM
Saw this today!  :praise:

(https://s2.postimg.org/8ol2tbec9/Chrysler_Le_Baron_Town_Country_1.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/8fni3e1jt/Chrysler_Le_Baron_Town_Country_2.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/fuctvrnfd/Chrysler_Le_Baron_Town_Country_3.jpg)

(https://s2.postimg.org/jpg7yc6l5/Chrysler_Le_Baron_Town_Country_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 04, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
LOL.

I love it.

In all honesty, my current car is the second choice; the first would have been a Roadmaster wagon.

Those little Chryslers are cool though. Actually, they're so damned lame they come around and meet cool from the wrong side. It's been years since I've seen one in the condition though.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 04, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
LOL.

I love it.

In all honesty, my current car is the second choice; the first would have been a Roadmaster wagon.

Those little Chryslers are cool though. Actually, they're so damned lame they come around and meet cool from the wrong side. It's been years since I've seen one in the condition though.

I think the basic shape is pleasing, but that wood is like a touch of "extra acne" on the pretty face of a teenage girl.  :tounge:
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: FoMoJo on August 05, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
The faux wood gives it a character of sorts.  Without it, it would just be another humdrum wagon.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 09:11:58 AM
It seems these wagons ONLY came with faux wood. Couldn't find any press photos showing them without.

The beefier wheels on the model below look better.

(https://s1.postimg.org/4bkkx4vlb/Untitled-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: FoMoJo on August 05, 2017, 09:26:28 AM
I recall seeing plenty of these old slabs of metal...

(https://s1.postimg.org/fqqlh4gbj/chevy_wagon.jpg)
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Galaxy on August 05, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Did any of those american land yachts come with real wood?
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 05, 2017, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on August 05, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Did any of those american land yachts come with real wood?

Very early on, wagons weren't made at the factory. They were converted, often by actual carriage makers, and the bodies were actually wood. The term "depot hack" ( a hack being a cab driver) was synonymous with "station wagon" until the late '40s. 

By 1960, they were all factory made and none of them were wood. Some used wood trim pieces, but the bodies underneath were all metal.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 05, 2017, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 09:11:58 AM
It seems these wagons ONLY came with faux wood. Couldn't find any press photos showing them without.

The beefier wheels on the model below look better.

(https://s1.postimg.org/4bkkx4vlb/Untitled-1.jpg)

By the '80s, about the only way to get a naked wagon was to order one; and most of the survivors now were coroner's cars.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: FoMoJo on August 05, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on August 05, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
Did any of those american land yachts come with real wood?
Probably the last (real) woody wagon: 53 Buick

(https://s2.postimg.org/ldxc06mfd/53_buick_woody.png)

An iconic (real) woody wagon: 46 Ford

(https://s1.postimg.org/83z9gx5kv/46_ford_woody.jpg%5Bimg%5D)[/img]
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: shp4man on August 05, 2017, 03:32:50 PM
Real woodies of any variety are worth big bucks these days.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
I'm curious, why was real wood used on the exterior of these cars? Was it because of steel/metal rationing during World War II / Korean War?
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: shp4man on August 05, 2017, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
I'm curious, why was real wood used on the exterior of these cars? Was it because of steel/metal rationing during World War II / Korean War?

Actually, I think it was tradition that kept them going past the '40's. That, and they were nice looking cars, and people still wanted them.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 05, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2017, 03:48:56 PM
I'm curious, why was real wood used on the exterior of these cars? Was it because of steel/metal rationing during World War II / Korean War?

No, it was because they were converted from regular sedans by small makers skilled in wooden coach making, rather than metal. Even when the factory wagons came along, people were now used to seeing them in wood.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: giant_mtb on August 05, 2017, 05:03:50 PM
(https://images.craigslist.org/00l0l_baJnXETFSjj_600x450.jpg)

https://up.craigslist.org/cto/d/wood-oak-car-and-trailer/6227213619.html
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: shp4man on August 05, 2017, 05:38:46 PM
"Station wagons" were traditionally partially wood bodied vehicles, therefore:
(https://dennishouse1.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ford-1955-country-squire-wagon-ad.jpg?w=639)

The "wood" was a respect for tradition.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Galaxy on August 06, 2017, 05:29:13 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on August 05, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
Probably the last (real) woody wagon: 53 Buick

(https://s2.postimg.org/ldxc06mfd/53_buick_woody.png)

An iconic (real) woody wagon: 46 Ford

(https://s1.postimg.org/83z9gx5kv/46_ford_woody.jpg%5Bimg%5D)[/img]

And that immediately looks better. Wood
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 06, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
Ah, interesting.  :ohyeah:

Was the wood treated so that it would last? Or did they expect owners to get rid of the car when the wood began to foul?
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: Soup DeVille on August 06, 2017, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 06, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
Ah, interesting.  :ohyeah:

Was the wood treated so that it would last? Or did they expect owners to get rid of the car when the wood began to foul?

Don't know, but I think it was finished in much the same manner as wood for boats was; it was shellacked or varnished regularly, or it soon went bad and rotted away.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 07, 2017, 05:38:18 AM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on August 06, 2017, 08:19:53 PM
Don't know, but I think it was finished in much the same manner as wood for boats was; it was shellacked or varnished regularly, or it soon went bad and rotted away.

Would make sense to give it some varnish. I suppose that also helps it shine and look fresh!
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: veeman on August 09, 2017, 10:19:10 PM
I think there was some thought on putting real wood on the exterior of Lincoln Blackwoods but it was too expensive.
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: SVT_Power on August 10, 2017, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: veeman on August 09, 2017, 10:19:10 PM
I think there was some thought on putting real wood on the exterior of Lincoln Blackwoods but it was too expensive.

Had to google to remind myself what those things looked like  :lol:
Title: Re: Soupe DeVille's (2nd) Dream
Post by: RomanChariot on August 11, 2017, 10:04:35 AM
Quote from: SVT_Power on August 10, 2017, 09:29:33 AM
Had to google to remind myself what those things looked like  :lol:

I just saw one of those on the road a couple of days ago.