(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SI2AXCUq--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/bnigbbm819gas2ablzoo.png)
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SbsJrOPW--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/vr4yptxmiadwg6lj5kt9.png)
https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-volkswagen-jetta-gets-bigger-and-hopefully-bet-1822072473
Rides on the MQB chassis, comes with the 1.4T and 6MT/8AT.
Why does it look so awkward?
It reminds me of a cheap car trying to look expensive. Something about it is off.
No word on a GLI yet?
Quote from: Xer0 on January 15, 2018, 08:41:30 AM
It reminds me of a cheap car trying to look expensive. Something about it is off.
No word on a GLI yet?
Nothing yet.
I think it's the ride height that's off putting
The grill looks like it was forced to fit into that shape. It wants to be rounder and sleeker, but something in the way has it looking like it's on the front of a truck.
Stance is wrong. Rather than looking like it's going fast standing still, it looks like someone slammed on the brakes.
Those hood creases remind me of a Chrysler I can't think of at the moment.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 15, 2018, 08:38:02 AM
Why does it look so awkward?
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 15, 2018, 08:48:26 AM
Those hood creases remind me of a Chrysler I can't think of at the moment.
Yeah, awkward and weird hood lines were the first two things that came to mind when I saw those pictures. Not a good looking car IMHO.
Not a fan of the styling. Maybe Camry buyers who find the new model too sporty for them will like this.
It has the proportions of a Ford Taurus. Very tall with too-small wheels.
This is what happens when you build sedans on platforms designed to underpin CUVs and tall wagons.
Quote from: MX793 on January 15, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
It has the proportions of a Ford Taurus. Very tall with too-small wheels.
This is what happens when you build sedans on platforms designed to underpin CUVs and tall wagons.
The Golf, Polo, Lamando, and other cars also are on MQB and they manage to look pretty good.
MQB, but they slapped a torsion beam rear suspension on it. I like the interior though... has an Audi R8 vibe to it.
Quote from: Rockraven on January 15, 2018, 09:30:28 AM
MQB, but they slapped a torsion beam rear suspension on it. I like the interior though... has an Audi R8 vibe to it.
To be fair, the basic variants of MQB (all B-seg cars) have torsion beams. Also, the TDI Golf has a torsion beam (AdBlue tank is in the way)
I don't think the torsion beam is a big deal, tbh.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 15, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
The grill looks like it was forced to fit into that shape. It wants to be rounder and sleeker, but something in the way has it looking like it's on the front of a truck.
Those acres of unpainted plastic just look horrid.
Quote from: MX793 on January 15, 2018, 09:03:55 AM
This is what happens when you build sedans on platforms designed to underpin CUVs and tall wagons.
In general I would agree with that, however this is something that the MQB plattform actually does well.
(https://www.audi.de/etc/carline_sideview/50000_de/live/a3limo.size.h236.png)
Further proof that the US is becoming a third world country. Looks like a 2006 Ford Focus.
Quote from: r0tor on January 15, 2018, 09:00:03 AM
Maybe Camry buyers who find the new model too sporty for them will like this.
:golfclap:
Eww
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 15, 2018, 08:48:26 AM
Those hood creases remind me of a Chrysler I can't think of at the moment.
Sebring IIRC...... It was ugly too.
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on January 15, 2018, 04:08:45 PM
Sebring IIRC...... It was ugly too.
Yes! That's the one.
(https://preview2.netcarshow.com/Chrysler-Sebring-2007-hd.jpg)
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 15, 2018, 08:48:26 AM
Those hood creases remind me of a Chrysler I can't think of at the moment.
Sebring
(https://www.allpar.com/reviews/photos/chrysler/sebring/chrysler.jpg)
You could almost put a Chrysler badge on this thing and call it the new Sebring. lol
This car screams "I'm done trying at life".
Quote from: Rockraven on January 15, 2018, 04:32:02 PM
This car screams "I'm done trying at life".
I think this is Volkswagen's revenge for the US forcing them to seriously make crossovers.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 15, 2018, 06:29:22 PM
I think this is Volkswagen's revenge for the US forcing them to seriously make crossovers.
And uncovering Dieselgate.
O yea, that :lol:
I don't know guys
The Skoda Octavia is the same length as the old Jetta
Is mechanically simpler than the Golf (prolly of the same sophistication of this US Jetta)
Also uses MQB
and manages to not look like ass
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DJNUfJ1DYAI/VOrtrZXcmHI/AAAAAAAAdhc/gyjZvKMBXVI/s1600/Skoda-Edition-models-0.jpg)
This thing looks like a Chinese knockoff of a Hyundai and a Chevy Cruze. Mostly inoffensive, but there's something about it that I just can't quite put my finger on that says "cheap".
Based on what I'm reading from the gallery, it will sell well then?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 15, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
The grill looks like it was forced to fit into that shape. It wants to be rounder and sleeker, but something in the way has it looking like it's on the front of a truck.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SI2AXCUq--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/bnigbbm819gas2ablzoo.png)
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/amv-prod-cad-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/images/18q1/699329/2019-ram-1500-revealed-detailed-news-car-and-driver-photo-700140-s-original.jpg?crop=1xw:1xh;center,center&resize=900:*)
Yup!
Terrible
Quote from: WookieOnRitalin on January 16, 2018, 11:56:02 AM
Based on what I'm reading from the gallery, it will sell well then?
No, IIRC this is the top selling compact car here:
(https://cms.kelleybluebookimages.com/content/dam/kbb-editorial/make/honda/civic/2017/hatchback/compact-hatch-comparo/02-2017-honda-civic-hatch-comparo.jpg)
Quote from: 93JC on January 16, 2018, 11:24:49 AM
This thing looks like a Chinese knockoff of a Hyundai and a Chevy Cruze. Mostly inoffensive, but there's something about it that I just can't quite put my finger on that says "cheap".
It's the whole rear half of the car. The spindly little wheels+tires combined with the acreage of flat sheetmetal enabled by the tiny wheel wells. Classic developing world car design. VW's austere design works OK when the base proportions are right.... but with this shit it needs some flame surfacing and the like to break it up
He didn't ask if it will be the top seller, but the Jetta has been VW's best seller for years in the US, and that probably won't change.
Awful. Tall tippy, it looks like someone tried to make an SUV into a car. Horrible grille, a wheel gap you could drive an older Jetta through. Two generations ago, this car was so good. Shame how all cars suck now.
That's seriously ugly. Too bad since it's built here and I wish it sells well.
Based on my experience with the Beetle which had that same mesh front grill/bumper treatment, small low speed impacts (like with a rubber orange pylon or racoon type animal) will cause it to crack. Once it's cracked since it's mostly cheap plastic and covers the entire grill or bumper, your only repair option is to replace the entire grill/bumper. That mesh was very very flimsy.
Quote from: Rockraven on January 17, 2018, 07:02:59 AM
He didn't ask if it will be the top seller, but the Jetta has been VW's best seller for years in the US, and that probably won't change.
I know that's not what he said. My point was just that simple looks don't necessarily equate to better sales. And third world looks DEFINITELY don't.
Sad thing is good design is damn near free. Take Golf, add trunk, decontent as necessary to hit price point. Done and done. That has been the recipe forever. As my mom always said whenever I did something stupid, "WHAT IS THIS?"
Quote from: 2o6 on January 16, 2018, 08:54:39 AM
I don't know guys
The Skoda Octavia is the same length as the old Jetta
Is mechanically simpler than the Golf (prolly of the same sophistication of this US Jetta)
Also uses MQB
and manages to not look like ass
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DJNUfJ1DYAI/VOrtrZXcmHI/AAAAAAAAdhc/gyjZvKMBXVI/s1600/Skoda-Edition-models-0.jpg)
That looks so much better.
Quote from: Raza on January 19, 2018, 06:40:51 AM
That looks so much better.
Oh yes, very upscale, almost Phaeton looking.
God I hate the Civic. I want to kill every one I see with a flamethrower.
Quote from: Rockraven on January 19, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
God I hate the Civic. I want to kill every one I see with a flamethrower.
I don't like that the same treatment is going into all their other vehicles too. I'm ok if they want b0yraicer for the Civic. But the whole lineup?
Quote from: Rockraven on January 19, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
God I hate the Civic. I want to kill every one I see with a flamethrower.
The car itself seems awesome. The 1.5T is an absolute winner. Too bad about all the plastic on the exterior.
We were waiting for this one eagerly.
Agree overall it looks a little awkward, but does look pretty good in some pictures:
(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2018/01/new_jetta_rear.jpg?itok=K-U_L2RQ)
Rear is very tidy, proportions are off (mainly because of the wheel gap), the wheels themselves are hideous, and the front is too abrupt. Interior is very nice though, and the feature set is much improved. I wish they were going to have something better than the 1.4T, but, regardless, 90% chance we are buying one of these in June / July. SEL or SEL Premium, likely with accessory wheels. Eric likes the blue color in the press pictures, but I think that adds to some of the aesthetic problems. Regardless, it will be his car, and he has a deep emotional attachment to Jettas that I can't explain (or understand). So a Jetta we are getting.
Quote from: TBR on January 22, 2018, 01:44:58 PM
We were waiting for this one eagerly.
Agree overall it looks a little awkward, but does look pretty good in some pictures:
(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2018/01/new_jetta_rear.jpg?itok=K-U_L2RQ)
Rear is very tidy, proportions are off (mainly because of the wheel gap), the wheels themselves are hideous, and the front is too abrupt. Interior is very nice though, and the feature set is much improved. I wish they were going to have something better than the 1.4T, but, regardless, 90% chance we are buying one of these in June / July. SEL or SEL Premium, likely with accessory wheels. Eric likes the blue color in the press pictures, but I think that adds to some of the aesthetic problems. Regardless, it will be his car, and he has a deep emotional attachment to Jettas that I can't explain (or understand). So a Jetta we are getting.
I think there's a trope that all gay men drive Jettas. Nearly all of my gay friends have a Jetta, or have owned a Jetta at one point.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 23, 2018, 01:28:52 PM
I think there's a trope that all gay men drive Jettas. Nearly all of my gay friends have a Jetta, or have owned a Jetta at one point.
Hmm. I vaguely though about getting a Jetta a few months ago. :hmm:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on January 23, 2018, 01:41:24 PM
Hmm. I vaguely though about getting a Jetta a few months ago. :hmm:
MEATspin.
After seeing more pictures, it doesn't look as bad. Still very boring though, and close enough to the A3 from the back that I'd be angry as an Audi dealer/designer.
Feature wise it sounds pretty slick... they are going to offer the virtual cockpit in higher trims. Early reviews indicate the rear beam suspension does not hamper driving dynamics too much and it handles nicely. Still not crazy about that 1.4L though
OK, VW Brazil has a MQB car that looks very similar to the US Jetta, called the Virtus; basically it's the B-segment Polo, but with a sedan body. Even though it's smaller than the Jetta, it's proportions and detailing are so much better than the US Jetta. And the Virtus isn't really that small; it's a little bit longer and wider than the Sonic sedan, and probably closer in size to a Cruze.
(http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/VW-Virtus-is-the-Polo-sedan-Europe-won't-get-1-1024x576.jpg)
(https://i.ndtvimg.com/i/2017-11/volkswagen-virtus-sedan_827x510_41511010619.jpg)
(https://www.bommaritomazdastpeters.com/assets/stock/ColorMatched_01/White/640/cc_2010FRD014b_01_640/cc_2010FRD014b_01_640_UX.jpg)
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 02, 2018, 09:05:36 AM
(https://www.bommaritomazdastpeters.com/assets/stock/ColorMatched_01/White/640/cc_2010FRD014b_01_640/cc_2010FRD014b_01_640_UX.jpg)
Yeah.
Quote from: 2o6 on March 02, 2018, 08:53:05 AM
OK, VW Brazil has a MQB car that looks very similar to the US Jetta, called the Virtus; basically it's the B-segment Polo, but with a sedan body. Even though it's smaller than the Jetta, it's proportions and detailing are so much better than the US Jetta. And the Virtus isn't really that small; it's a little bit longer and wider than the Sonic sedan, and probably closer in size to a Cruze.
(http://www.inautonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/VW-Virtus-is-the-Polo-sedan-Europe-won't-get-1-1024x576.jpg)
(https://i.ndtvimg.com/i/2017-11/volkswagen-virtus-sedan_827x510_41511010619.jpg)
That doesn't look better to me. Proportions are sort of odd (too tall for the length maybe?).
Apparently there isn't a single sage green SEL Premium scheduled for delivery in the first two months of production... or the dealer is full of shit.
Which of those two scenarios do you think is more likely :lol:
Well, so we found a sales guy who said he could get us a sage green SEL Premium by the end of June, but allegedly the car got held up at the port. Not sure I 100% believe that, but when we went to the dealer they had a sage green and habanero orange cars in lower trims right next to each other, and Eric liked the orange better anyway. It turns out they had a habanero orange SEL Premium coming in so we picked it up on Saturday.
Nice car. Not super fast, but very comfy and handles nicely. Ended up financing it for 60 months cause the rate was 1.9%. Plan is to pay it off earlier. TBD exactly when, depends on timing with a bunch of other things.
Congratulations! Pics please
(https://preview.ibb.co/f6vDGo/36488222_10216652163678116_5141888302210613248_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hdWnbo)
(https://preview.ibb.co/nfHFU8/36421872_10216652163478111_7563614253534412800_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mmGW2T)
(https://preview.ibb.co/dSEvU8/36383588_10216652163918122_3159836392041742336_n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iqafwo)
Interesting, it looks better in "real life" pictures than the professional studio shots VW puts out.
Nice looking car IMHO. :ohyeah:
Yeah, agree. Most of the promotional pictures give it awkward proportions.
Great colour choice.
Why a Jetta over the Golf? Looks nice, though. Will you get new wheels/tires for it? Lower it?
I hope that digital dash is without blue screens of death. I think you're the only member so far with a digital dash?
Quote from: Rich on July 09, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
Why a Jetta over the Golf? Looks nice, though. Will you get new wheels/tires for it? Lower it?
I hope that digital dash is without blue screens of death. I think you're the only member so far with a digital dash?
Eric doesn't like hatchbacks. Really, once the 2019 Jetta came out and looked for pretty good (more exciting vs the prev two generations), it was inevitable. Eric's first car was a Jetta so he's pretty attached to the nameplate.
Quote from: Rich on July 09, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
Why a Jetta over the Golf? Looks nice, though. Will you get new wheels/tires for it? Lower it?
I hope that digital dash is without blue screens of death. I think you're the only member so far with a digital dash?
Is BSOD a legit excuse for speeding? :lol:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 09, 2018, 02:58:30 PM
Is BSOD a legit excuse for speeding? :lol:
:thumbsup:
Isn't the Jetta roomier than the Golf? Either way, nice car! Very reminiscent of the A3 sedan.
Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 09, 2018, 11:54:31 AM
Interesting, it looks better in "real life" pictures than the professional studio shots VW puts out.
Nice looking car IMHO. :ohyeah:
That actually looks a lot better in real life, wow. Maybe its the color? But the press photos are much more boring.
Quote from: TBR on July 09, 2018, 01:03:35 PM
Eric doesn't like hatchbacks.
Pfff, yeah well hatchbacks don't like him either.
The red color which to my eyes has an orange tinge to it I've seen on a lot of new VW Tiguans. I think it looks fantastic especially when compared with the sea of white, silver, black and all shades in between of what most people get. It really pops in a good way. I wonder how much it'll fade after a few years of sunlight exposure. Great choice!
I've been seeing more and more interesting colors on cars, I think. Or I just notice it more now. Dunno.
Quote from: veeman on July 10, 2018, 11:38:25 AM
The red color which to my eyes has an orange tinge to it I've seen on a lot of new VW Tiguans. I think it looks fantastic especially when compared with the sea of white, silver, black and all shades in between of what most people get. It really pops in a good way. I wonder how much it'll fade after a few years of sunlight exposure. Great choice!
Looks a bit red in those pictures, but it is orange.
I wouldn't have picked it myself, but I do think it looks quite nice. Definitely stands out (hence why I wouldn't pick it myself).
Vastly better than the discount grade blue they used in the press photos, that's for sure.
Also, realized I forgot - definitely won't lower it, but might get new wheels eventually, although we've already warmed up to these quite a bit.
Black chrome rims would look nice with that colour.
I like the OEM wheels you have on there.
Looks like a Kia
What's wrong with KIAs????
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 13, 2018, 01:02:08 PM
What's wrong with KIAs????
It looks like a Kia. I didn't say anything about the brand.