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Title: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 04:59:23 PM
So right now I've got my 09 RX-8 as my DD and the 90 Miata gets pulled out from time to time when the weather is nice. I've also got a 2000 F-150 that I only use for shit around the house. Buying pine needles for the gardens, wood for projects, buying large shit or pulling my girlfriends Honda out of our driveway when it snows. I still have that one job I've had for over 24 years now buy they moved our shop farther way from my house. So I'm putting way more miles on the RX then I'd like. Between premium gas and expensive as hell tires that last less then 2 years I'm starting to think that a more "practical" car would be better for work. I always said I'd never buy another FWD 4 banger car again but that 2018 turbo Mazda6 is starting to look kind of nice these days. It's also got a big trunk that would fit my golf bag better.

So, money isn't really the issue. I can afford having 4 cars at one time. But is it even practical? Other then the fact that it's like automotive telepathy when you dive it and it clicks every fun box for me I don't know if I should keep the RX-8. I don't really have another covered area to park the thing if I get another new car. I could sell it and use that money to help pay for the practical car. It's a rotary and so we all know it's a time bomb that will go off one day. I've not really had any problems with it up until last week when a strong gas smell under the hood popped up out of the blue.

But at the same time to this day I still regret selling my 93 MX-3 GS. And it's not even half the car that the RX is so I have this fear that if I let her go I'll look back on it as a mistake.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
Keeping your old RX8, even if it drinks gas, might be more economical. Have you run the scenario numbers in Excel?

It's a good thing that you're driving the RX8 so much IMO
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 12, 2018, 05:03:13 PM
Of course the answer is "it depends". If you can afford them and enjoy them, have as many as you like.

We spend countless hours here rationalizing these kinds of decisions. It's 99.99% emotion, 0.01% reason. But we love telling ourselves how smart and rational we are.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:05:43 PM
Me, I get sentimental about certain things. I have my favorite thing, and redundancy makes me feel wasteful/unfaithful.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:21:42 PM
I've never liked what I would call "large cars." But I'm 44 and have been doing bodywork for 24+ years. I'm getting old and worn out. I drive all over NC and SC playing golf every weekend and sometimes it hits me. I think "a softer car with an automatic and larger trunk would be nice." I never thought there would be a day that would be rolling around my head. I mean I'm over 6'4" and drove an NA miata for 20+ years.

Ideally I'd build a 3 car garage with a lift. But that just seems a little overkill.

The smart and logical thing to do is sell the R3. But I'm having difficulty talking myself into that.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:23:57 PM
How about replacing the F150 with a DD'able truck?
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:42:43 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:23:57 PM
How about replacing the F150 with a DD'able truck?
I had thought of that. But I go into town all the time for fun. No way in hell am I driving a full size tank there. And my truck bed is over 6 feet and I often fill it completely up with crap. So a small truck would take multiple trips.

That and I really don't like driving trucks.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: ChrisV on February 12, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
I've always said, as a car guy, I could live in a 10 car garage with a lean-to attached. If you're a car guy and can afford to keep them, keep as many as you like. Look at Jay Leno. I could easy see filling up a 10 car garage with favorite cars and not even get to the practical stuff. As a single guy owning a body shop, I had upwards of 10 projects that I owned going on at one time, with a few completed cars in the mix. It's easy to do if you are at all interested in cars.

I'm down to one car for me, one for my wife and a truck to do truck things and I can't stand it. There are so many cars I want to build/buy/drive...
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MX793 on February 12, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:42:43 PM
I had thought of that. But I go into town all the time for fun. No way in hell am I driving a full size tank there. And my truck bed is over 6 feet and I often fill it completely up with crap. So a small truck would take multiple trips.

That and I really don't like driving trucks.

El Camino
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Don't you get called a homophobic slur if you're seen outside a truck in the Carolinas?
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 12, 2018, 05:47:52 PM
Trucks are $Texas, trucks down here = Subarus by you

I recommend a 6MT G. Stock suspension is ass but you can drive mine to see how they handle buttoned down. They rev to 7.5K stock and 8K safely with a tune, and are all day comfy even on coilovers.

Another idea if you don't really need a back seat all the time is an S550 Rustang GT. Abundant, quick, comfy, reliable. Huge though, bigger than my G I think which is ridiculous. There's also the GTI. Actually a lot of choice and range with 3 pedals, speed, refinement and some level of fun. Best bet is to just go out and start test driving shit.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:50:33 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Don't you get called a homophobic slur if you're seen outside a truck in the Carolinas?
Probably all of SC and the parts of NC between Charlotte and Raleigh.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: CaminoRacer on February 12, 2018, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: MX793 on February 12, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
El Camino

Yesssss
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:56:30 PM
I looked at the Q50 Red Sport. Fan of the motor but not the handling. When it comes to cars with 4 doors I really don't have a passion for any of them made these days. I was looking at the Mazda 6 and Nissan Maxima because I know how to work on them. But I've got zero feelings about them. It would be my first appliance car.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: MX793 on February 12, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
El Camino

I don't think they make those anymore.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 12, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
If you like driving the RX8 then keep it and just daily drive it, gas and tires are cheaper than having another car IMO. 

4 cars is a lot. If you want to daily drive something more practical I'd consolidate. Either consolidate the two fun cars or replace the F150 with a newer more comfortable truck or SUV.

That said if you have the space, can afford them all, and get enjoyment or utility out of all of them there isn't necessarily such thing as "too many". I just think you can fill all those roles with fewer than 4 cars.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
Do fast hatches get you excited at all? They're the kind of appliance that gets me hot and bothered.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:05:29 PM
Sometimes I think what I should do is unload the RX-8 and Miata, but a normal DD and get a mint, bone stock FD RX-7 with really low miles.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: CALL_911 on February 12, 2018, 06:06:25 PM
Man, if I had the space and money, I'd go nuts buying all sorts of shit from the 90s/2000s. Let's see:
1. S2000
2. NA2 NSX
3. 993
4. 991.2 GT3 for a DD
5. E46 M3
6. E60 M5
7. 4Runner
8. S52 swapped E30 wagon
10. C7 Z06 or ZR1

I'm sure I could think of more.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 93JC on February 12, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:05:29 PM
a mint, bone stock FD RX-7 with really low miles

And I bet it'll run on pixie dust and emit unicorn farts from its exhaust.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:07:54 PM
Quote from: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
Do fast hatches get you excited at all? They're the kind of appliance that gets me hot and bothered.

What? Not a fan of the new Civic Si looks. Won't own a VW. Ford Focus is cool but I'm not sure it's more practical then a RX-8.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: 93JC on February 12, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
And I bet it'll run on pixie dust and emit unicorn farts from its exhaust.
I see them all the time. But it will cost you $35K+
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 12, 2018, 06:06:25 PM
Man, if I had the space and money, I'd go nuts buying all sorts of shit from the 90s/2000s. Let's see:
1. S2000
2. NA2 NSX
3. 993
4. 991.2 GT3 for a DD
5. E46 M3
6. E60 M5
7. 4Runner
8. S52 swapped E30 wagon

I'm sure I could think of more.
I have lots of land. But my shop only holds two cars. And my garage holds two also. And my woman uses one of those spots. Not big of parking cars outside.
Well I have lots land.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: r0tor on February 12, 2018, 06:11:35 PM
Nobody makes an RX8 replacement... Just keep it
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: giant_mtb on February 12, 2018, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 05:21:42 PM
Ideally I'd build a 3 car garage with a lift. But that just seems a little overkill.

Overkill?  Not if it's ideal. 
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 12, 2018, 07:02:06 PM
A three car garage isn't overkill if you have the space.  I would love a 3 car garage, for the most part lots are small around here and very few houses have them.

If adding garage space is overkill what about a covered parking pad, like etype John built, for supplemental covered parking?
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Raza on February 12, 2018, 07:09:39 PM
If you can afford to keep the RX-8 running and have the space to keep it, I'd keep it. I'd pick one up myself if I could find one in the right condition.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Payman on February 12, 2018, 08:17:11 PM
You've been away. The correct answer is sell them all and buy a CR-V.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 93JC on February 12, 2018, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 12, 2018, 06:08:59 PM
I see them all the time. But it will cost you $35K+

The only stock FD RX-7s I've seen in the last decade 15 years have been Ẽfinis imported from Japan.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Rich on February 12, 2018, 08:27:44 PM
:lol:

Since you keep the hardtop on the miata all the time... I'd sell the Miata and RX-8, get an FD RX-7 and something with a dual clutch as a DD.  I don't think you could go straight slushie.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Raza on February 12, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: Rich on February 12, 2018, 08:27:44 PM
:lol:

Since you keep the hardtop on the miata all the time... I'd sell the Miata and RX-8, get an FD RX-7 and something with a dual clutch as a DD.  I don't think you could go straight slushie.

As someone who regularly drives a car with a dual clutch auto, I promise you that there's no difference.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Rich on February 12, 2018, 08:45:26 PM
Quote from: Raza  on February 12, 2018, 08:39:55 PM
As someone who regularly drives a car with a dual clutch auto, I promise you that there's no difference.

Yeah, there's a difference.  I drove an A3 with DSG back in 2013 and an 8AT Camaro V6 recently.  The A3 was not only more responsive to inputs, but shifted faster.   The 4doors with DSG are more likely to have paddle shifters, too.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: veeman on February 12, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
I have three cars - one for me, one for my wife and also family trip car, and one for nanny to shuttle kids around in.  The third car also comes in very handy if one of our other cars is in the shop.

I'd love to get a classic 70s car to drive locally around in when the weather is nice.  But paying an extra car's auto insurance and Connecticut town auto tax which isn't cheap (couple hundred dollars) prevents me right now.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: 93JC on February 12, 2018, 08:18:34 PM
The only stock FD RX-7s I've seen in the last decade 15 years have been Ẽfinis imported from Japan.
I look all the time just for fun and to see what they cost. I see about 5-6 flawless mint ones come up each year. I'm talking even the stereo/CD unit is stock, no changes to the engine and the floor mats look brand new. But they will cost you.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 04:39:06 AM
I saw a stock RX-7 on Craigslist up here a bit ago, went for under $10 and had under 50k miles.

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Answer to your question= no of course. Most I've had is 4, a non-traveling big old van I used for sleeping then became storage, minivan, and 2 subarus.

For a while in 2012 I had minivan, subaru, and Miata. The glory of picking which of the latter two to drive to work was glorious. I definitely want choices again someday, but now it's family Odyssey and Impreza.

Many times we get the itch to just get something 'new', or different. And it can nag on us. Don't bite!  Take your time to figure out what you really want to do and go with that.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: dazzleman on February 13, 2018, 04:55:48 AM
It's a subjective analysis.  If you can afford the cars, and the pleasure they bring you outstrips the costs and work involved, then it's fine.  I think the definition of "too many" cars will vary person by person, depending on personal tastes, financial situation, aptitude in maintaining the cars, etc.

Though if you're seriously asking yourself if you have too many cars, then you probably do.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 05:50:45 AM
Quote from: dazzleman on February 13, 2018, 04:55:48 AM
It's a subjective analysis.  If you can afford the cars, and the pleasure they bring you outstrips the costs and work involved, then it's fine.  I think the definition of "too many" cars will vary person by person, depending on personal tastes, financial situation, aptitude in maintaining the cars, etc.

Though if you're seriously asking yourself if you have too many cars, then you probably do.

By normal logic 4 cars is too many. But I'm not normal. I'm not married, don't/won't have kids and I'm turning my only guest room in the house into a video game room. I don't do normal. 
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 05:53:38 AM
Does it absolutely have to be new?

I really liked the new Maxima and almost bought one... but no aftermarket + CVT scares kept me away. If you are buying new as an appliance that probably won't be an issue. They are really good.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MrH on February 13, 2018, 05:56:57 AM
Buy a leftover Avalon for a huge discount and call it a day.

I think 4 cars just for myself is too much, but in your situation, the Miata and RX8 aren't going to get you much back. Better off just keeping them.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
Yes new. I like warranties. Because I work on cars all day long the last thing I want to do is work on my own stuff. I'm to the point I hate holding tools in my hand.

So it will be new.

Think I can rearrange my shop to fit the RX-8 and MX-5 in it. Park the F-150 under the shed next to it. Then put the 4 door and Chandra's car in the house garage.

If I don't use the old stuff enough I can just sell one or two later on.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 06:02:08 AM
Just get an extended warranty. Besides, if you pick a decent car nothing will go wrong. An Avalon is bulletproof.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 06:06:54 AM
Guys I know I said I don't have much love for 4 doors and I'm getting older but I'm not Toyota Avalon old.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
CRV.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Raza on February 13, 2018, 07:24:49 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 06:06:54 AM
Guys I know I said I don't have much love for 4 doors and I'm getting older but I'm not Toyota Avalon old.

:lol:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: shp4man on February 13, 2018, 07:45:08 AM
I was going to suggest selling one or two of your vehicles and get a vintage vehicle of some kind, but if you don't want to tinker with vehicles, that may not be the best option.
The great thing about classics is the depreciation factor is reversed. If you select a nice one, they're great drivers, then there are car shows and the whole deal.
But hell, a body man? Nice! I'm thinking about doing the body work on my old truck, which involves welding in a rocker panel and some other rust repair. Skills baby.  ;)
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 07:49:55 AM
My idea of a classic car is an RX-7. The oldest I'd think about would be a Datsun 240-Z. I'm a Jap car guy.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: shp4man on February 13, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 07:49:55 AM
My idea of a classic car is an RX-7. The oldest I'd think about would be a Datsun 240-Z. I'm a Jap car guy.

Old Z's have quite a following- also some rust issues- you'd fit right in.  :lol:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 13, 2018, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 06:45:52 AM
CRV.

:hesaid: :rockon:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 13, 2018, 08:16:35 AM
Back to the initial dilemma.

I´d hold on to the RX-8 definitely. You say you can afford a 4th car as a DD. Do that. Make it very different. Abarth I say.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
Hold on guys, this wasn't a "what kind of car should I get" thing. No way in hell I'm buying a Fiat. Have any of you ever worked on one before?

Nissan/ Infiniti
Mazda
Toyota/ Lexus
Subaru
Possibly Honda/ Acura even if they're difficult to work on.

Those are the brands I'll buy. I'll never buy a car from Europe because I don't like working on them. Driving, sure but not working. I refuse to work on VW's and Audi's at work I hate them so much.

I don't hate Ford or Chevy like I did in past but I don't really care for them.

Chrysler/Jeep/ Dodge can go fuck themselves
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 08:43:11 AM
CRV is the only answer.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 08:47:49 AM
Why are you factoring in how hard the car is to work on if you're getting it new with a warranty? I also think the Abarth is a bad idea for other reasons.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 08:47:49 AM
Why are you factoring in how hard the car is to work on if you're getting it new with a warranty? I also think the Abarth is a bad idea for other reasons.
I keep cars for 10 years or more most of the time. In that time something will happen to it.

Also modern cars are very different from just a few years ago. Each manufacture has different ways to weld, glue and do bodywork to them. Sometimes you need equipment just for one brand. European cars are bad about this.

My shop was purchased 5 years ago. It was turned into a fleet shop that only works on small hits for Enterprise rental car. So they took almost all our stuff out of the shop that I could work on anything other then a few cars.

I could buy a brand new car and get hit that day. I'd fix it but I'm limited in what I've got to use. Also it's nice to know what holds something together. And for 16 years all I worked on were cars from Japan.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: shp4man on February 13, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
https://www.carsforsale.com/datsun-240z-for-sale-in-omaha-ne-C136856-L119900 (https://www.carsforsale.com/datsun-240z-for-sale-in-omaha-ne-C136856-L119900)

$24K and rising. Just like the sun. (that's a pun) :lol:

(https://dxsdcl7y7vn9x.cloudfront.net/479123/FB426449-1313-4CFB-A783-EB4547AA57C7_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
I keep cars for 10 years or more most of the time. In that time something will happen to it.

Also modern cars are very different from just a few years ago. Each manufacture has different ways to weld, glue and do bodywork to them. Sometimes you need equipment just for one brand. European cars are bad about this.

My shop was purchased 5 years ago. It was turned into a fleet shop that only works on small hits for Enterprise rental car. So they took almost all our stuff out of the shop that I could work on anything other then a few cars.

I could buy a brand new car and get hit that day. I'd fix it but I'm limited in what I've got to use. Also it's nice to know what holds something together. And for 16 years all I worked on were cars from Japan.
I am not quite understanding your fixation with repairability. Most cars don't get into accidents. How many times have you crashed the cars in your fleet? Not to mention, if you're buying new, I would assume you are getting full coverage. So if anything happens you won't have to fix it anyway. Plus in a few years any kind of crash is going to write the car off because of airbags. So you might as well totally discount the "crash repairability" of the car. I think your line of work makes you think it's a lot more important than it really is. I'd be more worried about safety personally.

Also not sure why you are basing this purchase around how easy it will be to work on this car, when you just said you hate working on cars :lol: I repeat, do not factor repairability in your decision... full coverage on my car is like $100 a month, you are 10 years older than me; even with a more expensive car I doubt it will be much more expensive. Let insurance handle that and just go with the car that will be nicer to be in the 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the time it's not in a collision shop
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 10:42:47 AM
I've never hit anything. I have been hit multiple times. I could be hit by a deer. I could get into a hailstorm. It could be like my RX-8 that after years of driving it's got rock chips on it so if I keep it I'm repainting the whole car so it looks good again. And small hits must be repaired just like large ones. I won't drive around in a car with a dent in it. That shit stands out to me because I'm trained to see even the littlest thing.
I do hate working on cars that I'm not getting paid for. So fixing a broken engine part isn't something I'm into.

If something requiring body work happens to one of my cars I get paid very well. Just ask the unfortunate people who have hit me before.

And are you saying I should let Someone other then myself do bodywork on my own car? I've known lots of body people. Only 2 of them I'd let touch my cars. The rest I would t let change a blown tail lamp.

But there's also the fact that other the Porsche, I can't think of another non-Japanese brand I'd give my money to.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 10:47:24 AM
Well, if that's how you want to play it, then good luck. I don't think anyone here can really offer you any suggestions.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
I wasn't asking what car to get. It will be a Japanese 4 door sedan. I was looking for opinions on if I should keep lots of cars. Perhaps someone here had the same "problem" at one time and could tell me what they did and how it worked out.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 10:59:48 AM
Keeping 4 cars 3 of which are older does not make much sense for someone who both doesn't like working on their cars and doesn't want other people working on their cars.  One or the other sure, both no.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 10:53:23 AM
I wasn't asking what car to get. It will be a Japanese 4 door sedan. I was looking for opinions on if I should keep lots of cars. Perhaps someone here had the same "problem" at one time and could tell me what they did and how it worked out.
Depends. How much body work are you willing to do :lol:

At one point I had the Civic, G and MKX at my house (2 car garage and 1.5 width driveway). It was a complete PITA. My FIL has the Civic now and we haven't even set up a payment plan yet... but I wanted to get it to him because I was tired of having to deal with shuffling the cars around. Wasn't even that much money in it anyway. I would think about whether or not the money you can get for the Miata is worth not having to move it around and just keep the other 3.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 11:11:54 AM
Perhaps I should word this different. If I must work on a car for free outside of my job then it must be Japanese.

And I buy Japanese so I never have to work on them all that much.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on February 13, 2018, 11:14:57 AM
How about an MX5 RF? It's not very practical but it's incredibly fun and the fuel economy is tops.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 11:11:54 AM

Perhaps I should word this different. If I must work on a car for free outside of my job then it must be Japanese.

And I buy Japanese so I never have to work on them all that much.



The CRV is Japanese and could replace all three.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 11:26:04 AM
Quote from: Laconian on February 13, 2018, 11:14:57 AM
How about an MX5 RF? It's not very practical but it's incredibly fun and the fuel economy is tops.

I can't fit in it. I'd sell my NA and RX and get a 6 and ND probably if I could fit in one. But I just can't. It has no head room at all.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 11:26:13 AM
Toyota Yaris iA
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: shp4man on February 13, 2018, 09:20:39 AM
https://www.carsforsale.com/datsun-240z-for-sale-in-omaha-ne-C136856-L119900 (https://www.carsforsale.com/datsun-240z-for-sale-in-omaha-ne-C136856-L119900)

$24K and rising. Just like the sun. (that's a pun) :lol:

(https://dxsdcl7y7vn9x.cloudfront.net/479123/FB426449-1313-4CFB-A783-EB4547AA57C7_1.jpg)

That's beautiful!  And my "gotta have" car when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 11:26:04 AM
I can’t fit in it. I’d sell my NA and RX and get a 6 and ND probably if I could fit in one. But I just can’t. It has no head room at all.

Keep the truck, get regular cloth top Miata for good weather and CRV for rain. Get rid of the other cars.  :huh:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 01:48:38 PM
So I must ask, when did the CRV become the must have car here?
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 01:48:38 PM
So I must ask, when did the CRV become the must have car here?


Lebowski sold his M3 to get a car for his wife, and rotor lost his shit. Now we just troll and recommend CR-V's for anything now.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 02:11:53 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 01:51:20 PM

Lebowski sold his M3 to get a car for his wife, and rotor lost his shit. Now we just troll and recommend CR-V's for anything now.

+ Morris' sweet MB vert got munched so he got a CR-V.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 02:21:20 PM
Spinners en masse have been coming to the realization the CRV is a compelling package wrt value, practicality, features, reliability record etc plus most of us don't get to push our cars beyond 2-3/10ths very often anyway. A few get very angry about this yet do so only out of CRVenvy. Be careful, it runs deep in the 'Spin RX8 owners pool.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 02:39:31 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 02:21:20 PM
Spinners en masse have been coming to the realization the CRV is a compelling package wrt value, practicality, features, reliability record etc plus most of us don't get to push our cars behind 2-3/10ths very often anyway. A few get very angry about this yet do so only out of CRVenvy. Be careful, it runs deep in the 'Spin RX8 owners pool.


so is this admitting you and Cougs are the same person?
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Xer0 on February 13, 2018, 02:43:50 PM
Personally, I wouldn't sell the RX-8.  Those things have pretty crap resale value and you won't really make anything out of it. Plus, it sounds like you enjoy it a lot and doesn't seem to give you problems and there is literally nothing out there like it to replace it with.

Anyway, I've come to the conclusion that the perfect garage is 4 vehicles.  Obviously, if you can have more by all means do it, but at 4 each marginal vehicle provides diminishing returns of happiness.  This is all scientifically proven.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 02:39:31 PM

so is this admitting you and Cougs are the same person?



I think Gougs prefers the Camry. 
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 13, 2018, 03:23:06 PM
Quote from: Lebowski on February 13, 2018, 02:50:59 PM

I think Gougs prefers the Camry.
Makes stoplight lunch meat of the poster class while retaining Consumer Reports highest honors
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Raza on February 13, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 08:41:55 AM
Hold on guys, this wasn't a "what kind of car should I get" thing. No way in hell I'm buying a Fiat. Have any of you ever worked on one before?

Nissan/ Infiniti
Mazda
Toyota/ Lexus
Subaru
Possibly Honda/ Acura even if they're difficult to work on.

Those are the brands I'll buy. I'll never buy a car from Europe because I don't like working on them. Driving, sure but not working. I refuse to work on VW's and Audi's at work I hate them so much.

I don't hate Ford or Chevy like I did in past but I don't really care for them.

Chrysler/Jeep/ Dodge can go fuck themselves

The Fiat is not a Fiat.  It's a Mazda.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: giant_mtb on February 13, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
I still vote build more garage.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 05:45:51 PM
Quote from: Raza  on February 13, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
The Fiat is not a Fiat.  It's a Mazda.
Not the 500. And I like the MX-5 way more then the Fiat spider. I'm not a fan of the front or rear of the Fiat.

But I'm not buying another small car anyway.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: r0tor on February 13, 2018, 05:54:02 PM
Quote from: Xer0 on February 13, 2018, 02:43:50 PM
Personally, I wouldn't sell the RX-8.  Those things have pretty crap resale value and you won't really make anything out of it. Plus, it sounds like you enjoy it a lot and doesn't seem to give you problems and there is literally nothing out there like it to replace it with.



This
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 13, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
I still vote build more garage.

+1

Can't have enough garage.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 13, 2018, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
+1

Can't have enough garage.

Words to live by.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MrH on February 13, 2018, 06:25:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 13, 2018, 04:47:25 PM
I still vote build more garage.

Carport. Get it right  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on February 13, 2018, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 13, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
+1

Can't have enough garage.

Yes, I'd like a 3 car one with a golf simulator room too. But that's way down on my list of things to buy. It will be a few years.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on February 13, 2018, 06:29:04 PM
Quote from: MrH on February 13, 2018, 06:25:28 PM
Carport. Get it right  :shakesfist:

Both. The end. Big things are coming.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: GoCougs on February 13, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on February 13, 2018, 01:51:20 PM

Lebowski sold his M3 to get a car for his wife, and rotor lost his shit. Now we just troll and recommend CR-V's for anything now.

r0tor did lose his mind, and it was beautiful.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 24, 2018, 03:28:35 AM
The guys on facebook know this but I sold the RX-8 yesterday. And I got a Mazda6 signature turbo in soul red crystal. It wasn't an easy thing to do to let the 8 go but I have no logical need or room right at the moment for 4 cars. And I'd rather have an FD RX-7 then an RX-8 so that will be my focus for my future "toy" car.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 24, 2018, 05:52:40 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 24, 2018, 06:32:05 AM
Interesting. Yes, 6 turbo + FD3S is a very nice combo. Better hurry up getting that FD3S, they are going up in value.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 24, 2018, 07:24:21 AM
I've already accepted that it will cost me north of $40K for an FD
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on April 25, 2018, 08:11:36 PM
Oh those 6 turbos look so nice..
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 26, 2018, 07:48:05 AM
Are they available in stickshift????
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 08:59:59 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 26, 2018, 07:48:05 AM
Are they available in stickshift????

No. And probably because none would buy one.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: HurricaneSteve on April 26, 2018, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 24, 2018, 03:28:35 AM
The guys on facebook know this but I sold the RX-8 yesterday. And I got a Mazda6 signature turbo in soul red crystal. It wasn't an easy thing to do to let the 8 go but I have no logical need or room right at the moment for 4 cars. And I'd rather have an FD RX-7 then an RX-8 so that will be my focus for my future "toy" car.

Congrats! How do you like the 6 Turbo? Surprisingly I haven't seen any magazine reviews for it yet, only YouTube test drives. And to answer the original question, no you can't have too many cars. I'm good with three at the moment and if space allowed for it I would go for more.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 01:57:59 PM
I'm surprised I like it as much as I do. I'm positive it's faster the the RX-8 in a drag race. And for what it is the thing handles really well and isn't soft as a marshmallow like a Camry. I was afraid it have torque steer out the ass with 250 hp and 310 Ft-lb of torque but it's actually not noticeable. I got the Signature so it's got every bell and whistle I could want with leather all over the place. It's also really quit, I was going 100 the other day and didn't know it because I couldn't hear any wind or tire noise.

Now it's not a sports car but my old back and knees enjoy and the heated and A/C seats. And I've already gone over 300 miles on one tank with more to go. That's was impossible in the RX-8. Honestly I loved my RX-8 with a passion but I don't regret replacing it at all.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on April 26, 2018, 02:11:55 PM
:rockon:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 12,000 RPM on April 26, 2018, 02:21:15 PM
Do you feel like you've betrayed the enthusiast community by getting an auto sedan???
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: 68_427 on April 26, 2018, 02:33:26 PM
The signature is probably the nicest overall car under $40k
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on April 26, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on April 26, 2018, 02:33:26 PM
The signature is probably the nicest overall car under $40k

Can't be better than a CLA. That's a Mercedes.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Lebowski on April 26, 2018, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 26, 2018, 02:21:15 PM

Do you feel like you've betrayed the enthusiast community by getting an auto sedan???




That's up to Rotor to decide.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 03:12:05 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on April 26, 2018, 02:21:15 PM
Do you feel like you've betrayed the enthusiast community by getting an auto sedan???
It's my first auto. And it is strange. I still have an MX-5 however. I've done my part for the enthusiast community over the years. I had strange things like a 1.8 V6, a 1.3 rotary with suicide rear doors and drove a NA Miata for over 20 years as my only car even if I'm 6'4". If it's time to retire then so be it.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 26, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
Can't be better than a CLA. That's a Mercedes.
My car won't live in the shop.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on April 26, 2018, 04:11:26 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 03:13:23 PM
My car won't live in the shop.

But Mercedes

*magical hand flutter*
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 26, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Laconian on April 26, 2018, 04:11:26 PM
But Mercedes

*magical hand flutter*

:golfclap:
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: HurricaneSteve on May 10, 2018, 01:13:31 PM
With 300+ lbs/ft of torque that's not surprising at all. I think the standard 2.5L does 0-60 in about 7 seconds and the turbo with nearly double the power should shave at least a second off of that, if not more. It always had the looks and handling but now it has power and luxury. If I didn't have parking concerns it would be on my shopping list for sure.

Quote from: Onslaught on April 26, 2018, 01:57:59 PM
I'm surprised I like it as much as I do. I'm positive it's faster the the RX-8 in a drag race. And for what it is the thing handles really well and isn't soft as a marshmallow like a Camry. I was afraid it have torque steer out the ass with 250 hp and 310 Ft-lb of torque but it's actually not noticeable. I got the Signature so it's got every bell and whistle I could want with leather all over the place. It's also really quit, I was going 100 the other day and didn't know it because I couldn't hear any wind or tire noise.

Now it's not a sports car but my old back and knees enjoy and the heated and A/C seats. And I've already gone over 300 miles on one tank with more to go. That's was impossible in the RX-8. Honestly I loved my RX-8 with a passion but I don't regret replacing it at all.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Laconian on May 14, 2018, 04:36:59 PM
A modern Mazda that makes no apologies. Yay
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on May 14, 2018, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on April 24, 2018, 03:28:35 AM
The guys on facebook know this but I sold the RX-8 yesterday. And I got a Mazda6 signature turbo in soul red crystal. It wasn't an easy thing to do to let the 8 go but I have no logical need or room right at the moment for 4 cars. And I'd rather have an FD RX-7 then an RX-8 so that will be my focus for my future "toy" car.

Good move. Congrats.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: Onslaught on May 17, 2018, 04:43:23 AM
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on April 26, 2018, 12:36:31 PM
Congrats! How do you like the 6 Turbo? Surprisingly I haven't seen any magazine reviews for it yet, only YouTube test drives. And to answer the original question, no you can't have too many cars. I'm good with three at the moment and if space allowed for it I would go for more.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/mazda6/2018/2018-mazda6-signature-25t-first-drive-review/

Looks like one of them finally did one. And I agree with everything they say. The back up camera is a joke but everything else is good.
Title: Re: Can you have too many cars?
Post by: AutobahnSHO on May 17, 2018, 06:01:16 AM
The new neighbors have a blue Mazda6. Wife asked what it was, because she likes it. Very handsome indeed.