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Title: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Galaxy on March 01, 2018, 12:53:28 PM
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Not bad at all.

90kWh Battery, range: 480km according to WLTP.

What I do not like compared to Tesla is the radiator grill at the front. On an E Car a fake radiator is as misplaced as a fake exhaust.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Galaxy on March 01, 2018, 12:54:44 PM
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Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Payman on March 01, 2018, 12:56:31 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on March 01, 2018, 12:53:28 PM
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Not bad at all.

90kWh Battery, range: 480km according to WLTP.

What I do not like compared to Tesla is the radiator grill at the front. On an E Car a fake radiator is as misplaced as a fake exhaust.

OMG I LOVE it. I like the fake grille... makes it look conventional. What a fantastic design.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 2o6 on March 01, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
+1, it's fantastic. If I had the money, it would be my pick.




However, I wonder about the US range? 90kwh is quite a bit bigger than the battery in the one in the Bolt, but the mile rating is lower than the Bolt. (The Ampera-E is rated at 530KM on the WTLP cycle) Where did all the range go? Even the old Model S P90D was rated for 300MI, which is way more than the Jag can do
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on March 01, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
When? Real or vaporware?
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 2o6 on March 01, 2018, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 01, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
When? Real or vaporware?

This is the production model. We've already had two concepts.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 01, 2018, 01:27:06 PM
Looks like a Model X got squashed even more.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Galaxy on March 01, 2018, 01:30:21 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 01, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
When? Real or vaporware?

Mexican configurator.

https://buildyour.jaguar.com/jag2/r/model/_/en_xi/i-pace/3fp3h?formCode=jag-config-ipace-en&country=Mexico
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 2o6 on March 01, 2018, 01:46:58 PM
Why is this not called E-Pace tho?
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 01, 2018, 04:21:07 PM
They already have an E-Pace

Don't know how I feel about it. Clearly styled for urbanites, but where can a condo dweller charge? I wish it took more advantage of the freedom enabled by electric propulsion as well. All electric cars should be as intense looking as the Fisker Karma IMO. Hopefully it does well
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: giant_mtb on March 01, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
Front end is cool. Profile is meh. Back end is a scrunched Cherokee.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: r0tor on March 01, 2018, 04:39:30 PM
Interesting... But too little interior space for family Ute duty for me and not exactly something I'd flock to for the fun family ride either
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on March 01, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
Was getting excited until I got to the "priced to compete with the Model X". At those levels it´ll likely be too much. Let´s see what Jaguar does here locally, but already they tend to price themselves out of the market.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Submariner on March 01, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 01, 2018, 04:21:07 PM
They already have an E-Pace

Don't know how I feel about it. Clearly styled for urbanites, but where can a condo dweller charge? I wish it took more advantage of the freedom enabled by electric propulsion as well. All electric cars should be as intense looking as the Fisker Karma IMO. Hopefully it does well

Isn't the Karma back on the market?
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Raza on March 02, 2018, 05:15:52 AM
Quote from: Submariner on March 01, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
Isn't the Karma back on the market?

I thought Fisker went out of business because their incredibly expensive, piece of shit, ugly ass car kept setting itself on fire.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: SJ_GTI on March 02, 2018, 06:58:05 AM
I think it looks good but yeah if this is going to be priced like a Model X then I lose all interest.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 2o6 on March 02, 2018, 07:26:42 AM
The Fisker Karma was a striking design, but really compromised. It had no legroom, no shoulder room, and no headroom.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 02, 2018, 07:27:29 AM
Quote from: Raza  on March 02, 2018, 05:15:52 AM
I thought Fisker went out of business because their incredibly expensive, piece of shit, ugly ass car kept setting itself on fire.

Those things were GORGEOUS.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: AltinD on March 04, 2018, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: Submariner on March 01, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
Isn't the Karma back on the market?

Yes, but I think they aren't fully electric anymore
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Laconian on March 04, 2018, 02:04:54 PM
They never were fully electric. They've always had an Ecotec 4 under the hood.

I sat in one, the interior packaging is abysmal for how large the car's exterior is. Really really bad.

They still sell them too. There's a car dealer that sells oddball Euro lux cars that added Fisker to its roster: Aston Martin, Saab, Lotus, Fisker.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 06, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on March 02, 2018, 07:26:42 AM
The Fisker Karma was a striking design, but really compromised. It had no legroom, no shoulder room, and no headroom.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice things for beauty

I think they could dial back the Fisker like 8 out of 10 and make it inhabitable for adult humans
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Tave on March 10, 2018, 07:15:42 AM
I sat in a Fisker, didn't have any issues. :huh:

Huge footprint though, woulda felt like driving an S-Class sized car w/ BRZ-like interior space.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: 2o6 on March 10, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: Tave on March 10, 2018, 07:15:42 AM
I sat in a Fisker, didn't have any issues. :huh:

Huge footprint though, woulda felt like driving an S-Class sized car w/ BRZ-like interior space.


That's the compromised part I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: ChrisV on March 17, 2018, 01:53:20 PM
The Jag is priced at $60k. Before the $7500 federal tax credit and whatever state credits are available. I want one. I find it beautiful.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?9058786-Production-2019-Jaguar-I-Pace-unveiled-%97-A-394-hp-electric-crossover-with-240-miles-of-range&highlight=ipace

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Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Laconian on March 17, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
Wow, that's a screaming deal!!
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: SJ_GTI on March 20, 2018, 06:11:58 AM
Yeah 60k is not bad for this (from what I can tell, could end up not meeting expectations).

Will be curious to see if this is a hit or not.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: veeman on March 20, 2018, 09:16:11 AM
This is cool.  Surprised that the first legit Tesla Model 3 competitor comes from Jaguar of all makes.  Not the German big 3, Japanese, Volvo, or American domestics. 

The Bolt or Leaf I don't really think are cross shopped with the Model 3.  May  be the Bolt is cross shopped. It's not selling so well in the US though.

If I had to choose between the Model 3 and this Jaguar, I think I'd still pick the Model 3 even with its weirdo interface single do everything screen.  I don't know but with Tesla, you feel like you're part of a movement ahead of it's time. 
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: SJ_GTI on March 20, 2018, 09:42:23 AM
Quote from: veeman on March 20, 2018, 09:16:11 AM
This is cool.  Surprised that the first legit Tesla Model 3 competitor comes from Jaguar of all makes.  Not the German big 3, Japanese, Volvo, or American domestics. 

The Bolt or Leaf I don't really think are cross shopped with the Model 3.  May  be the Bolt is cross shopped. It's not selling so well in the US though.

If I had to choose between the Model 3 and this Jaguar, I think I'd still pick the Model 3 even with its weirdo interface single do everything screen.  I don't know but with Tesla, you feel like you're part of a movement ahead of it's time.

To be fair, the Model 3 can still be significantly cheaper than the Jaguar depending on how you option it.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: Payman on March 29, 2018, 04:07:30 PM
Grille is not fake... it's used for cooling. I love this thing.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: MrH on April 01, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: veeman on March 20, 2018, 09:16:11 AM
This is cool.  Surprised that the first legit Tesla Model 3 competitor comes from Jaguar of all makes.  Not the German big 3, Japanese, Volvo, or American domestics. 

The Bolt or Leaf I don't really think are cross shopped with the Model 3.  May  be the Bolt is cross shopped. It's not selling so well in the US though.

If I had to choose between the Model 3 and this Jaguar, I think I'd still pick the Model 3 even with its weirdo interface single do everything screen.  I don't know but with Tesla, you feel like you're part of a movement ahead of it's time. 

Give me the Jaguar for sure. Because it will actually exist in sufficient quantities.
Title: Re: Jaguar I-Pace
Post by: AutobahnSHO on April 10, 2018, 11:47:12 AM
Fisker had a couple shows at the NYIAS. Weird.