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Title: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 05, 2018, 07:46:55 AM
Beware if any of y'all are in the market for a Ferrari:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/heres-what-ferraris-odometer-rollback-mess-could-mean-for-the-car-world/ar-BBJLpG4?li=BBisPVf&ocid=ientp 
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Raza on March 05, 2018, 07:50:01 AM
Looking forward to a cheap 430 Spyder 6MT to replace the Z4.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: MX793 on March 05, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
Odometer rollback is a felony in the US, besides being incredibly unethical.  I'm honestly shocked that a US dealership would do this even if Ferrari told them to or that it was OK to do.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: giant_mtb on March 05, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Ouch.

How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: MX793 on March 05, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 05, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Ouch.

How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?

Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy.  Happy customers buy more Ferraris.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: 68_427 on March 05, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Isn't this story a year old now
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 05, 2018, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on March 05, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Isn't this story a year old now

yes and no. They first reported it a year ago but recently learned Ferrari knew/ gave ok for dealerships to do it.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 05, 2018, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.

1 digit odometer
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 06, 2018, 10:21:15 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.

I can't find anything that says they are actually.

Lots of stuff about odometer disclosures and tampering laws, and recording the mileage correctly on documents; but nothing I can find actually says "must be equipped."
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: shp4man on March 06, 2018, 10:33:10 AM
Good info....I'll remember that the next time I buy a Ferrari............ :muffin: :dance: :wtf:
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Tave on March 06, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
Quote from: MX793 on March 05, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy.  Happy customers buy more Ferraris.

It's even more insidious than that. Ferrari severely restricts the sale of new vehicles to first-time owners. It's really benefiting the incestuous Ferrari faithful to the significant detriment of new customers.

Not surprising giving how scummy a company it is, but yeesh!
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on March 06, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 06, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 06, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........

:hesaid:
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on March 06, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
I already was leaning McLaren. This seals it.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Rich on March 06, 2018, 10:42:42 PM
I was debating getting that Ferrari, but yeah, after this, I'm just gonna hang onto Miata
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
pfft

Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 07, 2018, 12:29:39 PM
Pagani for me.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 12:55:57 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
pfft

Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS

Except that was a Fiat.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
MGB, from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 12:55:57 PM
Except that was a Fiat.
Quote from: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
MGB, from what I've heard.

Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????

Neither of us is 100% right (but I'm righter). Its actually a Modena Spyder; not a kit car of any sort, but a car built up on a tube chassis running a 289 Ford engine. There are MGB tail lights, but the windshield and front cowl are Fiat 2000 (the roadster, not the heavy tank)
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?

Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.

Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: CaminoRacer on March 07, 2018, 05:40:34 PM
I'm pretty sure they designed & built their own special V12-powered drills.
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Neither of us is 100% right (but I'm righter).

:evildude:
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: Gotta-Qik-C7 on March 07, 2018, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
:lol:
Title: Re: Ferrari Odometer rollbacks
Post by: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.

:golfclap: