Beware if any of y'all are in the market for a Ferrari:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/heres-what-ferraris-odometer-rollback-mess-could-mean-for-the-car-world/ar-BBJLpG4?li=BBisPVf&ocid=ientp
Looking forward to a cheap 430 Spyder 6MT to replace the Z4.
Odometer rollback is a felony in the US, besides being incredibly unethical. I'm honestly shocked that a US dealership would do this even if Ferrari told them to or that it was OK to do.
Ouch.
How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 05, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Ouch.
How would Ferrari itself benefit from being complicit in such activity?
Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy. Happy customers buy more Ferraris.
Isn't this story a year old now
Quote from: 68_427 on March 05, 2018, 06:55:21 PM
Isn't this story a year old now
yes and no. They first reported it a year ago but recently learned Ferrari knew/ gave ok for dealerships to do it.
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.
1 digit odometer
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Are odometers legally required in the US? Ferrari should just get rid of them. Have a "service due now" message on the OBC.
I can't find anything that says they are actually.
Lots of stuff about odometer disclosures and tampering laws, and recording the mileage correctly on documents; but nothing I can find actually says "must be equipped."
Good info....I'll remember that the next time I buy a Ferrari............ :muffin: :dance: :wtf:
Quote from: MX793 on March 05, 2018, 05:43:23 PM
Keeping resale values high keeps customers happy. Happy customers buy more Ferraris.
It's even more insidious than that. Ferrari severely restricts the sale of new vehicles to first-time owners. It's really benefiting the incestuous Ferrari faithful to the significant detriment of new customers.
Not surprising giving how scummy a company it is, but yeesh!
And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........
Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on March 06, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
And this is why I'd drive right past the Ferrari dealership and buy a Lamborghini without second thought.........
:hesaid:
I already was leaning McLaren. This seals it.
I was debating getting that Ferrari, but yeah, after this, I'm just gonna hang onto Miata
pfft
Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS
Pagani for me.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
pfft
Ever since Mr. Bueller showed that Ferraris don't self-drive or fly well, PASS
Except that was a Fiat.
MGB, from what I've heard.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 12:55:57 PM
Except that was a Fiat.
Quote from: 93JC on March 07, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
MGB, from what I've heard.
Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 07, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
Are you arguing with one of the finest John Hughes creations ever????????
Neither of us is 100% right (but I'm righter). Its actually a Modena Spyder; not a kit car of any sort, but a car built up on a tube chassis running a 289 Ford engine. There are MGB tail lights, but the windshield and front cowl are Fiat 2000 (the roadster, not the heavy tank)
So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?
Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
So is the Ferrari dealer putting these cars up on jack stands, popping them in reverse, and leaving a brick on the accelerator to roll those miles off?
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.
I'm pretty sure they designed & built their own special V12-powered drills.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Neither of us is 100% right (but I'm righter).
:evildude:
Quote from: MX793 on March 07, 2018, 04:16:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 07, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Yes, but the brick is imported tuscan marble.
Wrapped in velvet so as not to mar the accelerator pedal, I'm sure.
:golfclap: