Poll
Most Porsche guys will agree that the 993 is more involving and fun to drive than the 996 or 997, but the 996-997's are more liveable and make better daily drivers.
So do Cayennes.
whats your point?
They're more livable and make better daily drivers, do you disagree?
I wouldn't disagree with that, but it doesn't mean that I'd rather drive one daily over a 911.
You just said it makes a better daily driver, but you wouldn't choose it over a 911?
Me confused.
Its probably more comfortable and practical. But i'd be willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for something that I enjoy driving.
Then apply that same logic between different 911s. Or between old and new BMWs. Or between classic and new trucks.
Its the same thing.
People don't get involved with cars because they're practical and reliable. They love them because they're cool.
And some are- quite clearly and non-subjectively- cooler than others.
I never said there was anything wrong with picking the older 911 or older BMW did I?
Would you ever take it to the track/autocross course, though?
It's not like the tail is going to snap loose at speeds you'd go on public roads.
I voted for 996. The only model I'm interested in is the Turbo, and the 996 turbo looks the best.
996>993>993
Question: 993, 996 or 997?
Option 1: 
votes: 12
votes: 12
Option 2: 
votes: 4
votes: 4
Option 3: 
votes: 14
votes: 14
Title: then v. now 16
Post by: sandertheshark on May 06, 2007, 02:18:34 PM
Post by: sandertheshark on May 06, 2007, 02:18:34 PM
Any model, just pick your chassis.
For me it doesn't get better than option #1.
For me it doesn't get better than option #1.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Onslaught on May 06, 2007, 02:21:42 PM
Post by: Onslaught on May 06, 2007, 02:21:42 PM
I'm with you. But I would love to have any of them.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: the Teuton on May 06, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Post by: the Teuton on May 06, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
The 993 is my favorite Porsche. If you made it a Turbo S, it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: ro51092 on May 06, 2007, 03:11:34 PM
Post by: ro51092 on May 06, 2007, 03:11:34 PM
993 GT2. Pure Porsche.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: goldenlover1101 on May 06, 2007, 10:47:43 PM
Post by: goldenlover1101 on May 06, 2007, 10:47:43 PM
997 GTW3
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: SVT666 on May 07, 2007, 08:14:32 AM
Post by: SVT666 on May 07, 2007, 08:14:32 AM
When it comes to Porsche, the rule in my book is, "The newer the better". The whole rear engine thing made the older ones really hard to handle.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 07, 2007, 09:19:55 AM
Post by: chevyguy06 on May 07, 2007, 09:19:55 AM
997>996>993 IMO
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:35:11 AM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 10:35:11 AM
As a weekend toy I'd take the 993. But if I were buying a 911 it would be a year round daily driver so I'll take a 997 Turbo.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Danish on May 07, 2007, 11:15:14 AM
Post by: Danish on May 07, 2007, 11:15:14 AM
993 for sure
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 11:20:25 AM
Post by: 850CSi on May 07, 2007, 11:20:25 AM
997>996>993 IMO. But they're all amazing.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: the Teuton on May 07, 2007, 02:20:36 PM
Post by: the Teuton on May 07, 2007, 02:20:36 PM
There's some speculation as to why the 996-7 take half the time to make compared to the 993. The second-most Porsche collector in the U.S. behind Jerry Seinfeld told me that it's because Porsche's suppliers moved closer to Stuttgart and also because it shares a lot more interchangeable parts with the Boxster than the 993 ever did with the 924/944/968 and 928 ever did.
Personally, I believe that the older car had more involvement by hand than the new ones do. I'm inclined to say that I want to feel that kind of craftsmanship when I get into a car like that. I want to have all of the charm, the quirks, and the individually-built quality. The 996-7 just looks too...generic. Porsche did wonders with the 997, but I still want an air cooled Porsche some day like they were meant to be.
Personally, I believe that the older car had more involvement by hand than the new ones do. I'm inclined to say that I want to feel that kind of craftsmanship when I get into a car like that. I want to have all of the charm, the quirks, and the individually-built quality. The 996-7 just looks too...generic. Porsche did wonders with the 997, but I still want an air cooled Porsche some day like they were meant to be.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: The Pirate on May 07, 2007, 07:56:58 PM
Post by: The Pirate on May 07, 2007, 07:56:58 PM
993
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Secret Chimp on May 07, 2007, 08:10:53 PM
Post by: Secret Chimp on May 07, 2007, 08:10:53 PM
I fart on all of them and choose the 997 Ruf.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on May 07, 2007, 02:20:36 PM
There's some speculation as to why the 996-7 take half the time to make compared to the 993.? The second-most Porsche collector in the U.S. behind Jerry Seinfeld told me that it's because Porsche's suppliers moved closer to Stuttgart and also because it shares a lot more interchangeable parts with the Boxster than the 993 ever did with the 924/944/968 and 928 ever did.?
Personally, I believe that the older car had more involvement by hand than the new ones do.? I'm inclined to say that I want to feel that kind of craftsmanship when I get into a car like that.? I want to have all of the charm, the quirks, and the individually-built quality.? The 996-7 just looks too...generic.? Porsche did wonders with the 997, but I still want an air cooled Porsche some day like they were meant to be.
Most Porsche guys will agree that the 993 is more involving and fun to drive than the 996 or 997, but the 996-997's are more liveable and make better daily drivers.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:20:34 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
Most Porsche guys will agree that the 993 is more involving and fun to drive than the 996 or 997, but the 996-997's are more liveable and make better daily drivers.
So do Cayennes.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:22:01 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:20:34 PM
So do Cayennes.
whats your point?
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:23:02 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:23:02 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:22:01 PM
whats your point?
They're more livable and make better daily drivers, do you disagree?
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:26:38 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:23:02 PM
They're more livable and make better daily drivers, do you disagree?
I wouldn't disagree with that, but it doesn't mean that I'd rather drive one daily over a 911.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Raghavan on May 07, 2007, 08:28:21 PM
Post by: Raghavan on May 07, 2007, 08:28:21 PM
993
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:28:22 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:26:38 PM
I wouldn't disagree with that, but it doesn't mean that I'd rather drive one daily over a 911.
You just said it makes a better daily driver, but you wouldn't choose it over a 911?
Me confused.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:30:49 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:28:22 PM
You just said it makes a better daily driver, but you wouldn't choose it over a 911?
Me confused.
Its probably more comfortable and practical. But i'd be willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for something that I enjoy driving.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: LonghornTX on May 07, 2007, 08:35:01 PM
Post by: LonghornTX on May 07, 2007, 08:35:01 PM
I am going to break the rules a bit and add a fourth choice. The RUF CTR :rockon:.
A short video is available on this page, with some basic info.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=2572&page_number=12
A short video is available on this page, with some basic info.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=2572&page_number=12
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:37:38 PM
Post by: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:37:38 PM
Quote from: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:30:49 PM
Its probably more comfortable and practical. But i'd be willing to sacrifice comfort and practicality for something that I enjoy driving.
Then apply that same logic between different 911s. Or between old and new BMWs. Or between classic and new trucks.
Its the same thing.
People don't get involved with cars because they're practical and reliable. They love them because they're cool.
And some are- quite clearly and non-subjectively- cooler than others.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:41:12 PM
Post by: JYODER240 on May 07, 2007, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 07, 2007, 08:37:38 PM
Then apply that same logic between different 911s. Or between old and new BMWs. Or between classic and new trucks.
Its the same thing.
People don't get involved with cars because they're practical and reliable. They love them because they're cool.
And some are- quite clearly and non-subjectively- cooler than others.
I never said there was anything wrong with picking the older 911 or older BMW did I?
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 07, 2007, 08:42:30 PM
Post by: TheIntrepid on May 07, 2007, 08:42:30 PM
997
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: SVT_Power on May 07, 2007, 08:42:48 PM
Post by: SVT_Power on May 07, 2007, 08:42:48 PM
i'm actually surprised other people voted for the 996 as well. I thought i was the only one
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 07, 2007, 08:46:45 PM
Post by: 280Z Turbo on May 07, 2007, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: HEMI666 on May 07, 2007, 08:14:32 AM
When it comes to Porsche, the rule in my book is, "The newer the better". The whole rear engine thing made the older ones really hard to handle.
Would you ever take it to the track/autocross course, though?
It's not like the tail is going to snap loose at speeds you'd go on public roads.
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: 565 on May 07, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Post by: 565 on May 07, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: M_power on May 07, 2007, 08:42:48 PM
i'm actually surprised other people voted for the 996 as well. I thought i was the only one
I voted for 996. The only model I'm interested in is the Turbo, and the 996 turbo looks the best.
996>993>993
Title: Re: then v. now 16
Post by: Tave on May 08, 2007, 09:08:22 AM
Post by: Tave on May 08, 2007, 09:08:22 AM
997 Turbo, then the 993. I really like all of them though.