Best Jalopy

[68_427]

Prices stopped going down once the 9th gen Civic came out.  The K20 fanboyism as made prices hold steady, or even raise values slightly.

The pre-facelift ones are noticeable cheaper though.  Those are still relatively affordable

[68_427]

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomePage_false_0&formSourceTag=112&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c3833&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c22470&zip=14468&distance=50000&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=162134972

That's a bit of an outlier, and the only one under $6k.  If you want under 100k miles you're spending over $10k

[BimmerM3]

Trooper is much bigger than the Cherokee. Suggest the first generation with the 4-cyl and a stick. So slow it's fun!

Yeah I was very surprised at how small the old Cherokees were when I looked at one in person. Also it was like $3k more for a manual one than a nearly identical automatic.

[CaminoRacer]

Yeah I was very surprised at how small the old Cherokees were when I looked at one in person. Also it was like $3k more for a manual one than a nearly identical automatic.

My dad had two when I was a kid. Seem like the perfect size to me

[giant_mtb]

Yeah I was very surprised at how small the old Cherokees were when I looked at one in person. Also it was like $3k more for a manual one than a nearly identical automatic.

I'd rather have an automatic off road anyways. 

[CaminoRacer]

I'd rather have an automatic off road anyways. 

+1

I know hardcore guys prefer a manual, but I don't trust myself to not roast the clutch on big obstacles

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

+1

I know hardcore guys prefer a manual, but I don't trust myself to not roast the clutch on big obstacles

[MrH]

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/6021084206.html

[Cookie Monster]

+1

I know hardcore guys prefer a manual, but I don't trust myself to not roast the clutch on big obstacles

Clutch bypass for the starter will get you over whatever you need.

[CaminoRacer]

http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3536205?ad_cid=1

I'm leaving town tomorrow but I might call this guy next week.

[Soup DeVille]

+1

I know hardcore guys prefer a manual, but I don't trust myself to not roast the clutch on big obstacles

Put it in low low, and don't use the clutch. Just keep it rolling.

[93JC]

Clutch bypass for the starter will get you over whatever you need.

lel, "bypass"; '96 and earlier Cherokees don't have clutch-starter interlocks.

Yeah I was very surprised at how small the old Cherokees were when I looked at one in person.

They're about the same size as a modern-day Renegade, but a few inches shorter in height.

[Soup DeVille]

My '95 Wrangler didn't have one either.

[Raza]

http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3536205?ad_cid=1

I'm leaving town tomorrow but I might call this guy next week.

Get it.

[CaminoRacer]

Mini is sold.

But there's a decent looking Cherokee

http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3561123?ad_cid=5

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I've been Eye Balling this for a couple weeks!
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/688614002/overview/

[CaminoRacer]

I can't decide if 100% stock or modified but well taken care of (like this one appears to be) is better.

Of course he says it has a new transmission but doesn't mention the engine. 275k is a ton of miles if it's the original engine. Usually they have been rebuilt after 175k.

http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/3568718?ad_cid=16

[MrH]

Lol that ad.

He says the price is negotiable, but less than $1800 and he'll keep some of the audio stuff. Clearly he's not expecting $2300 then. Offer $1800 firm if you want the audio, even less if you don't care. Doesn't seem like a bad price. If the engine dies, would be a relatively easy engine swap I'd imagine.

[CaminoRacer]

Neither are jalopies but whatever

~2013 Cruze or ~2010 Civic. Stickshift. Cruze would have less miles for the same price

[2o6]

Neither are jalopies but whatever

~2013 Cruze or ~2010 Civic. Stickshift. Cruze would have less miles for the same price

What engine is in that Cruze? Is it an Eco or an LT?

[CaminoRacer]

What engine is in that Cruze? Is it an Eco or an LT?

This is just in general. Which engine is better? Without knowing much about them I'd probably go with an LT by default.

Civic wise, I'd probably go with an EX.

[2o6]

This is just in general. Which engine is better? Without knowing much about them I'd probably go with an LT by default.

Civic wise, I'd probably go with an EX.

My Sonic has the same 1.4T and 6MT that are in the Cruze, but the Sonic's gearing is taller.


If it's an ECO, it's got the same engine, but a few little nifty tricks (even taller gearing than the regular LT) that save fuel.


However, the Cruze's steering is meh, and the car as a whole is more like an American Corolla, so not very engaging.


Also, stay away from the 1.8L. It's slower than the 1.4T, with worse economy and not as reliable. (Albeit, the Cruze is kinda midpack as far as staying together)




The Civic, I'd avoid the 2012 Refresh cars. The 2009+ Civic is a good car (aside from Sporty beating on his), with not much to go wrong. Sometimes they gobble up coolant and oil, but most Japanese cars do. Thing is, you can probably find a decent Si for about the same price as an EX.

[CaminoRacer]

I've seen a couple Si's for similar prices, but they're a lot more rare. So it's avoid 2012, but by 2013 they're good again?

I really like the 2017 Sonics but obviously they're more expensive.

[2o6]

You can get a Sonic like mine. I like mine a lot. LTZ Manual cars aren't super hard to find. Same with the Cruze, avoid the 1.8L. (easiest way to tell is that 1.8L Sonics are 5-speed manuals. 1.4T are 6-speeds)


The 2012 isn't *bad* but it's not great. The emergency refresh did a lot with interior quality, and steering and suspension tuning. I think the powertrain in the 2012 car is basically the same as the 2009-2011 car. But the 2013-2014 cars got a new engine.

[CaminoRacer]

What's the RPM in your Sonic at 75-80 mph?

[2o6]

What's the RPM in your Sonic at 75-80 mph?

2750RPM

[CaminoRacer]

Nice

[shp4man]

Ok, FYA. Best jalopy? '65 valiant. Fucking kids. 

[CaminoRacer]

What are those, 4.5" wide front wheels?

[shp4man]

What are those, 4.5" wide front wheels?

Pizza cutters.