RDX V6, Murano o Venza

[12,000 RPM]

Short list for wifey... we have time though

Any other ideas? Just want a roomy reliable 2 row with some punch for <$20K. Thought about the Q5 but it's borderline with reliability and I hate the center console. CR-V etc are too slow and common

[Lebowski]

Crv or Escape probably. Forester?

I would definitely say no to both the Murano and Venza.

[FoMoJo]

Lots to choose from.  Might even check out some domestics or Euros.

I would think that something like this https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Edge-Columbia-d923_L31980#listing=170038820...would, pretty much, fit your bill; with less mileage though.

[Tave]

You could snag a nicely optioned CX-5 for that kinda dough.

[ifcar]

Lots to choose from.  Might even check out some domestics or Euros.

I would think that something like this https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Edge-Columbia-d923_L31980#listing=170038820...would, pretty much, fit your bill; with less mileage though.

The Edge is another one to consider, yeah -- respectable reliability record.

[CaminoRacer]

CX-5 or CX-7

[2o6]

CX-5 or CX-7

CX-7's are terrible about staying together. Avoid anything with that Mazda 2.3L





The CX-5 is sharp, but it's not as refined as the Murano et al.


The Murano, I would make sure you get a warranty with that CVT. My friend's Nissan Rogue's CVT auto actually failed on her two days ago.

RDX is a safe bet, but I would look for the V6 model, and not the Turbo cars.

Venza is a also a safe bet, but it's more like a station wagon rather than an SUV.

X3 is probably out of your price range, but it sells wildly for a reason.

[12,000 RPM]

Crv or Escape probably. Forester?

I would definitely say no to both the Murano and Venza.

Why no Murano/Venza? I don't like anything in that whole CR-V class outside of maybe the Tuscon 1.6T/Sportage SX. All too ugly/generic/slow.

CX-7 is a complete turd reliability wise as well. I hope they make a new one though, with that 2.5T.

I want something about as refined as the G that splits the difference in speed between the G and the Rabbit.

[Lebowski]

Why no Murano/Venza? I don't like anything in that whole CR-V class outside of maybe the Tuscon 1.6T/Sportage SX. All too ugly/generic/slow.

CX-7 is a complete turd reliability wise as well. I hope they make a new one though, with that 2.5T.

I want something about as refined as the G that splits the difference in speed between the G and the Rabbit.

I just never liked the looks of the murano or venza. I hear you on the CRV class, if I'm honest something like the CRV would probably be the ideal car for my gf but I don't think I could bring myself to buy one. I think looks wise, the escape is probably my favorite in that group but I think the CRV is a better product.

[2o6]

Venza

[CALL_911]

RDX

Though I'd probably go for a CX5

[Laconian]

I hated the Venza when I drove it, though that was built with previous-generation Camry guts.

[12,000 RPM]

RDX

Though I'd probably go for a CX5

Blegh. Mazda is the right answer online, but unless it's followed by "MX-5 Miata" or "CX-9" it's the wrong answer in real life. They're not particularly roomy, they are a little expensive, and the engines suck.

[12,000 RPM]

I hated the Venza when I drove it, though that was built with previous-generation Camry guts.

What didn't you like about it? For whatever it's worth, I liked how the Genesis and Maxima drove. Not scintillating or full of feel, but dynamically competent.

[Laconian]

Are you and the missus planning on making sporty babbies anytime soon? I would probably purchase a car based on how well it takes the baby and its massive throne, which isn't easily answered by a spec sheet. Things like how wide the rear doors open, how easily cleanable the fabric is, how easy the LATCH hooks are to work with, etc. etc.

[Laconian]

What didn't you like about it? For whatever it's worth, I liked how the Genesis and Maxima drove. Not scintillating or full of feel, but dynamically competent.

Oh my god, the steering ratio was the among the worst I've ever encountered. Infinity plus one turns from lock to lock. And woefully underpowered for the heft of the car.

This was back in 2011, things are probably (?) different now.

[Laconian]

Why isn't the Outback on this list? IMO it's one of the perfect cars. Great road manners, great fuel economy (for what it is), with the lowest TCO of all the SUVs according to CR.

Are you looking at FWD SUVs or AWD only? AWD is pretty superfluous in your climate, no? FWD SUVs don't sell worth a damn in the PNW or the Rockies.

[CALL_911]

^Because it's slow

[Laconian]

Same 0-60 as the Venza I4.

[FoMoJo]

Same 0-60 as the Venza I4.

The Venza is slow.

[12,000 RPM]

I'm looking at FWD + V6 only. With DWS06s, all conditions are possible.™ Plus my new rule is more cylinders than tires. Every time I start the G I smile. So only 4s I want to deal with are in motorcycles.

As for kids, we are trying :) Not as easy as I thought it would be. Anyway I think the CR-V class would be better for kids in parking lots and shit, but these 3 have nice big back seats. Wifey has something like a 33" inseam so the extra room would be welcomed + a priority. Big thing will be how she takes to driving something so much bigger than the Rabbit.... but she drives her mom's van which is bigger than all these things no problem.

[FoMoJo]

How about a Volvo XC60 a couple of years old, I6 though.

[Laconian]

I'm looking at FWD + V6 only. With DWS06s, all conditions are possible.™ Plus my new rule is more cylinders than tires. Every time I start the G I smile. So only 4s I want to deal with are in motorcycles.

This is for your wife, though. Is the tradeoff between power and economy worth it to her? Or is she really anal retentive about NVH?

As for kids, we are trying :) Not as easy as I thought it would be.

OK. I'm not looking to pry, but knowing the timeline is important for making a recommendation.

[12,000 RPM]

Well the Rabbit gets pretty abysmal gas mileage, so she is kind of used to it. I suppose we can look at CR-Vs and the like out of due diligence. I do really like the Sportage

[veeman]

Chevy Equinox is actually a pretty nice car.  The second generation can be had with a 6 cylinder.  My father has a FWD 4 cylinder one which I like.  Not as nice as a CRV but probably can get a better
deal and they're reliable.

[68_427]

Out of these I'd go with the Venza.  It's huge inside and the width will be nice once you start putting a car seat in the rear.  Never know when you'll need to put an adult or a second one back there.

I'll also second the latest Gen Edge/MKX.  FoMoCo makes amazingly comfortable seats

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[MX793]

I had a newer Edge as a rental last winter and it was decent.  Really sporty steering.  The 2.0T, even saddled by AWD, seemed potent enough.  Wide passenger cabin as well.

[Raza]

CPO XC90 or X3?

[12,000 RPM]

CPO XC90 or X3?

No

Volvo <> reliable

328I rental turned me off from current gen BMWs. Plus X3 looks like a RAV4. Cannot unsee

I will check out the Edge. Just scared of old SYNC system and from what I remember the center stack is ugly. Just looks dated in general

[68_427]

No

Volvo <> reliable

328I rental turned me off from current gen BMWs. Plus X3 looks like a RAV4. Cannot unsee

I will check out the Edge. Just scared of old SYNC system and from what I remember the center stack is ugly. Just looks dated in general

I posted a link to one.  I'm pretty sure the 2015 has the new sync and center stack design