The male dilemma

Started by Morris Minor, May 01, 2017, 10:58:41 AM

shp4man

La Trucka (feminine) , El Carro (masculine) ...  :wtf:

FoMoJo

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Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 01, 2017, 02:20:14 PM
More like we want the truck to reflect our own self image, while the sports car is more often an emblem of the that which we desire.
Quote from: giant_mtb on May 01, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
I think that's the essence of the "argument" here.  It's one thing to lust for a sexy car (Pininfarina), but it's another to want a tough, manly-styled vehicle (like an SUV).  Depends on the application.  I don't want my truck to be sexy, and I don't want my sports car to be boxy and manly.
That doesn't exactly explain why my wife always wanted to get a Hummer H2...

...and I hate how they look.
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giant_mtb

Nothing could ever explain why anyone would ever want a Hummer H2. :lol:

FoMoJo

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 01, 2017, 02:28:18 PM
Nothing could ever explain why anyone would ever want a Hummer H2. :lol:
Good point.
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MX793

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
That doesn't exactly explain why my wife always wanted to get a Hummer H2...

...and I hate how they look.

A vehicle appearing "masculine" doesn't mean it appeals primarily to men.  It just means it gives off a tough,  powerful, broad-shouldered, imposing visual impression.  I suspect there are many women that prefer their truck/SUV look tough and rugged as opposed to soft and unimposing.  Most crossovers today don't have the tough, utilitarian visage of a traditional truck.  They have the softer, more rounded shape of a car.  They look like hatchbacks or station wagons swollen by an allergic reaction.
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Morris Minor

Quote from: MX793 on May 01, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
A vehicle appearing "masculine" doesn't mean it appeals primarily to men.  It just means it gives off a tough,  powerful, broad-shouldered, imposing visual impression.  I suspect there are many women that prefer their truck/SUV look tough and rugged as opposed to soft and unimposing.  Most crossovers today don't have the tough, utilitarian visage of a traditional truck.  They have the softer, more rounded shape of a car.  They look like hatchbacks or station wagons swollen by an allergic reaction.
:hesaid:  You said it better than I.
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68_427

I know it's fullsize but I dig the Durango in Bruiser Gray with red interior




A SRT in this combo would be killer
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i was sat at home drinking brake fluid when wife ring
'racecar is die'
no


FoMoJo

Anyways, other than the Edge, which is kind of boxy, but has a lot of desirable features, especially the Sport model with the 2.7 L EcoBoost engine (315 Horsepower And 350 lb.-ft. Of Torque), I can strongly recommend the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE.  It may be a little more expensive than some of the other choices, but comes with some rather nice features.  As well, I find the appearance quite pleasing, rather a good blend of attractiveness with a slight touch of manliness and just a hint of elegance.

"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

Soup DeVille

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
That doesn't exactly explain why my wife always wanted to get a Hummer H2...

...and I hate how they look.

Obviously my explanation was incredibly simplistic, but the general archetypes remain. There is a gender-conscous image to alot of design, and for various reasons.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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shp4man

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 02:56:41 PM
Anyways, other than the Edge, which is kind of boxy, but has a lot of desirable features, especially the Sport model with the 2.7 L EcoBoost engine (315 Horsepower And 350 lb.-ft. Of Torque), I can strongly recommend the Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE.  It may be a little more expensive than some of the other choices, but comes with some rather nice features.  As well, I find the appearance quite pleasing, rather a good blend of attractiveness with a slight touch of manliness and just a hint of elegance.



Does it come with one of those burled walnut shotguns and a fifth of Cognac?  :lol:

Morris Minor

Quote from: 68_427 on May 01, 2017, 02:55:49 PM
I know it's fullsize but I dig the Durango in Bruiser Gray with red interior
That color is superb - I saw it on a Wrangler and thought "Yes."
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: shp4man on May 01, 2017, 03:05:53 PM
Does it come with one of those burled walnut shotguns and a fifth of Cognac?  :lol:


Don't be crass.

It comes with a double rifle in .416 Rigby.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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12,000 RPM

Quote from: shp4man on May 01, 2017, 11:23:47 AM
Want the manly, hairy balls experience?
:mask:

PHRASING??????

Regarding OP's query..... Infinity FX, BMW/MB SUV "coupes", top trim F-Pace. Everything else will raise your estrogen to dangerous levels
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Rupert

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Rupert

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
That doesn't exactly explain why my wife always wanted to get a Hummer H2...

...and I hate how they look.

No, she just wanted a hummer.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2017, 07:49:34 PM
Real men don't give a fuck if their vehicle fulfills some popular conception of what real men should drive.

That we are attracted to certain designs over others is clear; and often times that's because of the images we associate with certain qualities.

It need not be as simple or as crass as what looks "gay" or what vehicles lead to tiny penis jokes, but at some level it is about image.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on May 01, 2017, 07:53:04 PM
That we are attracted to certain designs over others is clear; and often times that's because of the images we associate with certain qualities.

It need not be as simple or as crass as what looks "gay" or what vehicles lead to tiny penis jokes, but at some level it is about image.
I have what I can only describe as a perverse attraction to Rat Rods.  The rattier the better.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
I have what I can only describe as a perverse attraction to Rat Rods.  The rattier the better.

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Rupert

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
I have what I can only describe as a perverse attraction to Rat Rods.  The rattier the better.

What does your wife think of these ratty rods, and is this related to her desire for a hummer?

Sorry, sorry, I'll stop. :lol:
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 01, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
I have what I can only describe as a perverse attraction to Rat Rods.  The rattier the better.


This I approve of.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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FoMoJo

Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2017, 07:49:52 PM
No, she just wanted a hummer.
Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2017, 08:25:43 PM
What does your wife think of these ratty rods, and is this related to her desire for a hummer?

Sorry, sorry, I'll stop. :lol:
It must be getting really lonely for you, out there in the middle of nowhere. :(
"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

Rupert

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Morris Minor

Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2017, 07:49:34 PM
Real men don't give a fuck if their vehicle fulfills some popular conception of what real men should drive.
Yeah I know I shouldn't, I feel guilty. But most mainstream 2-row SUVs are at, or close to, mom-mobiles image-wise. I am not self-conscious driving my wife's car -  comfortable with that, maybe because it is so far-out frivolous - and the G37 is hirstute-nutsack.

But I need a reasonably-priced common sense 2-row SUV. I need a mom-mobile. Try loading 20 bags of mulch in the back of a G37.
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Morris Minor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 01, 2017, 06:22:07 PM
:mask:

PHRASING??????

Regarding OP's query..... Infinity FX, BMW/MB SUV "coupes", top trim F-Pace. Everything else will raise your estrogen to dangerous levels

Hmm QX50 might do it - not going to fall apart.
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shp4man

Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2017, 07:49:34 PM
Real men don't give a fuck if their vehicle fulfills some popular conception of what real men should drive.

Ya? So you'd be OK with tooling around in this?    :lol:


MX793

Quote from: shp4man on May 02, 2017, 10:19:08 AM
Ya? So you'd be OK with tooling around in this?    :lol:



Is the "glitter lady" personalized plate part of the package?
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Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Morris Minor

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