Cheap Porsche Ownership

[cawimmer430]

It's possible!

What is this I am hearing in the first video? The Cayenne was running poorly because someone had sabotaged it in order to get a cheaper buying price. According to Hoovie this practice is "pretty common" - WTF!? 


www.youtube.com/watch?v=icFmVEidCis


www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIldkaiE6F4

[r0tor]

If I had courage and gross levels of dispensible income - I'd be all over a 2nd gen GTS

[shp4man]

It's actually scary how much vintage Porsches are bringing these days. Even the 914 is getting pricey.

[GoCougs]

Jesus, those vids are unwatchable. So annoying.

The sabotage thing was bogus.

[cawimmer430]

Jesus, those vids are unwatchable. So annoying.

The sabotage thing was bogus.

I actually think this is one of the few objective and fun reviewers out there. I also like his videos about the cars he buys, fixes up and sells. Check out this video about a 1970s Lincoln Coupe and a Honda/Acura NSX!

[giant_mtb]

Based on the thumbnails, I have zero interest in anything this guy has to say.

[68_427]

Can't stand Hoovie

[Rupert]

It's actually scary how much vintage Porsches are bringing these days. Even the 914 is getting pricey.

I'm all for it; I would love to get back what I put into the 944 eventually.

[cawimmer430]

Why don't you guys like Hoovie?

I don't like Doug DeMuro, Vehicle Virgins and pretty much most of these car reviewers who get into some boring family sedan / economy car and immediately complain about the lack of power, handling and fun...

Chris Harris and Hoovie are some of the few car reviewers who in my opinion are objective. Ok, Hoovie isn't a car reviewer, but I like the way he reviews cars. He never complained about the handling or "lack of fun" when he reviewed his 1970s Lincoln coupe for example. Others would have been bitching about the boaty and floaty drive etc.

[68_427]

I'm too millennial to be entertained by hoovie

[cawimmer430]

I'm too millennial to be entertained by hoovie

His videos are cheesy, but his cheerful personality has to count for something!

[Rupert]

Doug DeMuro is a twat.

[cawimmer430]

Doug DeMuro is a twat.

[Cookie Monster]

Doug DeMuro is a twat.

I cringe so hard whenever he leans on someone's nice expensive car. I don't really even care about paint that much but shit try to respect other's property.

[MrH]

So much hate here for Doug. I actually like him. Goofy guy but comes across pretty authentic and honest. He's just a dorky guy trying to have fun.

[12,000 RPM]

The 'SPIN seems to be on its collective period this week. Hoovie is OK with me, weak chin and all. He's got money and a family, so I think a lot of his dorkiness is an act.

[SVT_Power]

The 'SPIN seems to be on its collective period this week. Hoovie is OK with me, weak chin and all. He's got money and a family, so I think a lot of his dorkiness is an act.

Are you implying if you're dorky, you can't have money or family?

[12,000 RPM]

Are you implying if you're dorky, you can't have money or family?

He doesn't come across as "Silicon Valley" dorky. Just regular dorky

[r0tor]

I'm bored of watching people do car reviews and the only thing that qualifies them as an "enthusiast" is their bank account.

[12,000 RPM]

I'm bored of watching people do car reviews and the only thing that qualifies them as an "enthusiast" is their bank account.

Then don't watch them Unless you're that hard pressed to find something to whine about.

Plus a lot of the "qualified" reviewers are just paid shills.

[BimmerM3]

I don't really watch many online reviews to begin with, but the one time I tried to watch one of Demuro's videos I got bored after like 30 seconds and turned it off.

[cawimmer430]

The charisma of the "reviewer" (professional or not) is important. They need to come across as friendly, charming and also [technically] educated about cars.

Doug D. is a competent reviewer, but he comes across as a little annoying often times. Vehicle Virgins are way too serious, like no humor; none. Shmee150 comes across as spoiled and annoying. The list goes on...

I really can't stand arrogant types who get into cars and then act as if they know the target market for a particular car. It's especially amusing (and annoying) when they bitch about something that doesn't matter - blazing performance in an economy car for example. Nobody interested in say a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage cares about smoking tires or 1/4 mile times.

Chris Harris is a great all-round package. And so is Hoovie - at least for me. I mean this is the guy who put in a manual transmission into a 300SD Turbodiesel and explained in great and friendly detail how he did it. I was glued to that video because of the way he presented it - and I for one would never want a manual transmission in any W126 S-Class (just does not suit the character of the car).

In the end it's really all subjective. I can make it through a Doug DeMuro video, learn something new, but I don't have to enjoy it... 

[12,000 RPM]

I really can't stand arrogant types who get into cars and then act as if they know the target market for a particular car. It's especially amusing (and annoying) when they bitch about something that doesn't matter - blazing performance in an economy car for example. Nobody interested in say a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage cares about smoking tires or 1/4 mile times.

Certain things matter to certain audiences. This is why Chris Harris will never review something like that Mirage.

[GoCougs]

So much hate here for Doug. I actually like him. Goofy guy but comes across pretty authentic and honest. He's just a dorky guy trying to have fun.

He's a huge mouth breather - when he's not talking his mouth just hangs open. Bugs the jesus out of me.

Also, he looks 40+ but turns out he's only like 29...

[cawimmer430]

Certain things matter to certain audiences. This is why Chris Harris will never review something like that Mirage.

But if he did review one he would at least be objective about it. He wouldn't criticize its power shortcomings or its miserable handling.

Have you seen his review about his very own Citroen 2CV? It was refreshing to hear him speak of that car in a completely objective manner. And although he owned the car, his review didn't come across as biased at all. It came across as very passionate but also objective.

[MX793]

Why don't you guys like Hoovie?

I don't like Doug DeMuro, Vehicle Virgins and pretty much most of these car reviewers who get into some boring family sedan / economy car and immediately complain about the lack of power, handling and fun...

Chris Harris and Hoovie are some of the few car reviewers who in my opinion are objective. Ok, Hoovie isn't a car reviewer, but I like the way he reviews cars. He never complained about the handling or "lack of fun" when he reviewed his 1970s Lincoln coupe for example. Others would have been bitching about the boaty and floaty drive etc.

I can't say I've seen many of the "notable" online car reviewers review a family or econo car and complain because it's slower than a performance car. 

For starters, I've never seen DeMuro review a family or econo car, and a quick glimpse at his channel shows that outside of trucks/SUVs (most of the ones he's reviewed aren't exactly mainstream mom-mobiles), practically everything he's reviewed is a performance car.

[MrH]

He's a huge mouth breather - when he's not talking his mouth just hangs open. Bugs the jesus out of me.

Also, he looks 40+ but turns out he's only like 29...

He's only 29? now I feel kind of bad for him.

Mouth breather or not, give me Doug DeMuro over someone like Tavarish any day.

[MX793]

But if he did review one he would at least be objective about it. He wouldn't criticize its power shortcomings or its miserable handling.

Have you seen his review about his very own Citroen 2CV? It was refreshing to hear him speak of that car in a completely objective manner. And although he owned the car, his review didn't come across as biased at all. It came across as very passionate but also objective.

Sure he would.  The Mirage gets criticized not because it's simply slow or handles poorly, but because it's significantly slower and worse handling than its chief competitors (Fiesta, Yaris, Rio, Accent, Spark, Fit), none of which are particularly fast cars.  There are expectations that cars within a certain price point should deliver a certain level of content (creature comforts) and performance.  The Mirage is outside of the target.

No one is going to get in a 2CV and rip it apart for being a slow car for the same reason no one would get in a Model T or original VW Type I Beetle and trash them for being slow.  They were cars designed and built for a very different time (a time when all cars were much slower than today) and cars that were, in their own ways, innovative or ground-breaking or historically significant.  There is nothing innovative, ground-breaking, or historically significant about the latest Mirage.  It's simply a cheap, slow, ill-driving economy car that is significantly worse than other cars that cost the same money.

[12,000 RPM]

But if he did review one he would at least be objective about it. He wouldn't criticize its power shortcomings or its miserable handling.

Have you seen his review about his very own Citroen 2CV? It was refreshing to hear him speak of that car in a completely objective manner. And although he owned the car, his review didn't come across as biased at all. It came across as very passionate but also objective.

Again, who are these reviewers dumping on the Mirage for not being a track beast? I feel like you make these "reviewers" up.

[r0tor]

Then don't watch them Unless you're that hard pressed to find something to whine about.

Plus a lot of the "qualified" reviewers are just paid shills.

I don't watch them anymore... Life isn't long enough to waste another minute on the likes of schmee