GT2 RS vs Huracan Performante

Started by 68_427, June 14, 2017, 10:06:55 PM

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No idea which one I'd take.  Probably the Lamborghini as it sounds like the more emotional machine.  I'm sure the GT2 RS would put a hurt on it in a straight line, and possibly be quicker in the hands of only a few, but the Lambo sounds more user friendly and thus is probably more enjoyable on the road as well. 
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Quote from: BimmerM3 on June 14, 2017, 10:14:09 PM
TL;DR?

It's not an actual direct comparison.  Just asking which y'all like better.  Two different path to the same destination.
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GoCougs

GT2 RS for me most likely. Don't like turbos but seems Porsche has its act together when it comes to hi-po machines, and Lambos are more for stats and show.

Plus, I really like it when mags have summary tables of stats. Euro mags don't seem to do this and it drives me nuts.

r0tor

The Porsche is the real deal. The Lambo is the equivalent of a pair of fake boobs on a stripper.
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Xer0

Lambo.  Looks way better and I'm assuming sounds way better too.

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The Lambo is the real deal. The Porsche is the equivalent of a pair of fake boobs on a stripper.

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Quote from: Rockraven on June 15, 2017, 09:10:14 AM
The Lambo is the real deal. The Porsche is the equivalent of a pair of fake boobs on a stripper.

Nah, after 1 or 2 rides in the Lambo all of its real world issues will force you to run away.
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Quote from: r0tor on June 15, 2017, 10:52:26 AM
Nah, after 1 or 2 rides in the Lambo all of its real world issues will force you to run away.

What issues?

GoCougs

Quote from: Rockraven on June 15, 2017, 09:10:14 AM
The Lambo is the real deal. The Porsche is the equivalent of a pair of fake boobs on a stripper.

Porsche's racing legacy is infinitely beyond Lamborghini's, and the GT2 dates back ~25 years. If there's a poser here, it'll never be Porsche.

CaminoRacer

Porsche seems to mature and adult-like when placed next to a Lamborghini (or similar).
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I am bummed that the GT2 RS is pdk...
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 15, 2017, 06:48:02 PM
I am bummed that the GT2 RS is pdk...

~4.0L and ~650 hp is gonna be a lot of lag, and current anti-lag systems, like that in the Ford GT, need control over shifting. 

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My vote is for the GT2 RS.  Lambos aren't for me.
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Quote from: GoCougs on June 16, 2017, 12:01:58 AM
~4.0L and ~650 hp is gonna be a lot of lag, and current anti-lag systems, like that in the Ford GT, need control over shifting. 

Porsche's anti-lag system simply holds the throttle plate open so that the engine keeps pumping air (and therefore air is still moving through the turbine) even when the accelerator pedal is released.  This system would work fine with a regular MT.  Anti-lag also isn't designed just to prevent lag between shifts.  It prevents lag any time the driver lets off of the accelerator and then gets on it again, which includes constant-gear scenarios (meaning that the system must inherently be independent of the transmission).

This, like the Ford GT, is clutchless because that will net the best performance and because it's such a low volume, niche product that it doesn't make sense to invest in offering/building it with more than one transmission, particularly since the majority of buyers will opt for the one without the clutch pedal anyway.
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I always thought the GT2 was less about outright performance and track times and more about trying to kill you. Weren't the older ones considered to be widowmakers?

Something batshit crazy that takes 110% of your focus and skill seems more fitting to the GT2 name and a manual would suit that a lot better IMO.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Quote from: MX793 on June 16, 2017, 10:51:36 AM
Porsche's anti-lag system simply holds the throttle plate open so that the engine keeps pumping air (and therefore air is still moving through the turbine) even when the accelerator pedal is released.  This system would work fine with a regular MT.  Anti-lag also isn't designed just to prevent lag between shifts.  It prevents lag any time the driver lets off of the accelerator and then gets on it again, which includes constant-gear scenarios (meaning that the system must inherently be independent of the transmission).

This, like the Ford GT, is clutchless because that will net the best performance and because it's such a low volume, niche product that it doesn't make sense to invest in offering/building it with more than one transmission, particularly since the majority of buyers will opt for the one without the clutch pedal anyway.

Antilag would never work with M/T (or at least not be worth it), and thus why Porsche doesn't do it. The ECU needs control over shifting (and knowledge of what shift is coming) to make it effective.

This and the Ford GT and any other ultra-po turbo car is DSG because M/T and big boost = lots of lag and hi-po car design is integrated so as to be virtually impossible to provide an F488 or 570S or 911TT or GTR or NSX or the like with M/T as they'd be fundamentally different cars.

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Quote from: GoCougs on June 16, 2017, 12:43:08 PM
Antilag would never work with M/T (or at least not be worth it)

Explain.
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Quote from: Cookie Monster on June 16, 2017, 12:00:26 PM
I always thought the GT2 was less about outright performance and track times and more about trying to kill you. Weren't the older ones considered to be widowmakers?

Something batshit crazy that takes 110% of your focus and skill seems more fitting to the GT2 name and a manual would suit that a lot better IMO.

The head of the GT program has stated that the RS cars are about out right track speed.  Hence the PDK only in the GT2/3 RS
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Quote from: GoCougs on June 14, 2017, 11:19:02 PM
GT2 RS for me most likely. Don't like turbos but seems Porsche has its act together when it comes to hi-po machines, and Lambos are more for stats and show.

Plus, I really like it when mags have summary tables of stats. Euro mags don't seem to do this and it drives me nuts.
Lambos for stats and show? And a ~700HP DCT 911 isn't :confused:

I like the V10 tone and the active aero is a cool trick. I imagine the Lambo will have better throttle response and weighs less too. No brainer for me.
Quote from: GoCougs on June 16, 2017, 12:43:08 PM
Antilag would never work with M/T (or at least not be worth it)
Then why have WRC cars with manual transmissions been using it for over 20 years :confused:

Why would an automatic/DCT car need an anti-lag system more than a manual one? There's little to no interruption of power; the turbo stays spooled as long as you're in WOT :wtf:
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 16, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
Lambos for stats and show? And a ~700HP DCT 911 isn't :confused:

I like the V10 tone and the active aero is a cool trick. I imagine the Lambo will have better throttle response and weighs less too.

Nah the Lambo will be 3400lbs probably
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 16, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
Lambos for stats and show? And a ~700HP DCT 911 isn't :confused:



Every time I see a Lambo owner try to park their car, it always involves at least 1 spotter and shit tons of drama... The cars are completely for show and posters
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Quote from: r0tor on June 18, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
Every time I see a Lambo owner try to park their car, it always involves at least 1 spotter and shit tons of drama... The cars are completely for show and posters
There are that many Lambos in Middle Of Nowhere, PA? :confused:
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 03:49:57 PM
There are that many Lambos in Middle Of Nowhere, PA? :confused:

No, just one.  Driven by somebody who can't park.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 18, 2017, 03:49:57 PM
There are that many Lambos in Middle Of Nowhere, PA? :confused:

A few come out to Cars and Coffee and look like idiots.  Saw a new hurrican yesterday at a dunkin donuts.  Watched him amazingly reverse into a parking spot, only to park about 4 feet to shallow and let his car hang out into the parking lot...

One dude in an Aventador at at cars and coffee literally took 15 min to back into a space and had about 10 people guiding him and keeping people back.  Total cluster fuck. Meanwhile, 20 feet away a dude pulls in with a GT3RS, easily parks like its an average grocery getter,  and him and his kid pop out and enjoy the show while the Lambo douche was still trying to park.
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Lambo for me. To hell with the numbers! When a fine honey finds out I drive a Lamborghini the panties will fall quicker............
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Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on June 18, 2017, 08:03:24 PM
Lambo for me. To hell with the numbers! When a fine honey finds out I drive a Lamborghini the panties will fall quicker............
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Quote from: r0tor on June 18, 2017, 07:56:22 PM
A few come out to Cars and Coffee and look like idiots.  Saw a new hurrican yesterday at a dunkin donuts.  Watched him amazingly reverse into a parking spot, only to park about 4 feet to shallow and let his car hang out into the parking lot...

One dude in an Aventador at at cars and coffee literally took 15 min to back into a space and had about 10 people guiding him and keeping people back.  Total cluster fuck. Meanwhile, 20 feet away a dude pulls in with a GT3RS, easily parks like its an average grocery getter,  and him and his kid pop out and enjoy the show while the Lambo douche was still trying to park.
My gut feeling is jealousy.... 10 people would not help you park your RX-8.... but I could be wrong.

Lambos are events for people.... I don't see the harm in this spectacle as long as it's not hurting anybody.
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r0tor

I don't need people to help me park - Or want any.  Lambo owners in general look absolutely ridiculous trying to perform basic real world driving tasks like parking your car. 

911s don't require that attention.  They are meant to actually be driven.  Lambos are meant to be looked at.
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