Cars that suck

[Soup DeVille]

Oops I meant long block.

I'll grudgingly believe that too. Neither are really what I think of when one says "crate engine" though.

[SJ_GTI]

thought of another. I had a Hyundai Sonata as a rental (>10 years ago) that was worse than the Altima. I had forgotten about it because the newer ones are so much nicer. I remember the seat (or seating position) was just so bad I could not get comfortable. IIRC it had a V6 thought so it could scoot along ok, but wasn't particularly fast.

[FoMoJo]

I really wanted to like the Smart when it came out; but somehow it failed to do any of the things I wanted from a small car (like being good on gas, or affordable)

Besides, anyone driving one looks, oddly, like an adult sitting in a baby carriage. 

[2o6]

I forgot I made this thread.

[giant_mtb]

I forgot I made this thread.

Should probably change the OP from "tipsy" to "fucked uuuuuuup."

[Laconian]

New Chrysler 200. Inexcusable visibility, garbage transmission that thumped into gear, and the rotary shifter knob...

First generation Saturn VUE with the POS GM four. Couldn't track straight. Chevrolet Cobalt too, also couldn't stay in its lane. Maybe it's Magnetsteer MCMXVII that ruined these cars? Or was it the Kappa Delta Theta platform?

[Laconian]

I forgot I made this thread.

Wow

[2o6]

New Chrysler 200. Inexcusable visibility, garbage transmission that thumped into gear, and the rotary shifter knob...

First generation Saturn VUE with the POS GM four. Couldn't track straight. Chevrolet Cobalt too, also couldn't stay in its lane. Maybe it's Magnetsteer MCMXVII that ruined these cars? Or was it the Kappa Delta Theta platform?

Astra is on same platform, it doesn't do that.

[2o6]

My nomination is the new Mirage


- half-baked design; the design looks like it was finalized in 1999, and they forgot they did a whole ass car and just put it in the microwave for it to reheat and sell to us in 2014

- the steering is vague with a big on-center dead spot

- the manual transmission feels low quality

- the car is very slow

- all of the addon features (Bluetooth, backup camera, apple carplay) feel tacked on as shit.

[2o6]

New Nissan Sentra


- Bad steering

- ugly as shit

- rides like a worn-out serta mattress

- slow as shit

- shit interior

This piece of garbage. Had one as a rental for a week, it had zero redeeming qualities

Seconded. The Aveo vs Sonic is such a huge jump. The Aveo got no MPG, was slow, ugly, and had clumsy handling for what should be a manageable small car.

[12,000 RPM]

SBC long block. Fairly large crate

[Soup DeVille]

Someone doesn't know what "long block" means. Those are turn key engines.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mll-ps4272ct?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-blueprint-engines&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy5WEn-251wIVGrbACh1XVwDTEAQYAyABEgJp2fD_BwE

[12,000 RPM]

Someone doesn't know what "long block" means. Those are turn key engines.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mll-ps4272ct?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-blueprint-engines&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy5WEn-251wIVGrbACh1XVwDTEAQYAyABEgJp2fD_BwE

Long block  = short block + heads my friend.

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I won't say this SUCKED per se, but I am still very disappointed with the non-sport F30 328i. Interior quality was not great, and the chassis tuning was downright horrible for a BMW. Idrive also is on the bottom half of infotainment interfaces I've used; which is strange as Mazda copied it and did a way better job. Needs a sport package; my friend's 228i M-Sport is legit.

[Soup DeVille]

Long block  = short block + heads my friend.

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I won't say this SUCKED per se, but I am still very disappointed with the non-sport F30 328i. Interior quality was not great, and the chassis tuning was downright horrible for a BMW. Idrive also is on the bottom half of infotainment interfaces I've used; which is strange as Mazda copied it and did a way better job. Needs a sport package; my friend's 228i M-Sport is legit.

Yeah, what you showed has a lot more than just heads on it, donnit?

[CaminoRacer]

-picture-

What's the confused smiley for? Saying that's it's not that big, or confused at how it fit into the car?

[CaminoRacer]

Yeah, what you showed has a lot more than just heads on it, donnit?

Outside dimensions aren't much larger, though. The pulleys increase the length, but the intake isn't much taller than the valve covers on that engine.

[12,000 RPM]

What's the confused smiley for? Saying that's it's not that big, or confused at how it fit into the car?

SBCs are small

[CaminoRacer]

SBCs are small

Are SBCs small, or are I4s and V6s fat?

[FoMoJo]

I fit a crate engine (in the crate) into the back of one. I'd say that cargo space is acceptable

Was it a panel?

[CaminoRacer]

Was it a panel?

Nah, just a normal rental one.

[MrH]

So my friend married this girl who I'm friends with. Her dad was a big time plant manager for Chrysler. So he's got some awesome cars. Had a viper gts, 1970 challenger in plum purple, cls63 amg, Plymouth sport fury, etc.

Unfortunately the side effect is that his kids all buy FCA cars too. And unfortunately at the budget end, they make some total shit.

She has a dodge nitro which may be the worst car I've ever experienced. The son in law, my friend, just bought a Chrysler 200 kills me.

[giant_mtb]

Remember when sporty thought a 200 would be a good idea. lol

[Soup DeVille]

The Nitro is pretty crappy, but a bit better than the Caliber.

[CALL_911]

There are a couple I can recall, but one especially bad one was a Fiat 500L we rented in Italy. It had the SMT, a transmission I'm amazed an engineer signed off on. Gigantic, gigantic piece of shit and ugly too.

I say we rename this the FCA thread. They currently make the biggest pieces of shit on the road by lightyears.

[giant_mtb]

Haven't they always?  Or at least during this century and slightly before?