Jeep Wrangler JL

Started by giant_mtb, December 06, 2017, 11:34:09 AM

giant_mtb

New Wrangler.  Subtle exterior tweaks (front end, tail lights, hood latches).  Available 2.0L turbo and 8-spd auto, Pentastar and diesel also available.  Same ol' Wrangler offroad prowess.  Supposedly can shove 35s under it with no lift.  Power-operated soft top on certain models!

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a12484088/2018-jeep-wrangler-jl-truck-release-date-info-news/

e-brochure: https://www.jeep.com/content/dam/fca-brands/na/jeep/en_us/global/pdf/brochure/Jeep-Wrangler-(JL)-Reveal-Brochure-(2018).pdf







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCGI671m9oQ





shp4man

I've always liked those 4-door ones. May be my favorite late model vehicle.  :ohyeah:

CaminoRacer

2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

12,000 RPM

This is a big deal

I still don't understand these as daily drivers but I look forward to reading reviews.

Hopefully they bring back the Renegade :muffin:
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Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 06, 2017, 05:38:58 PM
Wait, what changed?
What happened is they slapped some new bumpers (Circa aftermarket 2013), LED Headlights (Circa 2015) and New fenders (Circa 1995) on and called it new......
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

CaminoRacer

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on December 06, 2017, 11:54:02 PM
What happened is they slapped some new bumpers (Circa aftermarket 2013), LED Headlights (Circa 2015) and New fenders (Circa 1995) on and called it new......

Sounds right!
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

giant_mtb

The best amount of change for the Wrangler is the least amount of change.

Payman

It's a bumper to bumper overhaul. Like a 911, the general design isn't going to change much. I really like the new interior. The model I'm most interested in is the Scrambler pickup.


veeman

https://www.caranddriver.com/photo-gallery/2018-jeep-wrangler-an-all-new-version-of-an-icon-official-photos-and-info-gallery#1

Also push button start and back-up camera are standard.  Option of LED headlights.  Can even get a full time AWD version.  Also lighter due to more aluminum use.

It's a win all around.

The pick-up version should be offered in 2019. 

giant_mtb

#9
The ends of the front bumper can be easily removed for zero obstruction in front of the tire.  There are built-in bolt slots to keep the hardware from the doors/windshield/etc so it doesn't get lost.  Wannnnnnnt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLj9D4vo56Q



Xer0

This thing is getting bigger and bigger.  Will there eventually be room for a mini Wrangler?

giant_mtb

Eh, a 2-door is still fairly compact.

But yeah, eventually!  I think they call it the Cherokee right now. :lol:

CaminoRacer

I used to like the 4 door but I'd get an old flat fender if I was shopping for a Wrangler now.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Rupert

Quote from: Rockraven on December 07, 2017, 05:52:19 AM
It's a bumper to bumper overhaul. Like a 911, the general design isn't going to change much. I really like the new interior. The model I'm most interested in is the Scrambler pickup.



Huh, that's about the only interesting Wrangler thing I've ever seen.
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CaminoRacer

I've seen two of the new Wranglers on the road this week. I'm not a fan of the updated front end. The LED strips on the fenders make it look like it has eyelash extensions or something.

2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Payman

I'd post what lesser SUV's remind me of, but vadge pics aren't allowed.

CaminoRacer

https://jalopnik.com/holy-crap-the-jeep-wrangler-is-nearly-outselling-the-to-1825738359

Quote
Whether the Wrangler's recent sales trends will continue, it's hard to know. The JK's assembly line is being re-tooled to produce a new Jeep truck after the outgoing Wrangler ceased production last Friday, so the JL will have to rake in the sales all on its lonesome.

Still, despite the JK's departure, it wouldn't be surprising if the Wrangler's streak continued; one of the major factors holding back sales of the outgoing JK model was Jeep's inability to build enough of the things to meet demand. In 2016, Jeep announced that it was investing $350 million to move the Jeep Cherokee from Toledo (where the Wrangler is built) to the Belvidere Assembly Plant in Illinois. On top of that, the brand said it was dropping $700 million into the Toledo Assembly Complex to "retool the North plant to produce the next generation Jeep Wrangler."

So yes, the Wrangler sold at numbers on par with the Toyota Camry this month because the JK and JL were both available for 2018; but one of the bigger factors than there being two Wranglers is the fact that Jeep may finally have the manufacturing capacity to meet demand, and that means the JL's streak may continue for quite some time.
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Laconian

Quote from: Rockraven on April 18, 2018, 11:28:42 AM
I'd post what lesser SUV's remind me of, but vadge pics aren't allowed.
ROFL
Kia EV6 GT-Line / MX-5 RF 6MT

Rich

I can't believe that this thing came within a few units of outselling the Camry. That's nuts
2003 Mazda Miata 5MT; 2005 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport 4AT

Xer0

How long until Chrysler is only selling a minivan, the RAM, and the Wrangler?

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: Rich on May 03, 2018, 12:41:07 PM
I can't believe that this thing came within a few units of outselling the Camry. That's nuts
Yeah! But these things are pretty cheap compared to some of these midsized sedans, CUVs and SUVs....
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

93JC

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on May 03, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
Yeah! But these things are pretty cheap compared to some of these midsized sedans, CUVs and SUVs....

:confused:

Here a base-model 'Sport', two-door, is $34,000. A four-door is almost $42,000. Feature-for-feature they're waaaaay more expensive than the average cute-ute or Camry.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 93JC on May 03, 2018, 04:17:47 PM
:confused:

Here a base-model 'Sport', two-door, is $34,000. A four-door is almost $42,000. Feature-for-feature they're waaaaay more expensive than the average cute-ute or Camry.
The new ones start at 27K here. Leftover JKs start at 23K.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C6 on May 03, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
Yeah! But these things are pretty cheap compared to some of these midsized sedans, CUVs and SUVs....
It's not the price, it's the image. They literally go crazy for them down here.
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 03, 2018, 07:10:09 PM
It's not the price, it's the image. They literally go crazy for them down here.

I look at prices once in a while, would make a good convertible that you can take into the woods.

But holy grillsmoke, batman!! They're always way over-priced. Even with bad rep for longevity everyone wants them.
Will

12,000 RPM

FCA should take its buyers for every last penny. They need them
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CaminoRacer

Might as well buy a brand new one, cuz the used ones are just as expensive
2020 BMW 330i, 1969 El Camino, 2017 Bolt EV

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 03, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
Might as well buy a brand new one, cuz the used ones are just as expensive
This is true.....
2014 C7 Vert, 2002 Silverado, 2005 Road Glide

r0tor

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 03, 2018, 10:00:02 PM
Might as well buy a brand new one, cuz the used ones are just as expensive

... and then like a Harley, your required to spend at least 1/3 the value of the thing on useless accessories
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

Payman

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on May 03, 2018, 07:16:59 PM
I look at prices once in a while, would make a good convertible that you can take into the woods.

But holy grillsmoke, batman!! They're always way over-priced. Even with bad rep for longevity everyone wants them.

Bad rep for longevity? The average one I see on the road is 15-20+ years old.