2o6 Review - Toyota C-HR

[2o6]

I wouldn't be a good millennial if I didn't trade in my sensible hatchback for a slow, expensive SUV.


+ it's super cool looking, definitely striking and sexy

+ Toyota was offering a very good lease deal, $199 month with like $1999 down

+ the interior is well finished and feels high quality

+ the steering is much better than most modern Toyota products I've driven

+ it corners fairly flat for being a tall SUV type thing

+ driving position and interior legroom is pretty good

+ standard radar cruise and lane keep assist is nifty

- it's slow as dirt. This 2.0L only makes 6HP more than the 1.4T in my Sonic, but it weighs 700Lbs more

- this thing stickered at like 24k. Granted, you get a lot, but that's past loaded out Corolla and base Camry territory

- CVT auto only

- no AWD vairiant avaliable

- rearward visibility is awful

- no Apple CarPlay or android auto

- slow

- bouncy ride, despite having a more sophisticated suspension setup than my Sonic and weighing more

- expensive

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[r0tor]

Trying to figure out the appeal... Failing

[Submariner]

Looks nice inside and out, but I'm surprised that AWD isn't an option.

[2o6]

Trying to figure out the appeal... Failing

It's an HR-V type thing, but no AWD and more expensive. Despite it's slowness, with a manual I prolly would have bought one.

Looks nice inside and out, but I'm surprised that AWD isn't an option.

That's a good question. Toyota says that US consumers don't care, but I think that's a lie. AWD comes on this car in other markets (but with a 1.2L Turbo with like 115HP).

[r0tor]

It seems to me to be a slow, poor handling, no room, and no AWD hatch thing that is selling for a relatively high price... Basically combining the worst properties of small hatches, econo boxes, and poser cuvs into 1 ultimate in terrible package.

[2o6]

It seems to me to be a slow, poor handling, no room, and no AWD hatch thing that is selling for a relatively high price... Basically combining the worst properties of small hatches, econo boxes, and poser cuvs into 1 ultimate in terrible package.

But it's not bad handling. And it's spacious....


It's just missing AWD, and it's slow.

[Payman]

Looks like a bottom-feeding creature with a face 4x too big for its body. I don't see a single redeeming feature with this vehicle.

[CALL_911]

I actually like this thing. I don't think it's that ugly either.

[Xer0]

Echoing others, surprising Toyota didn't try and put AWD in this thing.  They did in the Matrix 10 years prior.

[r0tor]

Echoing others, surprising Toyota didn't try and put AWD in this thing.  They did in the Matrix 10 years prior.

Considering how useless the RAV4 awd is, it probably doesn't matter

[Xer0]

Considering how useless the RAV4 awd is, it probably doesn't matter

But to the average buyer, its very important either way.

[MX793]

Considering how useless the RAV4 awd is, it probably doesn't matter

For what the vast majority of drivers would want/use it for, it serves its purpose.  No, you're not going to go mudding or blazing trails through bumper-deep snow with it, but for negotiating slick/icy/snowy roads with a couple of inches of snow on them, it's better than just open-diff FWD.

[CaminoRacer]

I was in Park City today and an AWD CR-V struggled up a hill slightly more than I did in my FWD Mazda6.

[MX793]

I was in Park City today and an AWD CR-V struggled up a hill slightly more than I did in my FWD Mazda6.

I've out-accelerated any number of AWD vehicles in my Jetta with all-seasons on it so far this winter.

The AWD systems on a lot of those vehicles isn't great.  A good driver in a FWD could probably manage to get through most anything one of those AWDs could handle.  But most people aren't good drivers.  Most people are marginal in the driving skill department and have little grasp of throttle control and analog traction management.  For these people, a mediocre 80/20 AWD system is just that little bit of extra traction to help get up that moderately slippery hill.

[Payman]

My Karmann Ghia with studded 165 80R 15's was an unstoppable winter beast.

[MX793]

My Karmann Ghia with studded 165 80R 15's was an unstoppable winter beast.

No power, skinny wheels, and what little weight the car had focused on the drive wheels.  Yeah, I'd believe that.

[Submariner]

Jesus Christ...

[Payman]

No power, skinny wheels, and what little weight the car had focused on the drive wheels.  Yeah, I'd believe that.

No shit, I've driven that thing in some pretty horrendous conditions back in Nfld.

[Payman]

Jesus Christ...

Yeah, posted that before and had a good laugh.

[Submariner]

Are you suposed to just hazard a guess what is behind you?

[CaminoRacer]

I've out-accelerated any number of AWD vehicles in my Jetta with all-seasons on it so far this winter.

The AWD systems on a lot of those vehicles isn't great.  A good driver in a FWD could probably manage to get through most anything one of those AWDs could handle.  But most people aren't good drivers.  Most people are marginal in the driving skill department and have little grasp of throttle control and analog traction management.  For these people, a mediocre 80/20 AWD system is just that little bit of extra traction to help get up that moderately slippery hill.

My strategy today was simply POWAAAARRRRR. It was mainly deep slush, so wheelspin would cut through it after a second or two. Maintaining momentum was the best strategy.

[2o6]

I actually liked the CR-V I had a few years back. The little bit of rear assist really did help in snow.

[r0tor]

For what the vast majority of drivers would want/use it for, it serves its purpose.  No, you're not going to go mudding or blazing trails through bumper-deep snow with it, but for negotiating slick/icy/snowy roads with a couple of inches of snow on them, it's better than just open-diff FWD.

Ummm.... It's can send about 15% of it's power to the rear and defaults to pretty much fwd anytime your over 20mph

Worthless awd

[MexicoCityM3]

Did you buy it or just reviewed it? I am confused.

[MX793]

Ummm.... It's can send about 15% of it's power to the rear and defaults to pretty much fwd anytime your over 20mph

Worthless awd

Once you're moving and carrying some momentum, you really don't need AWD, so that it doesn't work above 20 mph is moot for what most people buying AWD RAVs need AWD for.  People want it to help them get moving from a stop on moderately slick roads with and inch or two of snow on them.  They aren't looking to crawl through deep mud, sand, or snow.

[2o6]

Did you buy it or just reviewed it? I am confused.

Just reviewed, but the lease offer did make me think twice

[2o6]

Ummm.... It's can send about 15% of it's power to the rear and defaults to pretty much fwd anytime your over 20mph

Worthless awd

Have you actually driven a CR-V et al in the snow?

[93JC]

I forgot these Toyota CR-H/H-CR/RCH/whatever things existed. I saw one yesterday afternoon; like a Nissan Juke but even fuglier. That they don't even come with AWD is pretty much the turd cherry on top of the shit pile. Makes me think of a miniature Acura ZDX, and we all know how well those faired for Honda...

[Payman]

pretty much the turd cherry on top of the shit pile.

[2o6]

I forgot these Toyota CR-H/H-CR/RCH/whatever things existed. I saw one yesterday afternoon; like a Nissan Juke but even fuglier. That they don't even come with AWD is pretty much the turd cherry on top of the shit pile. Makes me think of a miniature Acura ZDX, and we all know how well those faired for Honda...

The ZDX was both expensive and had no rear headroom. This is expensive for it's class (like 3K over an HR-V.....) whereas the ZDX was expensive period and really tight inside.


This has real accommodations in the rear.


IDK, I think it's funky and cool 


With a manual, I might have done it.