Death of Mainstream Sedans?

Started by Morris Minor, March 28, 2018, 11:31:05 AM

giant_mtb

Equinoxes are slowly replacing Impalas as one of my most popular vehicles for detailing, it seems.  I used to joke "I could detail an Impala with my eyes closed," but that's definitely expanded to Equinoxes as well.

Just did a brand new (13k miles) one today. Feels more cramped than previous ones, but still nice. It had auto-stop/start, which I only really noticed when I tried to notice. Not sure if I've driven a vehicle with that feature, and if I have, it was long ago.

Morris Minor

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Quote from: giant_mtb on May 02, 2018, 07:11:00 PM
Equinoxes are slowly replacing Impalas as one of my most popular vehicles for detailing, it seems.  I used to joke "I could detail an Impala with my eyes closed," but that's definitely expanded to Equinoxes as well.

Just did a brand new (13k miles) one today. Feels more cramped than previous ones, but still nice. It had auto-stop/start, which I only really noticed when I tried to notice. Not sure if I've driven a vehicle with that feature, and if I have, it was long ago.
I rode several different Uber vehicles in Boston. By far my favorite, from a passenger angle, was a Traverse - Equinox's bigger brother: easy to get in & out of, plenty of room vs the sedans
It seemed like the driver (who also did Lyft) had chosen it very intelligently: not too expensive, low upkeep costs, UberXL-eligible etc.
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giant_mtb

Yeah, the second row of the Traverse is pretty spacious. Nice vehicles.

2o6

Quote from: Morris Minor on May 09, 2018, 05:29:33 AM
I rode several different Uber vehicles in Boston. By far my favorite, from a passenger angle, was a Traverse - Equinox's bigger brother: easy to get in & out of, plenty of room vs the sedans
It seemed like the driver (who also did Lyft) had chosen it very intelligently: not too expensive, low upkeep costs, UberXL-eligible etc.


Poor fuel costs tho

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I feel like that post recession stretch has inoculated Americans to high fuel costs.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: giant_mtb on May 09, 2018, 05:58:57 AM
Yeah, the second row of the Traverse is pretty spacious. Nice vehicles.

I just saw a commercial for one and they seem massive - basically the same as a Tahoe.
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giant_mtb

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 09, 2018, 10:00:22 AM
I just saw a commercial for one and they seem massive - basically the same as a Tahoe.

They are large. I put them in my middle tier for detail pricing this year, along with Tahoe, Explorer, minivans, etc.

Morris Minor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 09, 2018, 09:38:30 AM
I feel like that post recession stretch has inoculated Americans to high fuel costs.
You are right. People buy for the now.
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Laconian

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 09, 2018, 09:38:30 AM
I feel like that post recession stretch has inoculated Americans to high fuel costs.

Americans gave up saving for the future years ago. Median household savings is $5,000.
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: Laconian on May 09, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
Americans gave up saving for the future years ago. Median household savings is $5,000.

Shit, I graduated a couple of months ago and I think I'm almost to the median already.
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Xer0

Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 09, 2018, 11:36:28 AM
Shit, I graduated a couple of months ago and I think I'm almost to the median already.

:rockon:


Morris Minor

The oil supply situation has improved over recent years but any number of factors can cause the price of gas to jump. It was a factor in my deciding to go with the CR-V - it's kind of nice to have a 28mpg car that uses regular-grade vs the Infiniti that gulps premium @ around 20mpg.
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TBR

Quote from: Laconian on May 09, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
Americans gave up saving for the future years ago. Median household savings is $5,000.

Are loan balances (e.g. mortgages) netted out against that? I hope so, otherwise that's pretty catastrophic

MX793

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Quote from: TBR on May 10, 2018, 01:33:21 AM
Are loan balances (e.g. mortgages) netted out against that? I hope so, otherwise that's pretty catastrophic

Savings, not net worth.  I believe that figure comes from a survey asking people how much money they have in savings or retirement accounts.

EDIT:  Found another report from the Federal reserve.  MEDIAN savings account balance was just over $5K in 2017.  Average was actually around $33K, so a wealthier minority is pretty heavily skewing the average upwards.  The surveys actually indicate things are worse, with savings for many at under $2K.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: TBR on May 10, 2018, 01:33:21 AM
Are loan balances (e.g. mortgages) netted out against that? I hope so, otherwise that's pretty catastrophic

No, they aren't.
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Quote from: giant_mtb on May 09, 2018, 05:58:57 AM
Yeah, the second row of the Traverse is pretty spacious. Nice vehicles.

Real PeopleTM love it. 
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