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Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 03:48:56 PM
I'm going to look it up but I was wondering if anyone knew off the top of their head?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 20, 2005, 04:05:19 PM
Where's Dave when ya need him! ^_^
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: ifcar on July 20, 2005, 04:08:12 PM
The 750Li has modified exterior and interior styling, a recalibrated suspension, an improved iDrive system, and a larger engine.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 04:23:19 PM
QuoteThe 750Li has modified exterior and interior styling, a recalibrated suspension, an improved iDrive system, and a larger engine.
Thanks Iffy.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 07:54:32 PM
QuoteThe 750Li has modified exterior and interior styling, a recalibrated suspension, an improved iDrive system, and a larger engine.
Thats basically it.  There are also more wheel choices, I believe.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 08:39:35 PM
Quote
QuoteThe 750Li has modified exterior and interior styling, a recalibrated suspension, an improved iDrive system, and a larger engine.
Thats basically it.  There are also more wheel choices, I believe.
A good friend of mine, another Allstate agent, came by today in one he just bought.  It was a buyback in Miami with 35k miles on it and loaded out, he paid 55k for it and said they had 20 more just like it on their lot.  It was a 03 745Li, the car really impressed me when I took it for a spin.  I've never driven a 7 series before but I really enjoyed it and boy was it comfortable.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 09:18:00 PM
Thinking about adding to the stable?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 09:46:35 PM
I'm kind of pissed with the RR deal, now they are telling me I can't get orange for a few months and that's not even for certain.  I need something new and just don't have any idea what I want.  I have a truck to pull, the wife drives the 230 sport but is wanting eitheir a s-type or Eseries CDI in about 6 months.  I don't drive the Skylines but on the weekend a bit.  I was contemplating picking up on a good deal on a larger luxo sedan.  I really don't have a clue but I have some spare change burning a hole in my pocket.  The wife has given me the go ahead to spend at will so it's really starting to agitate me that I am clueless.  My friends car just struck me as a really nice deal today, that's a ton of car for the money and it was pretty sweet.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 09:49:04 PM
Do you have any suggestions TBR.  I really wanted the RR sport but I don't want anything but the orange.  All I know right now is I want something bigger but don't want to go over 70k and would like to stay around 60 if possible.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 09:52:12 PM
Would a M45 or GS430 be too small? If so, I would look for a slightly used XJ8L.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:00:26 PM
QuoteWould a M45 or GS430 be too small? If so, I would look for a slightly used XJ8L.
No to the infiniti and lexus, let me find the xj.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:03:17 PM
I like the xj8l but it's a bit paw paw, if you know what I mean.  I'm 32 not 62 and it seems I only see older people driving them.  I think it's definitely classy enough but a bit stereotyped in my mind.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:03:47 PM
Looks like getting one for under 70k will be a problem, they seem to hover around $71,000. If you don't need that much space you can get a XJ8 for about $50,000 or a XJR for another $7.5k
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:07:24 PM
QuoteI like the xj8l but it's a bit paw paw, if you know what I mean.  I'm 32 not 62 and it seems I only see older people driving them.  I think it's definitely classy enough but a bit stereotyped in my mind.
I figured that might be the case. How about this?
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/14/185/897/1613040741.185897990.IM1.MAIN.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=177 (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185897990&dealer_id=25740584&car_year=2004&search_type=both&make=AUDI&model=A8&transmission=&distance=300&make2=&address=75941&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2003&drive=&isp=y&engine=&fuel=&doors=&lang=en&cardist=177)

Or this:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/14/185/841/1610516983.185841679.IM1.MAIN.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...en&cardist=1332 (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185841679&dealer_id=54059129&car_year=2002&search_type=both&make=AUDI&model=S8&transmission=&distance=0&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=1332)

Or this:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/4/29/180/313/1422658075.180313167.IM1.MAIN.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...ist=1332#vdptop (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180313167&dealer_id=54059129&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=AUDI&model=RS6&transmission=&distance=0&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=1332#vdptop)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:11:07 PM
Or maybe this:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/6/28/183/571/1566300605.183571423.IM1.04.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...dist=165#vdptop (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183571423&dealer_id=56411896&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=BMW&model=M5&transmission=&distance=300&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=165#vdptop)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:17:51 PM
The A8 is gorgeous, I like it.  The RS6 packs the punch but is a tad on the small side.  I'm sure I would love the performance of the 6 over the 8.  Good choices there, do you not like the 745s?  I haven't done any research besides a little today on larger luxury sedans.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:21:15 PM
QuoteOr maybe this:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/6/28/183/571/1566300605.183571423.IM1.04.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...dist=165#vdptop (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183571423&dealer_id=56411896&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=BMW&model=M5&transmission=&distance=300&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=165#vdptop)
The M5 is nice but since redesign I would be weary of purchasing it.  This guy is probably going to buy the new one after he sells it.  I've driven a M5 before and it's a great car but I want a solid comfy ride.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:21:31 PM
I guess the M5 is probably also too small, the 745i is a fine sedan, just not my personal style. But, if you like it go for it, there is nothing wrong with it.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:24:00 PM
QuoteI guess the M5 is probably also too small, the 745i is a fine sedan, just not my personal style. But, if you like it go for it, there is nothing wrong with it.
Well I'm a little older and I have 2 hot rods in the garage for that adrenaline rush.  If I need more I can break out the sportbike.  I'm a little older but not old by no means and I think the 745 is a classy but still a bit youthful looking car.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:24:44 PM
I do like the A8, have you driven one?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:25:10 PM
Two more options:
Slightly used E500:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/20/186/182/1627817229.186182437.IM1.03.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...dist=120#vdptop (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=186182437&dealer_id=43564404&car_year=2005&search_type=both&make=MB&model=E500&transmission=&distance=300&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=2003&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=120#vdptop)

More used E55:
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/7/9/185/666/1600918596.185666211.IM1.MAIN.240x180_A.240x180.jpg)
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...=en&cardist=109 (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=185666211&dealer_id=571363&car_year=2003&search_type=both&make=MB&model=E55&transmission=&distance=300&address=75941&make2=&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=2006&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&isp=y&engine=&doors=&fuel=&lang=en&cardist=109)

Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:25:48 PM
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QuoteI guess the M5 is probably also too small, the 745i is a fine sedan, just not my personal style. But, if you like it go for it, there is nothing wrong with it.
Well I'm a little older and I have 2 hot rods in the garage for that adrenaline rush.  If I need more I can break out the sportbike.  I'm a little older but not old by no means and I think the 745 is a classy but still a bit youthful looking car.
I like large sedans, I just don't like the way the 7-series looks, inside or out. And, I am just 15.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:29:01 PM
What do you think of this?

745Li (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180042635&dealer_id=96997&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745LI&end_year=2005&min_price=1&certified=&address=70578&search_type=used&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=null)

(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/5/20/180/042/1468767628.180042635.IM1.02.565x421_A.562x421.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:30:08 PM
It looks nice and is a good price, but the wheels ruin the entire look of the car. Where you going to get a supercharged RRS or the NA version?  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:45:13 PM
QuoteIt looks nice and is a good price, but the wheels ruin the entire look of the car. Where you going to get a supercharged RRS or the NA version?
I was going to get the supercharged which optioned would have pushed me well over 70k.  I didn't have a problem with that, I really really like the truck.  I do not however like any of the other colors but the orange on it.  

Since I'm switching up I've got a new price point because I'm just spending money here to spend money.  Did I need the RR, no but I liked it enough to get into the car buying mood.  Now it's in my head to get something, so I'm going to follow through.

You don't like the wheels?  I don't mind them but I could always switch to something BBS style aftermarket.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:46:34 PM
Hubcaps just don't seem approporiate for a 60k car imho.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:50:13 PM
Those are hubcaps, I didn't know that.  I thought they were painted and polished aluminum rims.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:52:11 PM
I see the calipers behind them pretty clearly in the pic, are you sure?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 10:52:57 PM
(http://images.autotrader.com/images/2005/5/20/180/042/1468767627.180042635.IM1.MAIN.565x421_A.562x421.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 10:56:26 PM
I guess they are regular wheels, but they still look too much like hupcaps for my tastes:
(http://www.transwheel.com/limages/BO71.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 10:58:55 PM
QuoteI see the calipers behind them pretty clearly in the pic, are you sure?
I have no idea what TBR is talking about...those are aluminum/steel wheels through and through.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 10:59:34 PM
QuoteI guess they are regular wheels, but they still look too much like hupcaps for my tastes:
(http://www.transwheel.com/limages/BO71.jpg)
No BMW 7 series sold in the US comes with hubcaps...hell, I dont think any BMW comes with hubcaps.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:00:25 PM
They just look cheap imho, almost plastic looking. These are much better:
(http://www.crevierbmw.com/images/760Li/0376_Main.gif)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:01:12 PM
The RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:02:17 PM
QuoteThey just look cheap imho, almost plastic looking. These are much better:
(http://www.crevierbmw.com/images/760Li/0376_Main.gif)
They do look better, but I believe they are only available on the 760i.  I will have to check.  And the other wheels are one of the most classy ones available on the 7er, IMO.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:03:19 PM
QuoteThe RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.
What RR wheel are you talking about?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:10:10 PM
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QuoteThe RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.
What RR wheel are you talking about?
The only wheel that is available as far as I know:
(http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/rr/Rolls-Royce_Phantom_2003_005.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:10:38 PM
Here's a few other choices.

(http://www.pokerjunky.net/745/thumb_DSC02221.jpg)
(http://www.sequencewheels.jp/gallery/img_3.jpg)(http://www.zainomobiledetail.com/clientcars/celebrity/Marcellus/745li/logo.jpg)
(http://www.breyton.com/images/7er_bmw/7ergr.jpg)
(http://www.work-wheels.co.nz/gallery_images/7series_207.jpg)
(http://www.thedealonwheels.com/gallery/zinikcarosa_bmw7series.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:11:57 PM
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Quote
QuoteThe RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.
What RR wheel are you talking about?
The only wheel that is available as far as I know:
[IMG]http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/rr/Rolls-Royce_Phantom_2003_005.jpg[IMG]
Thats not a hubcap, just because it looks like one...the inside of the wheel also spins so that the RR is always level.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:12:35 PM
R33, all those wheels look very tacky, IMO.  I would advise you to go with stock....much classier, IMO.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:15:02 PM
QuoteR33, all those wheels look very tacky, IMO.  I would advise you to go with stock....much classier, IMO.
I was thinking the same, looks a bit rapperish.  I do however somewhat like the ones 3rd up from the bottom, they look clean.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:16:27 PM
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QuoteR33, all those wheels look very tacky, IMO.  I would advise you to go with stock....much classier, IMO.
I was thinking the same, looks a bit rapperish.  I do however somewhat like the ones 3rd up from the bottom, they look clean.
Those do look clean....these wheels look damn sexy on the move though.

(http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/400x266/2005-BMW-7-Series-04602071990001.JPG)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:17:07 PM
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Quote
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QuoteThe RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.
What RR wheel are you talking about?
The only wheel that is available as far as I know:
[IMG]http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/rr/Rolls-Royce_Phantom_2003_005.jpg[IMG]
Thats not a hubcap, just because it looks like one...the inside of the wheel also spins so that the RR is always level.
I have read that it is a hubcap.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:20:34 PM
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Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteThe RR Phantom does come with hub caps, if you consider that to be a BMW.
What RR wheel are you talking about?
The only wheel that is available as far as I know:
(http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/rr/Rolls-Royce_Phantom_2003_005.jpg%5BIMG%5D%20%5B/quote%5D%3Cbr%20/%3EThats%20not%20a%20hubcap,%20just%20because%20it%20looks%20like%20one...the%20inside%20of%20the%20wheel%20also%20spins%20so%20that%20the%20RR%20is%20always%20level.%20%5B/quote%5D%3Cbr%20/%3EI%20have%20read%20that%20it%20is%20a%20hubcap.%20%5B/quote%5D%3Cbr%20/%3E%20I'd%20like%20a%20link%20first%20of%20all,%20and%20I%20will%20try%20to%20provide%20one%20to%20prove%20its%20a%20wheel.%3Cbr%20/%3EThere%20are%20other%20styles%20available%20as%20well.%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.rrmc-dunedin.com/img/preowned.jpg)

Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:23:33 PM
This is a wheel.

(http://images.newcarnet.co.uk/news_pic1/36140rr.jpg)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:24:56 PM
QuoteThis is a wheel.

(http://images.newcarnet.co.uk/news_pic1/36140rr.jpg)
As is the other RR one...RR wouldnt be so stupid as to put hubcaps on a 350K car..and I have numerous articles which refer to them as wheels, not hubcaps.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:25:43 PM
Yes, that looks like a wheel, the other one doesn't. And, I don't have a link, it was in a mag. I believe it was in the C/D preview of the Phantom.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:29:49 PM
Usually any form of hubcap shows the steel behind it with the cutouts for unsprung weight savings.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:31:00 PM
You can see a bit of steel wheel in the first RR pic.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:31:15 PM
QuoteUsually any form of hubcap shows the steel behind it with the cutouts for unsprung weight savings.
And I dont think RR in their right mind would ever put a hubcap on a 350K car.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: JYODER240 on July 20, 2005, 11:33:32 PM
Does anyone else like the looks of the 745 better than the 750?

(http://images.autobytel.com/view/aic/BMW/7SERIES/sdn/usa_2005_bmw_7series_sdn_4_x_exfrhead_x.jpg)

(http://images.autobytel.com/view/aic/BMW/7SERIES/sdn/usa_2005_bmw_7series_sdn_4_x_exrrhead_x.jpg)

(http://img.web.de/c/00/57/DE/2C.420)

(http://www.nextcar.com.au/i.bmw.750Li.rear.2005.05jan.jpg)

Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:34:26 PM
I like the 750i better.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:35:02 PM
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QuoteUsually any form of hubcap shows the steel behind it with the cutouts for unsprung weight savings.
And I dont think RR in their right mind would ever put a hubcap on a 350K car.
Neither would I, but you can pretty clearly see steel wheel.

And, I definitely prefer the 750.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:35:12 PM
(http://hubcaphouse.com/shop/specials/hhss07.jpg)

That is a called a "hubcap" and that is probably what you read about in C/D.  It fits into the center of the wheel, and is always upright.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:36:38 PM
The rest of the wheel still looks like a hubcap
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:37:46 PM
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Quote
QuoteUsually any form of hubcap shows the steel behind it with the cutouts for unsprung weight savings.
And I dont think RR in their right mind would ever put a hubcap on a 350K car.
Neither would I, but you can pretty clearly see steel wheel.

And, I definitely prefer the 750.
Let's see what the deals look like on auto trader.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:39:00 PM
QuoteThe rest of the wheel still looks like a hubcap
"looks like" and "is" are completely different.  You also thought the BMW wheel was a hubcap, and you were wrong there.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:39:21 PM
I like the sportier front end on the 750 but I like the rear of the 745 better.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 20, 2005, 11:39:42 PM
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QuoteThe rest of the wheel still looks like a hubcap
"looks like" and "is" are completely different.  You also thought the BMW wheel was a hubcap, and you were wrong there.
Except you can't see a steel wheel behind the 7-series' wheel.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 20, 2005, 11:41:12 PM
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Quote
QuoteThe rest of the wheel still looks like a hubcap
"looks like" and "is" are completely different.  You also thought the BMW wheel was a hubcap, and you were wrong there.
Except you can't see a steel wheel behind the 7-series' wheel.
(http://www.canadianautoreview.com/naias-phantom-wheel-700.jpg)

Thats a pretty close up image.  I see the brake caliper on the left, and in a hubcap, you wouldnt see that.  Furthermore, it all looks clear to me...no black behind the wheel.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:41:17 PM
Well the 750Li is just 6 inches longer, do you like it better as well?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 20, 2005, 11:46:26 PM
No deals yet they are all new.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: ifcar on July 21, 2005, 06:14:05 AM
QuoteDoes anyone else like the looks of the 745 better than the 750?
I do, but only because of the 750's awful taillight tack-ons.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 06:22:49 AM
You can get two of the last gen XJRs for 70 grand!  The new one, however, is infinitely better (considering the last gen was smaller than an E class and 5 series on the inside).  If you get one a year old, you're looking at nearly 400bhp for 60K or less.  It's a great car--Car of the Bear 2004, if you do remember.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2005, 06:26:55 AM
QuoteNo deals yet they are all new.
I don't like the 745/750 Li models because all that extra length gets tacked on at the back, and it makes the car look disproportioned.  The regluar model, due to its proportions and wide design, make it look like a smaller car than the last model, but it's actually bigger.  The 750i is a much nicer design, and about as much space as you need.  There aren't any manufacturer deals on them yet, (and honestly, there probably won't be) but when my dad and I went to look at them, the dealer was willing to play ball, and he gave us a great number.

Oh, there's a bit of a trick going on with the 750s that I've noticed...they're stocking all the models with 19" rims, at a cost of a grand or more to you.  If you want that, fine, but if not, make sure you either get them get you a car without them, or say you'll take it at "a reduced price."  Push these guys...if they're good, they'll push back, and you'll win in the end.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:08:58 AM
I might just stick with the 745i.  Buying this vehicle you are better off letting someone else take the initial hit and you pick it up with 10-25k miles on it for 20-30k off.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 09:33:40 AM
I'm searching the 745i now to see what's around.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:36:22 AM
A few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003  $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:38:30 AM
Dave, I'm looking at the first one above pretty hard.  This is from thier site.

Looks pretty nice. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=6428)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 10:39:46 AM
I would go for the 2004, the 2003 had a lot of first year problems that might still be lurking. And, Dave, I will show you what I am talking about later, don't have much time right now.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 10:40:39 AM
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003  $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:40:54 AM
(http://64.40.100.110/6428/35.jpg)


Look TBR, it's a real wheel.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 10:42:35 AM
I was refering to the RR wheel.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:51:41 AM
Quote
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003? $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
I talked with the guy on the phone, he said the 04 has every available option but the different wheels.  Voice activation, massaging seats, everything.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 10:52:14 AM
Quote
Quote
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003? $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
I talked with the guy on the phone, he said the 04 has every available option but the different wheels.  Voice activation, massaging seats, everything.
Thats great!  What wheels does it have?  I pretty much like every 7er wheel.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 10:52:28 AM
QuoteI was refering to the RR wheel.
I know but earlier I couldn't completely tell on this vehicle with the pics.  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Raghavan on July 21, 2005, 10:53:50 AM
go for the 7, although i'd like to get an XJR more...
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 10:54:04 AM
Quote
Quote
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0〈=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003  $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0〈=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
I talked with the guy on the phone, he said the 04 has every available option but the different wheels.  Voice activation, massaging seats, everything.
Go for it, my motto is, "If you have money waste no time spending it!" ;) :lol:
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 11:03:41 AM
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003? $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
I talked with the guy on the phone, he said the 04 has every available option but the different wheels.  Voice activation, massaging seats, everything.
Thats great!  What wheels does it have?  I pretty much like every 7er wheel.
Yes, clik the link for a really good array of pics.


Here it is again Dave. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=6428)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: TBR on July 21, 2005, 11:05:32 AM
Still don't like the wheels, but the price is right. Have you made an offer or are you going to go look at it first?  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 11:07:43 AM
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
QuoteA few to check out Dave.

2004 56,500 12,727 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=185983357&dealer_id=764337&car_year=2004&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=519)
2003? $54,995 14,003 miles (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=180705208&dealer_id=49958952&car_year=2003&make=BMW&distance=0&lang=&max_price=100000&model=745I&end_year=2005&min_price=1&first_record=101&pager.offset=100&certified=&address=70578&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=2003&isp=y&cardist=829)
I would go for the less expensive one.  It only has slightly more miles, and it appears to have massaging front seats :lol:  Cant beat that B)

EDIT:  I thought they were the same year...TBR is right, you should go for the 2004...there would be less electrical gremlins.
I talked with the guy on the phone, he said the 04 has every available option but the different wheels.  Voice activation, massaging seats, everything.
Thats great!  What wheels does it have?  I pretty much like every 7er wheel.
Yes, clik the link for a really good array of pics.


Here it is again Dave. (http://64.40.100.110/inv_info.php?stock=6428)
It looks great B)
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
QuoteStill don't like the wheels, but the price is right. Have you made an offer or are you going to go look at it first?
It's in Atlanta, so I'm not going to see it until I would fly up to get it.  I'm still looking on autotrader right now.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 11:29:24 AM
Here's the Carfax report on it.

CARFAX Talking CarTM
The story of this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220) according to our
interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This sedan has had 1 owner in Georgia. The first title for this sedan was
reported to CARFAX by a Georgia DMV in 2004.
It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident, fire
or flood.
It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical Limits or
Not Actual Mileage title.
It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer
rollback. The last odometer reading, reported on 08/23/2004, was 978 miles.
It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and a glossary
of terms.


Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK

  Total Loss Check   No Severe Accidents Reported by a DMV - Buyback
Guarantee!
  Other Accident Indicators    No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

  Truth-In-Mileage Check   No Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV - Buyback
Guarantee!
  Odometer Rollback Check    No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
  Mileage Consistency Check    No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECKR
  No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

  Number of Owners   1 Estimated Owner(s)
  Type of Owners    Checked 8 Types of Vehicle Registrations
5. RECALL CHECK
  BMW Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 6 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED







Year/Make/Model: 2004 BMW 745I

Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
Engine: 4.5L V8 EFI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: GERMANY
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Running Lights Optional, Dual air bags front
and sides/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM
CD, Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer





Total Loss Check:


GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this
2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220). If you find that any of the following
severe problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report,
CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must register to activate this free
guarantee!


Salvage Title  Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title  Flood Damage Title
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title  Hail Damage Title
Dismantled Title  Canadian Total Loss


Other Accident Indicators:


 This 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220) had no accident indicators reported
to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related
damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are
reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or
professional mechanic is recommended.

 No Salvage Auction Record Reported    No Crash Test Vehicle Record
Reported
 No Fire Damage Record Reported    No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
 No Frame Damage Record Reported    No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
 No Police Accident Record Reported    No Collision Repair Facility Record
Reported

CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each
one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report
what is in our database on 21.Jul.2005 11:22:24. New data will result in a
change to this report.






Truth-In-Mileage Check:


GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the
Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220). If you find
that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not
included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. You must
register to activate this free guarantee!

 Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage
fraud or a broken odometer.
 Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses
an odometer rollover.


Odometer Rollback Check:


 CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 2004 BMW 745I
(WBAGL634X4DP72220). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from
readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:


 CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of
this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220).

 Date: Mileage:
03/25/2004 9
08/23/2004 978








GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 2004
BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220). If you find that a manufacturer buyback was
reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this
vehicle back. You must register to activate this free guarantee!






Ownership History:


 CARFAX estimates that this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220) had 1
owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting
events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the
U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or
addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner  08/23/2004 Georgia

Types of Owners:


 This 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220) was originally registered as a
Personal Vehicle.

Personal Use Registration Reported    No Fleet Registration Reported
 No Lease Registration Reported    No Commercial Registration Reported
 No Rental Registration Reported    No Non-Profit Registration Reported
 No Taxi Registration Reported    No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record
Reported






 BMW does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
You can contact an authorized dealership or BMW at 1-800-334-4269 to find
out if this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220) still has recalls that require
repair.




CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and
found 6 record(s) for this 2004 BMW 745I (WBAGL634X4DP72220).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:


03/05/2004       US Customs
Vehicle exported from
Germany
and imported to
Newark, NJ


03/25/2004  9  Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
Miscellaneous service performed


06/22/2004       Dealer Inventory
Illinois
Vehicle sold


08/11/2004       Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Marietta, GA
Registered as
personal vehicle


08/23/2004  978  Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Marietta, GA
Title #772399042361007
Title issued or updated
First owner reported


08/31/2004       Georgia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Marietta, GA
Title #772399042361007
Registration issued or renewed


Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:

First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles
as proof of ownership.

Personal Use
Vehicle was registered by the owner for private or personal use.




 CARFAX BUYBACK GUARANTEE
Courtesy of Select Luxury Cars

If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a Department
of Motor Vehicles and were not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this
vehicle back.

Severe Damage:  Odometer Problems:  Lemon History:
Salvage/Junk

Rebuilt/Reconstructed

Dismantled

Fire/Flood/Hail

Canadian Total Loss
Exceeds Mechanical Limits

Not Actual Mileage
Manufacturer Buyback


Your CARFAX Buyback Coverage:
Vehicle: Transferable Coverage: Activation:
2004 BMW 745I
WBAGL634X4DP72220 07/21/2005 - 07/21/2006 REQUIRED --
ACTIVATE TODAY!
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: BMWDave on July 21, 2005, 11:35:01 AM
Its got a very clean record.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
I'm going to give the wife a call and see what she thinks.  She still thinks I'm stuck on the Range Rover deal.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Tom on July 21, 2005, 11:38:07 AM
I've heard bad things about carfax.  And their fine print covers their ass from so called buybacks.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Tom on July 21, 2005, 02:07:36 PM
QuoteI'm going to give the wife a call and see what she thinks.  She still thinks I'm stuck on the Range Rover deal.
Did you get the A-OK?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 02:41:47 PM
Quote
QuoteI'm going to give the wife a call and see what she thinks.  She still thinks I'm stuck on the Range Rover deal.
Did you get the A-OK?
She's in a district meeting till 5.  Holding on.   :angry:  
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Raghavan on July 21, 2005, 03:25:10 PM
Quote
Quote
QuoteI'm going to give the wife a call and see what she thinks.  She still thinks I'm stuck on the Range Rover deal.
Did you get the A-OK?
She's in a district meeting till 5.  Holding on.   :angry:
you don't want the rR?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: R33 GT-R on July 21, 2005, 03:26:08 PM
They do move fast, the guy told me to get back with him in the next 2 hours and he was right.  It's sold.
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: Raghavan on July 21, 2005, 03:27:10 PM
QuoteThey do move fast, the guy told me to get back with him in the next 2 hours and he was right.  It's sold.
it's gone?
Title: 745Li and 750Li Differences?
Post by: giant_mtb on July 21, 2005, 03:27:13 PM
I guess your only open option is the Bimmer!  Darn! ^_^  :rockon: