2017 Tao Tao 50 ATM something something. Mine. :pee:
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgTZHX14/IMG-20200911-175538086.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J45MMN62/IMG-20200911-175552226.jpg)
Man, this thing is slow as fuck, but it sure beats walking.
Ha ha, if you look at the plastic on the front you see two big circles for eyes, and an open mouth sticking out a tongue. Tao Tao face. Try and unsee that!
Quote from: Laconian on September 11, 2020, 05:09:44 PM
Ha ha, if you look at the plastic on the front you see two big circles for eyes, and an open mouth sticking out a tongue. Tao Tao face. Try and unsee that!
Great. I will have to paint the face now.
Paint it like Totoro.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but :wtf: ?
Quote from: shp4man on September 11, 2020, 05:38:19 PM
Please don't take this the wrong way, but :wtf: ?
Uber costs $50/day.
$600 scoot is a no brainer. :popcorn:
Quote from: Laconian on September 11, 2020, 05:36:53 PM
Paint it like Totoro.
I don't know that.
It is going to be a brighter color all around. I don't want to get run over.
I also happen to have a red LED bar that I will add to the back. Moar litez
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 11, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
Uber costs $50/day.
$600 scoot is a no brainer. :popcorn:
Waitwaitwait. These Taotaos are $800 new, and you paid $600 for
that one?
Also, won't you have new rad in a few days?
Quote from: Rockraven on September 11, 2020, 05:47:58 PM
Also, won't you have new rad in a few days?
Yeah, after I order it. And then I have to put it in. But I also need new transmissoon cooler lines, and need to modify the radiator support to fit the new radiator. And stuff.
Quote from: Rockraven on September 11, 2020, 05:46:59 PM
Waitwaitwait. These Taotaos are $800 new, and you paid $600 for that one?
Actually, they are $850 new. :evildude:
So yeah. It runs great AND has a warranty. :lol: $600 out the door with a temp tag. Apparently, 50cc mopeds require registrations now.
2 cycle engine?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 11, 2020, 05:42:53 PM
I don't know that.
It is going to be a brighter color all around. I don't want to get run over.
I also happen to have a red LED bar that I will add to the back. Moar litez
(https://www.asiancrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/322127-My_Neighbor_Totoro-1024x559.jpg)
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 11, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
4-stroke, GY6, clone of a Honda
Huh.
Is there a chinese clone of the 2.3 Honda outboard?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 11, 2020, 07:26:39 PM
Huh.
Is there a chinese clone of the 2.3 Honda outboard?
I have no idea. Virtually all Chinese scooters 50-150cc use an old Honda design.
I pegged scooty's speedo at 50 MPH down a hill. It was screaming. Then 20 MPH up the hill.
Spontaneous scooter order
(https://i0.wp.com/vietnaminsider.vn/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Vietnams-Motorcycle.jpg)
Who's ready for safe fun?
Quote from: MX793 on September 12, 2020, 06:10:41 PM
Who's ready for safe fun?
If I can get a decal of that, it's going on scooty
It's a black Chinese scooter. Monster decals are necessary.
Quote from: Rockraven on September 12, 2020, 07:52:42 PM
It's a black Chinese scooter. Monster decals are necessary.
Do you mean the energy drink? I don't even like it.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 12, 2020, 08:56:43 PM
Do you mean the energy drink? I don't even like it.
Doesn't matter. The big neon green slashy stickers are cool and you must install them. Also, a "No Fear" sticker. Or several.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 12, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
I pegged scooty's speedo at 50 MPH down a hill. It was screaming. Then 20 MPH up the hill.
Was it screaming or were you?
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 13, 2020, 08:12:02 AM
Was it screaming or were you?
Everything was screaming
Quote from: Rockraven on September 13, 2020, 08:07:44 AM
Doesn't matter. The big neon green slashy stickers are cool and you must install them. Also, a "No Fear" sticker. Or several.
No fear. Monster. Punisher. Harley-Davidson. Hell's Angels. QAnon. Calvin peeing on ur mom.
Quote from: Rockraven on September 13, 2020, 08:07:44 AM
Doesn't matter. The big neon green slashy stickers are cool and you must install them. Also, a "No Fear" sticker. Or several.
Is No Fear still around? I don't think I've seen any No Fear stuff in over a decade.
Quote from: MX793 on September 13, 2020, 08:52:07 AM
Is No Fear still around? I don't think I've seen any No Fear stuff in over a decade.
Beats me. :huh:
Tap-Out
Go some custom CVT variator roller weights and carb jets for $12. An 80cc big bore kit starts around $30. Scooty parts are cheap as hell.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 13, 2020, 04:46:21 PM
Go some custom CVT variator roller weights and carb jets for $12. An 80cc big bore kit starts around $30. Scooty parts are cheap as hell.
Is it a Chinese copy of the old Honda 50 motor? Will parts interchange?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 13, 2020, 04:46:21 PM
Go some custom CVT variator roller weights and carb jets for $12. An 80cc big bore kit starts around $30. Scooty parts are cheap as hell.
Quote from: shp4man on September 13, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Is it a Chinese copy of the old Honda 50 motor? Will parts interchange?
I don't think there is a reason to interchange. There is a huuuuuuge aftermarket for the Chinese GY6 / QMB engines.
I did a Google search for Taotao Scooter 50cc. Google tried to answer a question for me.
Q: How fast is 50cc in mph?
A: 40-45 miles per hour
AI supremacy: a long ways to go :thumbsup:
I kind of wish I bought a shitty gas scooter during my college days. It would've been perfect.
Quote from: Laconian on September 13, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
I did a Google search for Taotao Scooter 50cc. Google tried to answer a question for me.
Q: How fast is 50cc in mph?
A: 40-45 miles per hour
AI supremacy: a long ways to go :thumbsup:
:wtf:
Quote from: Laconian on September 13, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
I did a Google search for Taotao Scooter 50cc. Google tried to answer a question for me.
Q: How fast is 50cc in mph?
A: 40-45 miles per hour
AI supremacy: a long ways to go :thumbsup:
Its not wrong wrong, but its still wrong.
Weighed the variator rollers at 6-grams.
Need lower gearing for hill climbs.
Got some new 4-gram variator rollers.
Dog stole them and chewed on them
Just installed them, anyway.
Climbs hills at 30 now. Screaming all the way. Sweeeeeet.
so have you taken it off any sweet jumps yet?
Quote from: MX793 on September 16, 2020, 12:46:29 PM
so have you taken it off any sweet jumps yet?
Do speed humps count? I spilled my coffee, so ...
Added moar red LED tail lights. Done did change the oil to 5w40 synthetic. Lubed the brakes. Fiddled with the carb. Scootin pretty darn good now. Almost no need for any more power. Almost.
I'm living sudden active scooter scooter interest through this thread.
Quote from: Morris Minor on September 17, 2020, 05:03:44 AM
I'm living sudden active scooter scooter interest through this thread.
Ya. It would be kick in the ass to own a scooter or maybe a 250cc bike.
Some of the "super scooters" are motorcycle fast. You could legit tour with them. After his Goldwing got to be too much weight for my grandfather, he got a 400cc Suzuki scooter as a runabout (which was what he used the Wing for mostly). That thing was surprisingly fast. Comparable to a 250cc bike, for sure. Had no trouble accelerating from a stop to 60 mph on a decent incline. I didn't really need to give it the spurs and it didn't feel like it was working that hard and it pulled up the hill quick enough to stay ahead of typical traffic. Pretty sure it would do 80+. And that was the small engine model. There's a 650cc version with like double the power.
I will say that highway speeds on a scooter is a weird feeling. I like being able to grip the bike between my legs to help stay more planted on the machine.
Rode to work through Sally this morning. F that
Quote from: MX793 on September 17, 2020, 09:13:34 AM
Some of the "super scooters" are motorcycle fast. You could legit tour with them. After his Goldwing got to be too much weight for my grandfather, he got a 400cc Suzuki scooter as a runabout (which was what he used the Wing for mostly). That thing was surprisingly fast. Comparable to a 250cc bike, for sure. Had no trouble accelerating from a stop to 60 mph on a decent incline. I didn't really need to give it the spurs and it didn't feel like it was working that hard and it pulled up the hill quick enough to stay ahead of typical traffic. Pretty sure it would do 80+. And that was the small engine model. There's a 650cc version with like double the power.
I will say that highway speeds on a scooter is a weird feeling. I like being able to grip the bike between my legs to help stay more planted on the machine.
Some scoots can certainly be fast.
For my commute, the 50cc scoot just does the trick. Of course, it is basically WOT all the time.
Now that I have it fine tuned, it will do 35-40 MPH on flat ground, climb the steepest hills at 20-25, and hit 50+ down hills.
Ordered a damn $20 Frogg Toggs rain suit. No more trash bags.
scootyp0st
No p0sting while sc00ting :nono:
Scooty does not seem to use gas.
I believe it is powered by mathamagic.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Fourier_series_square_wave_circles_animation.gif)
I can't imagine how slow that has to be... I bought a "125cc" Tao Tao 4 wheeler for the kid a few years ago and that thing is a complete joke. Moderately better after I replaced the Chinese carb with a $25 chinese carb from Amazon.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 18, 2020, 04:27:58 PM
Scooty does not seem to use gas.
I believe it is powered by mathamagic.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Fourier_series_square_wave_circles_animation.gif)
That is pretty cool. Square wave as you approach infinity.
Quote from: r0tor on September 18, 2020, 07:15:37 PM
I can't imagine how slow that has to be... I bought a "125cc" Tao Tao 4 wheeler for the kid a few years ago and that thing is a complete joke. Moderately better after I replaced the Chinese carb with a $25 chinese carb from Amazon.
It is basically WOT, all the time. This thing is geared for streetz. So far, I've hit the left turn signal with the speedo needle. That is an indicated 60 MPH, actual probably 53 MPH. Starting on hills is tough. On the steepest hill, it will crawl up at 15 MPH. Usually, it will not drop below 30.
I pulled the spark plug, and it has a nice beige color - just right. I got a set of main jets for the carb, so I might try going up a size, and then opening up the air intake a bit. I think I can squeeze another 0.3 HP out of it. That's like a 10% increase in power.
It's like a race car, mang. 100% of the power, as much as possible. If it can be 110%, that is yooooge. Such race. Very tuning.
LS1 swap. The engine vee would make a comfortable saddle. Just wear asbestos pants.
Quote from: Laconian on September 19, 2020, 12:41:34 PM
LS1 swap. The engine vee would make a comfortable saddle. Just wear asbestos pants.
I could make pants out of my attic insulation!
Little things are coming.
Done did some carburetor work ...
Changed main jet from 0.75mm to 0.80mm.
Moved the metering rod up one notch.
This should, maybe, add enough fuel to keep the mixture just on the rich side after I add a pod air filter and modify the muffler.
Gonna chop off the end cap of the muffler and do ... something. Piss off the neighbors, I guess.
I need to make a temporary air filter to strap over the carb intake. Sock? T-shirt? 1000 thread count egyptian cotton bed sheet?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 23, 2020, 04:20:55 PM
I need to make a temporary air filter to strap over the carb intake. Sock? T-shirt? 1000 thread count egyptian cotton bed sheet?
Something fire retardant, just in case it backfires. You are sitting over the engine after all.
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 23, 2020, 04:53:09 PM
Something fire retardant, just in case it backfires. You are sitting over the engine after all.
Wool sock?
So is the drivetrain just a centrifugal clutch or are there actual speeds?
Quote from: shp4man on September 23, 2020, 05:32:52 PM
So is the drivetrain just a centrifugal clutch or are there actual speeds?
CVT with a centrifugal clutch. Infinite speeds.
Got a new keychain for the scooty
(https://i.postimg.cc/PqS7Bs10/IMG-20200923-195304679.jpg)
:lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 17, 2020, 04:57:04 PM
Some scoots can certainly be fast.
For my commute, the 50cc scoot just does the trick. Of course, it is basically WOT all the time.
Now that I have it fine tuned, it will do 35-40 MPH on flat ground, climb the steepest hills at 20-25, and hit 50+ down hills.
You mean KPH right?
Quote from: r0tor on September 24, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
You mean KPH right?
Knots per hour would be a rate of acceleration
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 24, 2020, 09:05:53 AM
Knots per hour would be a rate of acceleration
Dammit- I was going to correct you until I realized you were right.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 09:35:13 AM
Dammit- I was going to correct you until I realized you were right.
And under that premise Rotor could be right also.
Now I need a breakdown on the acceleration potential of a scooter and a Camry (for comparison purposes) to see if 20-50 knots per hour is a realistic acceleration number.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 11:21:08 AM
Now I need a breakdown on the acceleration potential of a scooter and a Camry (for comparison purposes) to see if 20-50 knots per hour is a realistic acceleration number.
Well within the capability of either.
What happens if the knots are garlic knots?
Quote from: r0tor on September 24, 2020, 12:01:34 PM
What happens if the knots are garlic knots?
It will keep the vampires out of the road
Quote from: MX793 on September 24, 2020, 11:44:58 AM
Well within the capability of either.
Now I wanna know the max knots per mile of the scooter though
Nick, what's the 1/4 mile time for this Tao Tao 50? Or 1/8 milr
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 12:45:50 PM
Now I wanna know the max knots per mile of the scooter though
Nick, what's the 1/4 mile time for this Tao Tao 50? Or 1/8 milr
33.5 seconds at 48MPH. Blazingly fast. :lol:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 12:45:50 PM
Now I wanna know the max knots per mile of the scooter though
Nick, what's the 1/4 mile time for this Tao Tao 50? Or 1/8 milr
I'll have to download one of those apps and try it out. :lol:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 12:45:50 PM
Now I wanna know the max knots per mile of the scooter though
Nick, what's the 1/4 mile time for this Tao Tao 50? Or 1/8 milr
What's a knot per mile? A nautical mile per hour per mile?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
What's a knot per mile? A nautical mile per hour per mile?
We've been over this
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 11:21:08 AM
Now I need a breakdown on the acceleration potential of a scooter and a Camry (for comparison purposes) to see if 20-50 knots per hour is a realistic acceleration number.
Well of course; 50 knots per hour would be taking an hour to accelerate to 50 knots.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 02:17:33 PM
What's a knot per mile? A nautical mile per hour per mile?
lol I meant knot per hour.
But now I also want to know the scooter's max knot per mile ability too.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
lol I meant knot per hour.
But now I also want to know the scooter's max knot per mile ability too.
1.15t, where t is time elapsed.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 02:23:29 PM
1.15t, where t is time elapsed.
More land speed racing than drag racing, if land speed racing required sustained speed for some amount of time.
Knots refers to nautical miles per hour and 1 nautical mile is roughly 1.15 miles.
Nautical miles is not probably technically correct but that works in my head.
Quote from: RomanChariot on September 24, 2020, 03:40:21 PM
Knots refers to nautical miles per hour and 1 nautical mile is roughly 1.15 miles.
Nautical miles is not probably technically correct but that works in my head.
You are correct.
A knot is a knot; specifically a knot in a log line that's 7 fathoms from the next knot. You throw the log in, and count how many knots are unspooled in 28 seconds; and that's how fast you're
going.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
You are correct.
A knot is a knot; specifically a knot in a log line that's 7 fathoms from the next knot. You throw the log in, and count how many knots are unspooled in 28 seconds; and that's how fast you're going.
A video of Nick throwing a log & knotted rope off the back of his scooter would be an acceptable substitute for 1/4 mile data.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 24, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
You are correct.
A knot is a knot; specifically a knot in a log line that's 7 fathoms from the next knot. You throw the log in, and count how many knots are unspooled in 28 seconds; and that's how fast you're
going.
Yeah, I knew it had something to do with knots on a rope but I was too lazy to look it up.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 04:19:35 PM
A video of Nick throwing a log & knotted rope off the back of his scooter would be an acceptable substitute for 1/4 mile data.
Hmmph!
Carb is just barely tuned, and I will have to ride in tgecrain tomorrow. Grate.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 04:19:35 PM
A video of Nick throwing a log & knotted rope off the back of his scooter would be an acceptable substitute for 1/4 mile data.
I can get one, but only if he uses a 14 second glass and doesn't exceed 28 knots.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 24, 2020, 04:19:35 PM
A video of Nick throwing a log & knotted rope off the back of his scooter would be an acceptable substitute for 1/4 mile data.
But then you have to account for drag, friction coefficient of spruce vs birch, mass of the log/rope assembly...
Or just go with the tried and true 9.8m/s squared. Of course, that means driving off a cliff.
There will be no knots for now. It seems to have lost compression. I made it a few miles this morning, then it started running crappy then quit. I had to push it home.
I am going to tear down the motor and figure it out. I can"t even afford an Uber to get to work. Fuck everything
The intake valve had zero lash. Other than that, everything looks good. Spontaneous valve unadjustment. Huh.
Well that explains why the air filter was getting soaked in oil. I suppose the intake valve had been tight for a whilez and finally just decided to stay open.
is it running well now?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 25, 2020, 03:33:43 PM
The intake valve had zero lash. Other than that, everything looks good. Spontaneous valve unadjustment. Huh.
Zero lash? Was it not properly sealing closed, before it decided to stay open?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 25, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
is it running well now?
The cylinder head is in my kitchen sink right now, so
And it looks like the exhaust valve is leaking. Shitfuck
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 25, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
so yes
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz9LvZzY/IMG-20200925-180347950.jpg)
indeed
NSFW, are you trying to get me fired?
Quote from: Laconian on September 25, 2020, 04:07:45 PM
NSFW, are you trying to get me fired?
No, I'm trying to get scooty to fire
I'll have to order parts.
In the mean time, how the fuck do I get to work?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 25, 2020, 04:09:57 PM
I'll have to order parts.
In the mean time, how the fuck do I get to work?
Anybody around there have a pre-'72 slant 6 powered vehicle for sale? A rusty old Valiant or Dart, maybe. Most dependable junk on Earth. What happened to the radiator for the Jeep?
Quote from: shp4man on September 25, 2020, 04:31:59 PM
Anybody around there have a pre-'72 slant 6 powered vehicle for sale? A rusty old Valiant or Dart, maybe. Most dependable junk on Earth. What happened to the radiator for the Jeep?
You're talking as if I have any money. I can't even afford an Uber ride right now.
What kind of shop doesn't have a shop buggy for the mechanic to get to work in a pinch?
Quote from: Soup DeVille on September 25, 2020, 04:38:29 PM
What kind of shop doesn't have a shop buggy for the mechanic to get to work in a pinch?
If it was my shop, it would have one.
It's not my shop.
Quote from: Laconian on September 25, 2020, 04:07:45 PM
NSFW, are you trying to get me fired?
working from home makes NSFW much more relaxed. :lol:
It looks like a picture that Bender would've extended his eye-tubes at. Breowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Quote from: CaminoRacer on September 25, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
working from home makes NSFW much more relaxed. :lol:
I don't have the panic moments thanks to screenshots of basically-naked Skyrim characters, that's for sure.
Quote from: Laconian on September 25, 2020, 05:26:52 PM
It looks like a picture that Bender would've extended his eye-tubes at. Breowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I don't have the panic moments thanks to screenshots of basically-naked Skyrim characters, that's for sure.
What do you mean? :lol:
Valves and shit coming on Monday. In the mean time, I'm trying to get a ride to work and maybe a radiator for Jeep.
Scooty needs a Harbor Freight Predator motor swap.
Quote from: MX793 on September 26, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
Scooty needs a Harbor Freight Predator motor swap.
Too expensive.
I ordered a new valve kit and a 47mm big bore kit, which will put it at 72cc, all for $31 shipped.
And then my checking account got overdrawn, so add a $25 overdraft fee to that.
Probably got a knot stuck in the valves
Quote from: r0tor on September 27, 2020, 11:52:53 AM
Probably got a knot stuck in the valves
I already disassembled the top end and checked. No evidence of knots.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 27, 2020, 02:21:59 PM
I already disassembled the top end and checked. No evidence of knots.
Well of course not... They can't move by themselves
Ported and polished the fukkin head, mang.
New valves and 47mm piston + cylinder coming today.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2020, 12:41:32 PM
Ported and polished the fukkin head, mang.
New valves and 47mm piston + cylinder coming today.
How about the valve (sleeves?)?
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 28, 2020, 12:59:50 PM
How about the valve (sleeves?)?
The valve ... seals? New ones come with the valve kit.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2020, 01:26:57 PM
The valve ... seals? New ones come with the valve kit.
I'm thinking of the holes that the valve stems have to slide up and down in. If the valves were sticking open were the stems not stuck in the sleeves?
Quote from: FoMoJo on September 28, 2020, 01:29:50 PM
I'm thinking of the holes that the valve stems have to slide up and down in. If the valves were sticking open were the stems not stuck in the sleeves?
Oh, the valve guides. They look fine.
The intake was sticking open because it had zero lash. The exhaust valve was burned. It's amazing it ran at all for the 400 kilometers that I put on it.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on September 28, 2020, 01:31:31 PM
Oh, the valve guides. They look fine.
The intake was sticking open because it had zero lash. The exhaust valve was burned. It's amazing it ran at all for the 400 kilometers that I put on it.
You put 400 kilometers on that in like a week?
Quote from: Soup DeVille
link=topic=35760.msg2489633#msg2489633 date=1601324145
You put 400 kilometers on that in like a week?
Two weeks, and work is almost 20 miles each way. Plus grocery shopping, and puttin around.
:huh:
Heck, it might read in miles. I'm not even sure.
Oh yeah, scoot thread. Will be 72cc tomorrow.
New piston has such girth
(https://i.postimg.cc/59GyLMP5/IMG-20201003-204353162.jpg)
So you just have to disconnect the connecting rod from the crank and that pops out as a unit?
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 03, 2020, 06:57:16 PM
So you just have to disconnect the connecting rod from the crank and that pops out as a unit?
Slide the cylinder off, and the piston stays attached to the rod and crank. Then the wrist pin slides out and the piston comes off.
The combustion chamber stays the same size? Won't that increase compression?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 03, 2020, 06:36:00 PM
Oh yeah, scoot thread. Will be 72cc tomorrow.
"OK Google, translate 22cc into miles per hour."
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 03, 2020, 07:26:17 PM
The combustion chamber stays the same size? Won't that increase compression?
Not exactly. The old piston is a flat top, while the new piston is dished.
Quote from: Laconian on October 03, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
"OK Google, translate 22cc into miles per hour."
Should be able to hit 40 knots on flat ground.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2020, 01:31:39 AM
Not exactly. The old piston is a flat top, while the new piston is dished.
Practically a Hemi! :rockon:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2020, 01:31:39 AM
Not exactly. The old piston is a flat top, while the new piston is dished.
Yes, I see. Pretty hard to tell on the old piston that it's flat.
Quote from: MX793 on October 04, 2020, 06:51:23 AM
Reverse hemi.
Shh. The enthralled onlookers needn't know that.
Quote from: Rockraven on October 04, 2020, 07:18:39 AM
Shh. The enthralled onlookers needn't know that.
Actually, the cylinder head has a kind of domed shape, too
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2020, 07:39:03 AM
Actually, the cylinder head has a kind of domed shape, too
A double dome. That's kinda like an ellipse.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2020, 07:39:03 AM
Actually, the cylinder head has a kind of domed shape, too
So, kind of a lemon shape then.
Quote from: Rockraven on October 04, 2020, 08:16:25 AM
So, kind of a lemon shape then.
Well, the lemon is getting bigger
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2020, 01:32:44 AM
Should be able to hit 40 knots on flat ground.
How fast can it go in sea state 3?
Quote from: MX793 on October 04, 2020, 08:32:55 AM
How fast can it go in sea state 3?
Roughly 9.8 m/s/s
Quote from: MX793 on October 04, 2020, 09:17:03 AM
Can you convert that to rundlets?
I can, but it would take most of the day.
Laden or unladen?
Reminds me of the Monty Python "Bridge of Death" skit. :lol:
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eb8626f98f0cb20a3d06af267e5d8ab7)
Quote from: shp4man on October 04, 2020, 11:33:29 AM
Reminds me of the Monty Python "Bridge of Death" skit. :lol:
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eb8626f98f0cb20a3d06af267e5d8ab7)
Entirely coincidental!
I am going to set the ring end gaps to 0.009" and 0.011" according to the Wiseco chart for high-performance builds. Perhaps a bit more than usual, but the engine will be run at WOT most of the time.
Scooty top end is together. Set the valve lash at 0.004" on intake and exhaust. Valve cover is now black just because
(https://i.postimg.cc/prKG5mnV/IMG-20201006-114920521.jpg)
Now to rejet the carb, again. Starting with a #90 main jet
It runs! I got scooty purring like a one-eyed runt kitten. Ran it good around the neighborhood on some hills to break in the new piston rings. Torque is up a metric shit ton. It pulls up these hills like nobody's business, and at part throttle. Full throttle feels like it still has more potential. I may have to go up a jet size.
It's amazing how quiet the engine is now.
It sounds like it should - a little Chinese sewing machine.
Such happy. Very scoot.
Oh, by "little Chinese sewing machine", I didn't mean an eight year-old girl working in a sweat shop. It doesn't sound like that.
You're back up to the required 2 vehicle minimum. Congratulations.
Quote from: RomanChariot on October 06, 2020, 01:18:29 PM
You're back up to the required 2 vehicle minimum. Congratulations.
Feels good, man
Did you double your Knots Per Hour?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 06, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
Did you double your Knots Per Hour?
It has increased by a percentage.
I need a jigger to measure out 1 oz. of octane booster each timeI fill up the gas tank.
Found one.
Now I just need to wing it when I make cocktails
I'm curious how far this lovely vehicle will go before it needs more work. It's like Fix It Again Tony, Chinese version. :muffin:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 06, 2020, 05:55:38 PM
I need a jigger to measure out 1 oz. of octane booster each timeI fill up the gas tank.
Does that mean that there's a bit of preignition happening?
Ah, it insists on premium gas! It's practically a sports car!
Quote from: shp4man on October 07, 2020, 08:55:37 AM
I'm curious how far this lovely vehicle will go before it needs more work. It's like Fix It Again Tony, Chinese version. :muffin:
Made it to work and back today.
Pulled the spark plug, and it looks perfect.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 07, 2020, 09:43:59 AM
Does that mean that there's a bit of preignition happening?
I'm trying to prevent it. I can't just fill up with premium at most gas pumps, because my one gallon of gas will be whatever was left in the lines from the last customer.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 07, 2020, 04:44:06 PM
I'm trying to prevent it. I can't just fill up with premium at most gas pumps, because my one gallon of gas will be whatever was left in the lines from the last customer.
Just pour the first gallon onto the ground to purge the pump line.
Seriously, though, do you really think you have enough compression to detonate on regular?
Not sure if it's true for 4-strokes, but small displacement 2-strokes (80cc or less) seem to love lower octanes, even heavily worked motors. I remember when I raced MX, there was this guy with a kid racing in the 80cc class and he put a bunch of money into the motor sending it out to Pro Circuit to have a high compression piston and port job. He was running 108 octane race fuel and it ran like crap. Put some regular pump gas in it and it ran like a champ.
Why don't they just turn gas pumps into Coke Freestyle machines? Just squirt in whatever extra octane you need just before the nozzle. Want to add a hint of vanilla to your gasoline? Easy.
Quote from: Laconian on October 07, 2020, 05:09:59 PM
Why don't they just turn gas pumps into Coke Freestyle machines? Just squirt in whatever extra octane you need just before the nozzle. Want to add a hint of vanilla to your gasoline? Easy.
They do make scented fuel additives. Root beer, blueberry, etc
Quote from: MX793 on October 07, 2020, 05:01:27 PM
Just pour the first gallon onto the ground to purge the pump line.
:lol:
Quote from: Laconian on October 07, 2020, 05:09:59 PM
Why don't they just turn gas pumps into Coke Freestyle machines? Just squirt in whatever extra octane you need just before the nozzle. Want to add a hint of vanilla to your gasoline? Easy.
Yes, it should be that easy. I want a shot of NOS!
Quote from: MX793 on October 07, 2020, 05:06:31 PM
Seriously, though, do you really think you have enough compression to detonate on regular?
Not sure if it's true for 4-strokes, but small displacement 2-strokes (80cc or less) seem to love lower octanes, even heavily worked motors. I remember when I raced MX, there was this guy with a kid racing in the 80cc class and he put a bunch of money into the motor sending it out to Pro Circuit to have a high compression piston and port job. He was running 108 octane race fuel and it ran like crap. Put some regular pump gas in it and it ran like a champ.
I'm not going for 108 octane race gas. I just want to turn 87 into 90. And no, I'm not totally certain it is necessary.
The only drawback to having so much power is that it kind of kills the momentum game.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 07, 2020, 06:22:59 PM
:lol:
Yes, it should be that easy. I want a shot of NOS!
I'm not going for 108 octane race gas. I just want to turn 87 into 90. And no, I'm not totally certain it is necessary.
Does it "ping?"
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 08, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Does it "ping?"
... maybe ...?
it makes lots of noises :lol:
This morning, I was wondering why scooty suddenly ran even better than yesterday. Then I remembered adding the octane booster last night. Shit werks.
Damn exhaust bolts keep rattling loose, despite lock washers and blue thread locker.
Maybe I can get some of these...
https://youtu.be/IKwWu2w1gGk
You need the high temp loctite. Or a deformed-thread lock nut.
Regular lockwashers don't really do anything.
Quote from: MX793 on October 09, 2020, 05:11:44 PM
You need the high temp loctite. Or a deformed-thread lock nut.
Regular lockwashers don't really do anything.
Yeah, I only had blue thread locker on hand. A deformed locknut might work. Or I can just do some tack welding.
Doing a choke/enricher delete. It starts fine without the stupid thing.
Should probably do a manual petcock, too.
This guy knows how it is
https://youtu.be/Ep1LFsoNeKY
Choke/enricher delete:
Removed the electronic automatic enricher, removed the thermostatically-extending needle from the tip, placed it fully into the orifice, and sealed the entire thing with black RTV silicone.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzmMB6FS/cvkenricherdelete.jpg)
Never mind the peanut butter melting off the starter terminal.
Why do you deny scooty enrichment?
Quote from: MX793 on October 11, 2020, 07:43:53 AM
Why do you deny scooty enrichment?
The crummy thing doesn't work half the time, gets stuck open or closed, and pulls unnecesary amps from the weak electrical system.
Twist the throttle a couple of times to squirt gas from the accelerator pump, and the cold engine cranks up on the second or third try.
The 49cc "moped": a great "fuck you" to this local government that has fucked me over so many times, and continues to do so. No title. No property taxes. No insurance. Just a $10 two year registration to the state.
I might get another 49cc "moped" just to double the fuck.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 11, 2020, 08:20:30 AM
The 49cc "moped": a great "fuck you" to this local government that has fucked me over so many times, and continues to do so. No title. No property taxes. No insurance. Just a $10 two year registration to the state.
I might get another 49cc "moped" just to double the fuck.
You live in one of those places where cars are subject to "property tax"?
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 11, 2020, 08:20:30 AM
The 49cc "moped": a great "fuck you" to this local government that has fucked me over so many times, and continues to do so. No title. No property taxes. No insurance. Just a $10 two year registration to the state.
I might get another 49cc "moped" just to double the fuck.
Is there a cc limit for this category?
Quote from: MX793 on October 11, 2020, 09:07:55 AM
You live in one of those places where cars are subject to "property tax"?
I owed over $1000 on my Fiesta from when I had it in storage, because I didn't know an unregistered, uninsured, stored vehicle was subject to taxes. That's why I said fuck it and let it get repo'd.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 11, 2020, 09:15:09 AM
Is there a cc limit for this category?
49cc.
Bitches will never know about my piston size.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 11, 2020, 09:18:37 AM
:ohyeah:
Scooty is now 72cc, but the only way to tell is to remove the cylinder head and take measurements. :pullover: :evildude:
LS1 swap plz. The vee will make a fine saddle.
Quote from: Laconian on October 11, 2020, 03:53:39 PM
LS1 swap plz. The vee will make a fine saddle.
Believe it or not, my butt is not an intake manifold.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 11, 2020, 04:12:38 PM
Believe it or not, my butt is not an intake manifold.
Eat some beans and you can have methane injection.
Quote from: MX793 on October 11, 2020, 04:15:59 PM
Eat some beans and you can have methane injection.
It would be neat to try running the scooty motor on straight methanol, or building a new motor with stupid high compression.
I think a second scooter running on an alternative fuel would be a cool, and affordable project. How about propane? :mask:
(http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2007/08/scooter.jpg)
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 11, 2020, 09:25:40 AM
Scooty is now 72cc, but the only way to tell is to remove the cylinder head and take measurements. :pullover: :evildude:
Others with 49-50 cc scooters might want to boost their power as well. Might make a good sideline.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 11, 2020, 05:22:18 PM
Others with 49-50 cc scooters might want to boost their power as well. Might make a good sideline.
Scooter people don't have any money :lol:
Maybe something that would be cool ... a two-stroke 125cc engine, like from a shifter kart or a dirt bike. Those easily put out over 30 HP at a jizzillion RPM.
Of course, a regular 150cc scooter drivetrain costs under $300 new, and practically drops right in
:muffin:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 11, 2020, 04:12:38 PM
Believe it or not, my butt is not an intake manifold.
This makes me feels ways which are scary and exciting.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 12, 2020, 06:40:20 AM
This makes me feels ways which are scary and exciting.
Now you know what it's like to ride a scooter.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on October 12, 2020, 06:40:20 AM
This makes me feels ways which are scary and exciting.
He said
NOT an intake manifold.
It's 2020. Let him decide how to use his manifold.
Manifolds matter.
In other news, a nice little petcock just came in.
Old huuuge muffler broke, so I made my own stubby, packed with steel wool.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XYB2VqR6/IMG-20201014-164723430.jpg)
Well, it's not quiet, but it's better than nothing.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 14, 2020, 05:08:43 PM
Well, it's not quiet, but it's better than nothing.
But think of the weight savings if you didn't have a can
Quote from: SVT_Power on October 14, 2020, 08:38:49 PM
But think of the weight savings if you didn't have a can
That whole pipe probably weighs one pound. The old muffler was at least 7 pounds. +600 speed points.
I could probably make more of these little mufflers and sell them to scooter people for like $35.
We grocery shopping and brought home three bags full. Scooty is just so good at everything.
Stubby muffler is too loud. :lol:
I think I'll add a lawnmower muffler to it
Loud pipes save lives
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2020, 07:09:52 PM
Stubby muffler is too loud. :lol:
I think I'll add a lawnmower muffler to it
Then it will sound like a lawnmower.
Quote from: SVT_Power on October 17, 2020, 11:20:37 AM
Loud pipes save lives
It's true. I can tell that cars don't want to be anywhere near me.
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 17, 2020, 11:52:51 AM
Then it will sound like a lawnmower.
A 9,000 RPM lawnmower ...
Watery things, as cold as the Rockies, are coming ...
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51CLp0JzX8L._AC_SY400_.jpg)
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 17, 2020, 04:20:59 PM
Watery things, as cold as the Rockies, are coming ...
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51CLp0JzX8L._AC_SY400_.jpg)
Are you putting that on your scooter??!
LOL if you spent all this work on a car you could have a roof for when it rains??....
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 20, 2020, 01:20:28 PM
LOL if you spent all this work on a car you could have a roof for when it rains??....
I can't park a car in my living room.
Scooty = STOLEN
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2020, 07:20:56 PM
Scooty = STOLEN
WAT
You were asking it with your hawt displacement mods!
Quote from: Laconian on November 03, 2020, 07:23:56 PM
WAT
You were asking it with your hawt displacement mods!
I literally just had over $500 in tools stolen from work. And today, scooty from my house. What the fuck.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2020, 07:29:17 PM
I literally just had over $500 in tools stolen from work. And today, scooty from my house. What the fuck.
Ugh... I'm sorry to hear about that.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2020, 07:29:17 PM
I literally just had over $500 in tools stolen from work. And today, scooty from my house. What the fuck.
Well, that sucks.
If my Jeep gets stolen, which isn't hard to do, I'll be completely fucked again. I have zero money for this kind of shit right now.
Wait, somebody stole the fucking Chinese scooter? Your kidding, right? WTF?
Quote from: shp4man on November 03, 2020, 08:42:42 PM
Wait, somebody stole the fucking Chinese scooter? Your kidding, right? WTF?
Right off my front porch last night. I can't make this shit up.
All that extra power surely made for a faster getaway.
Quote from: MX793 on November 03, 2020, 08:57:22 PM
All that extra power surely made for a faster getaway.
I still have the keys, and the gas tank was empty because a fuel line broke. I have new fuel lines coming in the mail tomorrow. :facepalm:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on November 03, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
Right off my front porch last night. I can't make this shit up.
Insurance?
Wtf
Crap. What a shitty thing to do.
Quote from: MX793 on September 13, 2020, 08:52:07 AM
Is No Fear still around? I don't think I've seen any No Fear stuff in over a decade.
TIL They went chapter 11 in 2011, a UK clothing brand bought it, and now.... https://ukstore.nofear.com/clothing/mens/mens-t-shirts
Quote from: Laconian on September 13, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
I did a Google search for Taotao Scooter 50cc. Google tried to answer a question for me.
Q: How fast is 50cc in mph?
A: 40-45 miles per hour
AI supremacy: a long ways to go :thumbsup:
need to ask chat gpt
The top speed of a 50cc scooter or moped is typically around 30 to 40 miles per hour (mph), depending on various factors such as the weight of the rider, the terrain, and the weather conditions.
Quote from: Laconian on February 13, 2023, 08:55:09 PM
The top speed of a 50cc scooter or moped is typically around 30 to 40 miles per hour (mph), depending on various factors such as the weight of the rider, the terrain, and the weather conditions.
This is correct :muffin:
So in Nick's case...maybe 20 mph? :evildude:
Quote from: SVT_Power on February 14, 2023, 09:49:24 PM
So in Nick's case...maybe 20 mph? :evildude:
21 mph. I've lost over 30 pounds (of muscle) in the past year.