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Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 11, 2005, 12:02:25 AM
From what I read it has about 3hp but it gets about 40mpg thats why I am paying $150 for one, but I am no ricer so how can I get some power out of a 1.5L CCVC? Maybe a turbo, thats realy cheap, or a bigger exaust? I know more about chevy big blocks and 350's. And a 350 wont fit :(  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: 93JC on May 11, 2005, 01:51:46 AM
"Power" and "1.5L CVCC"?

There's an oxymoron for the ages... :lol:



I don't think you CAN get much more power out the ol' CVCC.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Laconian on May 11, 2005, 02:04:48 AM
I think you can put high compression motorcycle heads on them. (looks around for ChrisV)
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:18:04 AM
QuoteI think you can put high compression motorcycle heads on them. (looks around for ChrisV)
Even still, so you might, might boost it to 45-50 hp??  Man, thats not power. :blink:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 11, 2005, 07:59:22 AM
Whats wrong with the CCVC anyway? But for $150 its a good deal, and 40mpg or so anit bad either. :lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Catman on May 11, 2005, 08:51:30 AM
I know, I know, it's old school but sometimes foot power can add some oooompf!  Just ask Fred.

(http://www.mathematik.uni-ulm.de/~s_mhasch/flintstone_car.jpg)
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: L. ed foote on May 11, 2005, 09:41:59 AM
QuoteI know, I know, it's old school but sometimes foot power can add some oooompf!  Just ask Fred.

(http://www.mathematik.uni-ulm.de/~s_mhasch/flintstone_car.jpg)
LOL

SargeMonkey, ever think of using Nawwwsssssssssssssss?  :lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 11:19:44 AM
Quote
QuoteI know, I know, it's old school but sometimes foot power can add some oooompf!  Just ask Fred.

(http://www.mathematik.uni-ulm.de/~s_mhasch/flintstone_car.jpg)
LOL

SargeMonkey, ever think of using Nawwwsssssssssssssss?  :lol:
lol :lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Speed_Racer on May 11, 2005, 02:29:38 PM
Just carry a chain with you, and at stoplights, connect yourself to the car in front of you. Let them tow you around without your engine running, and you will get Infinity MPG, and do 0-60 in as long as it take the car you are being tugged by to reach that.

Otherwise, just save your money and slowly move up the scales. No need to spend money on a 4hp civic. Just save it and soon you will be able to purchase a sportier car. Maybe the 6hp version!
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Laconian on May 11, 2005, 04:42:27 PM
So you praise the CVCC's fuel economy in the same thread where you want to ugprade or entirely replace the engine? Man, you are conflicted.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:17:25 PM
QuoteJust carry a chain with you, and at stoplights, connect yourself to the car in front of you. Let them tow you around without your engine running, and you will get Infinity MPG, and do 0-60 in as long as it take the car you are being tugged by to reach that.

Otherwise, just save your money and slowly move up the scales. No need to spend money on a 4hp civic. Just save it and soon you will be able to purchase a sportier car. Maybe the 6hp version!
too funny  :lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2005, 05:31:35 PM
Is this the Civic with the lawnmower engine in it?  4 HP?  :praise:


Anyway...I don't think it's necessary to upgrade this car.  You're not going to get much faster without doing significant modifications (spending lots of money)...so I say save your money and be happy with the mileage. lol
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
QuoteIs this the Civic with the lawnmower engine in it?  4 HP?  :praise:


Anyway...I don't think it's necessary to upgrade this car.  You're not going to get much faster without doing significant modifications (spending lots of money)...so I say save your money and be happy with the mileage. lol
My lawnmower engine has more power :o  :lol:

I would say not to buy the car.  Save your money for a decent car, not a 79 Civic with 4 hp.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2005, 05:35:30 PM
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QuoteIs this the Civic with the lawnmower engine in it?  4 HP?  :praise:


Anyway...I don't think it's necessary to upgrade this car.  You're not going to get much faster without doing significant modifications (spending lots of money)...so I say save your money and be happy with the mileage. lol
My lawnmower engine has more power :o  :lol:

I would say not to buy the car.  Save your money for a decent car, not a 79 Civic with 4 hp.
So does mine.  :praise:   17 HP to be exact...and it's from 1989, so that's not bad.  :praise:   Wait, does this Civic really have 4 HP?  :P  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:39:02 PM
(http://www.claff.net/claff/cars/79civic-2.jpg)

This is a same year civic.  

You see under my hood, yo?!  I got 4 frieken hp, yo!  And when I rev it up, it makes a sound like faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart!

:lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2005, 05:41:12 PM
It seriously has 4 HP?!  And, wow, that thing's ugly.  :P  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:41:20 PM
I ckecked up this engine and it was developing 63 hp@5000rpm and 77 ft.lbf@3000rpm.  This was the EB2 engine used by Honda in 74-79.  I dont know where you got 4 hp from man <_<  :blink:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2005, 05:48:25 PM
QuoteI ckecked up this engine and it was developing 63 hp@5000rpm and 77 ft.lbf@3000rpm.  This was the EB2 engine used by Honda in 74-79.  I dont know where you got 4 hp from man <_<  :blink:
"From what I read it has about 3hp but it gets about 40mpg"


*The words of Sarge*


Yeah...it would probably not get to 60 MPH in 2 minutes if it had 3 HP!  :P  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:49:09 PM
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QuoteI ckecked up this engine and it was developing 63 hp@5000rpm and 77 ft.lbf@3000rpm.  This was the EB2 engine used by Honda in 74-79.  I dont know where you got 4 hp from man <_<  :blink:
"From what I read it has about 3hp but it gets about 40mpg"


*The words of Sarge*


Yeah...it would probably not get to 60 MPH in 2 minutes if it had 3 HP!  :P
It would not move! :o  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:49:45 PM
Sarge:  Thats not right sir....you told me I was buying a 79 Civic, not a 79 lawnmower!  :lol:
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 11, 2005, 05:50:09 PM
QuoteSarge:  Thats not right sir....you told me I was buying a 79 Civic, not a 79 lawnmower!  :lol:
LOL   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   :rockon:

Seller:  But kid, it has a 12 inch cut width!  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Tom on May 11, 2005, 05:50:10 PM
The guy just needs a cheap car, what's with all the ricer jokes?

Regarding power, I hope you're looking at a manual version(they might not have even come with autos then) and if you live in a hilly area you might want to rethink it.  Any serious power modifications would kind of defeat the purpose of spending $150 on an old Civic, right?
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 11, 2005, 05:55:47 PM
QuoteThe guy just needs a cheap car, what's with all the ricer jokes?

Regarding power, I hope you're looking at a manual version(they might not have even come with autos then) and if you live in a hilly area you might want to rethink it.  Any serious power modifications would kind of defeat the purpose of spending $150 on an old Civic, right?
Youre right...we were just hacing a little fun.  

The point is that this car makes about 63 hp.  He'd have to spend at leat 150 modifying that, maybe even 1K to get more power out of the car.  That defeats the whole purpose of buying this car.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Rupert on May 11, 2005, 08:04:42 PM
^Agreed. Unless you have a thing for old CCVCs (I think they're kinda cool), you'd be better off spending your cash on something with more power to begin with. Think Geo Metro 4-cyl ;) .
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: 93JC on May 11, 2005, 09:37:14 PM
QuoteI hope you're looking at a manual version(they might not have even come with autos then)
They had a semi-automatic available.

It was a two-speed, and required the driver to shift between "D" and "L".  :lol:  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 11, 2005, 09:51:12 PM
5 speed, but why? I have a truck with a very nice 350 but it needs work, like the driveline, fuel lines, tranny cooler lines, ect.. My current car is a 89 Cavilier wagon that needs 300 in parts to be legal, so I am selling it for $75:P  I have anothe question, most people cant get there cars past 150,000 here, its a high desert, small hills, but my moms 91 camary all track has 250,000 and is still going strong. I think its cuz there taking it to oil can henerys. But the civic does have 12" wheels, its teal, and it has a roof rack, for my bike so I can tow it up hills. 95,000 miles, but we take good care of our cars, so I can get another 300,000 out of it easy.  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 12, 2005, 05:15:35 AM
Quote5 speed, but why? I have a truck with a very nice 350 but it needs work, like the driveline, fuel lines, tranny cooler lines, ect.. My current car is a 89 Cavilier wagon that needs 300 in parts to be legal, so I am selling it for $75:P  I have anothe question, most people cant get there cars past 150,000 here, its a high desert, small hills, but my moms 91 camary all track has 250,000 and is still going strong. I think its cuz there taking it to oil can henerys. But the civic does have 12" wheels, its teal, and it has a roof rack, for my bike so I can tow it up hills. 95,000 miles, but we take good care of our cars, so I can get another 300,000 out of it easy.
Good luck.  What kind of bike do you have?  :D  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: BMWDave on May 12, 2005, 05:30:50 AM
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Quote5 speed, but why? I have a truck with a very nice 350 but it needs work, like the driveline, fuel lines, tranny cooler lines, ect.. My current car is a 89 Cavilier wagon that needs 300 in parts to be legal, so I am selling it for $75:P  I have anothe question, most people cant get there cars past 150,000 here, its a high desert, small hills, but my moms 91 camary all track has 250,000 and is still going strong. I think its cuz there taking it to oil can henerys. But the civic does have 12" wheels, its teal, and it has a roof rack, for my bike so I can tow it up hills. 95,000 miles, but we take good care of our cars, so I can get another 300,000 out of it easy.
Good luck.  What kind of bike do you have?  :D
Wow-thats a lot of mileage to get.  Good Luck!
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 12, 2005, 10:44:53 PM
An older Hellcat 24, BMX bike. I want a harley sport though.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: giant_mtb on May 13, 2005, 05:19:42 AM
QuoteAn older Hellcat 24, BMX bike. I want a harley sport though.
Ooooo BMW...that's awesome.  I'm a mountain biker...but I'm a rebel and take it to the track once in a while.  :praise:   My friend is selling a ProConcept for 800 dollars...it's worth over 1600... *wink wink*  :P  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 14, 2005, 12:40:37 AM
I got it on ebay for 109, its a 300+ bike.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 14, 2005, 01:29:57 AM
O-well the guy sold it, he said he would wait till the end of the month.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 14, 2005, 10:12:19 PM
Never mind I am stupid, his IP went down, for four days, so he could not check his email, I thought that he sold the car and was ignoring me.

And I am uber sore, from BMX, I haven't riden since december.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Run Away on May 14, 2005, 10:27:04 PM
Ummm....ISP you mean (internet service provider)? An IP address can't exactly "go down".

Anyways, pistons from a Honda Goldwing of about the same vintage fit in and will bump the compression ratio a good bit. That was what made Oscar Jackson, founder of Jackson Racing famous.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 15, 2005, 12:29:58 AM
Ya, I ment ISP. it could be IP (internet provider) but meh. Thats odd, does this thing have a inline four cycle engine? I still need to get down there, but it runs.
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Lorinser on May 15, 2005, 11:25:14 AM
Swap a 500cc motorcycle engine into it. :D  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 15, 2005, 10:19:32 PM
Hey runaway is that your car in the sig?
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Submariner on May 16, 2005, 02:27:21 PM
You want power?

Ever heard of "Type-R"?

;)  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Tom on May 16, 2005, 03:17:18 PM
QuoteHey runaway is that your car in the sig?
That's his Honda Prelude.  The year escapes me.  '91 maybe?
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: Run Away on May 16, 2005, 04:38:37 PM
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QuoteHey runaway is that your car in the sig?
That's his Honda Prelude.  The year escapes me.  '91 maybe?
Close, it's a '90. ;)  
Title: 1979 Honda Civic
Post by: SargeMonkey on May 16, 2005, 11:42:40 PM
Nice work, I was thinking of a 572 but its bigger than the car.

I checked it out today once the wagon is gone its mine, but I know why the carb leaked, silocone, the guy didnt have a seal so he made one, out of the wrong stuff. But after an hour of work it will run and it looks ok needs some body work, which I don't mind doing.

It's so small, and the carb weighs about 25 pounds.  <_<