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Auto Talk => Jalopies => Topic started by: MexicoCityM3 on December 27, 2012, 07:49:36 PM

Poll
Question: Which american super sedan?
Option 1: Spirit R/T
Option 2: Taurus SHO
Title: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on December 27, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
Spirit R/T

(http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/MexicoCityM3/a1776f05374a6dd93885e4033d13fcc4.jpg)

Taurus SHO

(http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/MexicoCityM3/5129a7f1a585d55d334c865bb30f3cf1.jpg)

I am pretty sure the Taurus is going to run away with this poll here, but the R/T has a special place in my heart. I had a "Mexican" version with 160hp when I was 18-20 and loved that car. Then my dad got a "real" R/T with a manual and the 224hp Lotus-headed engine. That thing was incredibly quick and agile. I blasted everything else that was available in Mexico back then. I remember a high speed run at 240kph in that car coming back from Vallarta. I didn't drive anything faster until I got the E46 M3 15 years later.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 2o6 on December 27, 2012, 07:51:31 PM
Bonneville SSEi?
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: SVT666 on December 27, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
SHO
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Onslaught on December 27, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
SHO. Not because of the car. Because that thing is a POS. But when you opened that shit hood and looked at that motor.......
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 2o6 on December 27, 2012, 08:45:29 PM
I gave it to the Spirit, mostly because it love those old Turbo Mopars.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: MX793 on December 27, 2012, 08:47:38 PM
Gotta go with the Yamahammer.  That motor was just so sweet.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 68_427 on December 27, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
Spirit hands down.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Vinsanity on December 27, 2012, 09:54:07 PM
Lumina.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 68_427 on December 27, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
V8 awd lumina concept
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: SVT666 on December 27, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on December 27, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
SHO. Not because of the car. Because that thing is a POS. But when you opened that shit hood and looked at that motor.......
One of the greatest looking intake manifolds ever made.

(http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2009/02/12/09/02/1994_ford_taurus_4_dr_sho_sedan-pic-228.jpeg)
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 27, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
I hate the SHO's intake manifold.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 27, 2012, 10:46:42 PM
Too bad it's in a Ford Tortoise.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 27, 2012, 11:37:05 PM
The Taurus was actually a far better all around car than the Aries.. er, Spirit
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 68_427 on December 28, 2012, 01:05:17 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/comptech_69/W-Body%20Forum/358846_116_full1.jpg)
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Rupert on December 28, 2012, 02:47:25 AM
Fo' SHO.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Onslaught on December 28, 2012, 04:38:22 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on December 27, 2012, 10:43:20 PM
I hate the SHO's intake manifold.
First time for everything. I've never known someone who thought that.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: cawimmer430 on December 28, 2012, 07:05:36 AM
I voted for the Taurus SHO to make AutobahnSHO happy.  :lol:
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
Quote from: Onslaught on December 28, 2012, 04:38:22 AM
First time for everything. I've never known someone who thought that.

I guess I'm the only one. The manifold looks like a bunch of noodles.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: MX793 on December 28, 2012, 07:29:58 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on December 28, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
I guess I'm the only one. The manifold looks like a bunch of noodles.

Let me guess, you also hate the equal-length header pipes on the Shelby Cobra 427...

It's called intake resonance tuning.  The length of the tubes are matched to the engine for increased volumetric efficiency (moar powar!).  The SHO also had a variable length intake (one of the first production cars to feature such), which allowed for a fatter power spread.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Payman on December 28, 2012, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on December 28, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
I guess I'm the only one. The manifold looks like a bunch of noodles.

Nothing a black plastic cover couldn't fix.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: MX793 on December 28, 2012, 07:29:58 AM
Let me guess, you also hate the equal-length header pipes on the Shelby Cobra 427...

It's called intake resonance tuning.  The length of the tubes are matched to the engine for increased volumetric efficiency (moar powar!).  The SHO also had a variable length intake (one of the first production cars to feature such), which allowed for a fatter power spread.

I'm sorry if the intake resonance tuning doesn't visually give me a boner. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on December 28, 2012, 07:58:50 AM
Nothing a black plastic cover couldn't fix.

Don't get me wrong, I love the SHO. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could. Plus how often are you going to look at the intake of a car?

I just don't like how it looks and that's not saying anything about how much I like the car.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 28, 2012, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on December 28, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
I'm sorry if the intake resonance tuning doesn't visually give me a boner. :rolleyes:

Then you are wrong.

here, have a manifold better suited to your taste

(http://images1.americanlisted.com/nlarge/302_ford_2_barrel_intake_manifold_30_valdosta_ga_16669829.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: SVT666 on December 28, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
Quote from: thecarnut on December 28, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
Don't get me wrong, I love the SHO. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I could. Plus how often are you going to look at the intake of a car?
If my intake manifold looked like that,  I would pop the hood every time I got out and leave it open until the next time I drove.
Title: Re: Re: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2012, 09:45:43 AM
Quote from: SVT666 on December 28, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
If my intake manifold looked like that,  I would pop the hood every time I got out and leave it open until the next time I drove.

Then hopefully no one steals your battery and pees in your coolant.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 93JC on December 28, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
What kind of third-world hole do you live in such that people steal car batteries and pee in coolant?
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 28, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Pee works as coolant? I have to pee and the Focus needs coolant. It's like $7 a gallon for that shit.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 280Z Turbo on December 28, 2012, 01:17:56 PM
I voted Spirit R/T.

They're both awful looking, so I picked the one that's faster.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 93JC on December 28, 2012, 01:18:44 PM
As for the poll, my head says Taurus SHO but the Spirit R/T is tugging on my heartstrings. My old Spirit ES served me well. Deep down I know that the chassis is totally inadequate for that much power though.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Pommes-T on December 28, 2012, 04:12:49 PM
Shizzle my nizzle!
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: hotrodalex on December 28, 2012, 04:34:41 PM
Would pee even ruin anything? It would freeze, obviously, but if the car already has antifreeze then it would mix in and be fine.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: cawimmer430 on December 28, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
If this poll has taught us anything it's that Carspin needs more Mopar fans!
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Cookie Monster on December 28, 2012, 05:23:19 PM
Quote from: 93JC on December 28, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
What kind of third-world hole do you live in such that people steal car batteries and pee in coolant?

Well SVT lives in Canada... :huh:


:devil:
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: 2o6 on December 28, 2012, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: 93JC on December 28, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
What kind of third-world hole do you live in such that people steal car batteries and pee in coolant?

Akron, OH.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: sportyaccordy on December 28, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
Quote from: MX793 on December 27, 2012, 08:47:38 PM
Gotta go with the Yamahammer.  That motor was just so sweet.
It was the Maxima before the Maxima. My pick too, though thats not to take anything from the R/T. Another great motor wrapped in doo doo
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: LonghornTX on December 28, 2012, 09:58:30 PM
Both?
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Raza on December 30, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
My choice is Conan's choice.
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 31, 2012, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Onslaught on December 27, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
SHO. Not because of the car. Because that thing is a POS. But when you opened that shit hood and looked at that motor.......

:lol:    Someone did NOT believe mine was stock. It was way cooler after I replaced the hood struts and didn't have to use a broom handle to hold it open....   ;)

The Taurus of that era came with more stock stuff than most cars out then. Not all had power windows and locks on a car that cheap, etc...  but you could get most of that stuff on a Taurus cheaper than other cars.

The SHO was straight up amazing though. Fastest cheap 4door when it came out- and they started at $20k. (In 1989 the M5 was $35k and 7er was $50k+)
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 31, 2012, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: Raza  on December 30, 2012, 04:58:25 PM
My choice is Conan's choice.

:ohyeah:

Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien - '92 Ford Taurus SHO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uukjz0Gyv8s#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: S204STi on December 31, 2012, 03:33:02 PM
Quote from: MX793 on December 27, 2012, 08:47:38 PM
Gotta go with the Yamahammer.  That motor was just so sweet.

Ditto
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: Rupert on December 31, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Heh, on the other hand, while the SHO was super cool back in the day, the M5 is still cool. :lol:
Title: Re: American Super-Sedans from 1990
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 31, 2012, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: Rupert on December 31, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
Heh, on the other hand, while the SHO was super cool back in the day, the M5 is still cool. :lol:

Pfft, I see them fairly often. SHO will be very collectible in a while.