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Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:19:41 PM
(http://img267.echo.cx/img267/1097/holdenwagon7sa.jpg)
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 05:23:27 PM
I think a lifted station wagon type vehicle is a good idea, but the pictured vehicle is too generic.  
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 05:23:31 PM
That's Australian, right?

BTW, I believe that's a design nearing the end of its current life cycle, so if the US was to get it, it would be the next-gen version.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:24:24 PM
QuoteThat's Australian, right?

BTW, I believe that's a design nearing the end of its current life cycle, so if the US was to get it, it would be the next-gen version.
Its a VZ Holden Adventra All Road Wagon .
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: TBR on May 29, 2005, 05:24:46 PM
QuoteThat's Australian, right?

BTW, I believe that's a design nearing the end of its current life cycle, so if the US was to get it, it would be the next-gen version.
It is. Also, why would GM want to have a vehicle to compete against a vehicle that belongs to a brand that they partially own?
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:25:03 PM
It is very vanilla looking, but if they make the next model nicer, I'm sure it would do well in the states.  Gm doesnt really have many station wagons.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 05:25:27 PM
nah. holden should bring over the Senator though. :praise:  
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 05:27:19 PM
(http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/gm/holden_vx_senator_3.jpg)

The Senator is pretty bland too.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: ifcar on May 29, 2005, 05:28:13 PM
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QuoteThat's Australian, right?

BTW, I believe that's a design nearing the end of its current life cycle, so if the US was to get it, it would be the next-gen version.
It is. Also, why would GM want to have a vehicle to compete against a vehicle that belongs to a brand that they partially own?
Subaru's following is loyal enough that they'd probably bring in some additional customers from it.  
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 05:36:24 PM
Quote(http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/gm/holden_vx_senator_3.jpg)

The Senator is pretty bland too.
go to hsv.com.au and click on the senator. that was a last gen. this gen looks much better.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Catman on May 29, 2005, 05:42:17 PM
Yeah, too brand X for most.  I think wagons are the way to go for most families.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 05:44:42 PM
QuoteYeah, too brand X for most.  I think wagons are the way to go for most families.
except they all want gas-guzzling SUV's. :rolleyes:  :(  :angry:  rokon.gif  <_<  
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Catman on May 29, 2005, 05:48:32 PM
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QuoteYeah, too brand X for most.? I think wagons are the way to go for most families.
except they all want gas-guzzling SUV's. :rolleyes:  :(  :angry:  rokon.gif  <_<
Like me! :rockon:   Actually, I'm gald I had my truck the last couple of weeks cause I was rolling all the jumps and berms at the BMX track! B)  Plus carrying all the bikes and equipment today.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 05:49:42 PM
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QuoteYeah, too brand X for most.  I think wagons are the way to go for most families.
except they all want gas-guzzling SUV's. :rolleyes:  :(  :angry:  rokon.gif  <_<
Like me! :rockon:   Actually, I'm gald I had my truck the last couple of weeks cause I was rolling all the jumps and berms at the BMX track! B)
if you're gonna use it, it's fine, but i see many people in SUV's with only 1 person in them.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Catman on May 29, 2005, 05:53:35 PM
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QuoteYeah, too brand X for most.? I think wagons are the way to go for most families.
except they all want gas-guzzling SUV's. :rolleyes:  :(  :angry:  rokon.gif  <_<
Like me! :rockon:   Actually, I'm gald I had my truck the last couple of weeks cause I was rolling all the jumps and berms at the BMX track! B)
if you're gonna use it, it's fine, but i see many people in SUV's with only 1 person in them.
I kind of agree.  I know a guy at work who bought his wife a Suburban.  She drives around with the baby in the back.  Talk about a waste of sheetmetal. :o  
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: giant_mtb on May 29, 2005, 06:28:12 PM
It looks like a mix of the Taurus Wagon and the Outback...with a little Forester boxiness in the mix...
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Run Away on May 29, 2005, 06:42:45 PM
I absolutely LOVE all the Australia-only cars. The whole Holden line I think looks very very classy (I don't see "bland" at all) and they have the performance to back it up.

Anyone remember the Cadillac Catera? The 2001+ model with the Sport package actually was a great handler, just lacked power from it's little V6 (it also had too much weight to pull). That's the same car as all the one listed above, basically. Someday I'd like to drop in a LS2 in one and have an M5 killer (anyone remember the C&D comparo with the HSV coupe with an LS6 versus the last gen M5? It lost to the M5, but only by 1 point).

I'd also like Ford to bring over the Falcon and it's great turbo 6 cyl.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: BMWDave on May 29, 2005, 06:45:50 PM
QuoteI absolutely LOVE all the Australia-only cars. The whole Holden line I think looks very very classy (I don't see "bland" at all) and they have the performance to back it up.

Anyone remember the Cadillac Catera? The 2001+ model with the Sport package actually was a great handler, just lacked power from it's little V6 (it also had too much weight to pull). That's the same car as all the one listed above, basically. Someday I'd like to drop in a LS2 in one and have an M5 killer (anyone remember the C&D comparo with the HSV coupe with an LS6 versus the last gen M5? It lost to the M5, but only by 1 point).

I'd also like Ford to bring over the Falcon and it's great turbo 6 cyl.
The Falcon and its engine are an amazing car!  Very classy and good looking.
Title: Should GM bring this over?
Post by: Raghavan on May 29, 2005, 07:21:39 PM
QuoteI absolutely LOVE all the Australia-only cars. The whole Holden line I think looks very very classy (I don't see "bland" at all) and they have the performance to back it up.

Anyone remember the Cadillac Catera? The 2001+ model with the Sport package actually was a great handler, just lacked power from it's little V6 (it also had too much weight to pull). That's the same car as all the one listed above, basically. Someday I'd like to drop in a LS2 in one and have an M5 killer (anyone remember the C&D comparo with the HSV coupe with an LS6 versus the last gen M5? It lost to the M5, but only by 1 point).

I'd also like Ford to bring over the Falcon and it's great turbo 6 cyl.
you don't think the goat is bland?